Opinions About G3 Wanted - Verizon LG G3

Hello all,
I am considering doing a phone swap with a friend where I would get an LG G3 in place of my HTC One M8. I went with the M8 because it could be rooted and custom rom'ed. I am a VZW unlimited account, using hotspot.
While I like the M8 well enough, I really wish it had a removable battery, the camera isn't great, and the phone is a little too tall for my taste. The speakers are pretty nice though.
I am looking for opinions about the G3, looks like now I can get root and install custom roms, so hotspot should be do able. Sizewise I know these two phones are very close.
1. How is battery life?
2. How do you like the camera?
3. How is the speaker? I use it some for watching slingbox
4. How is bluetooth? I do a ton of bluetooth headphone use, phone and music/podcast. I run it connected all day
5. I have a job where I have to run a case on the phone, how hard are the buttons to use if you have a case on? I guess this does the knocking on the screen, I don't really adjust headphone volume with buttons on the phone anyway.
6. If you happen to be rooted/rom'ed how is the performance/battery life.
7. After a little time how do you like the screen? What I hear is that these QHD's do drain the battery
Thanks so much for your opinions!

wonderrx said:
Hello all,
I am considering doing a phone swap with a friend where I would get an LG G3 in place of my HTC One M8. I went with the M8 because it could be rooted and custom rom'ed. I am a VZW unlimited account, using hotspot.
While I like the M8 well enough, I really wish it had a removable battery, the camera isn't great, and the phone is a little too tall for my taste. The speakers are pretty nice though.
I am looking for opinions about the G3, looks like now I can get root and install custom roms, so hotspot should be do able. Sizewise I know these two phones are very close.
1. How is battery life?
2. How do you like the camera?
3. How is the speaker? I use it some for watching slingbox
4. How is bluetooth? I do a ton of bluetooth headphone use, phone and music/podcast. I run it connected all day
5. I have a job where I have to run a case on the phone, how hard are the buttons to use if you have a case on? I guess this does the knocking on the screen, I don't really adjust headphone volume with buttons on the phone anyway.
6. If you happen to be rooted/rom'ed how is the performance/battery life.
7. After a little time how do you like the screen? What I hear is that these QHD's do drain the battery
Thanks so much for your opinions!
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1. Battery life is good. I have no problem making it through the day.
2. Camera is excellent. It's one of the reasons I got rid of my M8.
3. Speaker is okay, but not as good as the M8.
4. Bluetooth is fine.
5. Buttons are easy enough to get to, with a case.
6. Running Lollipop, and performance is excellent.
7. Absolutely love this screen.
This phone is an absolute beast, now that it's unlocked. I like it way better than the M8.

Thank you spotmark for a great reply!
I assume you are running a CM based 5.0 rom? Flashing it to my Nexus 10 as we type...

I had the M8 and couldn't wait to get rid of it. I've never hated a phone so much. It was much bigger than needed, I didn't use the speakers enough to warrant the huge size and the rest of the h/w was mediocre at best.
Love everything about the G3. I don't use it much so can easily go 3-4 days on a charge. If you're on it all day long, then you may finish the day on a charge.

Thanks Colchiro, I don't mind the M8 a bunch, but the G3 seems to have more going for it, reading specs online now, looks like they are exactly the same height, with the G3 being wider, with much more screen real estate.
The speakers are good, and I use them about 15 minutes a day, but that's not a great enough reason to keep it.

wonderrx said:
Thank you spotmark for a great reply!
I assume you are running a CM based 5.0 rom? Flashing it to my Nexus 10 as we type...
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Yeah, I'm running Validus, great ROM. Lollipop is so sweet, that I don't mind being without my Xposed mods.

Sorry, I was mistaken, it was the 6" One Max that I owned. I returned it within 10 days of receiving it.

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Yeah, I'm running Validus, great ROM. Lollipop is so sweet, that I don't mind being without my Xposed mods.
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Camera and everything works pretty close to stock? Quality of the camera go down any without the stock OS?
Where does the speaker come from on the phone? Is it out of the top where ear piece is? Or is it on the back?

wonderrx said:
Camera and everything works pretty close to stock? Quality of the camera go down any without the stock OS?
Where does the speaker come from on the phone? Is it out of the top where ear piece is? Or is it on the back?
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I use camera FV-5, I think it looks just as good. The speaker is on the back. If I were you, I'd make the trade with your buddy, before he changes his mind.

I don't know what software version the G3 will be on. Am I going to have any difficulty to get it rooted and then push the custom recovery to it depending on which software version it is?

spotmark said:
1. Battery life is good. I have no problem making it through the day.
2. Camera is excellent. It's one of the reasons I got rid of my M8.
3. Speaker is okay, but not as good as the M8.
4. Bluetooth is fine.
5. Buttons are easy enough to get to, with a case.
6. Running Lollipop, and performance is excellent.
7. Absolutely love this screen.
This phone is an absolute beast, now that it's unlocked. I like it way better than the M8.
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I agree with everything said here but battery life I could get much more from both the gs5 and the HTC m8.
The screen doesn't get as bright as others but personally I never run over 75% brightness.

kameleongt said:
I agree with everything said here but battery life I could get much more from both the gs5 and the HTC m8.
The screen doesn't get as bright as others but personally I never run over 75% brightness.
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Thanks for the feedback, not so worried about battery if I can switch the batteries at will.

Looking for more feedback about the screen, brightness, quality, I use it a little in the sun, how the screen has aged. Thanks!

I used lux and it made a huge difference in my screen brightness. Looked way better than using the stock auto brightness setting!!

