Been considering buying the LTE model since i'm returning my Nvidia shield tablet.
Which functions will i lose specific to this tablet if i unlock the bootloader ?
I know i will lose DRM keys and camera functionality, would someone be able to confirm please ?
nags92 said:
Been considering buying the LTE model since i'm returning my Nvidia shield tablet.
Which functions will i lose specific to this tablet if i unlock the bootloader ?
I know i will lose DRM keys and camera functionality, would someone be able to confirm please ?
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You can backup your drm keys anyway if you need to relock boot loader pretty much same as the z ultra procedure I think.
Ahhh okay. But I thought you needed root and to be able to do so you need to unlock the bootloader as there isn't a exploit to root yet ?
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Ahhh okay. But I thought you needed root and to be able to do so you need to unlock the bootloader as there isn't a exploit to root yet ?
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Not sure about root but I want to unlock bootloader just so I can install a generic UK firmware and did of bloatware and O2 startup logo but will not root so I can use my banking app.
jutley said:
You can backup your drm keys anyway if you need to relock boot loader pretty much same as the z ultra procedure I think.
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there is still no exploit to gain root and back up DRM keys.
the current root method available is for unlocked bootloaders only.
and once you unlock you cannot backup drm keys.
so either wait for an exploit to be found in lolipop or unlock the bootloader to gain root.
So what functions will lose?
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i'm also currious to this,
can anyone confirm what functions still work
X-reality (i dont realy care about this)
camera speed/improvements (don't care either because it looks silly to take pictures with a tablet )
active noise cancelation with the MDR-31NC, for me really important, basicly the main reason of buying this Z3TC)
Anyone able to confirm that unlocking the bootloader kills remote play? It does for the phones apparently.
Hello!
In order to flash a no brand firmware you DON'T need do unlock your bootloader. Just use flashtool and a nobrand firmware
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I have a couple questions to ask about rooting this device.
I have a UK model with unlockable boot loader. Everything stock on the device.
1. Is there a root out yet that doesn't require unlocking the boot loader?
2. Can I root without voiding my warranty?
3. Can I easily unroot and leave no indication of it being rooted, to make a warranty claim if ever needed?
4. Do mobile banking apps still not work on rooted devices?
5. Does rooting slow down your device?
Thanks in advance
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1. Yes there is a full root thread on the Original Development forums for the Z2
2. No, your warrenty will void with root however removing and flashing a stock FTF it will restore your warrenty as your Z2 no longer contains modified content
3. You can unroot via the app and there will be noticable changes unless you used root to modify but then you can flash a stock firmware
4. They should. Very few apps actualy check for root
5. Rooting does not slow your device
Info can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2775411
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Thank you
Also is there a tweaksbox/Xposed style app for the Z2?
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Almost all Xperia 4.4 xposed/modkits/etc work for any Xperia with 4.4 KK aka Z2 with 4.4
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So I can root without unlocking boot loader, and then just unroot to restore warrenty if/when needed?
I have looked through some threads and a little confused about if the phone has to be downgraded to root? The build number ends in .402, so can I root easily?
Thanks again, I do appreciate you taking the time to help me
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Yes you can root without unlocked boooader as of posting this
You can restore warrenty by removing root
I think you can stay on 402 to root, not sure, look at doomlords thread in original development
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I never ended up rooting my device, but decided now is the time.
I am on 17.1.1.A.0.402
Bootloader is unlockable, but currently locked (and will be staying that way.).
Does anyone know if there is a way I can root it without unlocking bootloader and without downgrading firmware?
Thanks in advance
1iam5mith said:
I never ended up rooting my device, but decided now is the time.
I am on 17.1.1.A.0.402
Bootloader is unlockable, but currently locked (and will be staying that way.).
Does anyone know if there is a way I can root it without unlocking bootloader and without downgrading firmware?
Thanks in advance
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there are root methods in both development sections and general sections
you can also try towelroot
1iam5mith said:
I never ended up rooting my device, but decided now is the time.
I am on 17.1.1.A.0.402
Bootloader is unlockable, but currently locked (and will be staying that way.).
Does anyone know if there is a way I can root it without unlocking bootloader and without downgrading firmware?
