Ext Sd moving apps Fall short, need advice. - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

Hello, I have a rooted gs4 64 gb sd card, foldermount, apps2sd, and esfile explorer. I have recently ran almost entirely out of space on internal storage. I have 300 mbs remaining hence my purchasing the 64 gb sd card. I used foldermount to try to move the app and data of The Walking Dead by Telltale games for example. This app is over 2 gbs but when I use foldermount it only moves 1 gb and my phone only moves the size of the app only which is around 20 mbs. I have multiple games with the same situation and can't even move that much of the app space. Having anotther 1.4 gig stuck in my phone I can't find or move is really limiting my phone and I can't do much with it. I finally found the 8 gb of game data and other game files using es file explorer and searching my root files. The 8 gbs are the three games telltale has out right now on android. The games are phenomenal and I dont want to give them up. So what im asking is can anyone tell me how I can move all of a games data, downloaded content, etc from internal phone storage to external micro sd. I didn't try moving with es file explorer because I couldn't find info on if it was safe. Everytime I search how to move all of a games data to external Sd I just find foldermount and other apps similar. Not sure if it just hasn't been asked or realized yet or what's going on but half of the space a game takes up on my phone, in my mind, is not all of the games data. Which has been advertised by the many, many apps Ive tried. Foldermount is a great app and I've purchased it to support the developer I just want more ability to move if possible. Thanks a ton for everyones time and effort, Xda is the best and I've recommended it to all of my friends.
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Sir,
Please wait until mods will move this thread to the device specific forum.
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Good luck

This isnt a Galaxy specific Problem, it's the method of moving the apps thats the problem not my phone
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Space!!! Suffocating for space!!

Well I have a Galaxy S3 with 16 GB of internal memory. I recently got addicted to ashphalts(both 6 and 7), Batman: The Dark Knight, The Amazing Spiderman, Gangster Rio, ShadowGun and many more HD games. As stated, all of them consume huge amount of space and to make the matter worse you are not allowed to see the files that are being downloaded over wifi, so no way to move them manually. I got apps to sd installed which is pointless in Galaxy S3 as it has no option for apps to move to sd card.
Now is there any way I can get rid of this problem? Any way that I can move some of the apps on my 32 GB sd card? I dont want to root or do something like that. I rooted my galaxy s2 and enjoyed installing hundreds of ROMs but for S3 I prefer not to. The sock version is just too good. But is there any way to solve the space issue?
yeah, it sucks because 16gb only has less than 12gb of usable space
it is pretty lame how google removed support for installing to SD card.. i think they're doing this now to get people to buy android phone with more internal memory (32gb, 64gb,etc)..
unfortunately no solution unless you root and hack your phone to death.. might want to take a look at this.
Root is the easiest way to solve most issues including yours.
Other solutions:
1) Finish the game and uninstall it immediately.
2) Trade your phone for 64gb version.
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Thanks mate. I did take a look at that forum earlier but thought that seemed pretty complex to me.
WEll perhaps you are right, google wants us to buy phones with high internal memory and surely we would! ****! Cut down the price then
if rooted u can use titanium backup and move to sd
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if rooted u can use titanium backup and move to sd
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Serious? Does this work?
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@Ev0d3vil: I installed a sd card in one of my SGS3 and then downloaded GTA3 outside the play store. Then you get all the data in a zip, that can be used from sd card. I just installed GTA3 and it works fine from my SD card. Atleast I think. Anyways there is no way to move apps to sd in SGS3 unless rooted. Droidsail super app2sd is a great app that I had used for moving apps to SD in my previous android.
There are two methods around this.
DirectoryBind: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
Ext2InterlaSD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772234&page=39
I'm using the second method flawlessly.
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There are two methods around this.
DirectoryBind: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
Ext2InterlaSD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772234&page=39
I'm using the second method flawlessly.
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Exactly.
@op
Directory bind solves you the issue
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Kryten2k35 said:
There are two methods around this.
DirectoryBind: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
Ext2InterlaSD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772234&page=39
I'm using the second method flawlessly.
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Yep. Good options. Personally I use gl to sd from play store. It moves game data to the external sd. You open the app and it shows you which games etc you can run / move data for. In options you can also add the data folder as well as select folders manually.
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Data to Ext_SD

