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Cant find the rom thread anymore...
Pls dont say its gone again...
Has it gone walkabout again?! Sheesh..
nitrozk posted last night on the theme section, said his black theme wasgoing to ported to Revolution and "Project Honeycomb" was finished. Relevant? Anyone's guess...
Noticed that Bautista's ROM also has disappeared.
Could please someone clear this up??
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Could please someone clear this up??
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2 members. WTF is going on?!
Guys - can you either PM the dev or a mod about this. We've had plenty of threads about stuff going missing recently and unless you're the dev then it's none of your business. Please, keep it out of the forums.
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Guys - can you either PM the dev or a mod about this. We've had plenty of threads about stuff going missing recently and unless you're the dev then it's none of your business. Please, keep it out of the forums.
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Can U be more clear?
lfcorullon said:
Can U be more clear?
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Yes.
DO NOT POST ABOUT THIS - IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
PM the developer if you really feel the need.
nitrozk - the dev - cleared the matter up on another thread.
Hope that helps.
B3311 said:
nitrozk - the dev - cleared the matter up on another thread.
Hope that helps.
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Thank you for your education, B3311!
What Recognized Developer johncmolyneux could look up at you before giving his answers. I am a member of the forum, I am not a developer and I think I have the right to receive an explanation of the disappearance of a topic that I followed.
But if Paul is upset with the situation, who swallow their anger and be more polite to those who do not find clear information about what happens on the board.
If the contents of the forum is not my business, I do not care if I get banned.
But again, thanks B3311!
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Thank you for your education, B3311!
What Recognized Developer johncmolyneux could look up at you before giving his answers. I am a member of the forum, I am not a developer and I think I have the right to receive an explanation of the disappearance of a topic that I followed.
But if Paul is upset with the situation, who swallow their anger and be more polite to those who do not find clear information about what happens on the board.
If the contents of the forum is not my business, I do not care if I get banned.
But again, thanks B3311!
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I may have been short with you, but any regular on this forum will already know that there have been lots of "where has xxxx ROM gone?" threads recently, and the mods themselves have told members that it's not their concern and they should not be creating threads about it.
I'm just sick of seeing the same old rubbish, despite mod requests that it stop. I apologise for being short with you, but I expect users of the forum to follow forum rules.
No offense was meant.
Ok. Thanks too. I'll try another ROM.
But I think the users who follow the threads are deleted deserve some explanations.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
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I may have been short with you, but any regular on this forum will already know that there have been lots of "where has xxxx ROM gone?" threads recently, and the mods themselves have told members that it's not their concern and they should not be creating threads about it.
I'm just sick of seeing the same old rubbish, despite mod requests that it stop. I apologise for being short with you, but I expect users of the forum to follow forum rules.
No offense was meant.
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Fair comments John.
As I discovered - the hard way - a polite question will always get one further than a rant, whine or trolling.
I also try to follow the caveat that any dev or themer can do whatever they like with their work - they owe us nothing.
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Thank you for your education, B3311!
What Recognized Developer johncmolyneux could look up at you before giving his answers. I am a member of the forum, I am not a developer and I think I have the right to receive an explanation of the disappearance of a topic that I followed.
But if Paul is upset with the situation, who swallow their anger and be more polite to those who do not find clear information about what happens on the board.
If the contents of the forum is not my business, I do not care if I get banned.
But again, thanks B3311!
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Press thanks then, haven't had one for a while - I'm insecure and paranoid...
OT and serious - I see your point, but as you can probably infer from my post above, I disagree when you say we "have the right to receive an explanation".
We don't, in my opinion. An explanation is good, and furthers goodwill, but it's not something the "average user" here can demand.
The most popular themes and ROMs here are popular for a reason - updates, information, no trolling etc. The devs/themers that don't do the above - as is their right - will find less interest in their work. Whether they care or not is entirely up to them.
Ok I agree with you.
But I still think that if you are a regular user (like me) and subscribe to a thread, and suddenly, that topic desappears, you will want some explanation. I searched and only found this thread (which was not created by me).
