Anyone done any serious damage to theirs yet?
I always wrap my phones up in glass and rubber (ooh ,sounds wrong!) as soon as I get them, but I have resisted the temptation to buy a screen protector for the S at the moment.
The band can easily be replaced, so I am not too fussed about that. But what about the body? I have worn mine out on a few errands, the most 'dangerous' mission was to the local tip.
Whilst there I 'clocked it' (no pun intended) against a metal bin! To my horror I saw what looked like a nice gouge along the polished edge, spreading slightly onto the screen - made me feel slightly unwell
When I got home I gave it a clean and polish - no marks whatsoever! Colour me impressed.
The glass does feel very tough, but I was worried about the trim. Seems to be holding up pretty well though.
So far, all I tested was putting it under water tap. When I go on my cruise the week after, I will test it in the ocean's salt water.
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So far, all I tested was putting it under water tap. When I go on my cruise the week after, I will test it in the ocean's salt water.
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It says in the manual to avoid salt water.
bisto321 said:
Anyone done any serious damage to theirs yet?
I always wrap my phones up in glass and rubber (ooh ,sounds wrong!) as soon as I get them, but I have resisted the temptation to buy a screen protector for the S at the moment.
The band can easily be replaced, so I am not too fussed about that. But what about the body? I have worn mine out on a few errands, the most 'dangerous' mission was to the local tip.
Whilst there I 'clocked it' (no pun intended) against a metal bin! To my horror I saw what looked like a nice gouge along the polished edge, spreading slightly onto the screen - made me feel slightly unwell
When I got home I gave it a clean and polish - no marks whatsoever! Colour me impressed.
The glass does feel very tough, but I was worried about the trim. Seems to be holding up pretty well though.
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Your encounter with the bin seems to prove that it's pretty tough. It has gorilla glass so it should be very hard to scratch (though sand can be quite damaging) also it appears to be quite thick and being curved could mean sharp objects could slip away from it.
As for the trim, I can't work out whether it's metal or plastic. Probably metal which means it will scratch but still be quite resistant to knocks.
I had an original Galaxy Gear watch and was always whacking it against walls and stuff and never had a single ding or scratch. So I wouldn't worry too much, be careful but don't stress.
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Hey its been a while. Yes, I am aware but that is durability testing. Generally speaking it should be fine if afterwards I wash it down with tap water to make sure all salt is gone then let it dry. But I will put it simply, I need it for salt water uses, if it doesn't work in salt water and it dies. That would take away my biggest reason for purchasing it. So this will be a test of durability.
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Hey its been a while. Yes, I am aware but that is durability testing. Generally speaking it should be fine if afterwards I wash it down with tap water to make sure all salt is gone then let it dry. But I will put it simply, I need it for salt water uses, if it doesn't work in salt water and it dies. That would take away my biggest reason for purchasing it. So this will be a test of durability.
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Salt water is bad for this device. It has too many cavities....speaker grille, SIM slot, charging pins. I suspect your Gear S will not be long for this world if you use it for extended periods (> 2 hours) in salt water.
Furthermore, if you are near sand, it should also scratch the watchface, since Gorilla Glass WILL be scratched by sand.
If that is its fate, so be it. But I don't think I will use it for extended periods and don't exactly plan to go diving with it.
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When i look along the top and bottom edge i swear it looks like its slightly bowed in the center. Is this just mine?? The only issue i have is gps, otherwise no issues
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When i look along the top and bottom edge i swear it looks like its slightly bowed in the center. Is this just mine?? The only issue i have is gps, otherwise no issues
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I've noticed the same thing with my TFP a few days ago. I can feel the curvature when my hand is on the back of the device.
Anyone else notice this?
