About 3 weeks ago, I purchased a Gear S while on a trip to Scottsdale AZ. I had the Gear unlocked in anticipation that my Canadian Carrier, Rogers, would soon get the watch and I could purchase a SIM from them.
Well, today I found someone who knows a bit about the situation and they explained that Samsung has told the carriers that they must have some backend infrastructure to support the gear. Currrently Samsung is supporting all remote functions but has told all carriers they must have their own infrastructure ready by January 2015. It appears the CDN carriers figure they can't make any money if they also need to own the backend so they are refusing to carry the watch. Isn't that just typical of the BIG 3 Carriers. They make so much money with their ability to run themselfs as a monopoly by being in bed with each other and now they won't carry the watch because they would actually have to put out some capital $'s first! I sure wish Verizon would have some to Canada!
Sword Fish said:
About 3 weeks ago, I purchased a Gear S while on a trip to Scottsdale AZ. I had the Gear unlocked in anticipation that my Canadian Carrier, Rogers, would soon get the watch and I could purchase a SIM from them.
Well, today I found someone who knows a bit about the situation and they explained that Samsung has told the carriers that they must have some backend infrastructure to support the gear. Currrently Samsung is supporting all remote functions but has told all carriers they must have their own infrastructure ready by January 2015. It appears the CDN carriers figure they can't make any money if they also need to own the backend so they are refusing to carry the watch. Isn't that just typical of the BIG 3 Carriers. They make so much money with their ability to run themselfs as a monopoly by being in bed with each other and now they won't carry the watch because they would actually have to put out some capital $'s first! I sure wish Verizon would have some to Canada!
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That is not good news! I'm expecting the Gear S to arrive today and I was planning on stopping by the Rogers store to get a data sim card to use with the watch. So, sounds like this idea isn't going to work? I may just turn around and return the Gear S?
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That is not good news! I'm expecting the Gear S to arrive today and I was planning on stopping by the Rogers store to get a data sim card to use with the watch. So, sounds like this idea isn't going to work? I may just turn around and return the Gear S?
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I've been to a lot of stores over the last few weeks and most staff don't even know what the watch is. When I show them mine, they still tell me it hasn't been released yet??? I talked to manager at a store in Calgary earlier today and he was the one who told me the story above...
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I've been to a lot of stores over the last few weeks and most staff don't even know what the watch is. When I show them mine, they still tell me it hasn't been released yet??? I talked to manager at a store in Calgary earlier today and he was the one who told me the story above...
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So, if I picked up a "rocket stick" and put the sim into the watch it wouldn't work? The sim would have a phone number associated with it and I'm assuming the call forwarding is being controlled by the app on the Note 4?
I took my SIM out of my Note 3 (Koodo) just yesterday to try it out. (futureshop gear S)
The watch input all the correct APN info without a hitch
Here's what I have discovered since then.
Phone: Works. However contact list imported from phone has skewed some of the contacts slightly. - still need to sort that out
Internet : Opera browser Works
Text Messages: once a conversation is built inbound only then can I respond to texts. I cannot compose a message at all
Email: same as text messages
Notifications: Works well
whats the best and cheapest way to have the gear s working like it does in the states?
Do i have to get a whole new sim card with data and voice plan?
jsnali13 said:
whats the best and cheapest way to have the gear s working like it does in the states?
Do i have to get a whole new sim card with data and voice plan?
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I returned my Gear S because we (Canada) do not have a system set up by the carriers to utilize all of the Gear S features. I'm on Rogers and they do not support any sort of conditional call forwarding. If you have voice mail, any call forwarding will not work - Not sure why we can't have v-mail and conditional call forwarding?
Anyways, I did try a $15 pre-paid plan with Koodo. Work well as long as the watch was connected to phone via BT. Was completely useless as a standalone since no call forwarding (I did not want to give out watch number).
Unless we have a better solution, this is a very expensive product that cannot be utilized to its full potential.
If anyone has been able to set their Gear S up differently to work as per US - please provide info.
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I returned my Gear S because we (Canada) do not have a system set up by the carriers to utilize all of the Gear S features. I'm on Rogers and they do not support any sort of conditional call forwarding. If you have voice mail, any call forwarding will not work - Not sure why we can't have v-mail and conditional call forwarding?
Anyways, I did try a $15 pre-paid plan with Koodo. Work well as long as the watch was connected to phone via BT. Was completely useless as a standalone since no call forwarding (I did not want to give out watch number).
Unless we have a better solution, this is a very expensive product that cannot be utilized to its full potential.
If anyone has been able to set their Gear S up differently to work as per US - please provide info.
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isnt the call forwarding set up through Gear Manager?
I know i use to forward my cell number to my work line with no issues using the phone call settings. never had an issue because i had voice mail.
I cant see all these companies in the states setting up a different infrastructure just for this watch.
i have 14 days to play with this watch so might just get a sim with data and voice and try it out. i'm on telus so hopefully its just something with rogers that sucks.
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isnt the call forwarding set up through Gear Manager?
I know i use to forward my cell number to my work line with no issues using the phone call settings. never had an issue because i had voice mail.
