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Dear Friends,
I am a US consumer. About to buy a Verizon LG G3. My number # 1 priority in a phone is, more of less development support for a phone. Number of ROMs being developed, how many choices, mods, frequent updates, and etc.
Clearly, the International version D855 is the King. Number 2 is probably D851, the T-Mobile US Variant with the Unlocked bootloader. International versions are expensive and hard to find in America and it's more or less the same for the T-Mobile version.
I browsed the Development section for all G3 variants on XDA, and surprisingly, the number 3 variant is the Verizon, US Model! Which is fine by me, because it can be unlocked and used on AT&T and I am moving to Verizon soon, for the better coverage and LTE speeds.
I am lined up to pull the trigger on buying the Verizon G3, as we speak, but I need some help confirmation from you guys:
1. Is it true, that with the BUMP'd/TWRP recovery, the Verizon G3 is as good as the Unlocked bootloader models, like D851 and D855? If not, what is the difference, disadvantage?
2. How would you rate the Development support for the Verizon variant of the LG G3?
Thank you for your help! I have the seller lined up, please respond as soon as you can, I would really appreciate it!
ProFragger said:
Dear Friends,
I am a US consumer. About to buy a Verizon LG G3. My number # 1 priority in a phone is, more of less development support for a phone. Number of ROMs being developed, how many choices, mods, frequent updates, and etc.
Clearly, the International version D855 is the King. Number 2 is probably D851, the T-Mobile US Variant with the Unlocked bootloader. International versions are expensive and hard to find in America and it's more or less the same for the T-Mobile version.
I browsed the Development section for all G3 variants on XDA, and surprisingly, the number 3 variant is the Verizon, US Model! Which is fine by me, because it can be unlocked and used on AT&T and I am moving to Verizon soon, for the better coverage and LTE speeds.
I am lined up to pull the trigger on buying the Verizon G3, as we speak, but I need some help confirmation from you guys:
1. Is it true, that with the BUMP'd/TWRP recovery, the Verizon G3 is as good as the Unlocked bootloader models, like D851 and D855? If not, what is the difference, disadvantage?
2. How would you rate the Development support for the Verizon variant of the LG G3?
Thank you for your help! I have the seller lined up, please respond as soon as you can, I would really appreciate it!
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Having the bump'd twrp is basically the same thing. No matter which way you get to a custom recovery it's all the same. In my opinion its a great phone to have and pretty hard to screw something up. Sky Dragon and Jasmine are my personal favorites as far as Stock roms go. Unless you want to wait for the G4 i would go ahead and pull the trigger. You won't be disappointed.
Edde3d said:
Having the bump'd twrp is basically the same thing. No matter which way you get to a custom recovery it's all the same. In my opinion its a great phone to have and pretty hard to screw something up. Sky Dragon and Jasmine are my personal favorites as far as Stock roms go. Unless you want to wait for the G4 i would go ahead and pull the trigger. You won't be disappointed.
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This is excellent news bud, thank you! What tripped me up was the fact that the T-Mobile version is so much more expensive... Why exactly ?
One question for you, how would you rate the development support for the Verizon variant? And yes, I'm more interested in CM12 kind of ROMs.
Lastly, if the seller has OTA'd to Lollipop, can I somehow bring it back to the KK firmware in I want that?
Thanks so much for your help again!
ProFragger said:
This is excellent news bud, thank you! What tripped me up was the fact that the T-Mobile version is so much more expensive... Why exactly ?
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Must be that Qi charging antenna sticker... The VZW comes with only the NFC installed, but it is easy and cheap to upgrade.
ProFragger said:
One question for you, how would you rate the development support for the Verizon variant? And yes, I'm more interested in CM12 kind of ROMs.
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I have to say that it is pretty excellent. Lots of support just for the VZW variant on the AOSP side and many of the goodies from the main LG G3 thread are also applicable. I find the best phones for hacking up are the ones available on most of the US carriers.
ProFragger said:
Lastly, if the seller has OTA'd to Lollipop, can I somehow bring it back to the KK firmware in I want that?
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Easiest way would be to flash a KK stock-based ROM. That way, you go bloat-free, get fixes, and stop the OTA if you're freezing on KK.
epidenimus said:
Must be that Qi charging antenna sticker... The VZW comes with only the NFC installed, but it is easy and cheap to upgrade.