Stepdaughter has the m8, tmobile one, so she has removable battery. Both phones are good. Let's be honest, nowadays it's hard to put one phone over another as they are so close in specs/year.
I honestly can't see a huge difference in screen from my QHD screen to the htc. Both look phenomenal.
Battery life isn't all that good on the m8, but my stepdaughter has a lot of useless bloat crap on her phone and Facebook messages everyone and I swear it kills her battery life. I get close to 4 hours sot and about 18 hours before plugging in.
Have no issues with a case. I generally use the Unicorn Bettle Supacase which has total coverage and everything works fine.
Sound is okay on g3, but m8 trumps it.
Bluetooth works fine on both.
In the end, it's preference. Both good phones, with this better than the other and vice versa, but small victories really.
Oh, big one for me is the screen size to bezel ratio much better on g3. M8 is a big phone due to speakers.
Good luck

wonderrx said:
Hello all,
I am considering doing a phone swap with a friend where I would get an LG G3 in place of my HTC One M8. I went with the M8 because it could be rooted and custom rom'ed. I am a VZW unlimited account, using hotspot.
While I like the M8 well enough, I really wish it had a removable battery, the camera isn't great, and the phone is a little too tall for my taste. The speakers are pretty nice though.
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Well, I'd say the M8 is taller than the g3, but not by much.
From what I can tell, the G3 looks wider than the M8, but to me, it doesn't feel so wide. The curved back I think helps with giving that feeling that the phone is not too big in your hands.
I've never owned the M8, but I've seen it in stores and just didn't like the looks of it aesthetically. It just looked too industrial for me and almost iPhonish in it's shape.
I fell in love with the G3 as soon as I turned it on at the store and started playing with it. When I got home, I immediately came here to do research on it: can it be rooted, can I flash custom ROMs with custom kernels (not just stock kernels), what is the dev support like, etc.
Once I came into these forums and read, within an hour I was hooked and upgraded to get it. Not sad at all that I moved away from my unlocked RAZR HD (XT926). Yeah, it had an unlocked bootloader, but I also wanted a phone that was slated to get Lollipop, and since this phone just came out in July, 2014, I knew it would be slated for Lollipop and hopefully, by the time it came out, LP would be stable for it.
Also, with this phone being relatively new and seeing the amount of dev support it already has, I knew this was a phone to keep for a long time.
Definitely worth getting if you can. Hopefully, it's the 32gb version so that you have 3gb of memory. The 16gb version only gives you 2gb of memory for running your apps.

Thanks for the latest replies and opinions!
What has everyone's experience been with Verizon reception with the phone? I don't think the M8 is a great antenna phone, seems like my wife always has better reception and LTE when I don't on her iphone 5s.

wonderrx said:
Thanks for the latest replies and opinions!
What has everyone's experience been with Verizon reception with the phone? I don't think the M8 is a great antenna phone, seems like my wife always has better reception and LTE when I don't on her iphone 5s.
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I came from a Verizon G2 and have found the G3s radios to be in general superior to it. Insufficient data on the M8 as I've never owned one of those. I have issues with my device, solely based on where I work (interior of a structure with large quantities of rebar, concrete, and steel) so I get mixed 3G/LTE coverage all day. Even having said that, I generally leave the job site with about 60% of my battery left with moderate usage (and BT connection with my Moto 360 on all day)
The G3 is a great phone...I'd have no hesitation in suggesting its superior in most ways that matter to the common user than the M8. Just having the option to hot swap a battery on the fly makes the G3 in my book the clear winner. Plus the white with black screen is dead sexay.

Except, you cannot really hot swap a battery on the fly with an LG G3. If you plug in a charger then remove the low battery to replace it with a fully charged one, the phone immediately alerts that the battery is missing and shuts down.
My old VGNexus phones would work fine while plugged in with no battery, so I could hot-swap, but not the G3.

trent999 said:
Except, you cannot really hot swap a battery on the fly with an LG G3. If you plug in a charger then remove the low battery to replace it with a fully charged one, the phone immediately alerts that the battery is missing and shuts down.
My old VGNexus phones would work fine while plugged in with no battery, so I could hot-swap, but not the G3.
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it takes only like 5 seconds to boot up ...
i swapped a note 3 fo rthis g3
not looking back