Hi all
My internal SD is about to filled up while my Ext_SD still has more than 30Gb available out of 64Gb. I have some very big file in the internal SD such as Co-Pilot navigation's map and several games' files like Asphalt 6 & 7 ect ... Those are really big though
I wonder if there is a way to move all of those big files to the Ext-SD? I've heard of something like partitioning the Ext-SD card but don't know how to do it properly so I would really appreciates any instruction / guidance from you experts in the forum
Thanks a lot
Partitioning the external sd is a good idea but not necessary for our phones. I would move pictures and music over the external sd and see if that gives you anymore room.
You can try clearing out some space using the Amaze Memory Clear app from the market or doing it manually from Settings>Storage scroll down till you find Make More Space from the internal storage. You can clear out HTC app caches and temp data and other things it ask you. You'll be surprised how much crap gets saved.
I appreciates your replied and suggestion. Yes I did all that and all of my multi-media files were always on the external SD - even my Titanium backup folder were set on the external but, still, those games from GameLoft and off-line maps that really took all the spaces.
Thank you BTW
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Hi all
My internal SD is about to filled up while my Ext_SD still has more than 30Gb available out of 64Gb. I have some very big file in the internal SD such as Co-Pilot navigation's map and several games' files like Asphalt 6 & 7 ect ... Those are really big though
I wonder if there is a way to move all of those big files to the Ext-SD? I've heard of something like partitioning the Ext-SD card but don't know how to do it properly so I would really appreciates any instruction / guidance from you experts in the forum
Thanks a lot
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Have you tried using app2sd I use it to free up space on my internel. Take some of the other apps or those itself and transfer them to the ext
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Have you tried using app2sd I use it to free up space on my internel. Take some of the other apps or those itself and transfer them to the ext
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Thanks for your input. App2SD only moved app but not it's data. Apps are not a problem in our phone since we have 2,64Gb (internal) partitioned out from the internal SD Card (16Gb) just for apps. More than enough.
It's the data from apps that took spaces and sadly we can not move 'em to the ext-SD. I've also tried the Directory Bind but it's for the SGS2 and it won't works on our phone
Perhaps some of our clever Devs might be interesting of porting the app to our phone someday and that would be great .
Link2SD would be a better option, but it requires kernel support to work.