I have to say that it is pretty excellent. Lots of support just for the VZW variant on the AOSP side and many of the goodies from the main LG G3 thread are also applicable. I find the best phones for hacking up are the ones available on most of the US carriers.
Easiest way would be to flash a KK stock-based ROM. That way, you go bloat-free, get fixes, and stop the OTA if you're freezing on KK.
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Thanks for the response, bud. Wireless charging really hasn't been a factor me, so far, so it's a non-issue. Good to hear of the VZW Dev support, although I'd have to say it's probably because someone found a way to "bump" or install Custom Recovery on a locked Bootloader, which is every phone on Verizon ! Too bad, because these LTE phones are factory unlocked for Global use, but so crippled, thanks to the bootloader non-sense. I wish the exploit extended to the Note lines or even HTC phones.
This is one reason why we see most of the T-Mobile variants selling like hot cakes, even though Sprint has that as well, the supported GSM functionality and bands are just not there.
I assume doing a simple Stock ROM flash via the LG Flash Tools, or "KDZ" is the way to get back to KK, if wanted? No downgrade issues like Notes, correct? Apparently, you can't downgrade the bootloader on those once moved to LP ...
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Thanks for the response, bud. Wireless charging really hasn't been a factor me, so far, so it's a non-issue. Good to hear of the VZW Dev support, although I'd have to say it's probably because someone found a way to "bump" or install Custom Recovery on a locked Bootloader, which is every phone on Verizon ! Too bad, because these LTE phones are factory unlocked for Global use, but so crippled, thanks to the bootloader non-sense. I wish the exploit extended to the Note lines or even HTC phones.
This is one reason why we see most of the T-Mobile variants selling like hot cakes, even though Sprint has that as well, the supported GSM functionality and bands are just not there.
I assume doing a simple Stock ROM flash via the LG Flash Tools, or "KDZ" is the way to get back to KK, if wanted? No downgrade issues like Notes, correct? Apparently, you can't downgrade the bootloader on those once moved to LP ...
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Yes, you can either use the "kdz", or " tot" methods of restoring back to software version 10B (the initial stock software that is easily rootable/unlockable using stump and bump). I personally prefer the tot method, but that probably because I've got a Win 7 computer ( Win 8 has apparently caused some issues for some using the tot method), and its the first method that came out that I used so just stuck with it, but either would work great. And no, no downgrade nonsense or risk of bricks, regardless of firmware it comes on (at least as of this writing lol)
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Yes, you can either use the "kdz", or " tot" methods of restoring back to software version 10B (the initial stock software that is easily rootable/unlockable using stump and bump). I personally prefer the tot method, but that probably because I've got a Win 7 computer ( Win 8 has apparently caused some issues for some using the tot method), and its the first method that came out that I used so just stuck with it, but either would work great. And no, no downgrade nonsense or risk of bricks, regardless of firmware it comes on (at least as of this writing lol)
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This is excellent news and response, bud, thanks! Although, from a little bit of reading around here, I have heard of at least a few instances of people restoring stock firmware and in the process, somehow magically clearing out their IMEI to 0 !!! Is this actually true and a common occurrence? I heard their is a process to correct is via QPST, but it is arduous.
I wish someone did a video of Root + TWRP from starting to end for the LG G3 (Verizon version). Seeing how this will be my first LG phone, terms still confuse me, like Root method names, what exactly does "stump" or "bump" mean, and yeah, getting TWRP on there.
There is also a one-click TWRP installer for the VZW G3 on the Playstore? Is that true? Is that the same as having Bumped TWRP? Thanks!
ProFragger said:
This is excellent news and response, bud, thanks! Although, from a little bit of reading around here, I have heard of at least a few instances of people restoring stock firmware and in the process, somehow magically clearing out their IMEI to 0 !!! Is this actually true and a common occurrence? I heard their is a process to correct is via QPST, but it is arduous.
I wish someone did a video of Root + TWRP from starting to end for the LG G3 (Verizon version). Seeing how this will be my first LG phone, terms still confuse me, like Root method names, what exactly does "stump" or "bump" mean, and yeah, getting TWRP on there.
