Endomondo App - Samsung Gear S

Anybody know if this app will run with the gear without being bluetooth connected?

NinjaMom said:
Anybody know if this app will run with the gear without being bluetooth connected?
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It will not. It will say Failed to connect to service. I had hoped to use Endomondo as a standalone fitness tracker without my phone but that is not possible. S Health is the only app I've found that can work without a phone.
Endomondo (and S Health of course) can read the heart rate from the Gear S while Runtastic and Strava cannot. Hopefully an update will bring full standalone functionality.

jeffmplsmn said:
It will not. It will say Failed to connect to service. I had hoped to use Endomondo as a standalone fitness tracker without my phone but that is not possible. S Health is the only app I've found that can work without a phone.
Endomondo (and S Health of course) can read the heart rate from the Gear S while Runtastic and Strava cannot. Hopefully an update will bring full standalone functionality.
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It blows my mind all the data that the s health app will show you on the watch, but not in the app on the phone.
Also wish s health would give audible notifications at every mile like endomondo does.

+1 On Endomondo bringing full standalone functionality. To me the potential of this watch is its capabilities to be able to do more standalone tasks. The watch just came out so support for it may take a little time. The watch certainly has the capabilities to accomplish more than what it does out of the box, but we need developers support in order to take it to the next level. Hopefully more developers get on board.
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NinjaMom said:
Anybody know if this app will run with the gear without being bluetooth connected?
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No it will not work without the phone
@NeatSheep

paitobp said:
+1 On Endomondo bringing full standalone functionality. To me the potential of this watch is its capabilities to be able to do more standalone tasks. The watch just came out so support for it may take a little time. The watch certainly has the capabilities to accomplish more than what it does out of the box, but we need developers support in order to take it to the next level. Hopefully more developers get on board.
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^^ this. I would imagine the development team didn't design it for use as a stand alone app as prior to the GS, there was no standalone capability. I bet they are working on it now.

pdqgp said:
^^ this. I would imagine the development team didn't design it for use as a stand alone app as prior to the GS, there was no standalone capability. I bet they are working on it now.
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I hope they get it fully working with the watch soon!

NinjaMom said:
Anybody know if this app will run with the gear without being bluetooth connected?
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But, how can I understand this
This app could only be linked to one Android app, which means that our PRO users must use our Free app when using Gear S! But fear not – when you download the Free version and log in with the account associated with your PRO app, all your PRO features will be automatically unlocked.
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The pro features work on the free app if you use the same account that is associated with your pro account.

So, I understand that it will not work with stand alone. I have a sim card in my watch, shouldn't the phone be able to connect to the watch, even when it is not within bluetooth range by using cellular data? I get the sam error, can't connect to service.

Endmondo will not work unless Bluetooth connected to the phone unfortunately.

Related

[Q] How can we stop Android from phoning home?