[NABI 2] Free up Internal Storage - Basic Tips

Fuhu's Nabi 2 comes with 8 GB of internal storage, but the actual space available for app install evaporates quickly. Here are a few tips from my experience that may help you figure out possible space hogs.
Part of the problem is due to the Nabi 2's file storage system. Instead of its external storage being located at /mnt/sdcard, it is instead at /mnt/sdcard2. This causes problems as many programs will assume they are saving to the external drive at sdcard, but are instead using precious space on the limited internal drive.
There are a couple different work-around rooted options, but at this time they seem to me a bit like a bandage. If you feel like tackling these more advanced drive swapping options, see Root External 2 Internal SD (How-to for Nabi 2 by e2950) and DirectoryBind by slig (How-to for Nabi 2 by Clarkiss). Root External 2 Internal SD swaps the two. DirectoryBind causes apps to install their extra data to sdcard2.
The first thing to do when you've got a failure to install an app due to insufficient space is to check the device's storage. Get there by accessing Android's Settings, Storage, and when the graph and list come up on the right, touch Apps. You can sort by app size or by alphabetical. Sort by size and the list will show which apps are taking the most space. Another way to get to the same place is via Android's Settings, Apps, and select All at the top.
A. Easiest is removing unwanted demos and preinstalled apps. Touch the name of the app and select Uninstall. I am unsure if this will require root or not. I didn't try while still unrooted and don't know if some apps are locked in by Fuhu.
B. My first space hog was actually the Gallery. One of the first things we do after getting recovery and root on the Nabi 2 is to install GApps. In doing so, Google's Gallery replaces Fuhu's. I have uploaded many Picasa albums over time and, using my Google account on my son's Nabi 2, syncronized and downloaded 300 MB onto the internal storage.
Unsync and clear Google Gallery:
1. Open Android's Settings, Accounts & sync, [Your Google Account], Uncheck Sync Google Photos
2. Settings, Storage, Apps (All), Gallery, Force Stop, Clear Data
3. Reboot
After rebooting, the downloaded albums and photos Google had sync'd will be gone, freeing up precious internal space.
Update: More picture/video space hogging was found in /mnt/sdcard/DCIM/.thumbnails There were two thumbnail files adding up to 277MB hiding out.
C. Having multiple rooted android devices, one of the first things I set up after rooting is Titanium Backup (TB). Normally, TB saves its backed up files to sdcard. But, because sdcard is the Nabi 2's space constricted internal storage, this causes a problem quickly. The solution is to change TB's backup storage location. This can save hundreds of MBs. This was the first problem I tackled, so I don't remember how much
1. In Titanium Backup, open Preferences, Backup storage location
2. Change the default location from /mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup to /mnt/sdcard[BOLD]2[/BOLD]/TitaniumBackup
TB will handle copying your contents from the old directory to the new one.
D. My next surprise space hog was cloud storage app Box. Hogging a respectable 138 MB of files apparently sync'd/cached, this one was easy to clear.
1. In Box, open Settings, and touch Clear Cache under the Folder Activity heading.
These are basic, simple, and temporary tips which will only free a little more space to allow installation of that one last app you mean to get on your Nabi 2. Any other suggestions would be more than welcome.
I'm hoping that as the Nabi community matures and XDA grants us our own subforum (hint: lets do our best to stoke more Nabi 2 threads), that solutions are created to truly fix the lack of space to make this device pain free and open up its true potential.
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There are a couple different work-around rooted options, but at this time they seem to me a bit like a bandage. If you feel like tackling these more advanced drive swapping options, see Root External 2 Internal SD (How-to for Nabi 2 by e2950) and DirectoryBind by slig (How-to for Nabi 2 by Clarkiss). Root External 2 Internal SD swaps the two. DirectoryBind causes apps to install their extra data to sdcard2.
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This Root External 2 Internal SD (How-to for Nabi 2 by e2950) works great with my Nabi2. But does not work on boot. Does anybody knows why?
arvati said:
This Root External 2 Internal SD (How-to for Nabi 2 by e2950) works great with my Nabi2. But does not work on boot. Does anybody knows why?
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I tried and tried myself too and never got it to work at boot or really even swap over the storage in any usable way. I have since given up on that.
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I tried and tried myself too and never got it to work at boot or really even swap over the storage in any usable way. I have since given up on that.
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I finally got it to work at boot and looked like everything was ok. Watched as I added apps and such, seemed that 80% of everything still installed to original Internal storage. Only real change was anything I downloaded went straight on micro sdcard. I also gave up.
Despite me using the external2internal app and it LOOKING like it was all swapped in the settings under data, the apps still all seem to go on the original tiny internal sd card and also when you use settings to look at installed apps, the free space it quotes tallies with the internal card, not the swapped-large-external card.
I can only assume something has gone a bit wrong in the settings of the app.
I dont understand how the nabi2 settings sees huge space under "storage" but tiny space under "apps" its as if the external2internal app has only swapped the two cards for "some" of the nabi's setup/brain
Any ideas please?
I was never able to get Ext2Int working properly so I abandoned that route.
Something that does work for me is [APP][ROOT] FolderMount - Link folders from internal SD to external to free space. It doesn't swap the internal for external outright, but does allow you to move specific data hogs to sdcard2. I still need to do a little walk through on it. . .
FM can move files from the original location to the destination of your choice if the files don't require root permissions. If they do, you have to move the files using a root file explorer of your choice.
FM will not work for moving apps due to its inherent time delay before actually changing the link to the new location. It's 30 seconds to 3 minutes after boot.
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Bait-Fish said:
I was never able to get Ext2Int working properly so I abandoned that route.
Something that does work for me is [APP][ROOT] FolderMount - Link folders from internal SD to external to free space. It doesn't swap the internal for external outright, but does allow you to move specific data hogs to sdcard2. I still need to do a little walk through on it. . .
FM can move files from the original location to the destination of your choice if the files don't require root permissions. If they do, you have to move the files using a root file explorer of your choice.
FM will not work for moving apps due to its inherent time delay before actually changing the link to the new location. It's 30 seconds to 3 minutes after boot.
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Thanks very much, Im not sure if that would work for me as most of my little boys apps are pretty small in size, most around the 20mb mark, with a few being 100mb so its not the big games or datahogs thats a problem, its the sheer weight of numbers of how many of these small apps he has installed.
So Im not sure if FM would actually be able to move any of his apps over to the external and actually work.
Even though he has so many apps, selective removing isnt a solution as he remembers them all. He is autistic trust me he remembers them hehe
Thanks and all help is appreciated.
Alex
DiskUsage is a good app to visually find large data stores. On my phone, I found Amazon caching all of the apps it had downloaded but I cancelled the installation on, over 1.5 GB! I don't use Amazon the same way on the Nabi though.