There is also a one-click TWRP installer for the VZW G3 on the Playstore? Is that true? Is that the same as having Bumped TWRP? Thanks!
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I can't speak to the IMEI clearing as being a "common" issue....I've restored at least 5 different phones using the tot method, several multiple times and never once had an issue. I do, however, maintain a backup in the cloud of the EFS partition (same basic thing I think? I just know it's an important partition lol) for every phone I oversee and have messed with.
As for your question about stump/bump/etc., there are several different root methods out now...."Stump root" was just the name of the first - and so it's what I've always stuck with. "Bump", on the other hand, is the method for "unlocking" the bootloader and flashing TWRP.
As for the play store 'auto' app, I hadn't even heard of it until you said something and I searched. I'm assuming you're talking about this. All I can say is that I've never used it so I have no idea. Below I've laid out the steps that I, personally, follow each and every time I've gotten a new device or restored one. I realize there may be simpler ways out there now, but I've been in this specific community since the very beginning, and so I've just stuck with the "tried and true" stuff that came out first.
As for the one click TWRP installer on the play store, again I don't know. However, flashing the "bumped" TWRP via flashify is probably the easiest way to do it (it is not officially stated by the devs to work, but countless people including myself numerous times have confirmed it does).
So, TLDR:
If I were to get a brand new, VS985 today, here is the exact set of steps I would follow (I just got another one 2 weeks ago and these are what I did, and have always done):
1). Use the tot method, found here to restore (downgrade) back to the initial stock release software (version 10B_03). Alternatively, you can use the "kdz" method found here, but on my Windows 7 PC the tot method has always worked like a charm and the one time I used the kdz method it seemed a bit sketchier, but to each their own. I think the main "push" for the kdz method was that some people were having trouble getting the tot method to work on computers w/ Windows 8/8.1.
2). Once that's done, reboot and do minimal setup, then use stump root (found here) to root. Follow the directions exactly, and as long as you're on 10B it will still work - it's just been patched in newer software versions. After rooting and rebooting, then install superSU from the play store, open that, update the binary via "normal" method and then reboot once more. After that reboot, uninstall the stump app, you don't need it anymore.
3). Then, install Flashify from the play store. To be safe, I usually open it and make sure I've granted root, then close it and open superSU and make sure it's got the green mark next to it signifying it has full root access (again, just to be sure). Then, download the "bumped" TWRP image from here, and put it somewhere you can find it on your INTERNAL storage (not sure if this is vital, but again, just being safe). Also, for later, download the zip of TWRP 2.8.6.1 from here
4). Use the Flashify file browser to flash that recovery image you just downloaded to the your internal storage. Let it do it's thing, then reboot when it prompts you.
5). You should now boot up into TWRP. Use the install function to update from the TWRP you just flashed (2.8.0.0) to the 2.8.6.1 zip you just downloaded. Then use reboot>recovery to confirm it took.
6). That's pretty much it. With that you're fully rooted + unlocked. Only other thing I would highly recommend at this point is following the guide here to back up your EFS partition, and then store it to your Google drive or dropbox or other cloud storage or somewhere safe lol. If you're gonna stay stock I'd freeze the system update apps, or better use just flash skydragon or jasmine roms as they're great stock-based roms.
Any other questions just let me know.
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I can't speak to the IMEI clearing as being a "common" issue....I've restored at least 5 different phones using the tot method, several multiple times and never once had an issue. I do, however, maintain a backup in the cloud of the EFS partition (same basic thing I think? I just know it's an important partition lol) for every phone I oversee and have messed with.
As for your question about stump/bump/etc., there are several different root methods out now...."Stump root" was just the name of the first - and so it's what I've always stuck with. "Bump", on the other hand, is the method for "unlocking" the bootloader and flashing TWRP.
As for the play store 'auto' app, I hadn't even heard of it until you said something and I searched. I'm assuming you're talking about this. All I can say is that I've never used it so I have no idea. Below I've laid out the steps that I, personally, follow each and every time I've gotten a new device or restored one. I realize there may be simpler ways out there now, but I've been in this specific community since the very beginning, and so I've just stuck with the "tried and true" stuff that came out first.
As for the one click TWRP installer on the play store, again I don't know. However, flashing the "bumped" TWRP via flashify is probably the easiest way to do it (it is not officially stated by the devs to work, but countless people including myself numerous times have confirmed it does).