Many of you have probably already read the news:
Apple, Google Receive Phone Users' Locations
I must say, they're doing it to a degree beyond what most of us may have assumed was taking place.
How can we stop this? Do we know if cooked ROMs also do it?
Update 4/25/2011 5:00PM ET:
- Here's how I stop Android from phoning home.
- I dont' use this, but here's a sweet google removal script.
- A seperate thread for discussion: Why the data Android sends to Google is less anonymous than Apple's implementation
Update 4/26/2011 9:25PM ET:
- [Q] How do we protect our Android device from the CelleBrite UFED?
Update 6/8/2011 5:24PM ET:
- Use Autostarts to stop apps from opening behind your back!
Its not that they care where you are personally, you're more of an anonomous statistic to them. They use these huge mountains of collected data to decide which markets are the most potentially lucrative fir them to invest their zillions of dollars of advertising and marketing money into. You and I will likely never be directly affected by our locations being disclosed, save for more accurate search suggestions from our google search widgets.
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I'll ask again to try and keep this thread on topic. Anyone who wants to discuss why the companies do it is free to start another thread and discuss that there.
How can we stop this? Do we know if cooked ROMs also do it?
Droidwall...
I was so mad when I heard what they were doing, I wanted to throw my phone out the window. How is it even legal for them to do this, regardless of where its anonymous or not its still bs and I want that crap off my phone. I am a newb to the whole android and software thing and I wish I could help.
There out to find your house and steal your prized poodle. Honestly if its for marketing then it what it is. Honestly if you want to get mad at something, get mad at T-Mobile for throttling 4G speeds. I see what your saying but I would like them putting the right ads for my area and know quickest way to the quickie-e-mart.
Also we are using their OS.
Every other OS is monitored also.
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What's with the useless comments defending these companies?
Can anyone answer the question - DO cooked ROMs also track your location?
According to this article, Android tracks the last 50 mobile masts and last 200 WiFi networks.
This is a problem, anyone have the solution?
I found this comment on one of the articles, does this explain it?
All mobile phones keep a record of the locations and unique IDs of the most recent mobile masts that it has communicated with. It's called the neighbour cell list and normally it enables the phone to connect to the network more quickly than it otherwise would. GSM mobile phones have done this since about 1992.
To see the benefits storing the neighbour cell list compare the time it takes a mobile to find a network after it is switched on in a new location, e.g., after a long flight, with the time it takes to find a network when the phone is switched on in the location where it was switched off.
The difference in the iPhone case is that the iPhone is keeping this information for such a long period of time.
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I found this comment on one of the articles, does this explain it?
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That is about the iPhone storing, not about a device sending GPS location data day and night.
So far, the only mentioned potential solution is Droidwall.
I'm going to play around with that.
There's a related app named HiSurfing, but one reviewer says that does not work as well as DroidWall. Seems DroidWall does a better job of keeping things from slipping out when they've been blocked.
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So far, the only mentioned potential solution is Droidwall.
I'm going to play around with that.
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The only viable option I can see to block is "10052: Network Location, Google Calendar Sync, Google Services Framework, Google Contacts Sync."
Problem is, I use some of these.
I have ultimate juice defender it has a section in it where you can control how and when apps connect to the network, but I don't know if it will stop the Droid from phoning home.
wrapper said:
The only viable option I can see to block is "10052: Network Location, Google Calendar Sync, Google Services Framework, Google Contacts Sync."
Problem is, I use some of these.
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Yea, it uses a different listing number on my device, but "Network Location, Google Calendar Sync, Google Services Framework, Google Contacts Sync" may be the one to disable to stop the device from phoning home. I sync my data locally (via MyPhoneExplorer), so I can't think of any personal need for those, I've disabled that from all network and WiFi connectivity.
I've done some testing (blocking an app I could test with) and the firewall continues to work even after exiting DroidWall and even after killing DroidWall with a task killer. That's good to see so it won't be any burden on the battery.
I'm not any expert that can test for "certain" whether my device has really stopped phoning Google with my location data, but this seems to be the best shot for now.
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I've done some testing (blocking an app I could test with) and the firewall continues to work even after exiting DroidWall and even after killing DroidWall with a task killer. That's good to see so it won't be any burden on the battery.
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That's because DroidWall is just an interface for iptables, the built-in firewall. So your battery life will not change at all, that's correct.
I'm not any expert that can test for "certain" whether my device has really stopped phoning Google with my location data, but this seems to be the best shot for now.
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You could connect to your wireless network, run a sniffer like Wireshark on your PC and check whether any packets are transmitted to Google servers.
frosty_ice said:
You could connect to your wireless network, run a sniffer like Wireshark on your PC and check whether any packets are transmitted to Google servers.
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Or turn on my router's logging and check there, yea either of those would work.
Not sure if/when I'll get around to it .
droidhell said:
I have ultimate juice defender it has a section in it where you can control how and when apps connect to the network, but I don't know if it will stop the Droid from phoning home.
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that seems like the best app if it works, any way to verify?
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that seems like the best app if it works, any way to verify?
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I'm new to Droid, I really don't know how to test and see, it does stop other app really well, as far as a OS I don't know.
From what i here it's all stored in a location history file.
One simple solution might be to routinely delete this file.
Doesn't exactly solve the problem.
Might we consider expanding the subject to protecting our privacy? If not, I apologize in advance, as I think it is all connected.
It is probably Darnell's call, as he started the thread.
In the meantime, please consider this article: http://bit.ly/gCynrh
So let me understand this. I buy access to a network for my phone, which I also paid for. My location information, which is the result of my purchases is being used to generate income. So I'm allowing my spent cash to generate data and be leveraged to generate income. My information wouldn't exist with out my investment in the technology, so I own it.
I'm paying to be stalked !!!
Reduce my bill, provide remuneration for my investment in this technology, prove that it's anonymous, remember since I paid for the means to generate the data- the data belongs to me.
BTW for $1.50 I'll wire the battery to switch off, try getting data then.
I'd rather have an app which monitors my relevant info and bills the users for access to it.