But anyway, thank you! I've found another ROM and I'll test it.
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Ok I agree with you.
But I still think that if you are a regular user (like me) and subscribe to a thread, and suddenly, that topic desappears, you will want some explanation. I searched and only found this thread (which was not created by me).
But anyway, thank you! I've found another ROM and I'll test it.
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Want - of course
Have the right - not for me.
We all move on
Hi all,
I am a liitle bit astonished. Curently I am using "Icecream sunday Final by jusada" on my SGA.........but I miss the original thread for that ROM resp. I can not find it anymore.
Any informatioon what happened?
thx
Nogger
nothing happened to rom..
not available for public anymore so stop asking any further question and look in general forum threads to find out answer of why removed
stop asking this questions
its removed so u cant post stupid questions on thread
team cooper will decide what will they do
madman_amit said:
nothing happened to rom..
not available for public anymore so stop asking any further question and look in general forum threads to find out answer of why removed
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mv_style said:
stop asking this questions
its removed so u cant post stupid questions on thread
team cooper will decide what will they do
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WTH have you not been reading the other thread about rudeness to the devs and now here you are being rude to some one asking a legitimate question in the general section.
And before you reply I dont care if the question has been asked once or a thousand times. he asked and someone should just answer without the tude...
The Rom was deleted by juasada because he felt that people here were being rude and not appreciating what he did. sadly it looks like there will be no continuation of the work he did.
WTH have you not been reading the other thread about rudeness to the devs and now here you are being rude to some one asking a legitimate question in the general section.
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do you see same question on same page being asked and answered??
I never said anything about any dev or complained of something as i knw what it takes to make things work..
xda is not place where someone ask question which is answered many times..
and this question is gonna be asked many a times in near future..just wait
And before you reply I dont care if the question has been asked once or a thousand times. he asked and someone should just answer without the tude...
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if question is asked thousand times then search might be button you want to click and use
madman_amit said:
do you see same question on same page being asked and answered??
I never said anything about any dev or complained of something as i knw what it takes to make things work..
xda is not place where someone ask question which is answered many times..
and this question is gonna be asked many a times in near future..just wait
if question is asked thousand times then search might be button you want to click and use
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how can you say its not a place to ask questions???? xda is a community and a forum. a forum is a place for the asking and answering of questions.
a community are people who work together for the good of all.
as for what i said. its the truth, no complaining its why he left just a fact. if you had just answered the question without the tude then we could be out there helping others instead of wasting our time like this
well it does seems that not only some newbies are rude but others also. You dont have to reprimand someone for the second time around. If someone already did, then you dont have tell him again. its like making him bleed and bleed more. If you have nothing good to say at all then keep it to yourself.
and if u want rom look around who uses it and send PM to him to give u link or upload it by himself
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and if u want rom look around who uses it and send PM to him to give u link or upload it by himself
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PIRACY ?? better use cm7.2.0 which is still there and remove unwanted apps and stuffs
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well it does seems that not only some newbies are rude but others also. You dont have to reprimand someone for the second time around. If someone already did, then you dont have tell him again. its like making him bleed and bleed more. If you have nothing good to say at all then keep it to yourself.
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finally a sane post
So you have a question. We've all had them. In fact, many have had the exact same question you have right now. And most of those questions have already been answered. So please search for those answers before posting a new thread.
Now that the dust has settled with the unlocking, ICS leak, mainver and OTA, most likely there's already a guide written to deal with the exact same issue you want to ask about.
Not only will you get your answer more quickly, you will also keep from cluttering up the message board with yet another thread asking the same thing others have asked and have answered already.
Lately there has been a plethora of new threads asking basic questions that have been answered many times and definitely have guides already written and it gets increasingly frustrating to have to see these over and over again.
So please, search first. Research. Read. And then if you really can't find the answer post in an appropriate existing thead. If there really isn't one, then start a new thread.
Thank you and good night. You've been a great audience.