I cant see all these companies in the states setting up a different infrastructure just for this watch.
i have 14 days to play with this watch so might just get a sim with data and voice and try it out. i'm on telus so hopefully its just something with rogers that sucks.
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Yes, call forwarding can be set through Gear manager, but your network needs to support it. From what I've found out, non of the providers support conditional forwarding, and non-conditional forwarding does not work when v-mail is active. Let us know how you make out...
Eh, I have a question, what exactly do you mean by conditional and non-conditional forwarding ?
I will soon be with the Bell network and would like to know this as I just got a gear s today.
Isn't call forward a simple thing ? I don't particularly care for vmail as I don't plan to be away from phone that long anyway.
Just curious of the situation.
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Eh, I have a question, what exactly do you mean by conditional and non-conditional forwarding ?
I will soon be with the Bell network and would like to know this as I just got a gear s today.
Isn't call forward a simple thing ? I don't particularly care for vmail as I don't plan to be away from phone that long anyway.
Just curious of the situation.
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Forwarding - Always forward
Conditional - Forward when busy; or Forward when unanswered; or Forward when unreachable
So i got a pre-paid sim yesterday from Telus. My phone is with telus and i do have call forwarding on my plan. The watch works fine. I only have pre-paid data and text so i only get texts forwarded to the watch right now, but call forwarding goes straight to my voicemail on the pre-paid card.
I was reading something on another post about CDMA carriers vs. GSM carriers but can find the post again. Maybe thats why rogers has issues?
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Forwarding - Always forward
Conditional - Forward when busy; or Forward when unanswered; or Forward when unreachable
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I have the Gear S set up with a Telus pre-paid SIM. My Note 2 is on Bell. Call forwarding works fine; when the Gear S disconnects from the BT connection with the phone, it prompts the phone (through Gear Manager) to turn on call forwarding to the Gear S after a delay of 60 seconds (to allow for temporary, intermittent disconnections). One thing I discovered on another forum, is that you must have mobile data enabled on the Gear S (something I didn't want to do, as it is crazy expensive on the basic prepaid SIM), as it appears the Gear S uses this to prompt the call forwarding (I don't know why Gear Manager couldn't do it on its own). In any event, it turn out to cost less than 10 cents every time the Gear S does this, so so far not an issue, and I have full functionality. I suspect however that this might be the back end function Samsung is looking to unload if the OP is correct - but again, it is a mystery to me why this back end function is even necessary if that's the case.
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jsnali13 said:
whats the best and cheapest way to have the gear s working like it does in the states?
Do i have to get a whole new sim card with data and voice plan?
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The Telus pre-paid SIM I got was the cheapest option I have found so far - and my phone is on Bell. I pre-loaded it with $100 (as this is good for a year, rather than lesser amounts that expire after 30 days) and added a text message add-on for $5 a month (which is deducted from your pre-paid balance). The add-on gives me 250 text messages a month, and drops the cost of calls to 15 cents a minute. So, for less than $10/month, I have full functionality that should cover the amount of use I expect on mobile (i.e., off BT) with the Gear S. Also, I'm told that if I top up again at the end of the year, any remaining balance carries over. Thought this was the best was to go for now unless/until Bell comes out with a shareable option for my current plan, similar to what the carriers in the States are offering for the Gear S.
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The Telus pre-paid SIM I got was the cheapest option I have found so far - and my phone is on Bell. I pre-loaded it with $100 (as this is good for a year, rather than lesser amounts that expire after 30 days) and added a text message add-on for $5 a month (which is deducted from your pre-paid balance). The add-on gives me 250 text messages a month, and drops the cost of calls to 15 cents a minute. So, for less than $10/month, I have full functionality that should cover the amount of use I expect on mobile (i.e., off BT) with the Gear S. Also, I'm told that if I top up again at the end of the year, any remaining balance carries over. Thought this was the best was to go for now unless/until Bell comes out with a shareable option for my current plan, similar to what the carriers in the States are offering for the Gear S.[/QUOTE]
Did you go into a telus store to find out about the $100 for the year deal? i dont see it on telus.com
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I have the Gear S set up with a Telus pre-paid SIM. My Note 2 is on Bell. Call forwarding works fine; when the Gear S disconnects from the BT connection with the phone, it prompts the phone (through Gear Manager) to turn on call forwarding to the Gear S after a delay of 60 seconds (to allow for temporary, intermittent disconnections). One thing I discovered on another forum, is that you must have mobile data enabled on the Gear S (something I didn't want to do, as it is crazy expensive on the basic prepaid SIM), as it appears the Gear S uses this to prompt the call forwarding (I don't know why Gear Manager couldn't do it on its own). In any event, it turn out to cost less than 10 cents every time the Gear S does this, so so far not an issue, and I have full functionality. I suspect however that this might be the back end function Samsung is looking to unload if the OP is correct - but again, it is a mystery to me why this back end function is even necessary if that's the case.
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The Telus pre-paid SIM I got was the cheapest option I have found so far - and my phone is on Bell. I pre-loaded it with $100 (as this is good for a year, rather than lesser amounts that expire after 30 days) and added a text message add-on for $5 a month (which is deducted from your pre-paid balance). The add-on gives me 250 text messages a month, and drops the cost of calls to 15 cents a minute. So, for less than $10/month, I have full functionality that should cover the amount of use I expect on mobile (i.e., off BT) with the Gear S. Also, I'm told that if I top up again at the end of the year, any remaining balance carries over. Thought this was the best was to go for now unless/until Bell comes out with a shareable option for my current plan, similar to what the carriers in the States are offering for the Gear S.