Stratos Chinese or English?

Great work on the Pace/Stratos ROMs.
Apologize if my questions are already answered. I searched the forums and not able to find answers to my questions.
I'm planning to get the Stratos and have some questions. I wanted to see my activities on both AmazFit app and MifFit app. I read that to have that feature I should be on the Chinese version and not on the International version. If I use the Chinese version, does it show up all in Chinese language or is there is an option to select English language?
Also, would like to confirm that Stratos can pair to a external HR sensor and possibly to a Stryd foot pod?
If I buy the English International version, can I change the firmware to Chinese? Is there a way to add a custom activity? I would like to track P90X and Insanity workouts.
I have iPhone X and please let me know that both the versions work wonderfully well with the X.
Appreciate reply.
Thanks.
Only Bluetooth HR chest straps are supported. No footpod. Chinese firmware is Chinese only. No cardio, weight lifting or yoga workouts are supported.
As workouts app try Nike Training Club.
Thanks for the reply.
So, if I buy the Chinese version of Stratos and then installl the English ROM, will I be able to pair with MiFit app?
I didn’t get what you meant by “Nike Training Club app”. Will this app work on the Stratos?
Please advise.
NTC app is on the phone. MiFit app does not work with Stratos.
samiphone said:
Thanks for the reply.
So, if I buy the Chinese version of Stratos and then installl the English ROM, will I be able to pair with MiFit app?
I didn’t get what you meant by “Nike Training Club app”. Will this app work on the Stratos?
Please advise.
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Hi Sami,
If you buy the chinese version you can change the firmware to the english version and it'll be able to pair with "Amazfit watch" english app (I've already did that), I'm not sure about miFit, I think that app it's only for the other device.
I use the Amazfit spanish app and it can be synchronized with Strava, but there isn't more apps.
samiphone said:
Thanks for the reply.
So, if I buy the Chinese version of Stratos and then installl the English ROM, will I be able to pair with MiFit app?
I didn’t get what you meant by “Nike Training Club app”. Will this app work on the Stratos?
Please advise.
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The official English ROM will not sync with MiFit, the custom one based on the Chinese firmware will
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The official English ROM will not sync with MiFit, the custom one based on the Chinese firmware will
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Hi,
I'm interested on what you said. - "The custom one based on Chinese firmware will pair with MiFit." So, if I understand correctly, I can buy the Chinese version of Stratos and then patch it with a custom ROM (which may possibly give me English language ?) and then pair with MiFit app? Also, to let you know that I have the iPhone X.
Btw, since there is no option to add a custom workout profile (cardio, weight training etc for now), it is possible to install Endomondo or Sports Tracker or Sportsractive apk on the Pace 2 (Stratos) and run it to track indoor workouts like weight lifting, cardio etc.? If it is possible, then would like to know if I can also port the daily tracking metrics to those apps? This is the only feature that I'm missing and it is stopping me to buy this wonderful watch.
To summarize, I would like to get all the metrics on the MiFit app (since I read that it has more feature set than the Amazfit app) along with the ability to run Endomondo or other third party fitness app (apk) and somehow get that data ported to Google fit. I think the data in the MiFit app can be ported to Google Fit?
Please help.
Thanks.
bestfit777 said:
Hi,
I'm interested on what you said. - "The custom one based on Chinese firmware will pair with MiFit." So, if I understand correctly, I can buy the Chinese version of Stratos and then patch it with a custom ROM (which may possibly give me English language ?) and then pair with MiFit app? Also, to let you know that I have the iPhone X.
Btw, since there is no option to add a custom workout profile (cardio, weight training etc for now), it is possible to install Endomondo or Sports Tracker or Sportsractive apk on the Pace 2 (Stratos) and run it to track indoor workouts like weight lifting, cardio etc.? If it is possible, then would like to know if I can also port the daily tracking metrics to those apps? This is the only feature that I'm missing and it is stopping me to buy this wonderful watch.