Related

A couple of pre-purchase questions

Like many I am waffling between the Hercules and the Amaze. I really like the Amaze. It is a great looking phone and I like Sense 3.0 (looking forward to 3.5). The biggest thing holding me back from pulling the trigger on the Amaze (besides the fact that it isn't actually out yet on Telus) is the seemingly widespread reports of poor battery life.
First question: Is the poor battery life universal or is it only some people who are experiencing it while others are getting good battery life?
Second question-kind of a strange one. I mount my phone in my car with a holder which squeezes the phone from the sides to hold it. My concern is that with the usb on the side it cannot be plugged in while in the holder. Also, I am concerned that the holder will squeeze against the camera buttons and activate the camera. Does anyone have one of these types of phone mounts and does it work ok with this phone?
Thanks
Nobody has on opinon?
I've had mine for 5 days now, so I'll help out.
- Battery life is horrible. If you text a lot, your battery will drain faster than I've ever seen in my long life of Android phones. Not to mention taking pics, streaming stuff, checking email, etc... It's awful.
- Camera is good, but not amazing as people would have us believe. It's definitely better than anything out at the moment, but I have a feeling the Galaxy Nexus camera is superior to this one, even at 5mp.
- Having issues with my soft buttons. They don't light up when they should (touch the screen). They only stay on occassionally when unlocking the phone, but it's random, doesn't always work. Hard to navigate in the dark when they don't light up.
- Laggy. Like, really laggy. The Sense is nice, but it is 3.0 with no guarantees of getting 3.5 The cosmetics of Sense really bog this down, even with the dual core processor. I get irritated with lag on these Android phones, and this is no different than the others.
My advice, wait. The Galaxy Nexus is coming to T-Mobile according to my source at Samsung, who just happens to be very high up in corporate in regards to the Samsung/T-Mobile relationship. Be patient and don't waste money/extend the contract when the best phone to date is coming out very soon. I'm returning my Amaze in a couple days.
Battery life - Use juice defender Ultimate + SetCPU. Get HTC Evo 3D or HTC Sensation 1900mAH battery
Camera - Arguably the best on android
Soft Buttons - Works just fine here. Light up in the dark. Stays off in bright environment
Lag - Absolutely no lag. Dual core processor + 1GB RAM. This is not HTC Hero, It's the Amaze
Galaxy nexus - Hmmmm, a great device. Should you wait? that's up to you mate.
I'll just comment on battery life, mine hasn't been that bad at all, I routinely get through a full day without needing a charge. I use JuiceDefender, but other than that I don't change too much.
Thanks for your replies. As for battery, I'd like to get a full day (charge overnight, not have to recharge til next night) out of my phone without having to jump through hoops to make it possible.
As for Nexus, who knows if Telus will ever get it. The haven't exactly been leading the pack with getting the latest phones.
Any issue with accidentally triggering the camera with the side buttons?
It does not matter which you get, dual core devices eats battery.
spiz516 said:
My advice, wait. The Galaxy Nexus is coming to T-Mobile according to my source at Samsung, who just happens to be very high up in corporate in regards to the Samsung/T-Mobile relationship. Be patient and don't waste money/extend the contract when the best phone to date is coming out very soon. I'm returning my Amaze in a couple days.
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It's because you don't have a source at HTC. That's what makes you a fan boy. Battery is about the same as long as it runs the same course of use. Really. Then again, that rumor is coming from a unreliable source. You! Let me hear your long Android history. I bet I got you beat hands down.
Sense 3.0 is much more responsive than Touch Wiz 4.0. How do I know this? I spend about 30+ hours in a T-Mobile show room a week. That's weird. Do I randomly through out the day try to load the same webpages on both phones? Yes. Does the HTC load full sites faster than the SGSII consistently? Yes. Have I carefully watched the battery and repeated the exact same tasks on both devices? Yes. Is the battery that much far off? No.
So is the battery life going to be that much better? Is it going to be significant enough to wait and get the Samsung Nexus? Probably not.
marleyfan61 said:
Any issue with accidentally triggering the camera with the side buttons?
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Haven't had it happen so far, and doubt it will with the way the buttons are made.
thoseareZs said:
Haven't had it happen so far, and doubt it will with the way the buttons are made.
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I hold my phone with my right hand so the buttons are kind of awkward, where my thumb would normally go but I've adapted. They have to be held for a bit before they are triggered so I've never accidentally triggered it.
Spovik said:
I hold my phone with my right hand so the buttons are kind of awkward, where my thumb would normally go but I've adapted. They have to be held for a bit before they are triggered so I've never accidentally triggered it.
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As I stated in my first post, I'm more concerned with the car phone holder pressing against the buttons. I guess nobody else uses one of those. I'll have to bring the holder in with me and try it I guess.
Thanks for everyone's replies.
I have one of those types of car holders and don't have an issue with triggering the camera or charging the phone.
Can't comment on battery life yet, just got it Friday.
Do you happen to have a pic of your holder or the make/model? I don't know anyone who's used a side grip-style for a long time so I can't picture it.
I'm planning on getting an Arkon Slim Grip eventually and with the adjustable feet, it should work fine for any phone.
spiz516 said:
I've had mine for 5 days now, so I'll help out.
- Battery life is horrible. If you text a lot, your battery will drain faster than I've ever seen in my long life of Android phones. Not to mention taking pics, streaming stuff, checking email, etc... It's awful.
- Camera is good, but not amazing as people would have us believe. It's definitely better than anything out at the moment, but I have a feeling the Galaxy Nexus camera is superior to this one, even at 5mp.
- Having issues with my soft buttons. They don't light up when they should (touch the screen). They only stay on occassionally when unlocking the phone, but it's random, doesn't always work. Hard to navigate in the dark when they don't light up.
- Laggy. Like, really laggy. The Sense is nice, but it is 3.0 with no guarantees of getting 3.5 The cosmetics of Sense really bog this down, even with the dual core processor. I get irritated with lag on these Android phones, and this is no different than the others.
My advice, wait. The Galaxy Nexus is coming to T-Mobile according to my source at Samsung, who just happens to be very high up in corporate in regards to the Samsung/T-Mobile relationship. Be patient and don't waste money/extend the contract when the best phone to date is coming out very soon. I'm returning my Amaze in a couple days.
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You got a lemon. My experience since launch day has been the EXACT opposite of what you just posted.
Battery=good
Camera=awesome (look into your settings)
Soft buttons=awesome. BEtter than my old Vibrant
Lag=none, not even when stock un-rooted
Your "source" means nothing.
Spovik said:
Do you happen to have a pic of your holder or the make/model? I don't know anyone who's used a side grip-style for a long time so I can't picture it.
I'm planning on getting an Arkon Slim Grip eventually and with the adjustable feet, it should work fine for any phone.
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This is the one I have - arkon(com)/megagrip/megagrip-windshield-car-mount.html
Liking that slim grip you posted though. Might replace mine with that.

[Q] Verizon LG G3 common issues?

