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So the Nokia N9 is a beautiful peace of kit and Meego looks nice, but how much better would some ice cream sandwich be on that thing?
How hackable will the N9 be? I guess the main thing is, will anyone have one? Seeing as its not being released in a lot of places I can see it being hard to get a hold of...
I think that the nokia n9 is a nice phone and I do not understand why nokia do not use Android for its smartphone
St3fanSlk said:
I think that the nokia n9 is a nice phone and I do not understand why nokia do not use Android for its smartphone
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It's simple, because Nokia has chosen Windows Phone as it main mobile OS.
As to why Nokia pick Windows over Android, it's simple too. Microsoft needs a great hardware partner to win, and Nokia needs a decent OS to survive. They need each other, and this situation gave Nokia lot of say and control in their hardware and future Windows Phone development. While Android is great, Android doesn't need Nokia and Nokia wouldn't stand a chance in the already super crowded Android ecosystem.
But anyway, the N9/Lumia800 is definitely the most beautiful smartphone I have seen in the last few years. The button-less N9 makes an ideal candidate for ICS. However, it's too expensive at the moment...
tsekh501 said:
But anyway, the N9/Lumia800 is definitely the most beautiful smartphone I have seen in the last few years. The button-less N9 makes an ideal candidate for ICS. However, it's too expensive at the moment...
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I already own what for me is the most beautiful Android phone - Xperia Arc. Just bought N9 yesterday as I couldn't resist not owning such a beautiful loooooking device that is also getting rave reviews.
N9 is just not a good looking device, it feels so f'in right in the hand. The screen, the feel all feel perfectly balanced. It makes my Arc look like a POS. While I love MeeGo so far, I still have lot of learning but frankly, Android messed me up so much that I feel it's hard to survive with other mobile OS if you know to use Android well.
I hope some genius out there can get ICS running on this beauty. Or, I hope Samsung shamelessly copies Nokia design as they are famous copy-cats!
yeah, when i saw buttonless n9 i immediately think about ics, they are perfect for each orthers, i used to be nokia fan, hope sone dev can make isc run on n9
Nokia e7 is my dream machine. With android of course. Or w7 so It can get eventually get android
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I would be down for a Nokia N9 if there was a crew like CM that would try to port android on to it. By realistically I don't think that will happen, phone's not available in the US, CAN, or UK. And getting it off ebay is roughly $650, but I just might get it, sigh...
After reading up on the N9 I couldn't resist and got one. I had the Sony Arc as well and I been with Nokia until they messed up with the n97. But the N9 is another monster, really sleek design the OS is beautiful and colors on the screen really jumps. The black color looks really vivid and nice. I am now waiting for someone to hack android or can port android apps to the N9.
I would buy an n9 if someone ported ICS... just too nice a piece of kit to not own
Def a pretty phone. Android should really be present.
i will get n9, if someone port ics on it.
i'm working in high tech store in Italy and officially the N9 is not sold there, but we got one in the shop and is amazing; i really fell in love with that phone (you can never forget your first love )
i do want to buy it for myself, but what it bothers me is the lack of possible applications to install on the phone. an android porting on that device will be amazing.
is there a crazy guy that has tried an android porting on that device before?
also the original meego software looks pretty well and hands on runs smoothly and seems not having trouble at all, but i had only a quick 5 minutes test on the phone. what worries me is that the phone will left alone with no further support because it's the only one with meego software.
already done look at this video with meego operating 5 different OS search nokia on google and u will the link
Yeah I had SGS2 and got an N9 instead, mainly BECAUSE of the OS.
Android is slow on appswitching (at least the versions Ive run, where youd have to either exit the app, open task manager, then select from a list of icons, or you could hold the menubutton for a bit, then select an app from a list of icons).
ICS might be different, I have no idea how taskswitching is done on it.
However, I will say that the N9 rocks ass and it would be fun to dualboot ICS/Harmattan.
Also, to the above poster, its not allready done. A chinese fake version of the N9 with a 3.8" resistive touchscreen, dualsim and 1.3mp camera can, though. Also it comes with porn and talking tomcat. So theres that.
Just had to throw my hat into the ring. I am ridiculously tempted to purchase the N9. Damn thing is just too attractive.