The worst offenders aren't gonna see this and post anyway. They won't even read stickies usually
Yeah, it's not like it's a brand new forum protocol. *sigh*
Well, I got it out of my system, now I can get on with my day.
con247 said:
The worst offenders aren't gonna see this and post anyway. They won't even read stickies usually
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Jeeze dude, I'm freakin sorry. I wish there was a way you could see my search history so I could prove to you that I had in fact searched for the mainver info before posting my thread, but I simply overlooked you're awesome thread that had exactly what I was interested in.
Honestly the best thing to do is to ignore them. Not post something they won't read
No offense but con is right
Hit thanks or ill hit you
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Honestly the best thing to do is to ignore them. Not post something they won't read
No offense but con is right
Hit thanks or ill hit you
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Of course he is right.
Seriously, there had to be a bunch of people who have just purchased this phone recently. I'm sure the sale that Big Red is having isn't going to help things. I love that people are getting this phone because it's just amazing, but people do need to read everything before they just start posting questions. And they need to read everything before they start flashing crap on their phones. Just because you did it on one phone doesn't mean you'll know what you're doing on this one. Ou S-On, Dev Unlocked Rezound is a different beast altogether.
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Seriously, there had to be a bunch of people who have just purchased this phone recently. I'm sure the sale that Big Red is having isn't going to help things. I love that people are getting this phone because it's just amazing, but people do need to read everything before they just start posting questions. And they need to read everything before they start flashing crap on their phones. Just because you did it on one phone doesn't mean you'll know what you're doing on this one. Ou S-On, Dev Unlocked Rezound is a different beast altogether.
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I came from a Droid X and before I picked up the rezound, figured all android devices were the same! Boy was I wrong This has been a learning curve but in time Ive learned a LOT from reading all of the threads in this forum.I've only had a single mainver error, which was easily remedied. Other than that, I've been a flashaholic for the last 2 weeks trying to find something that feels like home and I still havent bricked my phone . The guys/gals in this forum who post fixes and guides are all badass!
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Jeeze dude, I'm freakin sorry. I wish there was a way you could see my search history so I could prove to you that I had in fact searched for the mainver info before posting my thread, but I simply overlooked you're awesome thread that had exactly what I was interested in.
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Bro I am not calling you out.... I am just saying in general. Plus, my thread wasn't stickied so my post didn't really apply to you.
con247 said:
Bro I am not calling you out.... I am just saying in general. Plus, my thread wasn't stickied so my post didn't really apply to you.
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It's all good man.
The funny part is, I completely agree with you and this thread. I'm actually a little ashamed that I didn't find you're thread originally.
Really though, thanks to you and all the other devs that do all this hard work. I'd really like to be able to spend the time and learn how to do some of the Rom development, or theme dev'ing, or something to contribute. Not in the cards though with a busy job as a software support tech, and a 3 year old and another on the way at home. Time isn't on my side for hobbies like this. So, to get to the point - thanks a lot, much appreciated.
Its actually getting to the point that searching for stuff ends up a waste of time due to the clutter. You know how many threads have something to do with the mainver issue alone in General? Almost a hundred. That is insane. And some people wonder why others get grumpy when they don't use a search function. What would be awesome if we added extra code to the site and when the hit the Start Thread button, it asks them if they did a search.
It will show a list of other threads with the same words in the title, but they aren't just from the Rezound forums. But as con mentioned, the people who don't search aren't going to look at those either.
Bump out of necessity.
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Bump out of necessity.
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look how much you grown in a short time. You've gone from pm'ing everybody looking for answers, to supplying 90% of them.
Congrats!!!
This thread needs the obvious sticky request and a ton of thanks to Feralicious. Hopefully her words will inspire...and if her avatar pic was a bit bigger maybe that would get the newbies to actually read this thread.
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So you have a question. We've all had them. In fact, many have had the exact same question you have right now. And most of those questions have already been answered. So please search for those answers before posting a new thread.
Now that the dust has settled with the unlocking, ICS leak, mainver and OTA, most likely there's already a guide written to deal with the exact same issue you want to ask about.