I'm in love with the LG G3, it's specs are AWESOME... but... In the past I had the Verizon LG G2 and it was great but it's pretty know for it's screen to die... So, I have a great offer for a Verizon LG G3 but I would like to know if you would recommend it and if you could tell some common issues with this version.
THANKS!
adresordeix said:
I'm in love with the LG G3, it's specs are AWESOME... but... In the past I had the Verizon LG G2 and it was great but it's pretty know for it's screen to die... So, I have a great offer for a Verizon LG G3 but I would like to know if you would recommend it and if you could tell some common issues with this version.
THANKS!
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AFAIK The main issues are with call quality on some Verizon G3's. I myself have experienced it and is rather annoying having to hold my phone a certain way for the other person to be able to make out what Im saying. My hope is that it is fixed with a future update.
Second, is the AUX in issue. The G3 uses a new way for the phone to discern whether you have a pair of headphones plugged in or an AUX cord. It is very picky about the type of AUX cords it uses and NO fixes have come other than a few workarounds. Running a custom rom did help a lot but i still run into problems playing music in my car every once in a while...
Lastly, is GPS not locking. This isn't one that a lot of people have but I cannot get a lock on my phone for the life of me running either stock or custom ROM.
Also, some people swear that the G3 screen sharpening is an issue. I personally cannot tell the difference but it does bother some people...
You can search for all these issues and find threads on them here on xda (minus the GPS)
Other than that, there aren't really any other issues that plague the G3. It's one of only a few flagship phones in which you can unlock the bootloader and have custom rom's and recovery on that lets you take advantage of the specs without having to use LG's skin but even stock it is an awesome phone with good battery life and very snappy. The camera is top notch and the screen is beautiful when you watch 1440p/1080p videos that take advantage of the resolution.... and not to mention is one sexy ass phone!
I personally recommend it and hope my issues are fixed in time with updates and/or the wonderful developers working it all out.
It seems to be rare, but some of us also have a yellow tint at the bottom of our screens when the phone gets hot. I've read speculation that it is glue that didn't fully cure. I don't see it all the time. It just happens when the phone gets really warm. When it cools, it goes back to normal. I've talked to a few other people who have it too. I've never exchanged it because I don't always see it.
No issues.
Fixed the thermal throttling and everything is good.
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No issues.
Fixed the thermal throttling and everything is good.
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How did you do that
My only complaint about the phone is the fact that the speaker is on the back rather than on the front. It had to be on the back to give the phone it's small footprint (small bezels), but having speakers on the front certainly improves sound quality. It bothers me when I'm watching a movie, but I can live with it. I love everything else about the phone.
I know some people have the AUX issue. However I believe it can be avoided/minimized by plugging the phone into a device that is already powered up. Personally I have never seen it, but I don't plug my phone into a great number of devices (my wife's car radio sometimes is all).

[Q] Which phone to upgrade to before end of year?

I want to take advantage of being able to upgrade my DNA at no cost to me, so I need to do that by the end of this year. The company is switching to employee purchase of phones starting next year. I'm on Verizon. Looking for recommendations from those that have switched, or are contemplating a switch soon. I've primarily been looking at the Turbo, LG G3, and One M8. I've been on HTC devices, so am comfortable/familiar with Sense, and currently running a One based ROM on my DNA. I'm also fond of the wireless charging options, but don't know if a lack of it is enough to rule a particular phone out. Being able to root is a plus. Also leaning to a replaceable battery being a plus as well. Wife recently picked up a Note 4. I'll look at it some more, but that seems almost too big.
Is anyone aware of any new devices due out this month? If not, what is your favorite option today and why?
Thanks!
I just got the Note 4 and love it!!
Also came from the DNA and I can tell you, you'll be very pleased with the battery life!!
I was also considering the new Nexus device but since it isn't on VZW yet and I didn't want to wait with my DNA screen shattered I went with the Note 4 and I'm definitely not disappointed.
