Which uses more power: the motion sensor on or display always on?
In my usage it's been the always on, that runs my battery down.
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I use always on and typically have 30-45% battery life left when I go to charge at night. I'm a fairly heavy user throughout the day.
That is helpful. Anyone else have data?
It will depend on
a) what always in face you use - the more black area, the less battery
b) if using motion, what clock face you use and how much black it uses
c) if using motion, how often you trigger it unintentionally. I'm a teacher and the days that I have class, my battery drains about 10-20% more because I move my hands around a lot when I'm teaching. I'm pointing at the board, and when I stand and talk, I also move my hands a lot.
When I'm just sitting at my desk all day, the motion hardly gets activated.
If I used the always on face, it wouldn't matter of I was teaching it not as the face would display the same thing regardless of how much I move my arm.
Personally, I think all of the always on faces look terrible.
I like the default blue face and the muted grey version that is displayed when motion activated. It only gets bright if you then touch the screen. I think that saves a lot of battery.
Screen on is the battery killer.
When I'm not wearing the watch (and hence nit activating the screen) it looses less than 1% per hour when connected via BT.
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Even running PW edo5, screen set low, and all other battery saving tips, my display still uses over 80%. Was wondering if anyone had any advice.
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Use the phone less... jk.
I use two utilities to save battery:
Screebl Lite will use your accelerometer to automatically keep the screen on if it is being used or turn it off if not (if the phone is flat it lets the screen turn off.) It can be useful so you don't have to turn the screen on and off a lot.
Screen Filter puts a dark filter over the whole screen, to allow the phone to go way under the default brightness setting. It isn't really practical during the day but it saves a lot of battery if you can set it even at 50% and lower at night, in bed, etc..
and make sure that you aren't leaving wifi and data on when they aren't being used, same for bluetooth, gps, etc. to save battery overall.
It stands to reason that your display will use the most energy. All that 80% is telling you is that while your phone is running it is using a certain amount of power, of that certain amount your display is using 80% of it. I don't think it will ever use much less than that no matter what you do. After all when you are using your phone that is the one thing that is always active.
Why not just keep spare batteries around? The last time I ordered batteries I paid $2 each for Samsung batteries out of China. They are the ones for the Epic maybe, but the same thing other than color. Requires a custom kernel (pretty much any kernel now other than stock) to charge them in the phone. However I almost always use external chargers as I always switch dead batteries out.
Everyone worries about battery life, its a smart phone if you use it it eats batteries. All you can do is make it slightly better than it was. Or you can just keep a spare battery in your pocket just in case and use wifi, GPS, 3g, and still have a bright screen. I have 5 batteries and 2 desk chargers on my desk (2 fascinates in my house).
I believe in the Glitch V12 kernel, you can have custom display dimming settings. I'm not sure if this a completely objective observation, but it seems like I could get the dim brightness setting darker on this kernel than in the stock.
Well thanks for advice I will def give those 2 apps a look! And yes, I do use 2 batteries. The stock 1500 annd also an extended 2200 I found on Amazon. Great investment even though it does add some bulk. I use a battery calibration App with them. Just wonder if that App is enough or should I be doing some other type of calibration?
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Should be fine, just make sure to be at 100% charge on the battery for best results.
Also let it be known that on miui with glitch my display uses 6% of my battery.
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6% ????? On the DISPLAY? ??....WOW that's THE lowest I've ever seen! How is that possible?
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6% is easily possible if you never use the phone all day. The system will hog all of the battery with the screen off. I think the most important thing is how many %/hour you lose when you are not using the phone. I think about 2.5 to 3% per hour is pretty typical for me.
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6% is easily possible if you never use the phone all day. The system will hog all of the battery with the screen off. I think the most important thing is how many %/hour you lose when you are not using the phone. I think about 2.5 to 3% per hour is pretty typical for me.
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Yup I agree!
Problem: For most of us, the big, bright screen eats up most of our battery power. One advantage of LED screens is the darker you make them (including using dark backgrounds), the fewer milliamps they use. So you could turn off auto-brightness and manually adjust the brightness to darker settings. Far from perfect since you must adjust it every time you go from a dark building to a bright sunny day - and vice-versa. A pain.
I recently installed Screen Filter by haxor industries. They only tout its ability to make the screen really dark for night-time viewing, with the side benefit that it will also save some battery. It works great for that. It will make the screen much, much darker than the lowest stock brightness level (even using apps which take it to its absolute lowest setting, which the stock brightness slider won't allow you to do). I've found going to 25% is perfect. It makes the screen a little gray when you go really dark but its a minor downside.