I thinkbwith the back being thin aluminum, it can be bended easily or Joe out if too much pressure applied. Some nights already I've fell asleep n rolled over on top of the prime..lol. n I'm 6'4-6'5 240lbs...so this was a concern of mines also over the long run. Its so thin though n pretty durable. During the first week or so my daughter slammed a thick heavy Comcast cable remote onto the screen n it did nothing to it. Scared me for a moment...lol. didn't even scratch it. Loving this gorilla glass
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I thinkbwith the back being thin aluminum, it can be bended easily or Joe out if too much pressure applied. Some nights already I've fell asleep n rolled over on top of the prime..lol. n I'm 6'4-6'5 240lbs...so this was a concern of mines also over the long run. Its so thin though n pretty durable. During the first week or so my daughter slammed a thick heavy Comcast cable remote onto the screen n it did nothing to it. Scared me for a moment...lol. didn't even scratch it. Loving this gorilla glass
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It's feel pretty durable, but I wonder if the thing bending over time will have any problems (or maybe the thing bends to a certain degree and stops?). If I look at it from a profile view (landscape), I can see the curvature of the thing...it looks like it's bowed.
Just like the OP, everything else works well besides the GPS.
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It's feel pretty durable, but I wonder if the thing bending over time will have any problems (or maybe the thing bends to a certain degree and stops?). If I look at it from a profile view (landscape), I can see the curvature of the thing...it looks like it's bowed.
Just like the OP, everything else works well besides the GPS.
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Yes it'll bend only as far as the glass will since they attached to each other. Too much n the glass will either snap or case bent so much that glass pops out of the flush seams it has with metal backing.
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Yes it'll bend only as far as the glass will since they attached to each other. Too much n the glass will either snap or case bent so much that glass pops out of the flush seams it has with metal backing.
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Mine has a convex curve as well. Hard to give Asus engineers too much credit in light of the wifi and gps issues - but the curve could have been intentional as it actually makes the face of the prime more durable and impact resistant since it curves out toward you. Some of the Impact on the glass will be absorbed in compression instead of a bending load - making it less susceptible to breaking.
So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
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So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
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one year in, and no glass breaking
your routine won't break the phone, i'm sure
screen protector, i have one on top of the anti shatter film provided with the phone, both front and back, and both scratched to hell, but too lazy to replace
Definitely put a aftermarket screen protector over the anti shatter film. The ASF is too soft, but is a pain in the arse to remove by all accounts
I've had my ZU for about 9 months now and have dropped it 3 times onto concrete, once without any screen proctor or case, the other two times has been with a wallet/flip case. The last time I dropped it the case even broke - still the screen is intact.
I too thought it wont happen to mine, till it really did, of course it's not self breaking glass for no reason, but more likely the most logical reason I could think of is, the stress accumulated from the daily use, a bit of pressure while in pocket, or backpack, along with the heat / cold temperature, whatever other bull crap from regular use, over a period of time, that stress cause the glass to be broken.
I pretty much babied my Z Ultra, have back casing, Glass M on the front, Skinomi on the back, never dropped, all in like new condition. Then last Sunday I was on my bike ride, put it inside my backpack, along with my wallet, then couple hours later, took it out from my backpack only to find the glass, under the M Glass screen protector, under the original ASF, has a hairline crack, and pretty much as good as brick, since it wont register any touch, I can see a call coming in, but cant answer it since the display doesnt work.
OP said it happens with Z1, I read that it happens with Z2, and it happens with my Z Ultra, so I think it's just something on their glass quality along with their full glass design, it is impacting a small number of them, not all, just small number, but still the problem indeed does exists.
But I still buy another Z Ultra in a heart beat without much thinking, as a matter of fact already got another one from expensys, with the price is so cheap now, the smoothness, the crisp display, the waterproofness, it still worth every penny.
Mine broke in the pocket, and so did others.
It can break. But with that said, the risk yours will break in the pocket with no abuse is small.
Sony aren't very consistent in handling these cases. Sometimes they get it fixed on warranty, sometimes they're not. But if you get a first negative answer just send in a complaint and they might turn around (as in my case).
I just got mine back. I had the asf removed on the previous one, I'm not taking it off now. And I'm doubling up with tempered glass protectors.