Thanks in advance
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yes you can root easily now with locked bl (thanks to all the devs that contributed btw), you can upgrade to .314 and root that easily too, you can then restore ftf to stock and keep warranty. or you can also root, then backup TA, then unlock BL and do whatever you like. you can restore that TA backup later to get locked bl again and restore ftf to stock and keep warranty.
Thanks guys.
Is there any super simple step by step guides for doing this?
1iam5mith said:
Thanks guys.
Is there any super simple step by step guides for doing this?
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these root tools that can be found in XDA have guides within the threads
1iam5mith said:
Thanks guys.
Is there any super simple step by step guides for doing this?
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Before you root, you should read the threads in the dev section as potentially you are unleashing a beast which can brick your device.
I have a Z Ultra GPe running 4.4.4 stock everything never wanted to root until the latest 4.4.4 OTA due to the low speaker volume, I can barely hear the phone ring anymore, I see there is a volume fix but that requires root and that's what I want to do; root.
As far as I understand and please correct me if I'm wrong, there are two ways to root :
1. Unlock bootloader, install dual recovery, change kernel, root.
2. Use towelroot apk to root the phone without modifying bootloader, recovery or kernel
I have seen that many people are facing camera problems when using method 1 due to unlocking the bootloader in addition to not receiving OTA updates after using method 1 (can't wait for Android L OTA)
If I root using method 2 will I avoid facing any camera problems and still receive OTA updates?
If there is another method I don't know about to fix the low volume issue or root my GPe please let me know, most important thing is that my camera is not affected and I continue to receive OTA updates.
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Method 2 is the best way now that we have a root exploit. It wont modify the kernel/boot loader etc so should allow OTAs. As this is not unlocking the BL it shouldn't effect the camera (it is only 4.4.4 that this happened on), and you can back up the TA if you do ever want to unlock the BL. I would do a backup of the TA anyway as it will give you an easy root method should there not be one available on 5.0
in short: should work
Can you please elaborate, I don't know what TA is and why or how to back it up?!
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vivalamoza said:
Can you please elaborate, I don't know what TA is and why or how to back it up?!
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TA - Trim Area, It is where the DRM keys and other things are kept. It looks like this is what is breaking the camera in 4.4.4 with an unlocked BL. If you back up the TA you can restore it and thus relock the bootloader. There is a tool called TA backup linked in one of the stickies in the general section.
If in the future you cant get root to do a TA backup it would be handy to already have one. Then you can unlock the BL, flash supersu, restore TA and have a rooted phone with locked BL (and intact DRM keys)
Thanks, will back up TA and root using towelroot
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blueether said:
TA - Trim Area, It is where the DRM keys and other things are kept. It looks like this is what is breaking the camera in 4.4.4 with an unlocked BL. If you back up the TA you can restore it and thus relock the bootloader. There is a tool called TA backup linked in one of the stickies in the general section.
If in the future you cant get root to do a TA backup it would be handy to already have one. Then you can unlock the BL, flash supersu, restore TA and have a rooted phone with locked BL (and intact DRM keys)
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Sorry this may seem like a stupid question but I want to understand how this works;
If I root my device using the Towelroot exploit and my bootloader is locked and recovery and kernel are stock, will my TA or DRM keys be affected!?
I surely will backup my TA like you advised but I just wanna make sure I understand how it works as I am coming from a Samsung and HTC background so this is all new to me.
and one last question please (sorry for asking so many questions)
Do I root first then backup, or do I backup then root?
vivalamoza said:
Sorry this may seem like a stupid question but I want to understand how this works;
If I root my device using the Towelroot exploit and my bootloader is locked and recovery and kernel are stock, will my TA or DRM keys be affected!?
I surely will backup my TA like you advised but I just wanna make sure I understand how it works as I am coming from a Samsung and HTC background so this is all new to me.
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vivalamoza said:
and one last question please (sorry for asking so many questions)
Do I root first then backup, or do I backup then root?
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You have it right, your TA (hence DRM keys) won't be affected by the root process.
Root then back up the TA partition. You need root to pull the disk image off the phone, that's why GPe users that unlocked/rooted before towelroot are in the position with a buggered camera that seems to be looking for DRM keys.
Thnx again!
This is a bit off topic but will we get an android L update at all now that the z ultra gpe has been pulled from the play store
People are saying that it has reached End of Life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pallavgarg10 said:
This is a bit off topic but will we get an android L update at all now that the z ultra gpe has been pulled from the play store
People are saying that it has reached End of Life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We do not have many fortune tellers here. We should get it, but nothing is sure.