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So your plan is pre-paid voice and data? with the addon of texts? I cant find this option on the telus site. when ever my phone is forwarded to the gear, it goes straight into voicemail of the gear sim. wonder if they will ever fix the forwarding so when not answered on your gear, it will return to your phone's voicemail.
It's a prepaid card, that gives you access to voice and data - not a plan. As both the voice and data rates on a basic prepaid card are expensive - $.50/min for calls, $.30/text, $2/mb data - you need to gauge your usage and add add-ons or a plan accordingly. With the $5 text add-on, as I mentioned, this drops the call rate to $.15/min. You can also add a data add-on, but so far I don't think I will need it (and the cheapest is $10/mo.). You can see the add-ons on the website; the rest is just a basic prepaid SIM, not a plan, which is why you don't see it. They will charge you $10 for the SIM. I went in to a Telus store for all of this.
At least one Canadian carrier is now offering the Gear S - no sign of a special plan for it yet though....
http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Products/Samsung-Gear-S-black-Smartwatch
Edit: Rogers too...
http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wire...294967106+11+4294966826+4294966713+4294940989
I picked up the gear s a few weeks ago from samsung in edmonton.
I didn't bother informing my provider of my intentions. Just switched my microsim for a nano, and was set. Granted it did take a bit of messing aroung in the settings, I've managed to get it working as a standalone and as a companion for my note 4 simultaneously.
All notifications from my phone are forwarded over wifi or 3G while not connected via bluetooth.
Calls are forwarded to the watch, the only hitch so far is that I have to decide before I leave home whether I want the watch to dial out on my phones # or it's own.
Battery life is as expected from 300mah. BT connection, without 3G on yeilds a respectable 1.5-2 days, as a companion. The more you use it...
Having 3G always connected with BT left the gear s limping home @ 14% after 24hrs despite the battery pack boost back to 100% partway through.
Overall, I'm impressed. It's not yet a smartphone on your wrist, but getting close. There are a few annoyances such as the apparent inability to add a contact. As far as i can tell so far at least. Voice to text has worked well so far, and s voice does respond well to simple commands like call, text, play, open, set alarm, etc. It's no goggle now, but it's functioning well on the watch.
I find myself saying "OK gear" and "Hi google"
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I picked up the gear s a few weeks ago from samsung in edmonton.
I didn't bother informing my provider of my intentions. Just switched my microsim for a nano, and was set. Granted it did take a bit of messing aroung in the settings, I've managed to get it working as a standalone and as a companion for my note 4 simultaneously.
All notifications from my phone are forwarded over wifi or 3G while not connected via bluetooth.
Calls are forwarded to the watch, the only hitch so far is that I have to decide before I leave home whether I want the watch to dial out on my phones # or it's own.
Battery life is as expected from 300mah. BT connection, without 3G on yeilds a respectable 1.5-2 days, as a companion. The more you use it...
Having 3G always connected with BT left the gear s limping home @ 14% after 24hrs despite the battery pack boost back to 100% partway through.
Overall, I'm impressed. It's not yet a smartphone on your wrist, but getting close. There are a few annoyances such as the apparent inability to add a contact. As far as i can tell so far at least. Voice to text has worked well so far, and s voice does respond well to simple commands like call, text, play, open, set alarm, etc. It's no goggle now, but it's functioning well on the watch.
I find myself saying "OK gear" and "Hi google"
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Not sure I follow... Do you mean you got another nano SIM for the service you have on your phone, so both your Gear S and your phone are operating on the same service..? I didn't think that was possible - that is, that providers only allow one active SIM per service - or do you mean something else, i.e., that you have only one active SIM, and it is in your Gear?
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Not sure I follow... Do you mean you got another nano SIM for the service you have on your phone, so both your Gear S and your phone are operating on the same service..? I didn't think that was possible - that is, that providers only allow one active SIM per service - or do you mean something else, i.e., that you have only one active SIM, and it is in your Gear?
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Sorry, I completely omitted the fact that I have two active voice plans sharing data. As i did before the gear s.
The Gear works as a standalone with one number, for voice, text and data.
The note 4 has the same_voice, text and data on it's own number.
Two phones as before, but one on my wrist. With call forwarding, and all notifications from the note being sent, the gear s is essentially functioning as both phones.
My pockets seem so empty.
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Sorry, I completely omitted the fact that I have two active voice plans sharing data. As i did before the gear s.
The Gear works as a standalone with one number, for voice, text and data.
The note 4 has the same_voice, text and data on it's own number.
Two phones as before, but one on my wrist. With call forwarding, and all notifications from the note being sent, the gear s is essentially functioning as both phones.
My pockets seem so empty.
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Ah, yes, well, that will certainly work. I was looking for the cheapest possible way to get 3G functionality on the Gear S, at least until the carriers come out with a shareable option similar to that being offered by the U.S. carriers, given that I expect to use the Gear S as a standalone device very rarely (but like having that capability).