So, TLDR:
If I were to get a brand new, VS985 today, here is the exact set of steps I would follow (I just got another one 2 weeks ago and these are what I did, and have always done):
1). Use the tot method, found here to restore (downgrade) back to the initial stock release software (version 10B_03). Alternatively, you can use the "kdz" method found here, but on my Windows 7 PC the tot method has always worked like a charm and the one time I used the kdz method it seemed a bit sketchier, but to each their own. I think the main "push" for the kdz method was that some people were having trouble getting the tot method to work on computers w/ Windows 8/8.1.
2). Once that's done, reboot and do minimal setup, then use stump root (found here) to root. Follow the directions exactly, and as long as you're on 10B it will still work - it's just been patched in newer software versions. After rooting and rebooting, then install superSU from the play store, open that, update the binary via "normal" method and then reboot once more. After that reboot, uninstall the stump app, you don't need it anymore.
3). Then, install Flashify from the play store. To be safe, I usually open it and make sure I've granted root, then close it and open superSU and make sure it's got the green mark next to it signifying it has full root access (again, just to be sure). Then, download the "bumped" TWRP image from here, and put it somewhere you can find it on your INTERNAL storage (not sure if this is vital, but again, just being safe). Also, for later, download the zip of TWRP 2.8.6.1 from here
4). Use the Flashify file browser to flash that recovery image you just downloaded to the your internal storage. Let it do it's thing, then reboot when it prompts you.
5). You should now boot up into TWRP. Use the install function to update from the TWRP you just flashed (2.8.0.0) to the 2.8.6.1 zip you just downloaded. Then use reboot>recovery to confirm it took.
6). That's pretty much it. With that you're fully rooted + unlocked. Only other thing I would highly recommend at this point is following the guide here to back up your EFS partition, and then store it to your Google drive or dropbox or other cloud storage or somewhere safe lol. If you're gonna stay stock I'd freeze the system update apps, or better use just flash skydragon or jasmine roms as they're great stock-based roms.
Any other questions just let me know.
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Hey bud,
This is probably the BEST post I have EVER been a recipient of at XDA. And trust me, I have been here since almost 2008! So please accept my deepest gratitude, so detailed, and so patient, really excellent job and excellent member of the community!
I ordered my phone, it is used, so not sure what build it will have, but if it took the OTA, then likely, it's LP and I would have to downgrade to 10b, like you said and then use Stump to Root. Problem is, since we can't backup EFS without Root, or TWRP, rather, it is making me nervous to use the TOT method first, which as I mentioned earlier, I have read, people blowing their IMEIs like that before ...
With that said, I think you have laid everything out nicely for me, just a matter of getting the phone, sitting down, and getting through the process . What would make it easier, is a Rooting method without the downgrade, but that's just me being really nit picky .
The other thought lingering in my head... since this my first LG, do I enjoy a Optimus UI ROM for a bit or go straight for the no nonsense CM12 or 12.1? Do you guys have the non working NFC on CM ROMs as well or other bugs that are common like that? I heard the LG G3 stock ROM got super laggy and heats the phone up!
ProFragger said:
Hey bud,
This is probably the BEST post I have EVER been a recipient of at XDA. And trust me, I have been here since almost 2008! So please accept my deepest gratitude, so detailed, and so patient, really excellent job and excellent member of the community!
I ordered my phone, it is used, so not sure what build it will have, but if it took the OTA, then likely, it's LP and I would have to downgrade to 10b, like you said and then use Stump to Root. Problem is, since we can't backup EFS without Root, or TWRP, rather, it is making me nervous to use the TOT method first, which as I mentioned earlier, I have read, people blowing their IMEIs like that before ...
With that said, I think you have laid everything out nicely for me, just a matter of getting the phone, sitting down, and getting through the process . What would make it easier, is a Rooting method without the downgrade, but that's just me being really nit picky .
The other thought lingering in my head... since this my first LG, do I enjoy a Optimus UI ROM for a bit or go straight for the no nonsense CM12 or 12.1? Do you guys have the non working NFC on CM ROMs as well or other bugs that are common like that? I heard the LG G3 stock ROM got super laggy and heats the phone up!