Pallavgarg10 said:
This is a bit off topic but will we get an android L update at all now that the z ultra gpe has been pulled from the play store
People are saying that it has reached End of Life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Z Ultra Gpe released on Dec 13 2013. According to Google Gpe devices "traditionally" are updated for "about" 18 months. There is speculation that Gpe program may be winding down in favor of the "Silver" program. I would expect to see it updated to L but there are no guarantees.
google would be hurting their brand if they pulled updates after only 8 months. Would you buy another google branded phone if they did that, be it GPe or Silver? This is why I cant see them not supporting well in to L
Agree with blueether, Google will probably update the ZU GPE to Android L, but that may be the end of the updates we get
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sadly the only problem i face is i can't root the Z2 cause of the bootloader lock. there are too many mods i want to try but i don't want to unlock the BL. "don't want to lose camera quality nor the noise cancellation".
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really guys ? if you unlock the loader you will lose the x-reality and other stuff ?
Not wholy true
X-Reality, SuperVivid, Bionz and some Xperia apps such as playstation remote play are broken
Camera quality is like 5% worse hence why i dont care
+ you can root with a locked bootloader anyway
The problem is not connected to WiFi
Hi
I opened the boot loader on my phone with build number 167
After opening the boot loader can not connect to my WiFi
What should I do
Maybe you can flash stock rom and locked bt with emma program.
Im not sure, check on google and sony site.
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PRO>KOMP.< said:
Maybe you can flash stock rom and locked bt with emma program.
Im not sure, check on google and sony site.
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Thank you very much, I've tried this method
But did not result
When I want to connect up to his authentication was extremely weak signal
Backing up your TA is one way of not losing them I thought.
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Backing up your TA is one way of not losing them I thought.
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Its the only way i know of that works
Hey Guys,
So I just bought a Z2 with Android 4.4.4, and after a lot of reading I understood that there is no "one click" rooting option for it and that I have to downgrade first and then flash a rooted ROM.
The thing is I checked all the the current threads and they are somewhat very hard to follow through and a little bit made to advanced users
Topics like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/4-4-4-creating-rooted-update-package-t2933155
So sometimes midway they skip a step or dont explain how did they reach there (specially after step 9 in the above tutorial)
I know I am asking too much, but will someone walk me through how to root my locked boot loader phone ?
FW: 23.0.1.a0.167
Thank you very much
There are 2 ways to root
Safe way which is this way which includes downgrading and having to reset your device twice
Or the easy way which is unlocking your bootloader (losing your TA and DRM Dependant features) flashing a custom kernel + recovery
You cant root at all without losing data
Hi mate
I suggest you to try this method first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
It doesn't work for me and if it doesn't work for you too we can talk to the author to support our devices
with my best regards
a.hamameh
Hey Mate , Thank you for your reply
I have tried it but it didnt work, it says my "phone isnt vunerable", I have sent to author waiting his reply.
If you have any other pointers for me that would be great !
a.hamameh96 said:
Hi mate
I suggest you to try this method first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
It doesn't work for me and if it doesn't work for you too we can talk to the author to support our devices
with my best regards
a.hamameh
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I have also the same error now we are sure that our devices are not supported yet I think he needs some informations about the kernel.
I sent him message and I got a reply but he thought that I have 4.4.2.
He told me that he is busy.
I sent another message and I'm waiting his reply.
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Then How to do it even with losing data, but not losing the original FTF ?
Again sorry for being a noob
Envious_Data said:
There are 2 ways to root
Safe way which is this way which includes downgrading and having to reset your device twice
Or the easy way which is unlocking your bootloader (losing your TA and DRM Dependant features) flashing a custom kernel + recovery
You cant root at all without losing data
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hoooka said:
Hey Guys,
So I just bought a Z2 with Android 4.4.4, and after a lot of reading I understood that there is no "one click" rooting option for it and that I have to downgrade first and then flash a rooted ROM.
The thing is I checked all the the current threads and they are somewhat very hard to follow through and a little bit made to advanced users
Topics like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/4-4-4-creating-rooted-update-package-t2933155
So sometimes midway they skip a step or dont explain how did they reach there (specially after step 9 in the above tutorial)
I know I am asking too much, but will someone walk me through how to root my locked boot loader phone ?