Solution: I realized it can also be set to only dim the screen a little, like 75%, or 80%. Not helpful at all in a dark room since it is still very bright. But I also noticed that it works along with the stock auto-brightness setting. So you can apply a fairly bright setting to Screen Filter and leave it on all the time, effectively lowering the stock auto-brightness level a few notches no matter what brightness it picks. You still get the benefit of auto, and you get to reduce the battery draw all the time, on the single-biggest battery user on the Note.
You can save multiple widgets on the home screen, each set to different levels, so you can turn off the 75% setting and apply a 25% setting at night with two button presses. Or turn it off with one button press in bright sun. And/or you can add it as an app shortcut which allows you to adjust the brightness from an "ongoing notification" in the notification bar.
I'm starting a test today, leaving mine on 75% all the time with auto-brightness on, and using 25% in dark situations which doesn't happen often. I expect this will produce a noticeable improvement in battery life.
are you representing the app ?...or for the company?......
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Look at my post count and how long I've been on this board. No.
The app has no ads and is free, BTW.
Looks promising. Ran mine down to 5%. 15 hours on battery, 4 hours of screen time. Most people here only report 3 to 3 1/2 hours of screen time.
I just maintain my brightness, im anal like that. Especially with that notification shortcut for increasing or reducing brightness someone recently posted. i am good to go.
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I use screen filter and did not think to use it all the time with auto brightness, I will give it a go thanks for the idea.
Simply setting my brightness down to about 25% and leaving it I get 4.5~5 hours screen on time.
This is still working well for me, with a noticeable increase in battery time.
I've adjusted my lowest setting from 25% to 30%, too much of a gray cast to the screen at 25%. 30% is still pretty dark in a dark room. The 75% setting is good most of the time but I've found in full sun I usually have to turn it off.
Lol at wish777, ya he is promoting a free app. Do some research before you assume and accuse someone of something.
Thanks to op for app suggestion, it works great. I downloaded it, you must of brainwashed me with your deceiving free app propaganda
<--- that's me I don't know what happened I read your review then I blacked out, when I came to I had this strange FREE app on my phone
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Yes, the screen is almost always the biggest battery hog in these devices. Thanks for sharing that app.
Here is another, https://play.google.com/store/apps/...XJ2ZWZpc2gud2lkZ2V0cy5icmlnaHRuZXNzbGV2ZWwiXQ.. It is FREE, so no acusations. I am not the dev and I didn't even play one on TV. This one is nice because you have a single widget that pops up a window with several options of screen brightness.
ANd if you are using Juice Defender Ultimate, There is Brightness feature built in that do the same thing.
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Yes, the screen is almost always the biggest battery hog in these devices. Thanks for sharing that app.
Here is another, https://play.google.com/store/apps/...XJ2ZWZpc2gud2lkZ2V0cy5icmlnaHRuZXNzbGV2ZWwiXQ.. It is FREE, so no acusations. I am not the dev and I didn't even play one on TV. This one is nice because you have a single widget that pops up a window with several options of screen brightness.
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Looking at the reviews for that app, someone said that Dimmer takes the screen down farther. I tried Dimmer before Screen Filter (only for night time viewing) and can confirm it will take the Note down to the lowest allowed 10/255 where the stock brightness only allows you to go to 30/255. However, Screen Filter will make the screen even darker than Dimmer. Something to consider - not bashing any of the above. Just sounds like Screen Filter is better both for daytime and nightime use.
I use screen filter to read at night. I'm not sure about the battery savings but with screen filter set at 12.5% the screen is unreadable unless you are in a dark room. In a dark room at that level white text is more gray than white as well.
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are you representing the app ?...or for the company?......
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asking a question is now the same as accusation?
good thread. i installed S.F. in Feb, def works great for me. but i prefer manually adjusting screen brightness via the shortcut "Slider" at top of the Gnote's screen
I use this app for night time reading. It works great and I didn't know about having multiple widgets with different darkness settings. Thanks for the pro tip!!!
Which app did he promote? I don't see any mention :-\
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Looks promising. Ran mine down to 5%. 15 hours on battery, 4 hours of screen time. Most people here only report 3 to 3 1/2 hours of screen time.
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I'm getting just shy of and over 4 hours screen time, depending how long I'm actually talking on the phone for that day. Not using this app btw, wifi at home, LTE everywhere else
Actually, for me, the screen is the number 3 item for killing battery, trumped by phone calls at number one. And I dont even spend that much time on phone calls, usually less than an hour per night (I wish I could find a solution for this besides not making / taking calls).
Under Settings->Display->Auto Adjust Screen Power, I have this DISABLED.