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DiskUsage is a good app to visually find large data stores. On my phone, I found Amazon caching all of the apps it had downloaded but I cancelled the installation on, over 1.5 GB! I don't use Amazon the same way on the Nabi though.
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Thanks I had a look at diskusage but honestly I am so noobish that I couldnt quite tell exactly what it was explaining to me.
Looking on things like data or apps there were things listed that almost seemed twice and also some noted as apk's and I wasnt sure if this was the game itself, of if it was the apk file that installed the game and the tablet is storing the apk's as well as the installed games.
As a beginer at this kind of thing, its quite hard to get your head around it all.
And we have now officially run out of space and trying to magane through as best we can.
Thanks for the suggestion
Alex
The actual APKs, not good to move with FolderMount. But, if there's a bit of data in /data/data, /data/obb, /android, FolderMount can move that to your external storage, freeing space for more apps. At least you looked into it. My son has a couple apps that take 100s of MBs of data. That makes freeing space easy.
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The actual APKs, not good to move with FolderMount. But, if there's a bit of data in /data/data, /data/obb, /android, FolderMount can move that to your external storage, freeing space for more apps. At least you looked into it. My son has a couple apps that take 100s of MBs of data. That makes freeing space easy.
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Thanks Ill have a look at that data aspect when I can next get the tablet off of him, Thanks I appreciate the advice.
Dont think Ive seen the obb folder...
When I plug the nabi into the PC lead and it pops up like an SD drive on my PC, there does seem to be a lot of folders that people mention that I dont seem to be able to see. Possibly like a kind of hidden folder? Also the size of the SD looked at through the PC always shows as much smaller than it is.
So Im really thinking that there is a chunk of the internal-sd card, or internal memory, that is hidden from the basic pc cable connection. Is that right and if-so how am I able to see that area to be able to back it up and/or be able to mess with it?
Thanks
Alex
I don't have a Nabi 2 anymore but have any of you used the app Link2sd? I've been using it on another 4 gig device and works really well. You have not split your micro sdcard into 2 partitions. Link2sd uses the second partition and you use the first as your micro sdcard. When you click Link app to SD, it moves it, then open app and see if it runs OK. If not you'll have to click move to SD to put it back so it will work.
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Yes. That and FolderMount are what keep my son's Nabi functional.
A 2 GB partition was a bit small for me though. For anyone that goes that route and had a large SD (64 GB), give the Link2SD partition at least 3 GB. I had to start over after doing it the first time.
Or, count and calculate the apps you mean to move them add extra space for future expansion. That'd be the smart way
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Im really dumb on these things and am terrified of busting my sons nabi (he relies upon it so much now).
So does this move the whole app, or just the data bits of the app? I heard that the bigger apps that are heavy on data move well, but the smaller apps that are mostly just the apk dont always move. Almost all my sons apps are the small kind. So Im not sure if this will still work.
Also, we hardly have anything at all to put on our external sd, we only bought it because we thought we could get apps on it. So is there any reason not to put a huge partition on the sd for the program? Our sd is 32gb, so I guess formats at about 28gb, so I was thinking of having the partition 25gb
Thanks for all the thoughts and help people.
PS: Is foldermount necessary as well? Or can I just try this with Link2SD? Im nervous enough about trying to learn one new software but integrating two at the same time concerns me somewhat.
Thanks
Alex
Some thoughts.
Honestly, from my experience with both, do Link to SD with a respectable partition. Something big enough to grow into, maybe 5 GB. Or, 10 since you say you have a lot of external SD space, but that is surely overkill since the apps data will burst your internal before the apps exceed 10 GB.
That allows you to move the largest apps to the external. Their data will still be on the internal though. That will be your next headache.
I find my FolderMount pairs frequently unpinned and I have to log into Daddy mode and re-enable them. I think that would not be good for you, alexbobspoons. When the FolderMount pairs are not enabled, some of the larger data apps (Mini Motor or My First Trainz Set) will download their data again when my son tries to play them (to internal since the pair is not active). My four year old will tell me now so I can straighten it out. I use FolderMount to move the entire /sdcard/android/data and /sdcard/android/obb folders to the external.
But, like I said, focus on Link to SD and that should free some storage pretty well. I found it a bit more difficult than FolderMount. Also, I am unsure how Link to SD plays into making a nandroid, if it's all copied and restored properly. I haven't really tried that yet.
Update: And again, FolderMount was not linking my pairs this morning. I haven't tried to ask for help on that issue since the Nabi's storage is all funked up by default. FolderMount had an update so I will see if that changes anything. Also of note, I haven't upgraded to the latest Nabi update either.
While I was in there, I checked that I used all 2 GB I alloted for Link to SD (I should have done at least 4 GB) on the external. FolderMount has about 7 GB on the external.
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Hi thanks again for the advice.
Am I right in thinking that most apps are composed of just two components, one component being the apk itself (which can be moved to external using link2sd), the other being the data (which can be moved to external using foldermount).
Is this right??
If-so, then IF I am using the disk-usage app correctly, then almost all of my sons apps are in the apk bracket with hardly any usage on the data aspect.
So if this is the case, then I wouldnt much need to use foldermount, and would simply need a huge partition on the external SD to have all the apps (apk's?) moved to. If that is the case, then I dont think I would bust the nabi2's internal memory with the data as theres hardly any of it.
Am I then right in thinking that after moving all the stuff via link2sd that my internal memory would be almost all empty, and all I need to do in future is 1: Buy new app and download, 2:Link2sd the new app, 3:Hand tablet back to son and all done.
Am I understanding it all correctly so-far please?
Thanks
Alex
PS: You mention nandriod.... whats nandroid?? Thanks.
Yes. apks are the apps. You've got the idea.
A nandroid is a term used for the backup image made while in custom recovery (TWRP on our Nabi 2s). It's like ghosting your PC. If you mess up after, you typically can restore that backup nandroid and make it like nothing ever happened.
I'm guessing the apps moved with Link to SD will not exist when the external SD is ejected. And, not backed up in the nandroid.
Ok thanks for that.
Well I have a spare 32gb sd card so my plan is:
1: Backup the nabi using twerp onto my existing sd card
2: format and prepare new sd card
3: remove ext2sd app in case it conflicts
4: put new sd card into nabi
5: Install link2sd
6: attempt to move apps over onto the external sd and see what happens
hopefully, the internal memory should get nice and empty, while the external memory slowly fills with the other stuff.
Then if it works, I can download all his missing apps and move each one to external sd
Fingers crossed.
Cheers
Alex
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Ok thanks for that.
hopefully, the internal memory should get nice and empty, while the external memory slowly fills with the other stuff.
Then if it works, I can download all his missing apps and move each one to external sd
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Alex,
Were you met with success? I'd like to clear out my daughter's Nabi 2, but I'll go your route if it worked. Also, has anyone found a way to save pictures or videos to the CD card by default?