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So I've read enough about the GS4 being Sim unlocked from Verizon. We are traveling to St Maarten in the Caribbean in April, and I'm just trying to confirm that its really as simple as purchasing a local sim and popping it in. My GS4 is unlocked and rooted since the MDK bootloader, but my wife's is a work provided phone, and I'm not allowed to touch it (although she always asks me how I tether....sorry dear...I'm not allowed to touch yours). Our resort has wifi but only in the lobby, and I'm not interested in data (I'll be on vaca) but I want to just be able to text my wife if need be while exploring the island.
Anyone know what I can expect to pay for a local sim? Don't even need a lot of minutes....just be able to text back and forth if we need to.
My FIL is on my Verizon plan. He's leaving in a few days for Aruba and Curacao.
He contacted Verizon and was told he could pay $5 for cheaper phone and texting rates while on his trip. I think it is $1.49 or $1.99 per minute for calls and .50 to send text and .05 to receive them.
Data is crazy expensive ($25/100mb with Int'l plan or $22ish per mb without) so I would turn off data sucking apps or seriously limiting it (turn off background sync, etc) even if you opt for the Verizon data plan. Also, if you don't turn off the data before you leave you will most likely get hit with data charges as soon as you land.
I would recommend getting local data sim and using Hangouts or some other non-texting data based chat service instead of texting each other.
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My FIL is on my Verizon plan. He's leaving in a few days for Aruba and Curacao.
He contacted Verizon and was told he could pay $5 for cheaper phone and texting rates while on his trip. I think it is $1.49 or $1.99 per minute for calls and .50 to send text and .05 to receive them.
Data is crazy expensive ($25/100mb with Int'l plan or $22ish per mb without) so I would turn off data sucking apps or seriously limiting it (turn off background sync, etc) even if you opt for the Verizon data plan. Also, if you don't turn off the data before you leave you will most likely get hit with data charges as soon as you land.
I would recommend getting local data sim and using Hangouts or some other non-texting data based chat service instead of texting each other.
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Hangouts I can do....but that uses data. And I'm not going to have wifi on the beach.....MAYBE the beach at our resort....but I've read over and over that wifi is only in the lobby....so who knows where the range will end until I get there. I guess your saying leave data off until I get a local sim in it. Once the local sim is in it, I'll stop getting my verizon data? or will I have to stop gmail, and disable all other data apps?
I know what my phone does, and what apps use what data....and how you can set some up for wifi only....but my wife is clueless tech wise. I guess I'm not going to find a local sim with unlimited texting huh (or even a reasonable number of texts).
Once you replace the Verizon sim (keep it and make sure you know which is yours and which is the wife's because it does matter and you'll be putting them back in as soon as you get home) then your connection to Verizon is gone.
As soon as you install the local sim you will have data and/or phone coverage based on what you bought. If you can get two cheap data only sims that would be the way to go. Then use data services for doing instant messaging to contact each other.
All your data using apps will work just as they did at home. They don't care how you connect to the internet. GMail, Hangouts etc will all work as long as you have a data service.
Enjoy.
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Once you replace the Verizon sim (keep it and make sure you know which is yours and which is the wife's because it does matter and you'll be putting them back in as soon as you get home) then your connection to Verizon is gone.
As soon as you install the local sim you will have data and/or phone coverage based on what you bought. If you can get two cheap data only sims that would be the way to go. Then use data services for doing instant messaging to contact each other.
All your data using apps will work just as they did at home. They don't care how you connect to the internet. GMail, Hangouts etc will all work as long as you have a data service.
Enjoy.
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Ok, I gotcha now. I would love to find a data only Sim. It will be pretty easy to tell which sim is which upon return... I'll just make a test call to see whose phone rings when I dial my number :laugh: Thanks for your help. I don't want to pay Verizon $25 for 100MB as I'm sure some app I forget about will run me over.....and my wife's phone is run by her work....so local sim is the only way to go....or bring her rezound along.....but I'm not sure that phone was ever truly SIM unlocked without a specific Rom...and my rezound hacking days are long behind me.
I came across this site and while it doesn't say how much the sim will cost to purchase, it gives me an idea of the data packages I'll need to buy.
http://wiredsailor.com/new/broadband-internet/3g-services/
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Ok, I gotcha now. I would love to find a data only Sim. It will be pretty easy to tell which sim is which upon return... I'll just make a test call to see whose phone rings when I dial my number :laugh: Thanks for your help. I don't want to pay Verizon $25 for 100MB as I'm sure some app I forget about will run me over.....and my wife's phone is run by her work....so local sim is the only way to go....or bring her rezound along.....but I'm not sure that phone was ever truly SIM unlocked without a specific Rom...and my rezound hacking days are long behind me.
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I just did this last week in the UK - stock GS4 running MK2, with a SIM from ekit.com.
All I did was to insert the SIM, set the phone to GSM mode, define the APN, and you're done. Finding a cheap carrier for data in the Caribbean is tough, however.
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I just did this last week in the UK - stock GS4 running MK2, with a SIM from ekit.com.
All I did was to insert the SIM, set the phone to GSM mode, define the APN, and you're done. Finding a cheap carrier for data in the Caribbean is tough, however.