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Thanks for the compliment What can I say, I've just seen too many crap-tastic tutorials
I understand your concern about the whole imei thing, I'd be the same way had I not done it so many times. Could you link the places where you've seen people wiping out their imeis supposedly? Also, if you're willing to do a little reading, something along these lines MIGHT work just to obtain root while still on STOCK LP (which I'd what I'm assuming it would come on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951
If you do go this route and try to root while still on stock and before downgrading so that you can backup the efs partition, then be sure to NOT install twrp unless you do a bunch of reading beforehand as I believe it is the aboot that changed on LP and if you try to flash the twrp images I posted while on stock LP you'll get secure boot errors and have a heck of a mess. IMHO, better to either bite the bullet and do the downgrade straight (as I haven't seen these imei wipes you're noting and I've done several myself with zero issues), OR try and root stock LP, then backup the EFS partition, and THEN downgrade through the steps I posted.
Either way, with the Roms, its pretty much same as normal. I never recommend full stock, as if you're gonna root and unlock, you might as well use it IMHO. Stock is good if your most important things are stability and (at least currently and in my experience) battery life, while aosp based is better if you like the cleaner look, and most customizability. Either way you'll be OK. If you go for stock LG, I'd recommend either jasmine ROM or skydragon ROM. I've used skydragon ROM for a bit and its great if you love stock. I'm more of an aosp guy and so I currently use CM 12.1 and its easily DD stable for me, but not without it's quirks - sometimes the screen double tap to wake doesn't work or screen doesn't come on post-call, sometimes the battery life ain't great, sometimes it runs hot, etc. but all typically good enough for reasonable DD stability. I've started using 777kernel on top of the CM 12.1 flash and the device seems to run a bit cooler.
ohlin5 said:
Thanks for the compliment What can I say, I've just seen too many crap-tastic tutorials
I understand your concern about the whole imei thing, I'd be the same way had I not done it so many times. Could you link the places where you've seen people wiping out their imeis supposedly? Also, if you're willing to do a little reading, something along these lines MIGHT work just to obtain root while still on STOCK LP (which I'd what I'm assuming it would come on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951
If you do go this route and try to root while still on stock and before downgrading so that you can backup the efs partition, then be sure to NOT install twrp unless you do a bunch of reading beforehand as I believe it is the aboot that changed on LP and if you try to flash the twrp images I posted while on stock LP you'll get secure boot errors and have a heck of a mess. IMHO, better to either bite the bullet and do the downgrade straight (as I haven't seen these imei wipes you're noting and I've done several myself with zero issues), OR try and root stock LP, then backup the EFS partition, and THEN downgrade through the steps I posted.
Either way, with the Roms, its pretty much same as normal. I never recommend full stock, as if you're gonna root and unlock, you might as well use it IMHO. Stock is good if your most important things are stability and (at least currently and in my experience) battery life, while aosp based is better if you like the cleaner look, and most customizability. Either way you'll be OK. If you go for stock LG, I'd recommend either jasmine ROM or skydragon ROM. I've used skydragon ROM for a bit and its great if you love stock. I'm more of an aosp guy and so I currently use CM 12.1 and its easily DD stable for me, but not without it's quirks - sometimes the screen double tap to wake doesn't work or screen doesn't come on post-call, sometimes the battery life ain't great, sometimes it runs hot, etc. but all typically good enough for reasonable DD stability. I've started using 777kernel on top of the CM 12.1 flash and the device seems to run a bit cooler.
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Forgive the late response bud, the compliments are well deserved, trust me !
Here's an example of a gentleman losing his IMEI via TOT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/restore-via-tot-wipe-imei-t3033445
Let's hope it's the abnormal and not so normal .
I think let me get the phone I will keep, and will figure it out how to Root and Bump it. This phone I have to return, the item was not as described, but incidentally, came with Android 4.4.2! I imagine a simple Stump and Bump would have worked like a charm here?
In the end, playing with Optimus UI/LG UI, I couldn't find anything really that would make me stay with it. Outside of the camera app, 4K recording, and some minor features which I love, but no one else cares about.. like the Phone Muting and Speaker options in the Notification bar, while on a call. Can you believe, I couldn't even find a replacement app/dialer that could do that on AOSP ROM !?