To summarize, I would like to get all the metrics on the MiFit app (since I read that it has more feature set than the Amazfit app) along with the ability to run Endomondo or other third party fitness app (apk) and somehow get that data ported to Google fit. I think the data in the MiFit app can be ported to Google Fit?
Please help.
Thanks.
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If you buy the Chinese or International model (both will work), flash the Stratosified ROM (after unlocking the bootloader) and then use the Chinese Amazfit app (which will take some getting on an iPhone unfortunately), it will work with MiFit, I believe. I use the Pacefied ROM on my Pace, with the Chinese Amazfit app and it works with MiFit, which can indeed sync with Google Fit.
As far as I know, there's no way to use Endomondo though, and Strava requires the International ROM, so it's a choice between MiFit & Google Fit or Strava
Thank you for your comments.
So, you’re sure that endomondo or any other fitness app cannot be run from Stratos? Can somebody quickly try to download from apkmirror and let us know? I remember seeing a thread on side loading apk files.
Please confirm.
Thanks.
Due to privacy concerns I don't like Strava either. But it connects to many other services. Endomondo will not work since the watch has no google play and fit services.
If I go with Strava premium, will it allow to sync non GPS activities from Stratos?
Is there any remote possibility of tracking cardio/weight lifting exercises with the watch? I’m looking into tracking P90X/Cardio on a daily basis in the same way, Garmin allows to add a new workout profile (by choosing data fields) from within the watch. The other possibility is make Stratos talk to a web portal where we can add custom activities and sync it to the watch in the same way Sunnto Movescount web app allows.
Btw, any other fitness app similar to Endiomondo that can track all activities (including a custom one) and sync with the app? With Apple Watch, for example, I can use third party watch apps (Under Armour Record) and track on the device and online on the web.
Just my 2 cents.
Please advise.
Thank you.
Quinny899 said:
Strava requires the International ROM, so it's a choice between MiFit & Google Fit or Strava
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I saw some videos on youtube of people able to sync with mifit and strava by pairing the starts to the chinese and after to to the english version of amazfit watch.
does this really work ?
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NTC app is on the phone. MiFit app does not work with Stratos.
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if mifit does not work with starts, what is the way to extract steps, HR to Apple health or 3rd party apps with a Stratos ?
chocorem said:
if mifit does not work with starts, what is the way to extract steps, HR to Apple health or 3rd party apps with a Stratos ?
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Not sure is this helps with iOS since you cannot download/install old apps (unless your device is jailbroken, what is very rare nowadays):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/amazfit/android-sync-amazfit-pace-v1-3-5-stock-t3719958
I was able to sync with MiFit on Android using the international versions of Amazfit and MiFit apps, using my Pace. Long story short, it seems that the sync is mostly done using the cloud, so you only need to bind/authorise your watch. So I used Amazfit in Chinese to bind my Pace to my Mi account, then uninstalled the app, installed both Amazfit and MiFi in EN, logged in using my Google account to Amazfit first, then MiFit, and when MiFit opened Amazfit it was possible to find my watch. It's a bit complicated to do on iOS, you must have to change the phone's language/region to download the CN version, but you can try. If you still need help, I suggest that you start a new thread with your exact configuration and questions, it's not nice to place similar questions all over the board. Good luck.
Hello guys, i have another question about mi home app. Only chinese version have the feature to control xiaomi home devices? Maybe to this works, the mi home apk should be installed at watch, right? With English version, I can install this too?
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Hello guys, i have another question about mi home app. Only chinese version have the feature to control xiaomi home devices? Maybe to this works, the mi home apk should be installed at watch, right? With English version, I can install this too?
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Some people have tried, but it didn't work with EN version, wouldn't even install. You'd better try a CN or CN based ROM.