I was really hoping for some community love but that may just be due to my HD2. Leo users have been Spoilt Rotten.
I see even a hint of android development and caution is out the window. Take my money.
Man I hope they boot leg the E7!
Slai said:
Yeah I had SGS2 and got an N9 instead, mainly BECAUSE of the OS.
Android is slow on appswitching (at least the versions Ive run, where youd have to either exit the app, open task manager, then select from a list of icons, or you could hold the menubutton for a bit, then select an app from a list of icons).
ICS might be different, I have no idea how taskswitching is done on it.
However, I will say that the N9 rocks ass and it would be fun to dualboot ICS/Harmattan.
Also, to the above poster, its not allready done. A chinese fake version of the N9 with a 3.8" resistive touchscreen, dualsim and 1.3mp camera can, though. Also it comes with porn and talking tomcat. So theres that.
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In the mean time i got an N9 for christmas, and the MeeGo OS built in is working pretty good, ha some features that i really love, like completely unified address book and unified messaging system, which slows me to modify the device.
On the other side, the are really few apps developed for meego os, that really pushes me to switch to another OS...
Mmm hard choice...
Awerellwv I bring your attention to Alien Dalvik(google it I cant post links)
Running android apps at native speed seems to negate the lack of apps issue. Assuming it all works as planned.
I've convinced myself I want an N9. Possibly just because that Cyan model looks fantastic. I would really love to see ongoing android development though, Knowing the device would keep up with the times is a big deal.
Now to just find the right price. If you really want to switch phones(and you have a cyan N9) I would be interested.
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Awerellwv I bring your attention to Alien Dalvik(google it I cant post links)
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Definitely i will google a bit about him, thanks for the suggestion
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If you really want to switch phones(and you have a cyan N9) I would be interested.
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i have the cyan one in the shop, but i bought for myself the black one, which looks every day better and better. Have to admit, tough, that the cyan one looks gorgeus, i will suggest bo buy it if you don't plan to use covers for the phone.
White 64GB N9
I have had since a few days the latest white 64GB version of the N9 and I must say, it's quite an incredible device!
I can't even imagine why Nokia went the WP7 way (beside some fresh cash certainly paid by M$).
Of course, there are still some functions & details missing and some things to iron out with Meego (like with WP7), but it's a very stable and fast OS (I'm impressed how fast Opera is loading!). I must add that it's still loaded with the 10.2011.34 Harmattan version, the latest 20.2011.40 hasn't yet been released for this specific model.
I just love the 3 screens idea, especially the "running tasks" screen, where you have access to all of the running apps and can either switch to the wanted one or close it/them. Why is it so complicated for other OS's to implement such a simple and easily accessible task manager??
The only downside I can see is the lack of applications. Only the true Linux developers will continue porting apps to this wonderful smartphone, and if we could get android applications to run on it, it would be great. And when I say run on it, it's preferably run on Meego, using Alien Dalvik or whatever other way.
If this is not possible, of course dual booting or ICS alone would be a solution, although I like the fact we're running an almost pure Linux/Debian machine, with an interesting touchscreen interface.
Hopefully Nokia will keep reading all of the N9 dedicated forums and will keep a Meego (or whatever it will be named in the future) branch of handsets, and of course supporting it/us.
How is touchwiz and is it similar to sense?
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How is touchwiz and is it similar to sense?
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wrong forum, this the evo3d forum.
xBryan said:
wrong forum, this the evo3d forum.
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Thanks for your helpful answer. Now stfu and get out of my thread if you can not post anything helpful. Damn
Youtube the motorola photon, it has the new touch wiz.
I have it on my galaxy tab, its not bad.
steve97ta said:
Youtube the motorola photon, it has the new touch wiz.
I have it on my galaxy tab, its not bad.
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Motorolla doesn't use TouchWiz. Its always been "Blur" unless something crazy just happened.
I have used TouchWiz a lot of SGS2 my buddy has. I have the 3Vo.
TouchWiz is balls compared to Sense. Yeah it might be a little more light weight but SO much isn't there.