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So I've been reading on some travel forums about queen of SXM. She is a part time resident of St. Maarten that does rental phones. I emailed her and for $8 for the week I am renting a SIM card. Any voice/data must be added after that in $5 increments. But data is mostly 2g (and expanding to 3g but likely not widely available). It's only $0.55 per day for the data and it's unlimited (since its so slow, its not like your going to be using a lot anyway). So basically for $13 a phone I can get data and no voice so we can message back and forth. Is Hangouts or what's app going to be reliable on a 2g network? I've read that wechat has designed their app for better use on 2g networks (in places like India and other emerging markets). On my Rezound I was able to force the phone into 1x only mode, but not so much on the S4 to be able to test it.....unless I can find an area with a really crappy signal.
I have been searching and can't really find an answer. I have a note 4 on Sprint. I would like to get the AT&T gear s. I would activate it with the big blue more than likely. Will the call forwarding, etc still work? I believe it should because it is still connected just not on one account. I have the framily plan with sprint and don't want to switch.
I also forgot to mention that I will be buying the s from best buy because of reward credits and they only have the AT&T version listed.
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I have been searching and can't really find an answer. I have a note 4 on Sprint. I would like to get the AT&T gear s. I would activate it with the big blue more than likely. Will the call forwarding, etc still work? I believe it should because it is still connected just not on one account. I have the framily plan with sprint and don't want to switch.
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It should the watchphone has it's own number so call forwarding will work and you watch number would work. It's like google voice if you use that. So yes 2 numbers 1 watch. So bluetooth to accept Sprint stuff. Leave phone at home to accept AT&T stuff.
Ok thanks, that's what I was looking for. I'm not looking to switch sim cards yet and couldn't find out whether this is possible. If only bb would sell the sprint model for price matching purposes.
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Ok thanks, that's what I was looking for. I'm not looking to switch sim cards yet and couldn't find out whether this is possible. If only bb would sell the sprint model for price matching purposes.
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So this means that you wont have your "phone" # forward to the ATT Gear S from your SPRINT #?
So this means you have to give out the ATT Gear S # out to be able to reach you when you leave your Phone at home?
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So this means that you wont have your "phone" # forward to the ATT Gear S from your SPRINT #?
So this means you have to give out the ATT Gear S # out to be able to reach you when you leave your Phone at home?
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He can forward his Sprint number to AT&T gear it has it's own number. He will receive calls from both numbers on watch when he is away from phone and when phone is bluetooth connected he will still recieve both numbers both text both everything.
his watch internet will come from his AT&T number when he's away. When he's by his phone he will use bluetooth/wifi
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He can forward his Sprint number to AT&T gear it has it's own number. He will receive calls from both numbers on watch when he is away from phone and when phone is bluetooth connected he will still recieve both numbers both text both everything.
his watch internet will come from his AT&T number when he's away. When he's by his phone he will use bluetooth/wifi
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so when hes not connected with bluetooth he wont get text or emails from his sprint phone # but will receive calls from his sprint #?
Im sorry if it sounds the same i just want to make sure i get this right.
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so when hes not connected with bluetooth he wont get text or emails from his sprint phone # but will receive calls from his sprint #?
Im sorry if it sounds the same i just want to make sure i get this right.
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yes he can freely make calls on watch AT&T bluetooth he will recieve sprint info if he has wifi calling activated then use sprint things with wifi calling
@rmont23 do you have Sprint carrier?
To me it is the same thing as forwarding you cell to your home phone. The emails will come from my account no matter what service i have. If i understand this right, it should work the same I'll just have two different bills.
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To me it is the same thing as forwarding you cell to your home phone. The emails will come from my account no matter what service i have. If i understand this right, it should work the same I'll just have two different bills.
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THIS everyone will have 2 bills some one carrier in this case 2 carriers users preference. Yes think of watchphone as a home phone on the go when needed
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yes he can freely make calls on watch AT&T bluetooth he will recieve sprint info if he has wifi calling activated then use sprint things with wifi calling
@rmont23 do you have Sprint carrier?
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yes i have sprint.
this is why i ask these question:
From Sprint website: must be on and connected to Sprint’s data network for SMS/MMS and third party app notifications to be routed from Sprint smartphone to Gear S when Bluetooth connection is unavailable.
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yes i have sprint.
this is why i ask these question:
From Sprint website: must be on and connected to Sprint’s data network for SMS/MMS and third party app notifications to be routed from Sprint smartphone to Gear S when Bluetooth connection is unavailable.
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Yes Sprint watchphone will use the GS phone number when you are not connected to bluetooth i.e it will eat you data your 1,000 text/calls 100MB data per month unless you are on family share then your calls/text will be unlimited and you share data when you are away from phone but you have to have 20GB family share or higher for that
Can't really find a straight answer on this. Has anyone been able to setup their Gear S sim to have the same number as their mobile sim?
I guess this could be a different story for each carrier...
It usually has to be paired with you mobile device to share your mobile devices number.
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Can't really find a straight answer on this. Has anyone been able to setup their Gear S sim to have the same number as their mobile sim?
I guess this could be a different story for each carrier...