[DEV/LIBRARY]Amazfit Communication: 2 way communication for Pace/Stratos inc internet

Amazfit Communication Library
The Amazfit Communication Library is a reverse engineered and modified version of the Huami "Transporter" class (and its subclass "TransporterClassic"), along with its dependencies. This allows both sending and receiving data on both the phone and the watch, using the same library.
Bascially, this allows apps on the watch to access data via a companion app on the phone. To make this easier, this library comes hand in hand with the "AmazfitInternetCommunication" app, which can be installed on the phone and allows apps on the watch to access the internet and perform simple requests, with data in response.
However, you can use this library with your own companion app on the phone to access any data the phone app has access to, for example a companion app on the phone with access to calendar appointments would allow a watch app to display events on a calendar, on the watch.
Usage
See the GitHub repo for the latest code and guide for addition of the library. You can also compile it if you wish.
Amazfit Internet Companion
Amazfit Internet Companion is a generic and open source internet companion app for the Amazfit Pace and Stratos. It allows apps developed with the Amazfit Communication library to access the internet over Bluetooth via a phone's internet connection. As a developer, rather than having to develop your own companion app, you can simply have your users install the companion app and it'll handle the rest, so long as you use the internet functions in the library (LocalURLRequest). Link them to the thread or use your own guide, linking to the latest APK from the repo to use this.
Alternatively, you can develop your own companion app. This could be used for loads of things, for example a companion app could provide a watch app with the calendar events on the phone, provided the phone app had the right permissions and formatted the data correctly. If you want to make your own companion app, feel free to use the Internet Companion app as a base
Hi Quinny, thanks for your great work. Did you make tests of how much this affects the battery life, egg with your train app?
Is it possible to run this in as a background service on watch?
Klaus3d said:
Hi Quinny, thanks for your great work. Did you make tests of how much this affects the battery life, egg with your train app?
Is it possible to run this in as a background service on watch?
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I've not done proper tests but I've had it running for a few days with no noticeable effect on the life. Yes, you should be able to use a background service on the watch, if you need an app on the watch to always be available for receiving information from the phone - but bear in mind that the watch only has 512MB of RAM, so a running service is more taxing on the watch compared to a phone. You may be better off with a background service on the phone that stores the information you wish to send to the watch, which then responds to the watch app when it's run - an ondemand request if you will
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I've not done proper tests but I've had it running for a few days with no noticeable effect on the life. Yes, you should be able to use a background service on the watch, if you need an app on the watch to always be available for receiving information from the phone - but bear in mind that the watch only has 512MB of RAM, so a running service is more taxing on the watch compared to a phone. You may be better off with a background service on the phone that stores the information you wish to send to the watch, which then responds to the watch app when it's run - an ondemand request if you will
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So if the watch can get any data from the phone, does that mean I can run Wear apps, like the Hangouts Wear app, on the watch and use it as it works on a regular Wear device? If so that would be incredible.
still work for watches in 2020?
hello, I know it's been a while since the last time this topic was discussed, does anyone know how to inform without this package still working today? I recently purchased an amazfit verge and since my house is completely automated, I want to develop an app for personal use ... thanks!
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hello, I know it's been a while since the last time this topic was discussed, does anyone know how to inform without this package still working today? I recently purchased an amazfit verge and since my house is completely automated, I want to develop an app for personal use ... thanks!
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Still works, not tested it on the Verge though. Should work the same, they use the same framework I think.
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Still works, not tested it on the Verge though. Should work the same, they use the same framework I think.
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[BIP]Compatibility with fitness apps( like Endomondo...)