Not only will you get your answer more quickly, you will also keep from cluttering up the message board with yet another thread asking the same thing others have asked and have answered already.
Lately there has been a plethora of new threads asking basic questions that have been answered many times and definitely have guides already written and it gets increasingly frustrating to have to see these over and over again.
So please, search first. Research. Read. And then if you really can't find the answer post in an appropriate existing thead. If there really isn't one, then start a new thread.
Thank you and good night. You've been a great audience.
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You had me at "plethora". Will you be appearing all week?
feralicious said:
Lately there has been a plethora of new threads asking basic questions that have been answered many times and definitely have guides already written and it gets increasingly frustrating to have to see these over and over again.
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You mean like when there are about 9 different threads going at the same time to tell everybody that "Sense sucks" ???
the only problem is, if your browsing these forums via your rezound, search doesnt work properly. if you tap on the "search" button, once the pop up appears and you try to enter text, the pop up disappears and you cant search. it does that on both dolphin hd & opera. dont recall if ive tried on another browser.... but as it happens on more then 1, its not a problem from one particular browser.
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look how much you grown in a short time. You've gone from pm'ing everybody looking for answers, to supplying 90% of them.
Congrats!!!
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I didn't pm everybody! I was coveting the look of your home screen and didn't want to hijack the thread. But I got my own look now.
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DIncLover said:
You had me at "plethora". Will you be appearing all week?
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Yup. Don't forget to tip your server!
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I have noticed that people in the q and a section are not posting nearly enough information in their post or title to get the information they need. This causes people to ask lots of questions and delay getting the answer they need. So this guide will show you what you need to include in your post to get the most efficient answer to your question.
We'll start with the Title:
- Please do not just say "HALP, PHONE BROKE" or "HELP" , etc.
- You need to be precise, and describe what you're looking for in your thread.
Next, the information you need to state before you even get into asking your question.
- The make of your phone. There are many different variants of your device. I9100 G/M/P/T
- Are you rooted/unrooted?
- What rom you are using? And which version? -and- What kernel are you using? And which version?
- Have you flashed any mods/scripts/themes?
- Have you changed DPI? If yes, to what?
- Have you done anything to try to solve your issue? This would be very valuable information.
- Please (if on stock firmware) dial *#1234# and post the results (thanks to fxrb)
Then you can ask your question.
- Do not ask "What rom/kernel/theme is the best?" -or- Something that you have not searched for (it is infact very obvious if you havent)
- Be specific and precise in what you want/need. Do not write a 10, 000 word essay, or a 3 word question.
- Pictures say a 1000 words
Important things to remember:
- Be polite: People never want to help someone who wont appreciate it, or is rude to them. Remember your p's and q's
- Do not bump your thread: It gets annoying and against the rules
This is under construction and will take a bit to include all of the information needed. I know there are lots of more experienced users than I, and would love feedback of what to include. Please do not hesitate to post in the thread or even PM me with information you think needs to be included in this thread.
Stickies
- DO NOT POST A "What's the best ROM/Kernel/Theme?" THREAD!
- [Newbies][Experienced Users][RCs] New members friendly Q&A thread
- [KERNEL][REF][Q&A] Siyah 5.0+[ICS/CM10] 6.0b5+[JB/CM10.1] +DISCUSSION+. NON-DEV!!!
- Australian AU Galaxy S II (help/rooting/updates,etc)
- SGS2 Canadian Thread (Bell/Virgin/Sasktel/Rogers) Root/Unlock/Firmware/Modems/Mods
- New here? READ THIS THREAD FIRST. What Is Recovery & Download Mode?
- Frequently Asked Questions
One more: That's it
nice this should put an end to all "not understandable" questions out there
saywhatt said:
nice this should put an end to all "not understandable" questions out there
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Hopefully. I'm just hoping people see it and follow it
kilometers4 said:
Hopefully. I'm just hoping people see it and follow it
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The thought is nice... but unless this is stickied (and even then), this thread will fall off the first page, and since the vast majority of n00bs (not new members, but "n00bs" - there's a huge difference) won't search, they won't see it.