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On AT&T if you are paired via BT it will show as your primary phone's number. If you are connected remotely and make a phone call, of course the Gear S is going to use and display it's phone number. However, I've been texting people from my Gear S while my phone is at home and it shows as my Primary Phone number as the source for the text.
Overall, I'll say that in the past 3-4 weeks it hasn't made a bit of a difference as no one has questioned anything or gotten confused. Working as I expected and hoped. In the case of a different phone number showing up, people have recognized it as me without worry. My Gear S has the same area code and prefix which I think helps.
dawgboy1783 said:
It usually has to be paired with you mobile device to share your mobile devices number.
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Sorry, realised I wasn't clear enough. So what I want to do is have a sim in the Gear s that shares the same number as the sim in my mobile. So if I wanted to leave my phone home, I could.
Don't want to pay for a separate mobile plan for the Gear S, but don't want to switch my mobile number to the watch either.
Jay-Taicho said:
Sorry, realised I wasn't clear enough. So what I want to do is have a sim in the Gear s that shares the same number as the sim in my mobile. So if I wanted to leave my phone home, I could.
Don't want to pay for a separate mobile plan for the Gear S, but don't want to switch my mobile number to the watch either.
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I don't think this is possible in the U.S. I'm on T-Mobile and my SIM that came with T-Mobile Wearable Plan has its own number.
Here is how it normally works:
1) When Gear S and the Samsung phone are connected using Bluetooth, all calls are placed and received using the PHONE. The watch simply acts as a Bluetooth headset
2) When Phone and Watch are not connected, you can configure the gear manager to forward calls to your watch. It works similar to forwarding your calls to another phone or voice mail. So, after a couple of rings, your Gear S would ring and you could pick up the call on it.
All in all it works pretty well. Also, in Europe, I think you can have two SIM cards associated with the same number but not in the U.S.
I think that would be considered Sim cloning. An illegal process in US... even if you are the #'s user.
Remember, we NEVER own our phone number. It's basically leased to us, and have sole use of it...as long as we pay for it.
With that said, I do remember reading an article about a year back, of a patent filed for a virtual SIM that would be for this purpose.
The OP is talking about multi-sim . Multi-sim is a service offered by many providers around the world. It gives you multiple identical sims with the same number and you can seamlessly share minutes and data. The watch even has a toggle for multi-sim setting. That would be the ideal seamless way to use this watch as your outgoing number from the watch is the same as the phone.
Here's an example: http://www.du.ae/mobile/mobileplans/multi-sim
I ordered a nano sim adapter for my Galaxy S5, and plan on asking att to issue me a nano sim.
Then I can pop it out of the phone and into the watch and go.
Btw, The watch will still call ems even without a sim. Score for me, I am an early am runner and there is only 1 number that can help me.
No monthly plan needed.
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I live in the Netherlands and just ordered a DualSIM which should make it possible for me to use both my S4A and GearS with the same phone and Sim number.
One of the Sims will be nano to fit the watch.
Can't wait for testing!
That's awesome, I wish the US would allow Dual sim cards.
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Jay-Taicho said:
Sorry, realised I wasn't clear enough. So what I want to do is have a sim in the Gear s that shares the same number as the sim in my mobile. So if I wanted to leave my phone home, I could.
Don't want to pay for a separate mobile plan for the Gear S, but don't want to switch my mobile number to the watch either.
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My carrier in Thailand allows me 2 sims, same number. However, not so with carrier in Afghanistan where I work, so depends on the carrier. I presently have Thai sim in gear s, and AFG in phone. Works OK with calls being registered against AFG sim in phone, roaming and data off on gear s.
Hope this helps.
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That's awesome, I wish the US would allow Dual sim cards.
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Same for the UK.
Apparently some of the networks used to offer it years ago but primarily as a business service.
I've heard that Samsung have approached networks in markets such as the US and the UK about possibly introducing such a service but I doubt we'll see such a change.
Ok,
So i have successfully paired iphone 6 with Gear S. I have one sim in iphone and another sim in Gear S. Here is the problem.
All calls on my iphone number are shown on Gear S fine.
However, calls on my Gear S number dop not show up on iphone. The only option on Gear S is to transfer to an "Headset" even though the iphone is paired.
Can some one suggest, if a call on the gear S number can be transferred to the phone?
thanks
A Lot of reviews but no comments. Maybe I need to simplify it..
Can gear S transfer calls to paired phone when call is dialed on a sim thats in the gear S.
I know it can be used to listen to calls dialed on the sim in the paired phone. but what about alternative route.
Basically can the iphone or android act as a bluetooth receiver from the gear S.
Duh. i think i further complicated it...
yahya.hamid said:
A Lot of reviews but no comments. Maybe I need to simplify it..
Can gear S transfer calls to paired phone when call is dialed on a sim thats in the gear S.
I know it can be used to listen to calls dialed on the sim in the paired phone. but what about alternative route.
Basically can the iphone or android act as a bluetooth receiver from the gear S.
Duh. i think i further complicated it...
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No one can really support you here unless they have an iPhone. This device is not made to work with non Android phones. We all are using Android phones.