Hello,
I have BIP and I'm happy with it functionality in general.
The problem is that it has not compatibility with the most popular fitness apps. I'm premium user of Endomondo, but i checked also Stavra, Runtastic....
Do you know some app with can work with the smart watch? Or some easy way to get more of it with endomondo?
Thank you in advance.

Question Multiple User Accounts

Hi! Finally got my S23U and have begun setting it up.
All is good but was shocked to see the lack of multiple user feature on it. On my other android phone I create a "work" user which then has all settings/apps related to work. I can then switch amongst my profiles as needed. Note that my workplace pretty much controls the phone upon installing their security app (they could wipe out everything if need be) so these separate profiles is crucial.
I know Samsung has "secure folder" but unless I can have multiple of them it is not useful in this case. I cannot mix my personal stuff that I want to securely store with my work stuff on the same secure folder.
There are some apps on play store but are either non-standard (eg. Parallel Space) or not maintained (eg. Island).
Appreciate any suggestions.
Get a second work phone. I definitely wouldn't put their junkware on my personal phone!
[email protected] said:
Hi! Finally got my S23U and have begun setting it up.
All is good but was shocked to see the lack of multiple user feature on it. On my other android phone I create a "work" user which then has all settings/apps related to work. I can then switch amongst my profiles as needed. Note that my workplace pretty much controls the phone upon installing their security app (they could wipe out everything if need be) so these separate profiles is crucial.
I know Samsung has "secure folder" but unless I can have multiple of them it is not useful in this case. I cannot mix my personal stuff that I want to securely store with my work stuff on the same secure folder.
There are some apps on play store but are either non-standard (eg. Parallel Space) or not maintained (eg. Island).
Appreciate any suggestions.
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You can install shelter from fdroid or island from google play and make a work profile without root.
spart0n said:
You can install shelter from fdroid or island from google play and make a work profile without root.
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Thank you for the suggestions. I'll check it out.
blackhawk said:
Get a second work phone. I definitely wouldn't put their junkware on my personal phone!
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My last option. Carrying two phone around is annoying when I could do it with just one before.
[email protected] said:
Hi! Finally got my S23U and have begun setting it up.
All is good but was shocked to see the lack of multiple user feature on it. On my other android phone I create a "work" user which then has all settings/apps related to work. I can then switch amongst my profiles as needed. Note that my workplace pretty much controls the phone upon installing their security app (they could wipe out everything if need be) so these separate profiles is crucial.
I know Samsung has "secure folder" but unless I can have multiple of them it is not useful in this case. I cannot mix my personal stuff that I want to securely store with my work stuff on the same secure folder.
There are some apps on play store but are either non-standard (eg. Parallel Space) or not maintained (eg. Island).
Appreciate any suggestions.
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Shelter is your friend.
Multiple Users was supposed to be included in OneUI 5.0 and was available in their beta. But for some unknown reasons, they removed this stock Android feature from the stable build.
[email protected] said:
My last option. Carrying two phone around is annoying when I could do it with just one before.
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Best to keep work and personal phones separate for a variety of reasons. Or simply only use/carry the work phone when at work. If your employer requires a work phone they should supply it... otherwise they shouldn't set requirements for a employee purchased phone.
blackhawk said:
If your employer requires a work phone they should supply it... otherwise they shouldn't set requirements for a employee purchased phone.
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Agree.
blackhawk said:
Best to keep work and personal phones separate for a variety of reasons.
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Can you elaborate on some scenarios when this will indeed be worth it, considering the inconvenience of carrying 2 phones.
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Can you elaborate on some scenarios when this will indeed be worth it, considering the inconvenience of carrying 2 phones.
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Just common sense. Keep your personal and business lives separate as much as possible.