The Droid Turbo was released not too long ago, and I'm really leaning towards it for my contract upgrade in a couple of weeks. It's still an internal battery unfortunately, but what caught my attention was it having nearly twice the capacity of the DNA. Since I have to charge my DNA halfway through the day, I'd be more than satisfied with the Turbo's battery life. Plus, it has some beefy specs as well. Camera has been reported to have some trouble with delay, but that might be corrected in a software update.
I did a little more reading last night and am starting to lean towards the LG G3. A little smaller than the Note 4 which is a good thing. Replaceable battery, rootable, and with a $10 hack can be changed to Qi wireless charging. I need to go spend some hands on time with it in the store. I've considered the Turbo as well, but with the reported camera issues, and some reporting earpiece volume issues, I just find myself questioning Motorola's product testing if they send these issues out with a hope to fix them later in a software update.
starscream86 said:
I just got the Note 4 and love it!!
Also came from the DNA and I can tell you, you'll be very pleased with the battery life!!
I was also considering the new Nexus device but since it isn't on VZW yet and I didn't want to wait with my DNA screen shattered I went with the Note 4 and I'm definitely not disappointed.
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Hmm, I'm now thinking about the Note 4 as well due to its camera features and the S-pen. So, when you say pleased with the battery life...how pleased are we talking? I guess getting through the day wouldn't be nearly as much a problem as it is sometimes with the DNA?
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Hmm, I'm now thinking about the Note 4 as well due to its camera features and the S-pen. So, when you say pleased with the battery life...how pleased are we talking? I guess getting through the day wouldn't be nearly as much a problem as it is sometimes with the DNA?
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I don't know about you but toward the end of my 2 years on the DNA I'd have to plug my phone in after about 5-6hrs of moderate use or it was flat dead!
So far with the Note 4 I've actually managed 2 full days on one charge a couple times.. Keeping in mind it's a new phone so I'm playing on it a lot!
Also the fast charge is awesome! I have had it go from 50% to a full charge in about 15 minutes on the charger! (that's only using the included "adaptive fast charger" from Samsung)
The S-pen is cool! I felt like it might be one of those things that lost its "cool factor" once I played with it enough but I keep finding new useful reasons pull it out.. Easily screenshoting and cropping an Instagram post using the Screen Write function for example.
Or more obvious things like quickly jotting down a number or reminder. Which are a lot more useful and easy than I had though they would be.
The chances of getting a fully functional ROOT seem far out if it ever happens.. So that's a bit of a downside. But I can say this is the first phone I've had that I wasn't just dying to root. I honestly have very little reason to root it other than getting Lollipop before VZW and Samsung get it on the update manager.
The phone is big! I will say that.. Probably one of the only things I've had issues with is one handed typing. But I'm getting use to it. It can be very difficult stretching that thumb up to reach things with one hand but I guess that's the price we pay for a large screen. Which is a beautiful display by the way... Both cameras rock too! It's packed with fx, filters and neat camera features that are a lot of fun.
Anyway I hope you are happy with whatever you get! I did talk to a guy over the weekend who has LG G3 and he told me he "hates it" although he couldn't really tell me why.. Haha I haven't played with one but they seem pretty comparable
By the way I thought I'd share that when I got home and started typing this my battery was at 56% (after a full day of pretty heavy use) and in the time it's taken me to type this up (on the phone via tapatalk) while plugged into the fast charger I'm up to 72%
Just thought I'd share an update, in case the op might be still deciding.
I opted for the Note 4. Got it in the mail yesterday, and so far I'm very impressed! It's not as hard to handle as I thought it'd be due to its size. I have yet to give the battery a good test, gotta break it in and actually do a near full run-down, since I had it plugged in most of the day yesterday. But this display is absolutely gorgeous! Don't think I'll be using the s-pen much, but who knows, maybe I'll find more use for it further down the road. I also enjoy using the finger print scanner; I find it quicker to unlock. At times it's frustrating that it doesn't work, but that's because I'm not being precise enough.
Thought I'd share my first impressions. Thanks for the input starscream!
Guess I should've come back to update this. I wound up getting the LG G3 a week ago. Already rooted and installed Skydragon ROM and love it. I also purchased the sticker for the battery door that changes it from NFC only to NFC plus wireless charging. Battery life has been great, and I like the knock knock option for turning on the screen. Transition from my DNA to the G3 has been easy.
Appreciate the suggestions and feedback from everyone!