As for handing off mid-call, probably not. Just conference in your phone if the call is initiated on the Gear S.
yahya.hamid said:
Ok,
So i have successfully paired iphone 6 with Gear S. I have one sim in iphone and another sim in Gear S. Here is the problem.
All calls on my iphone number are shown on Gear S fine.
However, calls on my Gear S number dop not show up on iphone. The only option on Gear S is to transfer to an "Headset" even though the iphone is paired.
Can some one suggest, if a call on the gear S number can be transferred to the phone?
thanks
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You can enable conditional forwarding on the watch sim.. Just look up call forwarding for the carrier that the watch is on, and dial that short code on the Gear with your iPhone number as the forwarding number. Then when someone calls your watch & you don't answer it'll forward to your iPhone instead of going to the voicemail provided by your gear's carrier
yahya.hamid said:
A Lot of reviews but no comments. Maybe I need to simplify it..
Can gear S transfer calls to paired phone when call is dialed on a sim thats in the gear S.
I know it can be used to listen to calls dialed on the sim in the paired phone. but what about alternative route.
Basically can the iphone or android act as a bluetooth receiver from the gear S.
Duh. i think i further complicated it...
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I believe the answer is no.
@yahya.hamid - I would be curious to ask how the integration works for you between the iPhone and the Gear S. As you posted, it does not work going back the other way, but that is not an issue for me. The concerns that have kept me from buying this is that I currently have both an iPhone 6 Plus and a Note 4, but I prefer the iPhone, as I work in a marginal coverage area and the iPhone has far better reception (plus battery life). If the Gear S can accept calls from the iPhone and display basic notifications, this gets around one of my concerns. The other is still the heart rate accuracy, although Ninjamom seems happy with it. If the heart rate accuracy is OK and I can accept calls coming into my iPhone from the Gear S, I will buy it now! I am not concerned if the Gear S can send calls the other way, as I would only ever have calls going to that sim if my phone was at home (for example, when out running).
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@yahya.hamid - I would be curious to ask how the integration works for you between the iPhone and the Gear S. As you posted, it does not work going back the other way, but that is not an issue for me. The concerns that have kept me from buying this is that I currently have both an iPhone 6 Plus and a Note 4, but I prefer the iPhone, as I work in a marginal coverage area and the iPhone has far better reception (plus battery life). If the Gear S can accept calls from the iPhone and display basic notifications, this gets around one of my concerns. The other is still the heart rate accuracy, although Ninjamom seems happy with it. If the heart rate accuracy is OK and I can accept calls coming into my iPhone from the Gear S, I will buy it now! I am not concerned if the Gear S can send calls the other way, as I would only ever have calls going to that sim if my phone was at home (for example, when out running).
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It is basically a phone so if you can forward your calls from your iPhone to any other phone using your iPhone plan, you can forward to the Gear S. But it isn't like you're going to be able to answer calls coming into your iPhone on the Gear S with your call remaining on the iPhone. If that makes sense.
In other words, you have to think of the Gear S as a separate phone that you're just forwarding your calls from your iPhone to. Like a landline cell phone forwarding situation. And if you aren't getting good service on your Note 4, you probably won't get better coverage on the Gear S unless it is on the same carrier that the iPhone is on.
Ah - so unlike using a Samsung Gear Watch with a Samsung phone, you cannot answer the phone via bluetooth on the watch.... It must be forwarded from the phone to the watch via the network. That now makes more sense, as I did not think the two would share bluetooth in this manner. It would be nice if it did, but Samsung and Apple tend not to cooperate with each other.
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@yahya.hamid - I would be curious to ask how the integration works for you between the iPhone and the Gear S. As you posted, it does not work going back the other way, but that is not an issue for me. The concerns that have kept me from buying this is that I currently have both an iPhone 6 Plus and a Note 4, but I prefer the iPhone, as I work in a marginal coverage area and the iPhone has far better reception (plus battery life). If the Gear S can accept calls from the iPhone and display basic notifications, this gets around one of my concerns. The other is still the heart rate accuracy, although Ninjamom seems happy with it. If the heart rate accuracy is OK and I can accept calls coming into my iPhone from the Gear S, I will buy it now! I am not concerned if the Gear S can send calls the other way, as I would only ever have calls going to that sim if my phone was at home (for example, when out running).
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It syncs in beautifully. Once paired, all calls that you receive on your iphone will seamlessly be displayed on the watch too. You can answer them from the watch or iphone. You can also switch to iphone or watch during the call. Similarly, there is an option on the watch that states if you wanna use your iphone number as primary or the sim number. If you suggets iphone then all calls from the gear s can be dialled and will be displayed as dialing on iphone.
There are no issues in calls. Its a complete mirroring.
Whats missing is that if you use your watch sim to call it does not show on the iphone. But thats something you dont want. So cheers.
yahya.hamid said:
It syncs in beautifully. Once paired, all calls that you receive on your iphone will seamlessly be displayed on the watch too. You can answer them from the watch or iphone. You can also switch to iphone or watch during the call. Similarly, there is an option on the watch that states if you wanna use your iphone number as primary or the sim number. If you suggets iphone then all calls from the gear s can be dialled and will be displayed as dialing on iphone.
There are no issues in calls. Its a complete mirroring.