This helps significantly with the 'greys' on a dark screen (to the best of my limited comprehension, this is being called black crush?) AND virtually eliminates the 'banding' I was seeing initially. Strangely however, I had to disable this option and it took a day or two before the banding almost completely disappeared (I was seeing it ALOT on the Google Market initial grey screen before it loads in the ads).
I use Auto Brightness.
I also have Settings->Power Saving->All Options are DISABLED.
Anyway, you might try disabling the power saving and auto adjust screen power and see if that helps with black appearing grey using the app you are mentioning.
Use the 15 toggle mod to turn of all cellular data when you don't use your phone. You can still receive messages/calls but there is no reason to leave mobile data on while at work or you're not using the phone.
I usually leave school with around 90% battery left and I'm on school from 8-1. All because I leave data off while not in use.
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As Samsung declare, to extend battery life of your gear S, never recharge more than 80%!
I don't know why, but a Samsung engeneer teach me that this trick works perfectly on all devices, in SAM laptop, for example, user can choice this function from BIOS!
So charge until 80% and get out more than the original 100%??
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Basically this trick is not to make the battery have a longer period before it drains to 0% but rather to make its entire lifespan longer. It's the same thing with draining if to zero. Ideally, lipo batteries would be kept at their nominal voltage (40-50% on most batteries) in order for them to have the longest life.
Hope that helps.
Thank you for the tip!
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Basically this trick is not to make the battery have a longer period before it drains to 0% but rather to make its entire lifespan longer. It's the same thing with draining if to zero. Ideally, lipo batteries would be kept at their nominal voltage (40-50% on most batteries) in order for them to have the longest life.
Hope that helps.
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m0nz thank you very much for the tip !
I normally follow these tricks on increase the battery life of Android devices
Adjust the brightness
The display on your watch doesn’t always have to be super bright, especially if you’re indoors most of the time. There are usually five or six levels of brightness depending on the Android Wear watch model, and the default is usually a setting of 4. A setting of 3 is a happy medium, but you can probably get away with a level of 2 most of the time.
Turn off Tilt to Wake Screen
Tilt to Wake will automatically wake your watch when you hold up your arm and tilt it towards you. A very useful feature, but you might find that your display actually turns on a lot of times when you never intended to look at it. This might seem harmless, but it adds up over time and will lower your battery life.
Block unnecessary notifications
Getting notified about new emails, reminders, the weather, and other important stuff are crucial to your experience with Android Wear, but there might be notifications that aren’t as significant. Blocking those that aren’t will reduce the amount of time your watch wakes up.
I normally don't let the battery runs under the 20% of charge for smartphone and smartwatch too....
Rickyzx said:
I normally follow these tricks on increase the battery life of Android devices
Adjust the brightness
The display on your watch doesn’t always have to be super bright, especially if you’re indoors most of the time. There are usually five or six levels of brightness depending on the Android Wear watch model, and the default is usually a setting of 4. A setting of 3 is a happy medium, but you can probably get away with a level of 2 most of the time.
Turn off Tilt to Wake Screen
Tilt to Wake will automatically wake your watch when you hold up your arm and tilt it towards you. A very useful feature, but you might find that your display actually turns on a lot of times when you never intended to look at it. This might seem harmless, but it adds up over time and will lower your battery life.
Block unnecessary notifications
Getting notified about new emails, reminders, the weather, and other important stuff are crucial to your experience with Android Wear, but there might be notifications that aren’t as significant. Blocking those that aren’t will reduce the amount of time your watch wakes up.
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That's not a batter management tip - its a tip for the Samsung designers to get a clue and improve the detection algorithm. This is a problem on many Samsung devices I have hard - they bungle the face, motion and light detection algorithm, so the phone is always slow to detect you when you do need it, yet there are far to many false detections.
Though I feel Brightness setting 1 (presumably the lowest brightness setting) is too bright, the Auto setting is a drasticly lower brightness level over all, washing out the sharpness and vibrancy of the display in both ambient on and ambient off modes. It seems a shame to have to settle for the flat tire watch face when the overall effect of the light sensor living in that area does not seem to provide a worthy purpose.
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Though I feel Brightness setting 1 (presumably the lowest brightness setting) is too bright, the Auto setting is a drasticly lower brightness level over all, washing out the sharpness and vibrancy of the display in both ambient on and ambient off modes. It seems a shame to have to settle for the flat tire watch face when the overall effect of the light sensor living in that area does not seem to provide a worthy purpose.