Fellow nerds, what are you thoughts on HTC 10?

I've had my fair share of smartphones, all with ups and downs, but I'd like to think that the 10 is pretty close to being the perfect phone. I want to know what you guys think, as fellow owners. I'll give you a rundown of my most recent phones that I'm comparing to.
Nexus 6p
Nexus 5x
Galaxy s7
Moto X Pure
Droid Turbo 2
Droid Turbo
Thanks for your input!! [emoji16]
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I should also mention that I've got mine rooted, (thanks @jcase!) along with my unlimited data.
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charklos said:
I should also mention that I've got mine rooted, (thanks @jcase!) along with my unlimited data.
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I enjoy the phone, dev scene should go up soon with our next. Sunshine release
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I enjoy the phone, dev scene should go up soon with our next. Sunshine release
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Sounds promising!! I can't wait to free my phone!!
Sent from my phone, autocorrect may have "helped" me
Being away from the android market for some time now the m9 be my return phone and 10 my current I'd say it's pretty solid. Androids come a long way since the early days.
In case you can't see below signature, I've had a handful of HTC handsets since the Incredible and tested still more. The 10 is the best they've ever put out. I'm finding it snappy; love the sound with headphones and don't mind the loss of stereo via the speaker. I don't know how I lived without a fingerprint scanner and I have always been partial to hardware buttons. I've never tried a Nexus both because they aren't always available for Verizon and they never take removable storage which is a deal breaker for me.
My first smartphone was the droid eris and i only purchased it because it was able to be s-off'ed. Then i upgraded to htc incredible 2 which was quite an upgrade, then i jumped to the SGS III. Then i bought the M8 which was a good phone, but had such a horrible camera. I think HTC nailed this phone and i never thought how much i love the fingerprint scanner. Never been a fan of encrypting a phone, but how its default now. I have to say its going pretty well. Now that sunshine has been updated to allow unlocking without mail in, I think the development will get even better. I can't wait to flash a AOSP ROM.
I'm loving it. It's definitely a step up from the m9 in my opinion. Better battery life, screen and camera. My only complaints are about the keyboard (screw TouchPal) and the audio isn't quite as loud as the m9.
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Best phone I've ever owned. Best unlocked bootloader currently available. With expandable storage, it's even preferable to the new HTC Nexus Marlin, in my opinion.
Major cons: screen is C-grade. Maybe C+. It's not very bright, and mine has a reddish tint. Also the phone isn't as loud as I'd wish.
Major pros: best unlocked phone available. Expandable storage. Great metal unibody. Great design all around. Great sound quality.
Truly, truly the best phone I've owned in my personal opinion. I thought the Nexus 6P was fantastic until I got the HTC 10; and although the Nexus 6P is obviously cheaper, the difference in quality had me quite in shock. Only complaint is the abysmal speaker volume, miss the boomsound from the M8.
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Best phone I've ever owned. Best unlocked bootloader currently available. With expandable storage, it's even preferable to the new HTC Nexus Marlin, in my opinion.
Major cons: screen is C-grade. Maybe C+. It's not very bright, and mine has a reddish tint. Also the phone isn't as loud as I'd wish.
Major pros: best unlocked phone available. Expandable storage. Great metal unibody. Great design all around. Great sound quality.
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You can manually change the screen temperature settings.
Settings>Display, gestures & buttons>Color Profile.
I agree with you on the volume level though.
I started out as one of the biggest defenders of this phone but I've slowly been disappointed due to a few quirks listed below. However, it still stands as a fantastic phone. It's proven to me that Android has matured to the point I don't need root and custom ROMS.
- Polarized LCD Panel: Sharp but still washed out next to AMOLED. Also can't see it with my polarized shades on.
- SD Card Mount Issues: I have a 200gb microSD. I've replaced both the phone and the SD card. Still get unmount need to reformat errors which are incredibly annoying to deal with when I have 140gb of music locally.
- Random slowdowns: Happening more and more frequently where I have to start going in and force stopping apps and rebooting the entire phone.
- Screen Randomly Waking: I've had so many butt dials and funky texts sent out to people because this will wake up in my pocket even after I've completely disabled touch to wake.
- Dropped Signal: I'll have to randomly switch off both Cell and WiFi to get signal sometimes
- Android Auto: It just won't work some days. Works just fine with other USB C phones.
- Sexiness: Yeah, maybe I'm shallow but I don't think this is nearly as clean as the M7 was. It's still a great looking phone but after putting it in a very thin, clear TPU case it really lost its value. Coming from a Droid Turbo that never needed a case this was a big thing. My work iPhone 6S in the identical case still maintains a great look.
- AOSP Support: This will come, however, I'd like to have it be more supported. For this reason alone I think I'll hold off on BL unlock and sell the device for the new Pixel phone.
Battery: Not awful by any means but also not great. QC, though, is a god send.
I have not BL unlocked the device but I'm simply waiting only due to the new Pixel phones releasing next month as I may just sell and upgrade to one of those. It's kind of unfair to compare this unrooted device to my BL unlocked Droid Turbo but with custom software that SD805 phone was about 90% as fast as this device while feeling better in the hand and better battery life to boot. In hindsight, I should have held on to that longer and waited for the Pixel to upgrade.
I sound like I'm really dragging the phone down but I'm still a, mostly, happy user
What do you mean that QC is a godsend. Would love to improve my phone's battery life.
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What do you mean that QC is a godsend. Would love to improve my phone's battery life.
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I think he is referring to the QC quick charge 3.0
pjd2011 said:
I started out as one of the biggest defenders of this phone but I've slowly been disappointed due to a few quirks listed below. However, it still stands as a fantastic phone. It's proven to me that Android has matured to the point I don't need root and custom ROMS.
- Polarized LCD Panel: Sharp but still washed out next to AMOLED. Also can't see it with my polarized shades on.
- SD Card Mount Issues: I have a 200gb microSD. I've replaced both the phone and the SD card. Still get unmount need to reformat errors which are incredibly annoying to deal with when I have 140gb of music locally.
- Random slowdowns: Happening more and more frequently where I have to start going in and force stopping apps and rebooting the entire phone.