Whats missing is that if you use your watch sim to call it does not show on the iphone. But thats something you dont want. So cheers.
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Fantastic! I appreciate the detailed reply. I have now ordered a watch, but there is a bit of a delay (could be up to a few weeks). Looking forward to having it strapped to my arm, as I really enjoyed using my wife's Gear 2 Neo. Thanks again.
yahya.hamid said:
It syncs in beautifully. Once paired, all calls that you receive on your iphone will seamlessly be displayed on the watch too. You can answer them from the watch or iphone. You can also switch to iphone or watch during the call. Similarly, there is an option on the watch that states if you wanna use your iphone number as primary or the sim number. If you suggets iphone then all calls from the gear s can be dialled and will be displayed as dialing on iphone.
There are no issues in calls. Its a complete mirroring.
Whats missing is that if you use your watch sim to call it does not show on the iphone. But thats something you dont want. So cheers.
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The Gear S uses specialized encryption that the iPhone cannot access. I'm not buying that the connection works.
Cant connect
The two devices can't even connect to one another. Again the Gear S uses special encryption.
I'd love to see the Gear S able to connect to all devices. But it isn't possible with the iPhone. At least not without some kind of jailbreak workaround.
And about notifications ? I use it a lot... how it works woth iphone?
Will see how it goes when the watch arrives. Worst case scenario means I will switch to the Note 4.
zelele said:
And about notifications ? I use it a lot... how it works woth iphone?
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They cannot connect to each other. At all.
My only issue is
I Have my gear s pair to my iPhone 5s but my issue is when calls come in on iphone also come on watch is what I want but on iPhone it shows the name of the contect but on the watch just the number so I have to look at the
Phone before I take the call on my watch any work around for this or am I doing something wrong
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I Have my gear s pair to my iPhone 5s but my issue is when calls come in on iphone also come on watch is what I want but on iPhone it shows the name of the contect but on the watch just the number so I have to look at the
Phone before I take the call on my watch any work around for this or am I doing something wrong
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If the contacts are loaded onto the device, maybe it will then work out who the number belongs to? If not, the iPhone most likely won't push the information to the watch. I am not sure if this will work, as I am still waiting for the watch
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I Have my gear s pair to my iPhone 5s but my issue is when calls come in on iphone also come on watch is what I want but on iPhone it shows the name of the contect but on the watch just the number so I have to look at the
Phone before I take the call on my watch any work around for this or am I doing something wrong
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Have you tried to copy all your contacts onto the Gear S SIM, or are you using the watch without a SIM in it?
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sbrownla said:
The two devices can't even connect to one another. Again the Gear S uses special encryption.
I'd love to see the Gear S able to connect to all devices. But it isn't possible with the iPhone. At least not without some kind of jailbreak workaround.
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Maybe those reporting that it works mean it works when connected remotely, and maybe with dual sim cards?
Details are not too clear.
xendula said:
Maybe those reporting that it works mean it works when connected remotely, and maybe with dual sim cards?
Details are not too clear.
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I think they are full of ____ or they don't know what we mean by pairing the devices. You can forward calls and use call forwarding from the iPhone or any phone with a working number to the Gear S. But you absolutely can not pair the two using Bluetooth because of the encryption.
You can't even pair the Gear S to a Nexus without being Gear Manage up and running. And an iPhone?! Crazy talk.
im about to pair my gear s to my iPhone. I'll let you know also do you know how the texting functionality and notifications work?
I have to have 2 sim cards active all the time, one is an international sim that roams on AT&T network (2G) I use only for phone calls & SMS's, DATA disabled all the time (too much $$ otherwise). The other sim card is a metro pcs unlimited everything. I currently have the ASUS zenfone 2 that I like, except the screen is broken, touch still works though, but now want to try the Gear S + a single sim phone (might buy a refurb. Tmobile Note 4, or a Nexus 6P..etc.)
- Say I have the international sim card in an unlocked AT&T gear S, and when I receive a call; answer it in my phone that's connected to the Gear S through Bluetooth? Or do I need to answer it through the built in speaker or a Bluetooth headphone connected to the Gear S?
- Is there an app like pushbullet that will push notifications (SMS's, missed calles..etc) to my other devices?
Thanks!
1. No, phone calls to the watch needs to be answered on the watch. You can have a BT headset connected to the watch to answer it but phone's can be used this way.
2. Notifications only go one way: from phone to watch. I'm not aware there is any app to the other way.
Also, keep in mind that the Gear S can only work within North America. If you use it outside that region, it is physically not possible to pick up any signal because its dual-band radio.
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1. No, phone calls to the watch needs to be answered on the watch. You can have a BT headset connected to the watch to answer it but phone's can be used this way.
2. Notifications only go one way: from phone to watch. I'm not aware there is any app to the other way.
Also, keep in mind that the Gear S can only work within North America. If you use it outside that region, it is physically not possible to pick up any signal because its dual-band radio.
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I thought it'd be able to route the call somehow heh.
I have pushbullet app, it sends whatever in the notification area to all other devices that run the same app using WiFi or DATA ..etc. I'm guessing no such a thing under Tizen that is reliable and works 100% of the time?
Thanks for the heads up regarding supported frequencies.