After trying to root my tablet with ZenFoneRoot, my Tablet went into Demo mode and I couldn't use it at all. I tried flashing with the classic ASUS method (putting the firmware on the SD and updating) but after the update completed, demo mode was still there. So I went into fastboot mode and did a "fastboot wipe system", realising after that I can flash everything except for the system/ directory, which was not a .img file (duh, silly me).
If I select recovery from DroidBoot, I get a message saying "Installing system update" followed by "Error" and that's it... no recovery menu, no nothing.
What should I do to recover my tablet?
Here are the contents of my update zip file from ASUS.
http ://i.imgur.com/LT5SDMj.png
After some research I flashed the WW_MeMo_Pad-11.2.3.17.3-2014100 droidboot (fastboot.img), boot and splashimage and now I can:
fastboot -w -i 0x0b05 flash update UL-K017-WW-11.2.3.21-user.zip
But I get the following error
E: unable to rename file /cache/update.zip: Cross-device link
Tried doing a
fastboot erase cache
without any luck...
Do you guys have any ideas?
Also tried creating a yaffs2 image using "mkyaffs2 system/" but I get a zlink: Invalid Arguments error
A few days later, I contacted Asus, explained the problem and they asked me to send my tablet somewhere out of town and I have to pay for the service (which I think will cost me 50% of the tablet's value). Well this didn't help at all.
I even tried writing a bash script that would fastboot flash system/path for every file in the system directory (yes, flashing ~1000 files took me 30 minutes). But the tablet won't start, even though the files are there and I wiped the system & cache partition before. I still don't understand how the recovery option works or why "wipe data" gives me an error. All I need is a valid system.img file, that's all.
From my research, I'm starting to think that the .zips are signed with SignAPK.
Sorry for asking this question, over and over again. I just want to share my progress with this, seeing that there are some posts without replys regarding this product and with the same problem).
What if I compile Android, copy the libs/ and etc/ directories and flash the resulting system.img (will try this tomorrow).
Thank you!
AndroidDestoryer said:
After trying to root my tablet with ZenFoneRoot, my Tablet went into Demo mode and I couldn't use it at all. I tried flashing with the classic ASUS method (putting the firmware on the SD and updating) but after the update completed, demo mode was still there. So I went into fastboot mode and did a "fastboot wipe system", realising after that I can flash everything except for the system/ directory, which was not a .img file (duh, silly me).
If I select recovery from DroidBoot, I get a message saying "Installing system update" followed by "Error" and that's it... no recovery menu, no nothing.
What should I do to recover my tablet?
Here are the contents of my update zip file from ASUS.
http ://i.imgur.com/LT5SDMj.png
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I am having the same problem .I cannot get into recovery mode,as u explained in above. i think RootZenFone app only works for android:4.3
Thanks for sharing
Same boat here
I tried rooting my ME70C/K01A with RootZenFone-1.4.5r.apk.
Unfortunately I tried it after the 4.4.2 update and now I seem to be stuck in some sort of demo mode. There's a blue icon in the notification bar and I occasionally get a pop-up dialog saying that demo mode has stopped.
I purchased it just this week so I'm thinking back to the store it goes. Maybe I'll just stay with my Motorola Xoom..
bob
Well what I did since the last time I posted was:
- I successfully created a system.img image (using the tools in ADK) that I can flash into my MeMo pad, but the tablet doesn't boot even tough it was a successful flash Anddddd... I'm stuck at this point. Any more ideas?
To remove the offline demo in the notification in ME70C
To remove the offline demo in the notification
1. Enable developer mode in tab.
2. Download APD_offline_ME70C.zip and follow the step mentioned in contentupdateSOP0624.pdf.Once you go thought all the step mentioned .Tab will start playing the demo. (Note:-it will to update around 4-5mins, you check in notification bar)
3. Now need to deactivate the demo mode.
When the demo video playing on screen
Hold Back Key for more than 10 seconds, until is shows a page to key in password 741603.
The tab will automatically reboot and wipe all user data and deactivate demo mode.