It doesn't combine your contacts from google, facebook, tango, MS Exchange and your phone very well at ALL! If it does it sure is difficult to figure out. I work on my buddies and it just duplicated everything.
TouchWiz exchange integration is non-existent. For buisness users this is a HUGE must. My people app from sense and email have BB level integration. I start typing an email addy and it auto-searches for HISTORY (awesome like outlook), my exchange server and on my phone. Global Address Book integration...not present in TouchWiz. Wow...so now i have to add 200 contacts for work onto my phone if I want to use them? Not going to happen.
The leap feature is really poorly implemented, hard to get to "leap"...not a big deal though we dont use it that much in Sense really.
It wasn't as smooth when navigating. More robotic.... transitions sucked. You can add Launcher Pro or ADW though
Widgets sucked too...compared to sense.
People, Email, Calendar- suck compared to Sense
NOW I'm a business user so email, agendas, calendar notifications are a BIG deal to me as a consultant.
That being said, their facebook integration (see peoples pictures when they call you and people widget pics) sucked as well. Sense does a real good job of putting everything together automatically and linking everything. Consolidation is HUGE when you have all of these accounts. With Sense you don't even realize how good of a job this does.
That being said, again, SGS2 is a phenominal phone. It really is. The screen is fantastic (little cartoony though) and its a bit faster that EVO 3d at some stuff. I just depend on my phone for too much "Black berry" stuff to ever get away from Sense. Yeah there are third party apps for everything but odds are you have to pay for them (touchdown) and they don't integrate everything together NEARLY as well as Sense does.
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Motorolla doesn't use TouchWiz. Its always been "Blur" unless something crazy just happened.
I have used TouchWiz a lot of SGS2 my buddy has. I have the 3Vo.
TouchWiz is balls compared to Sense. Yeah it might be a little more light weight but SO much isn't there.
It doesn't combine your contacts from google, facebook, tango, MS Exchange and your phone very well at ALL! If it does it sure is difficult to figure out. I work on my buddies and it just duplicated everything.
TouchWiz exchange integration is non-existent. For buisness users this is a HUGE must. My people app from sense and email have BB level integration. I start typing an email addy and it auto-searches for HISTORY (awesome like outlook), my exchange server and on my phone. Global Address Book integration...not present in TouchWiz. Wow...so now i have to add 200 contacts for work onto my phone if I want to use them? Not going to happen.
The leap feature is really poorly implemented, hard to get to "leap"...not a big deal though we dont use it that much in Sense really.
It wasn't as smooth when navigating. More robotic.... transitions sucked. You can add Launcher Pro or ADW though
Widgets sucked too...compared to sense.
People, Email, Calendar- suck compared to Sense
NOW I'm a business user so email, agendas, calendar notifications are a BIG deal to me as a consultant.
That being said, their facebook integration (see peoples pictures when they call you and people widget pics) sucked as well. Sense does a real good job of putting everything together automatically and linking everything. Consolidation is HUGE when you have all of these accounts. With Sense you don't even realize how good of a job this does.
That being said, again, SGS2 is a phenominal phone. It really is. The screen is fantastic (little cartoony though) and its a bit faster that EVO 3d at some stuff. I just depend on my phone for too much "Black berry" stuff to ever get away from Sense. Yeah there are third party apps for everything but odds are you have to pay for them (touchdown) and they don't integrate everything together NEARLY as well as Sense does.
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Thank you for the detailed answer. I appreciate it! Thinking bout getting me a Note and wanted to know
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Touchwiz is Samsungs own half-assed attempt to leave their own branding on Android as HTC does with Sense. The major differences are that Sense is both somewhat attractive and adds functionality, Touchwiz..... well, is ugly and doesn't work well at all.
Ha... Now sone input from someone who actually has a touchwiz phone XD. I also have an hd2 with sense 3 on it. First off, Touchwiz is hands down the slickest implementation of a skin on Android. By no means is it the most feature filled(I would argue the worst..), but with that said, it's so lightweight. It let's you customize you're homescreen in a more user friendly manner than everything out there and has a neat motion zoom control. The slide down task bar is more eye friendly and simple than sense, but lacks features. Same with the lockscreen. If you're looking for slicker and lightweight environment (a relief from imo bogged down sense in too many ways), get a Samsung phone. I saw you mention the Note... and if so, I've read nothing but amazing reviews of the thing. It's in a class of it's own. Don't expect any quick updates though.