FW: 23.0.1.a0.167
Thank you very much
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Its not too complicated, but im sure its 100% safe. The step only required downgrade and then install the pre-rooted rom. If you know how to flash with flashtool, then this is not a big problem. Before you begin, please make sure you understand each step that you gonna do. This is how actually i do.
1. Download all files required(ftf, rooting tools, prf creator, recovery, etc)
2. Make the pre-rooted rom first.(i just skip that step 11)
3. Flash the stock .314
4. Root & recovery it.
5. Insert that pre-rooted ftf that i made early, in my case i also use a stock rom .167
6. Reboot and finish.
I've rooted Xperia Z before and I'm sure it was much easier. I'd like to root my Z2 but it's much more complicated. I mean I know how to use flash tools, but I'm a bit lost when it comes to drm keys. Is it possible to root and unroot if needed so Sony won't know if anything goes wrong ? Does your method involve drm backup?
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ka1eid said:
I've rooted Xperia Z before and I'm sure it was much easier. I'd like to root my Z2 but it's much more complicated. I mean I know how to use flash tools, but I'm a bit lost when it comes to drm keys. Is it possible to root and unroot if needed so Sony won't know if anything goes wrong ? Does your method involve drm backup?
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This method doesnt require to unlock bootloader, its safe. Backup drm key can only be done after u root your device.
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yuskhayru said:
This method doesnt require to unlock bootloader, its safe. Backup drm key can only be done after u root your device.
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So I can root without losing drm? Just making sure.
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ka1eid said:
So I can root without losing drm? Just making sure.
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Sure.
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ka1eid said:
So I can root without losing drm? Just making sure.
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Yes root doesn't harm your DRM keys only unlocking the bootloader will do that and here are so manybthreads howto get root on locked bootloader, just search before posting and read the rules !!
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ka1eid said:
So I can root without losing drm? Just making sure.
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Yes rooting doesn't Unlock your bootloader so no loss of DRM keys. Its theoretically impossible to hard brick a locked boot loader Z2.
Has anyone being able to root their F3213 single sim?
No. We need someone from xda experts to get root on locked bootloader. (f3211)
Victor91rus said:
No. We need someone from xda experts to get root on locked bootloader. (f3211)
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Not gonna happen anytime soon, since dm-verity security was introduced on the z3+ every Xperia since has needed a unlocked bootloader to get root there's also no way to back up ta keys currently either unfortunately. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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aidy.lucas said:
Not gonna happen anytime soon, since dm-verity security was introduced on the z3+ every Xperia since has needed a unlocked bootloader to get root there's also no way to back up ta keys currently either unfortunately. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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Doesn't sony's developement website let you unlock the bootloader?
bimori said:
Doesn't sony's developement website let you unlock the bootloader?
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Yes if it's a sim free network unlocked device not locked down by a network/carrier and its supported by Sony for unlocking. Phones that come locked to one network are usually not bootloader unlockable. I was referring to locked Bootloader root, on mm it looks like it's a thing of the past from now on
*#*#7378423#*#* enter into the dial pad and in software configuration I think it is it will say
Bootloader unlock allowed: yes or no, if it's a yes no problem get the code from Sony via email and unlock(it voids the warranty though), if it's a no you won't be rooting it.
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Yes if it's a sim free network unlocked device not locked down by a network/carrier and its supported by Sony for unlocking. Phones that come locked to one network are usually not bootloader unlockable. I was referring to locked Bootloader root, on mm it looks like it's a thing of the past from now on
*#*#7378423#*#* enter into the dial pad and in software configuration I think it is it will say
Bootloader unlock allowed: yes or no, if it's a yes no problem get the code from Sony via email and unlock(it voids the warranty though), if it's a no you won't be rooting it.
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Ok makes sense. Yeah i have a free sim network one here for the US. Mine says yes. Not sure what i'm doing wrong, but cant get fastboot to show my phone.!
bimori said:
Ok makes sense. Yeah i have a free sim network one here for the US. Mine says yes. Not sure what i'm doing wrong, but cant get fastboot to show my phone.!
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Make sure my Xperia is off and OEM unlock in developer options is on, also once the drm/ta keys are gone on unlocking there's no getting them back as there's no way to back up ta keys currently on our devices before unlocking which is why I'm waiting for now.