Wait until factory reset complete. Once everything is finished tab will boot up with welcome screen
In this process the tab will be factory reset .So backup the data
I found the APD file and contenASUS website
Successfully rooted Asus Memo Pad(Me70c)K01A
1. Go to setting- Developer Option and enable USB Debugging.
2. Wi-Fi and forget network (if had connected access point).
3. Disable Wi-Fi and put the tab in Airplane mode.
4. Download and install RootZenFone-1.4.6r.apk
5. Then run the app. Below press the button “ok I know, please root!” . A warning will pop up just press ”OK”. It may take around 2-3 mins to finish; mean time will show message that demo mode active.
6. Check the notification bar there should be brown the update finish.
7. Power off the tab and boot to boot-loader and then select recovery.
8. The tab will restart to recovery and automatically make system update and gives an error and reboot the tab.
Now there must be SuperSU installed in app list. Then just update the SuperSU app from the play store.
Tested on
Model Number
K01A
Android version
4.4.2
Kernel version
3.10.20 [email protected] # 1TueNov 11 14:34:52CST 2014
Build number
KVT49L.WW_MeMO_Pad-11.2.3.21-20141111 release-keys 044000281_201406160030
Credit : shakalaca
dashu42332 said:
1. Go to setting- Developer Option and enable USB Debugging.
2. Wi-Fi and forget network (if had connected access point).
3. Disable Wi-Fi and put the tab in Airplane mode.
4. Download and install RootZenFone-1.4.6r.apk
5. Then run the app. Below press the button “ok I know, please root!” . A warning will pop up just press ”OK”. It may take around 2-3 mins to finish; mean time will show message that demo mode active.
6. Check the notification bar there should be brown the update finish.
7. Power off the tab and boot to boot-loader and then select recovery.
8. The tab will restart to recovery and automatically make system update and gives an error and reboot the tab.
Now there must be SuperSU installed in app list. Then just update the SuperSU app from the play store.
Tested on
Model Number
K01A
Android version
4.4.2
Kernel version
3.10.20 [email protected] # 1TueNov 11 14:34:52CST 2014
Build number
KVT49L.WW_MeMO_Pad-11.2.3.21-20141111 release-keys 044000281_201406160030
Credit : shakalaca
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Hi I am pretty new with this, in step 7. Power off the tab and boot to boot-loader and then select recovery.<-----How do you boot to bootloader?
el_rolas said:
Hi I am pretty new with this, in step 7. Power off the tab and boot to boot-loader and then select recovery.<-----How do you boot to bootloader?
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I found this thread while looking for a way to unlock the bootloader but I did not do step 7 - I used 1.46r (attached), installed it, forgot network, went to airplane mode, ran Root Zenphone and then rebooted (not to recovery) and I am now rooted with Busybox installed and not in Demo Mode (and didn't have to disable it)
el_rolas said:
Hi I am pretty new with this, in step 7. Power off the tab and boot to boot-loader and then select recovery.<-----How do you boot to bootloader?
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while boot holding down the volume up+ power button till asus logo.Then release button this will land-up in boot-loader,there you can select recovery.It will automatically boot recovery does the remaining things.
Worked great on my
BestBuy, Asus - MeMO Pad 7 - 8GB - Black
Model: ME70C-8G-BK SKU: 8770005
Thank you!
themykel said:
I found this thread while looking for a way to unlock the bootloader but I did not do step 7 - I used 1.46r (attached), installed it, forgot network, went to airplane mode, ran Root Zenphone and then rebooted (not to recovery) and I am now rooted with Busybox installed and not in Demo Mode (and didn't have to disable it)
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Work perfectly
version KVT49L_WW_MeMO_Pad-11.2.3.27-20141223 release-keys 044000281_201406160030 (vary strange that this version is not presente in Asus site...)
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dashu42332 said:
To remove the offline demo in the notification
1. Enable developer mode in tab.
2. Download and follow the step mentioned in .Once you go thought all the step mentioned .Tab will start playing the demo. (Note:-it will to update around 4-5mins, you check in notification bar)
3. Now need to deactivate the demo mode.
When the demo video playing on screen
Hold Back Key for more than 10 seconds, until is shows a page to key in password 741603.
The tab will automatically reboot and wipe all user data and deactivate demo mode.