Businesses are malware targets as well. You have no choice but to download business related e-docs. On my personal devices I closely monitor any downloads. Only installed 3rd party apps carry a higher risk of infection.
blackhawk said:
Just common sense. Keep your personal and business lives separate as much as possible.
Businesses are malware targets as well. You have no choice but to download business related e-docs. On my personal devices I closely monitor any downloads. Only installed 3rd party apps carry a higher risk of infection.
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That's exactly what Profiles do. They isolate and keep apps and their data separate, and do not allow apps in one profile to access data on another profile.
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That's exactly what Profiles do. They isolate and keep apps and their data separate, and do not allow apps in one profile to access data on another profile.
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It also slows the phone's performance down. You're still using the same sim, ip address, hardware; not near enough isolation. I don't like the plan, sorry.
[email protected] said:
Hi! Finally got my S23U and have begun setting it up.
All is good but was shocked to see the lack of multiple user feature on it. On my other android phone I create a "work" user which then has all settings/apps related to work. I can then switch amongst my profiles as needed. Note that my workplace pretty much controls the phone upon installing their security app (they could wipe out everything if need be) so these separate profiles is crucial.
I know Samsung has "secure folder" but unless I can have multiple of them it is not useful in this case. I cannot mix my personal stuff that I want to securely store with my work stuff on the same secure folder.
There are some apps on play store but are either non-standard (eg. Parallel Space) or not maintained (eg. Island).
Appreciate any suggestions.
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My S23U does have a Work profile (see attached screenshot) and, separately, a Secure Folder. They are not the same thing. It's basically like having three profiles on one device. My employer can only see the data in my Work profile.
blackhawk said:
It also slows the phone's performance down. You're still using the same sim, ip address, hardware; not near enough isolation. I don't like the plan, sorry.
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I haven't seen any performance drop. You can turn OFF work profile when required, and that will disable access completely.
pyrolad said:
My S23U does have a Work profile (see attached screenshot) and, separately, a Secure Folder. They are not the same thing. It's basically like having three profiles on one device. My employer can only see the data in my Work profile.
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How? Is it the US version?
pyrolad said:
My S23U does have a Work profile (see attached screenshot) and, separately, a Secure Folder. They are not the same thing. It's basically like having three profiles on one device. My employer can only see the data in my Work profile.
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I'm having issues enabling the work profile. How did you do it?
I was able to get it to work by using Island instead of Shelter
[email protected] said:
How? Is it the US version?
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I was able to get it to work by using the "Island" app. I've used "Shelter" for years but I don't think it's being developed anymore so I tried Island and it works.
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King-ish said:
I was able to get it to work by using the "Island" app. I've used "Shelter" for years but I don't think it's being developed anymore so I tried Island and it works.
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Island repo hasn't had any activity since Sept 2021.
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Island repo hasn't had any activity since Sept 2021.
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Their app was updated February of last year. My understanding is since these apps (Shelter/Island) are only making the work profile more accessible, there isn't a lot of development unless there is a major underlying change to the OS or Work Profile framework like with Android 13. The Android 13 beta was released February 10, 2022 and the last Island update was February 22, 2022.
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[email protected] said:
Island repo hasn't had any activity since Sept 2021.
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My preferred app for this is Shelter and I thought they abandoned it, but it looks like they update their app on F-Droid.
Shelter | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
Isolate and run multiple instances of apps using Work Profiles
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@King-ish Thanks! Went with the FOSS implementation of Island at Insular.
Have the work profile setup.

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