Also, a user by the name of fr4ggor released Touchwiz 4.5(customizable version of tw4.) You could try it to get a 'sense'(ha) of what Touchwiz is about. (though reports of it being faulty for screens other than 800x480.)
Samsung makes generally superior internals(processor, screen, even camera..) and crazy light weight construction and software. You sacrifice build quality though.
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Yea on paper and from reviews/videos the note is the perfect phone for me big screen and all. I want it bad
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My friend went from his galaxy to a sensation and much prefers sense over touchwiz. Only complaint he has for his HTC over his Samsung is the speaker.
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Touchwiz is more like a custom ROM. Lightweight,fast, smooth, no bloatware and full of tweaks for performance and benchmarking.
Sense on the otherhand is more like a retail ROM. Stuffed with features to satisfy everyone. But it has a lot of blowtwarE. UI is smooth but not as smooth as touchwiz.
Think of it this way. Touchwiz is like windows xp. Fast light but lacks special features.
Sense 3.0 is like windows vista. Drastic UI change but disappointingly slow.
Sense 3.5 is like windows 7. Good UI and fast.
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Hello everyone,
For like 2 year now I still have iPhone 3G which was very relaxing (but now slow) so when I thought of update I thought about getting Android
So I got the Galaxy S2, It's a great phone with great hardware but I really guys dont know what exactly to tell you or what to say
but I find iPhone way more relaxing than Android and I really can't tell why
maybe the colors maybe the design of the android it self I really dont know
even though a lot of apps are available and everything is customizable but still
something is wrong for me and I dont know what it is, the motion and effects of the iphone are smoother or just better and gives you this great feeling and its not what it is on android
Also the keyboard, even though my screen is 4.3 inches and the keyboard is larger but I find that iPhone's keyboard is better it just feels good
My hope is very high with ICS 4 that Google would take care of UI and UX better than that, also organizing everything to make it easier or something
I know I'm not accurate but I just wanted to tell you guys to tell me what you really think and if its me only or everyone and also if you have a solution for this
Thanks
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maybe the colors maybe the design of the android it self I really dont know
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Iphone uses a very high resolution IPS LCD screen ("retina" is just a fancy marketing word for that), not AMOLED based like the Samsung phones (thus color reproduction will not be the same). If you don't like the default colors, try another theme (system themes require root to change, launcher themes do not).
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the motion and effects of the iphone are smoother or just better and gives you this great feeling and its not what it is on android
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Try a different launcher. Something like Go Launcher is pretty close the iphone. If that's not enough, try the MIUI ROM (requires root) for your phone if you haven't. MIUI is as close as you will get period to having an iphone while still having an android phone.
medorpg said:
Also the keyboard, even though my screen is 4.3 inches and the keyboard is larger but I find that iPhone's keyboard is better it just feels good
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Try another keyboard than the one the phone comes with (such a swype or swiftkey)? Generally the stock keyboard sucks.
Most iphone users that just start on android are not aware of the many replacement options (or if they are, they're not aware of specific ones that would solve their issues).
There's a saying that goes something like "If one is given infinite choices, some people will never be happy (since that they will forever think there is something better than what they currently have), but if one is told what choices they have, then they just grin and bear it, because that's all there is."
First thanks for your reply
but I already have Go Launcher and its okay for now
but actually I would like to install MIUI but I have a problem, I dont have a SD Card on my Galaxy S2 its just the internal memory so is there's anyway to install it without SD Card just using the internal memory ?
in both ways I will wait for android 4 I read about it and its really interesting that Google noticed that they have issues with their UI and I hope they solved this issue
This might just be the feature that pulls me away from AOKP for good. Windowed Multitasking is the one feature that I feel is crippling Android(and iOS for that matter) from rising as a serious competitor to traditional OSes(Windows, OS X, Ubuntu etc.). Anyone else excited for this?
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+1... looking forward to this for my galaxy and my 10... not really sure how necessary it is for me, or android in general. but maybe I'll realize I can't live without it.