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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boystuff said:
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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i live right on the equator, and have not had any problems with this (i also use a screen protector on top of the antishatter film). do you mean to say by removing the anti-shatter film, the glass doesn't pick up any fingerprints and oil? a screen can only be oleophobic for so long.
To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
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To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
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Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
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Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
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But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
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But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
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Yes but the aluminum bumper case is very flimsy stamped aluminum. You would need something with zero give like aircraft grade. An aluminum or plastic shell would be the way to go, but That bumper case is just to prevent chiping of the sides, and give a mm lip when laying the phone on its front/back.
I just use a rubber back cover and THAT'S IT. No problems for me. And yes i keep it in my jeans' pocket most of the time. It does hinder my movement a little though
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The better way to deal with the size is not to put in jeans pocket. In winter, jacket pockets I guess are ok. In summer, I guess the best way would be to buy a camera bag or something for this. I think that would solve this problem.
I just got the phone and I am kinda surprised to see how thin it is. Definitely not a phone you should stress too much.
A big thanks to several members of this community, biggest thanks goes to T-R as I followed much of his instructions here
My goal was to replace the back but also place metal plates for my CD tray magnetic car holder.
I ordered three of the factory second backs from SlickWraps, the dark leather, football leather and cork. My first try was going to be with the cork as I figured it to be the most forgiving. I ordered the same plastic sheeting and 3M strips that T-R ordered.
Tools I used:
Hair Dryer to heat back
Library card to help peel off back
Pick to start initial prying of back
1/16th drill bit for microphone hole
Xacto knife to cut plastic sheet
Dremel to cut metal plate
I'm not good at step by step instructions so I apologize for not walking through what steps it took to make this happen. Feel free to ask if you are curious. My first attempt at the metal plate was too big and the back kept popping off. I put only one of the plates back over the little divot under the camera but didn't take pics before putting back on again as I didn't think it would work, seems it did.
My pros and cons and pics.
Pros:
Love the feel of the cork
Feels close to stock when not being nit picky
My slickwrap experience was great, order on Wednesday, in my mailbox on Friday
Fit of the cork back is impressively good minus one issue, see below
Cons:
Buy extra stickers, I screwed up the first and was glad to have a second but will need more if I want to change it
Mic hole is no where near where it should be on the cork back, might be part of why it's a factory second
Stickers are not as strong as the Motorola goop
Rookie mistake:
I had left the screen naked while working on all of this and scratched the hell out of it (my standards, others ask where when they look at it)
thanks for sharing. always love to see pics of what others are doing. what kind of magnetic holder do u use? any pics of the damage to the screen?
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thanks for sharing. always love to see pics of what others are doing. what kind of magnetic holder do u use? any pics of the damage to the screen?
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I tried taking a pic of the scratches and they don't show up well; they are probably not as bad as I make them out to be. I switched over to this mount because it has the strongest magnet I could find in a CD mount holder.
I'm tempted to switch the back out for one of the leather ones, I'm never satisfied.
No matter how nice it looks, it's certainly not worth scratching the screen for. I never put my phone face down on any surface that is not soft and I've never scratched the screen on any of my numerous phones. I hate screen protectors because they always look and feel horrible but I am super careful about the screen. That's the bit you interact with all the time and it would really bother me to have even the slightest scratch on it.
Otherwise, good job.
Was curious on how the plastic backing under the skin was holding in terms of sticking. I was thinking about doing the same thing and wanted to know how good the plastic/tape combo was at holding over time. Any lifting occur?
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Was curious on how the plastic backing under the skin was holding in terms of sticking. I was thinking about doing the same thing and wanted to know how good the plastic/tape combo was at holding over time. Any lifting occur?