- Screen Randomly Waking: I've had so many butt dials and funky texts sent out to people because this will wake up in my pocket even after I've completely disabled touch to wake.
- Dropped Signal: I'll have to randomly switch off both Cell and WiFi to get signal sometimes
- Android Auto: It just won't work some days. Works just fine with other USB C phones.
- Sexiness: Yeah, maybe I'm shallow but I don't think this is nearly as clean as the M7 was. It's still a great looking phone but after putting it in a very thin, clear TPU case it really lost its value. Coming from a Droid Turbo that never needed a case this was a big thing. My work iPhone 6S in the identical case still maintains a great look.
- AOSP Support: This will come, however, I'd like to have it be more supported. For this reason alone I think I'll hold off on BL unlock and sell the device for the new Pixel phone.
Battery: Not awful by any means but also not great. QC, though, is a god send.
I have not BL unlocked the device but I'm simply waiting only due to the new Pixel phones releasing next month as I may just sell and upgrade to one of those. It's kind of unfair to compare this unrooted device to my BL unlocked Droid Turbo but with custom software that SD805 phone was about 90% as fast as this device while feeling better in the hand and better battery life to boot. In hindsight, I should have held on to that longer and waited for the Pixel to upgrade.
I sound like I'm really dragging the phone down but I'm still a, mostly, happy user
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- Polarized LCD Panel: it's part of the LCD tech. Only alternative would be to AMOLED but LCD has natural/neutral colors and "smooth" pixels versus AMOLED in which you can see individual LEDs/pixels and purple smears on black/gray colors. It's a matter of preference really.
- SD Card Mount Issues: not sure why you're having so many SD card errors. Perhaps it's formatted as internal or something else? No SD card issues with the majority of us.
- Random slowdowns: Definitely a rogue app! Haven't had slowdowns like that since 2011 flagships.
- Screen Randomly Waking: Strange as the phone will never wake unless you hit the power button (with DT2W disabled in your case)
- Dropped Signal: have you tried formatting? Doesn't sound normal for a phone to behave like that.
- Android Auto: I don't use it so I wouldn't know, as I just use Maps.
- Sexiness: Again, preferences.
- AOSP Support: Thankfully, Sense is now closer to AOSP than ever, without the boringness/plainness of AOSP that nexuses have. It actually has some neat additional features that lack in AOSP.
Battery: I find battery to be great given it's only a 3000 mAh. It's not as good as my previous Droid Turbo(3900 mAh) but the QC 3.0 make up for it.
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- Polarized LCD Panel: it's part of the LCD tech. Only alternative would be to AMOLED but LCD has natural/neutral colors and "smooth" pixels versus AMOLED in which you can see individual LEDs/pixels and purple smears on black/gray colors. It's a matter of preference really.
- SD Card Mount Issues: not sure why you're having so many SD card errors. Perhaps it's formatted as internal or something else? No SD card issues with the majority of us.
- Random slowdowns: Definitely a rogue app! Haven't had slowdowns like that since 2011 flagships.
- Screen Randomly Waking: Strange as the phone will never wake unless you hit the power button (with DT2W disabled in your case)
- Dropped Signal: have you tried formatting? Doesn't sound normal for a phone to behave like that.
- AOSP Support: Thankfully, Sense is now closer to AOSP than ever, without the boringness/plainness of AOSP that nexuses have. It actually has some neat additional features that lack in AOSP.
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Yeah, Quick Charge definitely makes up for any difference in battery compared to the Turbo.
As for the signal, it's definitely a rogue issue but I find myself having to enter and exit airplane mode more and more frequently to gain 4G. Usually I'd only have this problem on AOSP Roms on non-Nexus devices.
The screen randomly waking is just flat out annoying. Especially on runs. Accidentally called my CIO the other day when my phone was locked and in my pocket....Not good.
The SD card issue truly is my biggest complaints as I wanted to have this device for my music. I left on a week long vacation and just before boarding my flight I lost all my music. Incredibly annoying and it's always been set as external storage. When attempting to use internal I get the same issue (when testing).
As for the LCD I understand it's complete preference but other LCD panels I've used did not have this issue. When you're out on a boat and in the sun as much as I am you're always wearing polarized glasses. This thing is unreadable out in the daylight.
I don't have issues with signal, or really anything. I would say main grip (minimal) is Wi-Fi does drain battery more than LTE. I will say it's a lot better with custom sense Tom though.
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I'm going on my 2nd day with the HTC 10 and I can say I'm pleasantly surprised. After being a Samsung junky coming from a S7 Edge and then the Note 7 I can honestly say I am very pleased with my switch to HTC. I've owned nearly every Samsung flagship since the Note 3. Everything has been working great for me and the near AOSP compared to TouchWiz is great. The camera isn't much of a downgrade from Samsung at all and that really makes me happy. I've been using the phone caseless until mine comes in the mail tomorrow so I've really gotten a good feel for the phone. It handles well and is built nice. I S-Offed and rooted shortly after I got the phone and have zero regrets on the switch. I just wish I did it sooner and I would have saved a bunch of cash from phone switching. Nice job HTC with the build and @jcase and the team for root.
Horrible device, would definitely not recommend this to anyone. Uses a crazy amount of data that the phone doesn't seem to be registering (according to my cell phone I went through 1.2GB of data, the phone is showing 133MB). Battery life is beyond horrible (yes everything possible is disabled -- not syncing, not using photo sync, not using backup, disabled all gestures, turned off all google now/google anything services, screen is set to dim just enough to barely see it). Just using KIK for 20 minutes yesterday I lost 10% battery (no joke). Wifi is still buggy, even after the 186 firmware update. Can't tell if its Marshmallow in general or HTC's garbage services that is causing all these problems. There are so many little annoying things with the Verizon build too -- default email app doesn't resize HTML messages so everything is HUGE, the power toggle widget sucks -- you click wifi which normally turns it on/off but it instead brings you to the wifi settings where you then have to manually turn it on/off, things like this that I have to deal with daily is slowly driving me crazy. Going back to my old device until my data gets the monthly reset, then I'll try some custom ROMs to see if it helps with these issues.
Honestly, the only good feature on this phone is the fingerprint scanner. It did make me realize how much I love my little Razr M which I would go through a full day of use and still only be at 90-85% battery.