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Already running PA for tablet mode but this just gives me even more reason to stick with them. I was running it on my S3 too but didn't really like it over TW.
Yup, very much looking forward to this. If they pull it off, I'll be a PA man from here on out! From watching the video, their implementation looks much nicer than most too.
It will depend somewhat on what Google are up to though, I'd be amazed if Android 5 doesn't have some form of multi-window mode and should be out in 3-4 weeks...
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It will depend somewhat on what Google are up to though, I'd be amazed if Android 5 doesn't have some form of multi-window mode and should be out in 3-4 weeks...
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And then 1-2 months of bugfixing in ROMs so it actually works ok
I asked about multitasking on PA thread for N10, and the answer wasn't far from what I think it might be the truth, seeing how is it going with the phones and tablets running PA ROM.
"Still far from done, and it's really questionable how exactly it will function on a tablet, seeing how the PA team is focused on phone development mostly. "
Interesting - I hope we get something like this. Another kick-ass developer timduru ported Cornerstone to EOS for the Asus Transformer TF101. It worked quite well. It certainly didn't make the TF101 any faster, but it was definitely something that I think improved the user experience on the tablet. I was able to watch video in one window and surf the net in another. :laugh:
For me, this was the most anticipated feature since I got my first Android tablet (which would be this one... :silly: ). Right now, I'm using the floating browser as a workaround, since the functionality of some apps can also be found on the web. - Except, of course, in offline situations.
I'm eagerly awaiting this, and I know that team PA can pull it off!
Pa just released a new video on Google +... it makes way more sense to me now... this will be rad with pie... Not sure how useful on the nexus 10 but awesome on my galaxy nexus... Can't wait
I guess I could post the link...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vlrgCteDac&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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For phones I can see this feature being extremely innovative and useful but for the Nexus 10 it would make more sense to implement something similar to cornerstone or what Samsung has done. Mostly due to the fact that tablets have such large real estate that can be utilized with multiple windows up.
The idea is great for phones but I, personally, would prefer something similar to what I mentioned. However, something is better than nothing.
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I would prefer actual windowed multitasking on the nexus 10, it makes sense on tablets as you have all that space and resolution that gets wasted on stretching out a single app
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As you all probably aware FireFox OS 2.5 developer preview is out. So I gathered some courage and downloaded the available Firefox Android app that lets you get a sneek preview of how the OS would run on your droid. I was too timid to flash the OS just yet.:laugh::laugh: So below are a few screenshots of Firefox OS running on our Xperia Z Ultra C6833 LTE.
Apart from the weirdly huge, elastic like app icons that feel like a kid's computer, surprisingly no apps were crashing except for Yahoo. Most things worked as normal including network after reboot. A few bugs with switching brightness and hitting the back button from settings did not work either, though it worked from browser and other apps.
I got to say you can clearly see what Firefox is trying to achieve here: Simplicity, Powerful and secure! There's definitely a lot to look forward from the Fox OS. Am I flashing this OS? It's a ride that is both luring and panicky!
SCREENSHOT ATTACHMENTS BELOW......
Installed it and took it for a spin, and it looks interesting, and it's cool to see something new and different. Other than that, I can't see this ship on high-end devices. Low-ends? Definitely (which they're already doing), but Android is so incredibly more powerful (in features and customizability) that I can't ever see myself run FirefoxOS on a daily basis. It's cool though and it'll be interesting to see what they do with it down the road.
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Installed it and took it for a spin, and it looks interesting, and it's cool to see something new and different. Other than that, I can't see this ship on high-end devices. Low-ends? Definitely (which they're already doing), but Android is so incredibly more powerful (in features and customizability) that I can't ever see myself run FirefoxOS on a daily basis. It's cool though and it'll be interesting to see what they do with it down the road.
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Very true. It will take sometime before we can even consider the the fox OS an alternative to Android OS. But if they continue tagging and improving on the shortcomings of Android, it sure will gain a fan base. People are always intrigued by something NEW!
Wait what? I've been using Firefox for months...
Ohhh OS.... Is it good?
Unfortunately, they (Mozilla) dropped the project... So there won't be final version.
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it s a rubbish os ... i think i work with nokia s40