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My first install was my learning exercise and I can't say it would have survived long term, started popping up on the edges. Just this past week I installed the football textured leather back and am very happy with it. Thus far it is not popping up anywhere but I had learned a lot from my last install. New learnings:
Have a brand new x-acto blade, works so much easier making the plastic template back
Scuff the plastic backing before applying the sticker, it comes shiny and smooth
I bought a heat gun and found out quickly the plastic back can warp easily so be careful when heating it
Still heat it though and hold for a good 30-60 seconds after
Leave a small gap around around the sticky tape after applying to the back, if you try to cut it perfect you land up with a bare edge
Install the plastic back first to the phone, leave it for a day if you can. If it pops up, heat the hell out of it and hold as strongly as you can for a minute or so ( I wore gloves)
Heat again after applying the leather back, heat really helps the application stick
If you buy the regular leather be aware it's not treated with any water resistance or proofing and any water will mark it.
If you are buying the Factory Second versions buy a couple, they are only $10 each and $2 shipping total.
The bump near the camera is from the metal plate I installed for my car mount, I couldn't fully conceal it.
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My first install was my learning exercise and I can't say it would have survived long term, started popping up on the edges. Just this past week I installed the football textured leather back and am very happy with it. Thus far it is not popping up anywhere but I had learned a lot from my last install. New learnings:
Have a brand new x-acto blade, works so much easier making the plastic template back
Scuff the plastic backing before applying the sticker, it comes shiny and smooth
I bought a heat gun and found out quickly the plastic back can warp easily so be careful when heating it
Still heat it though and hold for a good 30-60 seconds after
Leave a small gap around around the sticky tape after applying to the back, if you try to cut it perfect you land up with a bare edge
Install the plastic back first to the phone, leave it for a day if you can. If it pops up, heat the hell out of it and hold as strongly as you can for a minute or so ( I wore gloves)
Heat again after applying the leather back, heat really helps the application stick
If you buy the regular leather be aware it's not treated with any water resistance or proofing and any water will mark it.
If you are buying the Factory Second versions buy a couple, they are only $10 each and $2 shipping total.
The bump near the camera is from the metal plate I installed for my car mount, I couldn't fully conceal it.
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Awesome, thanks for the tips. I'm actually using a skin from TOAST so I'll see how everything pans out.
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My first install was my learning exercise and I can't say it would have survived long term, started popping up on the edges. Just this past week I installed the football textured leather back and am very happy with it. Thus far it is not popping up anywhere but I had learned a lot from my last install. New learnings:
Have a brand new x-acto blade, works so much easier making the plastic template back
Scuff the plastic backing before applying the sticker, it comes shiny and smooth
I bought a heat gun and found out quickly the plastic back can warp easily so be careful when heating it
Still heat it though and hold for a good 30-60 seconds after
Leave a small gap around around the sticky tape after applying to the back, if you try to cut it perfect you land up with a bare edge
Install the plastic back first to the phone, leave it for a day if you can. If it pops up, heat the hell out of it and hold as strongly as you can for a minute or so ( I wore gloves)
Heat again after applying the leather back, heat really helps the application stick
If you buy the regular leather be aware it's not treated with any water resistance or proofing and any water will mark it.
If you are buying the Factory Second versions buy a couple, they are only $10 each and $2 shipping total.
The bump near the camera is from the metal plate I installed for my car mount, I couldn't fully conceal it.
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Is it a formed vinyl patterned or really leather? footballs are supposed to be made of pig leather right?
I'd like to see ostrich
LOL haven't seen Ostrich yet. It's definitely textured bovine leather not plastic and looks like it is treated as I haven't had any water stains yet.
Forgot to ask, when you said your first attempt had he edges raising, were you referring to the plastic or the leather?
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No matter how nice it looks, it's certainly not worth scratching the screen for.
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I agree. Even the slightest hint of a scratch and I would lose a bunch of sleep. But unlike you, I use a glass protector which feels like the phone screen.
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Forgot to ask, when you said your first attempt had he edges raising, were you referring to the plastic or the leather?
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Both but most of it was the plastic peeling off of the back of the phone. It was applied twice though and I'm certain that impacted the adhesion.