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I just purchased this watch and was wondering that same thing. It's too early to come to a conclusion as I've literally only had it for a few hours. I'm going to try auto with "always on" and see how that does with battery, then maybe try number 1 on the same setting. Far as the flat tire that everyone is upset about, I can already say I would have rather had manual adjustment only with a full circular screen. Oh well I did all my homework between this watch and the Huawei. The one thing that gave this an edge was the 400 battery and the ability to switch bands at will. After a week or so I should have a good idea if this was a good purchase.
I got mine last week. For mr it was the 400 mAh battery and the watch face size. Anything under 46mm or a band less than 22mm would look silly on me.
On autp thr active screen is practically unreadable while the ambient screen OK.
Strange thing: my battery just went ftom 92% to practically 0 in what seemed to be less than 2 hours. And the screen was off the entire time.
Battery is great for me. Only lost 20% in 12 hours, about half that time I was using the "always on" screen mode or it would have been even less. I am not going to be a heavy user so that makes a difference, if you're someone who is using it all the time it's going to be a different story I'm sure.
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I got mine last week. For mr it was the 400 mAh battery and the watch face size. Anything under 46mm or a band less than 22mm would look silly on me.
On autp thr active screen is practically unreadable while the ambient screen OK.
Strange thing: my battery just went ftom 92% to practically 0 in what seemed to be less than 2 hours. And the screen was off the entire time.
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Your graph say that your screen stay ON 62% of the time, so it drop the battery in 2H. Maybe something touch the screen and your watch stay ON ?
I sometimes notice while wearing short sleeves that the screen comes on and never goes off even though Always on is set to Off. I usually notice when the watch or watch face becomes warm. But generally battery life is fine, requiring a charge every other day.
Another reason I chose the Moto over the Huawei watch or any other is wireless charging. No more corroded pogo pins for me!
I am at 33% and still haven't charged since I got the watch on Thursday. I do turn it off at night like I do my phone, but nonetheless that is great far as I'm concerned.
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Why does LG think it's ok to ship a watch with a 12 hour battery life, with minimal use. Just setting up the watch took %40 battery
Without sacrificing screen brightness is there anything to be done?? Is there any sort of root + cpu app we can lower CPU speed with??
Did you uncheck always on screen? Only option I have off and notice decent battery life for the entire day.
Mine goes for 16 hours once completely setup. If you start downloading and setting up this will surely tax the battery on any watch. The 240MAH doesn't help, but once setup it should be fine afterwards.
I had the LG G Watch R (w/ 420MAH) prior and setting up took a good deal of the battery but at EOD was at 65%, while the Style is at 40%.....understandable given the size of the battery.
I found mine was going dead by mid afternoon with little use.
I found turning auto screen brightness off and just leaving it on 4 helps. Also think after a couple of weeks use it's got better anyway. Usually on about 40-50% by the time I leave work.
Main problem I have is the little dial on the side is in a crop place, so my hand keeps pressing it an making assistant listen, eating up battery.
Really wish there was a screen rotation option so I could wear the watch with the dial on the opposite side.
Oh well!
I would like to see more options for ambient mode. I think the brightness is too high. I've only found one watchface that lets you control the color in ambient mode. It's called "line". I changed the ambient color to just red and decreased the opacity of the lines and complications. I've been off the charger for about an hour, received a few notifications and I'm still @ 99%. Might be a fluke, but I'm sure using a single color uses less battery than using white, which is all 3 colors combined.
This is my third smartwatch in 2 weeks. I've downgraded twice because others are just too bulky. I'm sure there's a solution out there. I hope battery life gets better in time with updates. I hate this range anxiety.
I just bought one and it is still too early to tell but battery life is fine for me. If I disable Bluetooth (which I know defeats the purpose of it) and WiFi with no ambient, it lasted me about 2 1/2 days (but I do turn it off at night since I have no need to keep it on while I sleep). If I keep Bluetooth on, no WiFi, and no ambient, it lasts the entire day (13 or 14 hours) with about 40% left. I have to do more testing (especially with ambient). You don't want the watch face on all the time anyway because it will cause screen burn-in. Some of the watch face apps allow you to use an ambient where it is usually black and white with less information showing.
Hello. Can anyone help with a battery model? Need to search for a replacement one but there is no info at the internet about its battery nor where to buy it....
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Hello. Can anyone help with a battery model? Need to search for a replacement one but there is no info at the internet about its battery nor where to buy it....
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Same here.
I looked everywhere. My battery is dead, it drops from 100% to around 30% as I disconnect it from the charger.
Even if we find the battery, the replacement looks hard. I was hoping to just get the Pixel Watch but I guess that's not going to happen.
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