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aidy.lucas said:
Not gonna happen anytime soon, since dm-verity security was introduced on the z3+ every Xperia since has needed a unlocked bootloader to get root there's also no way to back up ta keys currently either unfortunately. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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You are almost right. The only part I disagree with its that you said it will not happen any time soon. While dm-verity make it impossible to modify the system and permanently root it, if a proper exploit is found (which happens almost every month) the system can be temporarily rooted. When that happens, the TA partition can be backed up and the bootloader can be unlocked for permanent rooting. That's actually how z3+ is rooted.
najoor said:
You are almost right. The only part I disagree with its that you said it will not happen any time soon. While dm-verity make it impossible to modify the system and permanently root it, if a proper exploit is found (which happens almost every month) the system can be temporarily rooted. When that happens, the TA partition can be backed up and the bootloader can be unlocked for permanent rooting. That's actually how z3+ is rooted.
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You really make me laugh!! Almost one exploit by month ?! The exploit used in Z3+ was discovered in 2014 (the one used by Kingroot) !!! And patched since 3.18 kernel. Since when dm-verity on Marshmallow was beaten without downgrading to an old exploit on Lollipop?? Can you prove me that's possible to dump TA in MM. Answer me just to laugh a little more :good: See you next month for a new exploit
For me aidy.lucas is fully right!
Gift for you: http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2016/03/22/2
And to finish, if someone want XA Ultra single sim root please PM me for private tests. You must have unlocked BL and have enough skills in flashing Xperia devices to help.
Pm sent
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Worked beautifully on my f3213. . Thanks
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F3213 - Bootlooder
Hi,
I purchased a F3213, single sim that was carrier locked, no way of unlocking the bootloader.
So after hours of searching, found a fellow in England who offered me a tool to make the phone bootloader unlock ready.
The Phone now works with another carrier, if i unlock the bootloader will i loose the DRM keys?
ty,
S
SBAKSH2 said:
Hi,
I purchased a F3213, single sim that was carrier locked, no way of unlocking the bootloader.
So after hours of searching, found a fellow in England who offered me a tool to make the phone bootloader unlock ready.
The Phone now works with another carrier, if i unlock the bootloader will i loose the DRM keys?
ty,
S
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Unlocking it to work on a different network still won't make the bootloader unlockable. If it's been locked down by a carrier/network it'll stay locked even if the device will now work on any network.
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aidy.lucas said:
Unlocking it to work on a different network still won't make the bootloader unlockable. If it's been locked down by a carrier/network it'll stay locked even if the device will now work on any network.
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Actually, i double checked it and i can unlock the boot loader too.
SBAKSH2 said:
Actually, i double checked it and i can unlock the boot loader too.
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If you can unlock bootloader, root is possible. Download the rootpack for your model and follow the guide for XA, read comments if needed. Read carefully the "unlock bootloader" part to be aware of what it does.
So if I root my F3213, does this allow me to get rid of all the crapware Sony put on there? Or will I need to flash a custom ROM in order to do that?
Driodl said:
So if I root my F3213, does this allow me to get rid of all the crapware Sony put on there? Or will I need to flash a custom ROM in order to do that?
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You don't need to flash a custom ROM to remove most of the system applications. If you have root you can use Titanium Backup to eliminate those unwanted apps.
I haven't rooted yet and just using the disable function in the settings/apps I've gotten rid of almost everything except the What's New thing. With that I just blocked the notifications and it doesn't bother me.
Hey guys. I have a question. It seems that in sony's android MM version, microsd cards can't be used as internal storage. I had in other rooted phone the Link2SD app just to expand my internal storage. On XA Ultra we get only 10Gb free, no root no unistalling trash apps, sooo, any way to expand it via sdcard until root is available?
AxiK. said:
Hey guys. I have a question. It seems that in sony's android MM version, microsd cards can't be used as internal storage. I had in other rooted phone the Link2SD app just to expand my internal storage. On XA Ultra we get only 10Gb free, no root no unistalling trash apps, sooo, any way to expand it via sdcard until root is available?
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MM have a feature called Adoptable Storage, you can find guide on Xda. Simple way is to use "root essentials" app on rooted device or with ADB command on not rooted device.