Heck, there have been dozens of posts since you posted this that have been terribly short of any information.
But I applaud the thought.
You have to think how them noobs operate.They muck up their phone,stick the symptoms in a google search,and want an answer asap.
So they are not going to spend hours reading rules and stickies or use the search function.
I spent a week reading about stuff for the x10i I had before I decided to do anything to it.That way at least I had half an idea what helpers were talking about when/if I got into trouble.
When I joined this forum the s2 looked a lot more complicated and the forum looked a lot more "vicious"(like give that guy 20xlashes since he didnt do a search).
Its a tough world lol
Sent from my GT-I9100
ctomgee said:
The thought is nice... but unless this is stickied (and even then), this thread will fall off the first page, and since the vast majority of n00bs (not new members, but "n00bs" - there's a huge difference) won't search, they won't see it.
Heck, there have been dozens of posts since you posted this that have been terribly short of any information.
But I applaud the thought.
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Yeah, that's what I'm hoping eventually happens, it gets stickied.
theunderling said:
You have to think how them noobs operate.They muck up their phone,stick the symptoms in a google search,and want an answer asap.
So they are not going to spend hours reading rules and stickies or use the search function.
I spent a week reading about stuff for the x10i I had before I decided to do anything to it.That way at least I had half an idea what helpers were talking about when/if I got into trouble.
When I joined this forum the s2 looked a lot more complicated and the forum looked a lot more "vicious"(like give that guy 20xlashes since he didnt do a search).
Its a tough world lol
Sent from my GT-I9100
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Yea, but we have to try. At least now we have something to guide them to and for the new people to refer to. If we dont at least have a guide for how to get good answers to their questions theirs no standard.. Now there is
Nice thread
hope users follow this
Doubt many people will take notice of this (for a whole host of reasons; don't get me started), but props for trying (thanked OP).
Edit - Oops. Sorry. So used to giving crap threads on here one star I did it to yours accidentally (intended to give it 5).
+1 to search first before posting.
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Doubt many people will take notice of this (for a whole host of reasons; don't get me started), but props for trying (thanked OP).
Edit - Oops. Sorry. So used to giving crap threads on here one star I did it to yours accidentally (intended to give it 5).
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Yeah, but now we have something to refer the horrible q and a posts that have no info to. And dont worry about the rating... it happens
Do you have anything to add to it? It feels like I''m missing something
Oh absolutely. As I said, good that you've tried, I just don't see it making any difference is all. 90% of people who post here are idiots, that won't change.
No, nothing to add. I think you've covered it well.
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Yeah, but now we have something to refer the horrible q and a posts that have no info to. And dont worry about the rating... it happens
Do you have anything to add to it? It feels like I''m missing something
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in relation to search and read before asking questions...
just wanted to share that I've got a nicely setup dualboot with the siyah kernel, RootBox JB 2.1 as my second rom successfully patched with the autopatcher 1.6 and a fully working pdroid. That's it...
Since i have less than 10 posts I cannot thank the developers in their respective threads (at least that's how i get the message). I think this is my 5th post so I guess i never make it to the developers section because i really don't know what questions i can ask and, answers i could give are all answered...
this must be a "new member" problem rather than a n00b one?
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in relation to search and read before asking questions...
just wanted to share that I've got a nicely setup dualboot with the siyah kernel, RootBox JB 2.1 as my second rom successfully patched with the autopatcher 1.6 and a fully working pdroid. That's it...
Since i have less than 10 posts I cannot thank the developers in their respective threads (at least that's how i get the message). I think this is my 5th post so I guess i never make it to the developers section because i really don't know what questions i can ask and, answers i could give are all answered...
this must be a "new member" problem rather than a n00b one?
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Yeah, but don't just get 10 posts just to say "thank you" in the rom Dev section. I van personally say that devs hate this as it clogs up the thread and doesn't add anything to anything. That is why xda has the thanks button, and the devs appreciate that more than saying it. In fact, it you really want to say thank you donate to them. Even if its 1 euro they will be very grateful.