Apps That Take Too Much Space

I couldn't figure out why I had so little space left in root on my GP. So, I did some snooping around and found that one of my apps had 356 mb stored in memory.
It was a moon phase app that was apparently storing the moon phase for EVERY DAY that passed. I looked around, switched a bunch of apps to SD, never suspecting that a silly moon phase app was the culprit.
I looked at just about every other app before discovering this memory thief... Phases of the Moon.
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It's also good to use a tool (All-In-One) where you can clean out your SD card, so you can free up space on your internal SD card. Don't forget to wipe cache data too.
In es file explorer, there in the SD card analyst which will tell you what folders contain the files that are large and taking up too much space
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Unable to move apps to SD card when plenty of space

Hi I have a 16gb SD card in my Sony tablet that in the past I have moved a few apps over to, i have nearly filled up the tablets internal memory so decided to move a few more over after only moving one app I tried another which is 600mb but after a while I get a error saying their is not enough space left on the SD card when their is 10gb left anyone have any ideas why it would do this
Thanks in advance
I believe due to lollipop you're not able to move the whole app to the sd card. This ought to be changed in the marshmallows update. Unfortunately, without root, there is nothing you can do about it. Please correct me if I am wrong on this
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I believe due to lollipop you're not able to move the whole app to the sd card. This ought to be changed in the marshmallows update. Unfortunately, without root, there is nothing you can do about it. Please correct me if I am wrong on this
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That might be the case as the first app I tried was the Sonic CD game at 600mb but just tried my ebay app at 685mb and that moved straight over, only other difference between these apps is ebay is from the Google Play Store while Sonic was from the Amazon underground apps app do you know if you can't move the amazon underground apps ?
there are 2 programms which assist moving apps to sd. Link2SD is very good - you re-partition your sd card (e.g. if you have 64, you split it into 48gb fat and +16gb ext4 partition) and then you have extra 16gb for apps. It also can move obb files to sdcard, but wants you to upgrade to PRO version for this. Here, FolderMount app comes handy. It is made just to move obb files (this is what you usually get with big games). So, both apps, when used in parallel, allow you to move pretty much everything to sdcard. Both need root. That's what I use on other devices, and will try to replicate same setup on XZ3CT later today. But if it all sounds too complicated, maybe you need to wait for Android marshmallow couple of weeks, and it will allow you to fully use sdcard for apps.

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