Farewell fellow G3 users

It is with a sad and heavy heart that I must state that my G3 died tonight while I was using it. It just shut off unexpectedly while it was charging. This was the first time this has ever happened. I can get it to turn on briefly, and then it shuts off again but there are also times where it just doesn't respond.
If I remove the battery and plug it into the charger, usually the battery with a question mark would show up to state the battery was missing. It won't even do that. That to me signals it has finally died. I'm going to miss this phone. Funny how it died the month that my 2-year-contract was up.
I'm looking at probably the Moto-Z Play Droid. I used to like Motorola products. This one has expandable storage, which is great. Hate that it doesn't have a removable battery though. But, it will bring down my monthly fees by about $3. But it sucks because my bill would have dropped $20 a month since the G3 was off contract.
I want to thank everyone who helped me through the past two years with everything here. That is especially @bweN diorD and @roirraW "edor" ehT.
Farewell fellow G3 users! We might meet up again some day.
Sorry to hear about the catastrophic failure! Take care, good luck, and hope to see you around.
happened to me also but plugging the cable while holding up button after reinserting battery got me into download mode but there was nothing on the screen same like you. after that i flashed 10b tot and it is working again. you can give it a try.
That's horrible to hear, I have been reading your and the road warrior posts as I am new to the LG G3 and your are a helpful person!!
I got my G3 off a friend as it was hard to find a non K model on swappa. I came from the horribly locked down CID 11 GS5.
Thanks for the posts you left and the responses you gave me in my short time getting acquired!
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Farewell fellow G3 users! We might meet up again some day.
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My condolences on your loss :angel:
If you're going to sell it please let us know. If it's not repairable it can parted out
& Good luck with your new gear. Hopefully the dev community is strong for whatever you decide to get :good:
It was a hard decision between the Galaxy S7 and the Moto Z. Moto Z pulled me over because it was pretty close to pure stock Android. But four things pushed me the S7:
Moto Z has USB-C, so that means I have to get all new charging cables for the car, etc.
No headphone jack. Sorry, this is a biggie. Yes, the Moto Z comes with a USB-C adapter to use headphones, but nope. Plus, my car doesn't have Blue Tooth, so I need the headphone jack.
What was a selling point was a negative for me: the add-on. Expensive, limited to the Moto Z, and stuff I really didn't need. Plus, even though they promised it would work with later models, we all know how that goes.
One more was the camera. Comparisons between the S7 and the Moto Z were no contest. The S7 takes WAY better pictures.
Of course, when I got to the store, found out I got a free Samsung VR Gear from Oculus! Awesome! Didn't even know that would happen.
As for my G3, it's toast. It just won't start up at all, so it's definitely a hardware failure. I can't even get it into download mode to try and flash 10b back on it. So, the phone has died.
It was a fun two years that I was here. Learned a lot and will miss a lot of you, but many of you have also moved on as well.
I'll lurk around still and help those who are seeking assistance with their G3s.
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happened to me also but plugging the cable while holding up button after reinserting battery got me into download mode but there was nothing on the screen same like you. after that i flashed 10b tot and it is working again. you can give it a try.
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Yeah, I tried this. It goes into DL mode but after 30 seconds, it shuts down before I can do anything, so there is definitely a hardware failure going on. I've reseated all the connectors on the motherboard and that didn't help.
The phone is toast. Loving my S7 though right now and the free Samsung Gear VR I got with it, along with the $10/month monthly payment with no trade-in option they had over over this past weekend. That came along at the right time! :laugh:
Take care fellow G3 users. May your phone last longer than mine (about 2 years). I loved the G3 and what it offered. I was even happy with it on stock.
I won't be doing anything with my S7 either other than disable some bloat (which there really isn't that much on here like the G3 has). Looks like there is a Nougat beta going on, but I'm going to stay away from that after the nasty experience I had with the 49A OTA. Might be that it didn't cause my G3 to fail, but it sure was quite a coincidence!
Try a new battery. I had a battery go bad. It's a cheap fix.
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Try a new battery. I had a battery go bad. It's a cheap fix.
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Not sure it's the battery and I've already replaced the phone. I might take it into the battery store and see if they'll let me test it with a new battery before I purchase one. Would be interesting to see if it works or not. I did try to flash it back to 10g and it got interrupted in the middle of it, so it's probably in BULK mode and right now, I don't feel like taking it apart to expose the connectors to "short" it out. Did it once, but now that I have an S7, not sure if I want to mess with it right now. But, I'll hold onto it until I'm ready to try a new battery in it.
I had a problem with my phone 8 months back . I went on craigslist and bought another used. I was lucky it had not taken an update. I rooted it without having to go back and tot it. . even better I took the battery out and put it in my old one confirming the battery was bad. now I have a backup and another battery was less then 10 bucks. hope it's your battery. I don't recall the symptoms just it wouldn't boot up full.
My experience (2 phones - mine & wife's) was that a dying batter swells up and can cause collateral damage to the phone. This happened first on my phone after about 18 months; I could see a gap where the screen was pushed up away from the bezel. At the same time a 5mm or so strip at the top of the screen became unresponsive to touch. New batteries are (were?) only $15 from LG. That fixed the bulge problem, but the touch problem remained. I got a used phone off FleaBay (was in excellent condition) for a bit over $100. About 3-4 months later, my wife's phone started to show the same bulge in the screen. New battery solved the problem; fortunately no other damage. Her phone is a bit newer than mine, so the failure was at about the same point in the life. Admittedly we're hard on batteries because we routinely stick the phones on the wireless charging pad overnight, and they tend to stay warm.
My old phone has been relegated to Pandora player duty. I don't see any thing in a newer phone that I need, and few have wireless charging and/or replaceable batteries. I'll probably keep swapping in new batteries every 12-18 months and keep them going as long as possible.
I have been very happy with my G3 over the past two years. My GF and I each have one, so we are compatible for batteries and charging, etc.
I have recently been wanting something newer and different, but without a lot of justification.
I was looking at the G6 from Verizon, $480 on plan, which is nice. But, that would have forced me off my OG Unlimited plan, which would then cost me at least $20 more a month.
I decided to try the HTC U11, since it is bootloader unlockable and they swear that the Unlocked version also works on Verizon CDMA. F'n better work.
G6 might have better screen. U11 has better camera and 2x storage @ 64GB. Hope I don't miss swappable batteries.
BoulderGeek said:
I have been very happy with my G3 over the past two years. My GF and I each have one, so we are compatible for batteries and charging, etc.
I have recently been wanting something newer and different, but without a lot of justification.
I was looking at the G6 from Verizon, $480 on plan, which is nice. But, that would have forced me off my OG Unlimited plan, which would then cost me at least $20 more a month.
I decided to try the HTC U11, since it is bootloader unlockable and they swear that the Unlocked version also works on Verizon CDMA. F'n better work.
G6 might have better screen. U11 has better camera and 2x storage @ 64GB. Hope I don't miss swappable batteries.
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I'm waiting until October for Pixel 2 most likely. It would be nice to have an unlocked phone that gets support from the manufacturer in a timely manner. Plus, no Alexa and possibly a headphone jack.
I'm actually pretty sold on Alexa. I have two Echo Dots and a ton of WeMo devices, thermostat, security, etc.
I wanted the Alexa integration, to be honest.
Just wanted to give an update. S7 is still going strong on Nougat with no issues. Battery life is good for me (except when I play games which is most of the time ) and performance is great. Definitely better than the G3, but I really had no issues with the G3 performance-wise, but I can tell a difference in response on certain apps/games.
Still miss the G3 and wish I could have made it work, but it has since been retired to the recycle bin. :crying:
Now in my family, my oldest daughter and my wife have S7s as well. My daughter was the first to get it. Then me. Then my wife. Our other daughter has an iPhone 7s. Tried to get her to switch to Android, but she does have a lot wrapped up in her phone as far as music, apps, etc. Plus, she as an Apple Notebook, so in many respects, it all works for her. I just hate when she has issues with it not backing up photos and such correctly. And same with her music and trying to get it off the phone. One of the major reasons why I never went to an iPhone after seeing all the issues my daughters had with their iPods so many years back. That pretty much told me to stay away if I can't easily backup up music and files from my phone.

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