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course not it was kind of a semi-sarcastic post, I have more to say than thanks I spent countless hours reading and learning stuff (in general, it is fun after all!) and as far as this forum is concerned (which is really helpful btw!) it's difficult to then act (for the time being!). Example: Somehow I managed to post in a developer's thread 1-2 months ago, first a problem then I found the solution and posted it myself. I then got PMed by someone asking me for help. Only problem is I never got an email notification in spite of having a thread subscription so I didn't bother to check my PMs. As for donating, absolutely.
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course not it was kind of a semi-sarcastic post, I have more to say than thanks I spent countless hours reading and learning stuff (in general, it is fun after all!) and as far as this forum is concerned (which is really helpful btw!) it's difficult to then act (for the time being!). Example: Somehow I managed to post in a developer's thread 1-2 months ago, first a problem then I found the solution and posted it myself. I then got PMed by someone asking me for help. Only problem is I never got an email notification in spite of having a thread subscription so I didn't bother to check my PMs. As for donating, absolutely.
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OK awesome. I'm used to people who just want to say thanks, so I have to mention something like that. But taking a look at your sign up date, of looks like you might be able to post in the Dev section without having 10 posts. I believe if you signed up before a certain date you don't need the posts. And of looks like you might fit in there. I would try it you never know
Edit: but enough off topic
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just tested again and it seems to work now
thx for letting this off-topic slide
All the best!
Captn
Sadly I agree to everybody believing that this thread will not be read by those who should do so, sorry. However, if by accident just one out of thousand will read it then there will be 'only' 999 bad questions remaining - a small progress.
For this one out of thousand I would like to contribute something to the information section of this thread. For basic information I often ask people to dial *#1234# and post the result. As this thread is in the Galaxy SII forum this should work, at least as long as people are on stock firmware (probably use this conditionally ?).
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Sadly I agree to everybody believing that this thread will not be read by those who should do so, sorry. However, if by accident just one out of thousand will read it then there will be 'only' 999 bad questions remaining - a small progress.
For this one out of thousand I would like to contribute something to the information section of this thread. For basic information I often ask people to dial *#1234# and post the result. As this thread is in the Galaxy SII forum this should work, at least as long as people are on stock firmware (probably use this conditionally ?).
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Yeah, hopefully at least a few new users see this and actually follow it.
And for the code, what information,action will it show? Thank you for posting with more information to add, I truly appreciate it
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Got my S3 recently, currently running Omega.
I have backed up the system through ROM Manager, and just want to check what I would lose (if anything) if I restored from the back up?
The only things I would really bother about are SMS history and Whatsapp history. I know I can back these up elsewhere, but just wondering if they would be included anyway.
What about mp3s?
What about saved log ins for dropbox, facebook, shopping apps?
Cheers.
Why not read the app instructions?
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Why not read the app instructions?
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You mean the instruction on the store, the developer's website, or the instructions within the app itself?
You know what? Nothing in any of those places answered my question.
Thanks for trying though, kid.
I wasn't trying, just pointing out the blindingly obvious.
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I wasn't trying, just pointing out the blindingly obvious.
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Your response was absolutely useless as per my previous post.
Obvious, yes. Wrong, also yes.
0 for 1, kid. As I said, thanks for the effort.
You need to work on your offensive subtlety, your immature irritation and need to 'win' a pointless confrontation is too obvious.
I'm happy to help people who genuinely need assistance, you just need to spend 5 minutes searching and reading.
You're terminology isn't helping. "the system" vs "system" gives 2 completely opposite answers.
Please follow the link in my signature to general > Sticky roll-up thread. There, read "understanding the basics before rooting". This will explain in detail why this is so important.
Also, please refrain from calling people "kid". This is a developers forum so please treat people with respect. The attitude displayed in this thread today is unlikely to do you any favours or get you "help" in the future.
For What it's worth, I would avoid ROM manager and learn to use recovery directly. It will help you to know how to use recovery when you're in trouble and cannot get to ROM manager... This may save your skin.