Wait until factory reset complete. Once everything is finished tab will boot up with welcome screen
In this process the tab will be factory reset .So backup the data
I found the APD file and contenASUS website
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Hi I have the same issue, but I have no success with "Hold Back Key", when video is playing his entering after few seconds in full screen and back key from the screen dissapear. Please can you help me with that. Thanks!
Chk out this video .This will help out deactivation of demo mode http://youtu.be/vptHAKTvoyw ...
If still don't work ,better to factory reset and try the step from the beginning
I cannot get into Recovery Mode. I boot into Fastboot, select Recovery mode, unit reboots, see the ASUS logo and then it hangs and eventually goes to a blank screen. Almost like the recovery partition is empty.
I was trying to restore my tablet back to a fresh install so I ran (in fastboot mode):
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase cache
How can I get stock recovery back? All I can do it get into fastboot mode. Unit has no OS on it now since I wiped the system partition.
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LG Escape running 4.1.2
here is the progression of events:
1. rooted device
2. root seemed successful and no malfunctions
3. backed up all apps and system data with Titanium backup
4. the lg escape has no way to unlock the bootloader, so I tried various other methods. one of which was entering recovery mode via terminal commands. this is basically a hard reset, and it wiped all my data
5. I restored all my apps and data from my external sd card with titanium
My best guess is this is where something went wrong
6. upon restoration it prompted me to reboot the device
7. reboot passes manufacturer logo, but resets when AT$T logo appears
8. as stated earlier, there is no way to enter recovery mode during boot.
9. there is a hard reset during boot, but mine will not work, as it requires touching buttons which do not seem to be active in my stage of the boot sequence
so, I understand this does NOT mean my phone is bricked, but I don't know how else to get it to boot back up, or what is even causing the boot loop, as I DO NOT HAVE ANY CUSTOM ROMS flashed. any help here is very appreciated!
EDIT: so I have attempted to use adb on my pc to reboot into recovery from there, but it occurred to me that while I was in recovery the first time, I never checked "usb debugging". as a result my adb console commands cant even see my device. any way to turn on usb debugging while locked in a boot loop?
also, I can get it to enter download mode. I was hoping I could just reflash the firmware to it without needing to enable usb debugging, but have no clue how to do that while locked out of the phone.
I realize this is a very specialized set of questions, but it is necessary to ask here as the most people will see it. im open to any ideas
whitechameleon said:
LG Escape running 4.1.2
here is the progression of events:
1. rooted device
2. root seemed successful and no malfunctions
3. backed up all apps and system data with Titanium backup
4. the lg escape has no way to unlock the bootloader, so I tried various other methods. one of which was entering recovery mode via terminal commands. this is basically a hard reset, and it wiped all my data
5. I restored all my apps and data from my external sd card with titanium
My best guess is this is where something went wrong
6. upon restoration it prompted me to reboot the device
7. reboot passes manufacturer logo, but resets when AT$T logo appears
8. as stated earlier, there is no way to enter recovery mode during boot.
9. there is a hard reset during boot, but mine will not work, as it requires touching buttons which do not seem to be active in my stage of the boot sequence
so, I understand this does NOT mean my phone is bricked, but I don't know how else to get it to boot back up, or what is even causing the boot loop, as I DO NOT HAVE ANY CUSTOM ROMS flashed. any help here is very appreciated!
EDIT: so I have attempted to use adb on my pc to reboot into recovery from there, but it occurred to me that while I was in recovery the first time, I never checked "usb debugging". as a result my adb console commands cant even see my device. any way to turn on usb debugging while locked in a boot loop?
also, I can get it to enter download mode. I was hoping I could just reflash the firmware to it without needing to enable usb debugging, but have no clue how to do that while locked out of the phone.
I realize this is a very specialized set of questions, but it is necessary to ask here as the most people will see it. im open to any ideas
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i have now tried to flash the firmware while in download mode using a less than legitimately obtained lg R&D tool. however, i need V10F_00.kdz and i am facing a bit of censorship. any kind soul willing to host this file on dropbox or similar so i can download it?
Usually devices have a button combination to press when powering on to get into different modes. Maybe try searching for the button combination of your phone on Google? Try ' lg escape button recovery ' ?