My Nexus with Cork back from Slickwraps.
http://kryon.smugmug.com/Purenexus/i-bRKJdsk/0/O/OPERATIONPNbanner5x1.png
Has anyone installed this without the replacement back? and if so can I get a pic?
How is the cork back holding out for you. Can you post any pics after wear and tear.
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I am at work so I can't post pics but I made the jump and got one a couple weeks ago. I like the way it looks but if you tend to work on cars or have dirty hands from working, this is not for you. My cork back is filthy but not too noticeable unless you've seen it beforehand.
I'm diggin' the cork look!
Hi,
Unfortunately ceramic version also get scratches. After over year of using I've got some really ugly, big scratches on ceramic back.
I wonder if it is possible to polish back surface? Does anyone tried?
I have some experience with polishing car parts, but it's totally different item.
How do you think? Is is possible to polish ceramic? Or maybe I will get only worse...
Hello . Tbh I'm not sure what I would do. As it is a phone. How ever! It is possible to get scratches out of ceramic.
Take the back of (if you can)
mark with chalk all the scratches easy to wipe off.
get a bowl or something filled with nice hot water not to hot though you got a stick you hand in. Make it warm. Shuv some dishwasher liquid in. Good quality. Like fairy liquid or something.
CLEAN THEM SCRATCHES!
then wipe up the scratches and dry up with a clean cloth. One that doesn't leave bobbles or rubbish.
Put a small bit of brass polisher on a clean, soft cloth. Apparently tooth paste or vinagre works, but not tried it. Rub the product into the scratches and all the edges, like your wax a car. Circle Circle circles keep doing it. Eventually the scratches should no longer be visible.
you can stop there although when I did my bathroom tiles I used some car wax just to protect the areas.
I hope this helps. . Don't run at me with knives and lemons if it ruins your phone please xD this works on real ceramic....
Hope I assisted .
Mine with more or less one year old have no scratches in ceramic, only on the aluminium(?) edge and some light scratches in front glass. I have used it almost all time withou a case. !!!!
so, i have the unicorn beetle case for my S9 (and my fiancee's S9 as well) and this oil slick thing happened between the plastic of the screen protector and the phone screen. Ive cleaned the inside with windex, professional strength spray foaming g;ass cleaner, 98% isopropyl rubbing alcohol, dawn dish soap and warm water, dawn and cold water etc etc etc, ive even used a hair dryer to get it fairly warm and to allow the air to help move any water molecules from any pits in the plastic. In short, ive done a ton to this [email protected] thing and it persists. My fiancees case is fine and the older kiddos case for the A8 he inherited from me is the same brand and a year older than my case and has zero problems. I work in an office and dont get the phone near grease ever, so im baffled about where the oily stuff is coming from.
Looks like to me that it is moisture, maybe heat from the phone, humidity etc.
That is definitely moisture under the screen protector. If you already cleaned it and it came back, you will need to get new screen protector because this one has opening for water to enter and that can't be fixed
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Looks like to me that it is moisture, maybe heat from the phone, humidity etc.
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That is definitely moisture under the screen protector. If you already cleaned it and it came back, you will need to get new screen protector because this one has opening for water to enter and that can't be fixed
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thanks guys. this was my first plastic film style case with built in screen protector thingy. Wasnt a fan at first, got used to it and then this happened. Ive since order ed a new case, which obviously fixed the issue. The case is fairly cheap, its just a shame the plastic part only lasted that long. Thanks for the replies guys, the accessories area of a phones forum is usually a wasteland lol
I have been using one for the past 6 months on my Galaxy S9 and I've had no such issues. The only times this would happen was when I would wipe the screen with alcohol and a portion would get into the sides at the top.
The only reason that would happen is you got the phone wet at some point and the water found its way through the cut-outs. Of course, with no way to evaporate, it's probably going to stay there unless you remove the plastic cover clean it, dry it then return it.