J2270A said:
Usually devices have a button combination to press when powering on to get into different modes. Maybe try searching for the button combination of your phone on Google? Try ' lg escape button recovery ' ?
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believe me i have. the only combo i can get to is download mode. there is a combo for a hard reset, but my touch buttons arent active during boot.
Hi, all
I was running kitkat on my tablet so I decided to flash with CM13 custom rom I used DP TOOLS to rooted my tablet after that I used Flashify to installed TWRP at that point everything were nice and happy, then I installed gapps-600-base-20151112-1-signed.zip, cm-13.0-20160604-NIGHTLY-v410.zip, BETA-SuperSU-v2.74-2-20160519174328.zip using TWRP at that point everything installed without any error, I rebooted the tablet and now its stuck to LG logo with "error boot certification verify" after pressing power and volume up button I was able to get in download mode, but DP tools doesn't recognized tablet using my PC so I'm wondering how to installed rom back again since I cant get TWRP to load and why am I get this "error boot certification verify" anyway. Any help will be very helpful. Thanks
i fixed it using these steps, Thanks
1. You will need the Stock Rooted ROM: [ROM][STOCK](V410 ONLY)KOT49I.V4101d | 4.4.2… | LG G Pad 10.1 | XDA Forums
2. Stock Recovery Image: https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...int=file,img
[OPTIONAL]
- I downloaded the USB Driver suite so I can make sure it all connects and works, this really is optional, but I would HIGHLY suggest it!
LG Software & Firmware | LG U.S.A
- I also download this nifty tool called DP Tools by danielpinto8zz6 over at XDA. This just made it a lot easier to reboot to recovery and all that fun stuff.
[Tool][Win] DP TOOLS - Manage your LG device | LG G Pad 10.1 | XDA Forums
[MANUAL RECOVERY]
If you do not want to install the drivers and DP Tools, you can reboot to recovery using the following method:
1. Power OFF your device and unplug from USB
2. Press Vol-Down + Power and HOLD until you see the LG Logo (will only take a couple seconds)
3. Let go of the POWER button ONLY
4. Keep holding the Vol-Down, then also press Power + Vol-Up (so you should now be holding ALL 3 BUTTONS)
5. Wait for recovery mode to start and you can let go of the buttons
[THE PROCESS]
1. Copy the ROM and Recovery Image to to SD Card or Internal Storage of your device
2. Reboot to Recovery
3. Wipe, Wipe, Wipe
4. Flash the Stock Rooted ROM
5. Reboot and set up your device far enough for you to get into the Play Store and download an App
6. Download Flashify: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...llner.flashify
7. Launch the app and flash your stock recovery
8. DO NOT REBOOT YET (however, if you do reboot, it's really not an issue)
9. Open the Super User app that is already installed
10. Go into Settings and then find the In-Root (Uninstall) option and you will get a warning that Root will be removed
11. Complete the instructions on the screen and you are now back to stock
[TROUBLESHOOTING]
- If SU will not uninstall and just hangs, restart the device and try again
- If the ROM starts acting strange, Factory Restore (this did not happen to me, but happened to a friends and reset fixed it all)
Please let me know if anyone has any questions!!
Thanks!
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zfk110 said:
Hi, all
I was running kitkat on my tablet so I decided to flash with CM13 custom rom I used DP TOOLS to rooted my tablet after that I used Flashify to installed TWRP at that point everything were nice and happy, then I installed gapps-600-base-20151112-1-signed.zip, cm-13.0-20160604-NIGHTLY-v410.zip, BETA-SuperSU-v2.74-2-20160519174328.zip using TWRP at that point everything installed without any error, I rebooted the tablet and now its stuck to LG logo with "error boot certification verify" after pressing power and volume up button I was able to get in download mode, but DP tools doesn't recognized tablet using my PC so I'm wondering how to installed rom back again since I cant get TWRP to load and why am I get this "error boot certification verify" anyway. Any help will be very helpful. Thanks
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just flash ur stock rom
Hello
Yesterday i have recieved the Pepsi (Koobee) P1S. it was full of bloatware so i decided to flash a modded rom. After i realized that this custom rom is only in english and chinese (Im German) i wanted to switch back to the original. But then i made the biggest mistake: I have flashed the false rom (CM for Mt6592 CPU but false Smartphone). After that i have flashed the right original rom again. but a strange Error appears: the Phone boot up normaly and then freeze and reboot by itself..over and over again. But not at the same step. Sometimes it freeze during the Bootanimation..sometimes it boot up completly and i can swipe through the Screens (for about 10 sec). When i push the standby button (Display went off) the Phone stays in this mode and dont freeze.
the i flashed TWRP and try to wipe the phone. Even in TWRP it freeze, but not during the wipes or in the Boot Mode slelect screen.
I Have a friend with the same phone. Is it possible to copy a complete backup (eMMC etc) to my phone? Or someone had a Idea what i can try next? I have flashed different roms (for this phone) so many times, but the error is still there.
Please help me.. It should be a present for my GF birthday today
SOLUTION
I downloaded the flashtool that flashes MTK Devices then searched google for Pepsi p1s needrom and downloaded the original firmware scatter file, turn off the P1S unplug it from USB,...Start the flashtool, and search the firmware will be second search bar select search and browse your computer for the firmware you downloaded from needrom, then you will see it load all the files.....there is a button bar that has an arrow open the arrow and select firmware update, then hit the green go button after you hit the green go button plug in your powered off PEPSI P1S ....it will give you a red bar on the flashtool at bottom first, then it will format your device properly, then install all the necissary files, its real quick about 3 minutes, after a box will pop up on the screen and say OK with a big check mark, at this point you can unplug your phone, power it up and wait about 3 minutes, everything will be normal again. So sorry I would post the links however I forgot my password and username that I was using for many years and forgot my recovery email as well.....so if you google it you can find the stuff, just hope I helped with the proper method of flashing......good luck, let me know how it goes.
Thanks but i know how to flash the firmware with SP Flash Tool. i have flashed the P1S with 3 different roms..but always the same error (freeze and reboot at different points)
Are you using download mode? Or firmware update? The reason I ask is download mode always gave me a bootloop, but when switched to firmware update mode it formats the device correctly and fixes the file structure, try firmware update mode.
Im using "Format All + Download"
Try using firmware update mode, let me know what happens.
same problem...freeze (at different points) ans reboot.
here you can see what happen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1oFkgUwtOo
try this! P1
power off
then hold power button + volume down
the boot mode will appear
select recovery
it will show you no command
then pres power button first and the press volume up
now you device is on recovery
then select
wipe data/factory reset.
Blueray88 said:
Hello
Yesterday i have recieved the Pepsi (Koobee) P1S. it was full of bloatware so i decided to flash a modded rom. After i realized that this custom rom is only in english and chinese (Im German) i wanted to switch back to the original. But then i made the biggest mistake: I have flashed the false rom (CM for Mt6592 CPU but false Smartphone). After that i have flashed the right original rom again. but a strange Error appears: the Phone boot up normaly and then freeze and reboot by itself..over and over again. But not at the same step. Sometimes it freeze during the Bootanimation..sometimes it boot up completly and i can swipe through the Screens (for about 10 sec). When i push the standby button (Display went off) the Phone stays in this mode and dont freeze.
the i flashed TWRP and try to wipe the phone. Even in TWRP it freeze, but not during the wipes or in the Boot Mode slelect screen.
I Have a friend with the same phone. Is it possible to copy a complete backup (eMMC etc) to my phone? Or someone had a Idea what i can try next? I have flashed different roms (for this phone) so many times, but the error is still there.
Please help me.. It should be a present for my GF birthday today
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I have noted one thing.
when I update supersu to play store and reboot it goes in bootloop.
so I recommend not to upgrade or even to make unroot just after removing apps with viruses
Afternoon
I have a Lenovo 7" tablet which is sticking on boot...to describe:
tablet off, charge screen working fine (green battery)
can get into menu to select fastboot mode or recovery
fastboot works, at least screen appears!
recovery shows dead android/no command screen - how to access recovery?
booting up, get inital orange logo then a 'bing' and start of boot but then freezes on the second logo
tablet not visible on PC, even in fastboot mode (have installed drivers)
I'm looking to get this going but am a bit stumped. I tried reinstalling firmware but can't get SPF Tools to work with any available scatter files; I would like to install TWRP (I found a potential image file on XDA) but can't do this until the PC recognises it....and I'm going round in circles now....any suggestions gratefully received. :good:
Update
OK, post was maybe a bit premature - I've kinda fixed my issues.
Managed to get into recovery after watching many videos (most of which were wrong, but hey-ho, got me on the right path!). At dead android screen, press and hold in power + vol up + vol down together (there is a bit of knack, turn it on its side with buttons facing up seems to be easiest) - this fires up the recovery screen (android standard recovery).
I managed to get over my bootloop issue by performing a data wipe/factory reset and cache wipe, then restarted fine.
As this was a secondhand tablet (my usual purchases - good condition bootloops!) - once it booted up I got into the set-up screens only to discover a Google lock issue. I ran the FRP unlock from here: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=11050483647474832839 using the instructions from here: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f958/lenovo-tab-4-7-essential-tb4-7304f-frp-remove-2322527/ (Voltrans second post, not the original one which has a 404 error on the download site). This removed the FRP lock straight off and now I have a functioning tablet.
I'm probably going to try getting custom recovery on so will see how that goes - I'll post back
and...that's all folks....
OK, despite finding a TWRP recovery online https://twrpbuilder.github.io/downloads/twrp/#441 and downloading it, can I get the fastboot unlocked? no.
Apparently Lenovo locked them all up and threw away the key, so nothing more can be done here.
I tried various iterations of fastboot oem unlock and fastboot flashing unlock, and nothing works, just get an error - and yes, I did put developer options on, OEM unlocking ticked and USB debugging active.... :silly:
So, unless someone can point me in a direction on how to unlock it - I've reached the end of the road with this one
Hello everyone,
I’m actually not an android developer but managed to maneuver myself in a quite tricky situation. I think I need some help from someone how has deep insights in the that topic.
Right now, I’ve got the problem that only TWRP would start if I press the power button of my Ulefone Armor 6. The Stock ROM won’t. My original goal was to restore pictures I deleted by using a recovery tool on my pc. For that reason, I tried to root the phone by using TWRP and Magisk. I performed the following steps:
- Unlocked the bootloader in the developer options and by using the command “fastboot oem unlock” on my pc.
- Installed TWRP 3.3.1 for my Phone by using the command “fastboot flash twrp.img”
- Rebooted the system in recovery mode. TWRP was installed and asking for a PW. Decryption didn’t work with the set PIN. I couldn’t find any files (installation file ) in the filesystem after clicking “Install”
- Restarted the phone in “normal mode”. The system was now in factory settings without performing anything like this on purpose. I couldn’t find any files like pictures. I thought: ****, I ****ed up! I made my situation even worse than before…
- Every time I booted the stock ROM, TWRP was gone afterwords. I could only open the stock recovery. For that reason, I installed TWRP a couple of times. When y restarted in recovery mode directly after installing TWRP it stayed.
- Then I removed the PIN in Android without any result. TWRP was still asking for a PW.
- I pressed Wipe and Format Data in TWRP. After that the PW request was gone.
- I installed Magisk V20.4 from my SD-Card by using the install button in TWRP. No error occurred.
- After rebooting, a pop up from TWRP appeared with something like: “corrupt data: you need to perform a factory reset” without any other options. So I did it.
- On the next normal reboot, no android appeared, but only TWRP by asking for a pw again.
- I pressed format data again. TWRP was not asking for the PW again.
- Now I did a backup with TWRP for the first time…
The current state is:
When I press the power button only TWRP starts. I can also use the fastboot mode. But I can not switch off the phone by pressing the power button or using the Power off command in TWRP. It will always restart.
Now my first goal is to restore a many files as I can by using any rooted ROM. Later I would like install the stock ROM again. In the process I would like not to brick my phone which is actually the one of my girlfriend… So please, what can I do?
Many thank for reading everything and for the help
If someone needs the logfile from TWRP, I can send it via PM I guess.
yo...
if your fone is like mine, and you cant take the battery out, you cant power off. you need to have the usb lead out of your machine in order to shut down, and that's in the os, if usb is plugged in, fone will reboot. By pressing power off switch, you only reset, because you are not in the os which has the turn off function. Hope this makes sense