Since you are a CM12.1 user, can I ask you what works on it and doesn't? NFC? Bluetooth? Knock-on, but NOT Knock Code, correct? IR Blaster? And have you had much luck with Xposed?
Please let me know your thoughts and input? Also, for CM12/12.1, do I need a special kernel for Knock on (and Knock Code) to work? If so, which one?
Thanks again bud!
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In the end, playing with Optimus UI/LG UI, I couldn't find anything really that would make me stay with it. Outside of the camera app, 4K recording, and some minor features which I love, but no one else cares about..
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The stock camera is surely missed, but the screen clarity is still amazing, the removable battery is sizeable, the sound is decent (no boom sound though), and you can slap an external SD card in it for more fun. The real appeal of this is that the hardware setup is pretty awesome for running and testing custom software. The LG stock ROM is really lackluster; a good AOSP ROM makes far better use of it.
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Since you are a CM12.1 user, can I ask you what works on it and doesn't? NFC? Bluetooth? Knock-on, but NOT Knock Code, correct? IR Blaster? And have you had much luck with Xposed?
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Yes, all of this works fine in the 12.1 ROMs I have tested out. You get knock-on and knock-off at the status bar. Quick Remote has been ported and works great. Most things that you might use Xposed to do are integrated in a good AOSP/CM based ROM already. I have not seen a need to install it on AOSP, just stock.
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Please let me know your thoughts and input? Also, for CM12/12.1, do I need a special kernel for Knock on (and Knock Code) to work? If so, which one?
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If the dev baked the feature in, the kernel that comes with it should work.
Just my two cents. I hope it helps!
Pretty much what he said ^^^
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ProFragger said:
Forgive the late response bud, the compliments are well deserved, trust me !
Here's an example of a gentleman losing his IMEI via TOT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/restore-via-tot-wipe-imei-t3033445
Let's hope it's the abnormal and not so normal .
I think let me get the phone I will keep, and will figure it out how to Root and Bump it. This phone I have to return, the item was not as described, but incidentally, came with Android 4.4.2! I imagine a simple Stump and Bump would have worked like a charm here?
In the end, playing with Optimus UI/LG UI, I couldn't find anything really that would make me stay with it. Outside of the camera app, 4K recording, and some minor features which I love, but no one else cares about.. like the Phone Muting and Speaker options in the Notification bar, while on a call. Can you believe, I couldn't even find a replacement app/dialer that could do that on AOSP ROM !?
Since you are a CM12.1 user, can I ask you what works on it and doesn't? NFC? Bluetooth? Knock-on, but NOT Knock Code, correct? IR Blaster? And have you had much luck with Xposed?
Please let me know your thoughts and input? Also, for CM12/12.1, do I need a special kernel for Knock on (and Knock Code) to work? If so, which one?
Thanks again bud!
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See the other guys post, does a pretty fair overview. And thanks for that link....I mean it does show it can happen I guess, although I did also note the OP said in his last response that the 2nd time he toted he didn't have the issue, so he thinks maybe he screwed something up the first time....who knows lol
ohlin5 said:
Pretty much what he said ^^^
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See the other guys post, does a pretty fair overview. And thanks for that link....I mean it does show it can happen I guess, although I did also note the OP said in his last response that the 2nd time he toted he didn't have the issue, so he thinks maybe he screwed something up the first time....who knows lol
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That would be me.
Yup, the second time around it worked just fine when I flashed back to 10b so I could then take the LP OTA. Of course, now we know that you can use the 12b image to flash back to official KK to take the OTA, or you can now flash the official 23C image that's out there and one-click root it.
Glad my post has been of use. I definitely wanted to share my experience so that others who experience the same issue can then get it rectified.
epidenimus said:
The stock camera is surely missed, but the screen clarity is still amazing, the removable battery is sizeable, the sound is decent (no boom sound though), and you can slap an external SD card in it for more fun. The real appeal of this is that the hardware setup is pretty awesome for running and testing custom software. The LG stock ROM is really lackluster; a good AOSP ROM makes far better use of it.
Yes, all of this works fine in the 12.1 ROMs I have tested out. You get knock-on and knock-off at the status bar. Quick Remote has been ported and works great. Most things that you might use Xposed to do are integrated in a good AOSP/CM based ROM already. I have not seen a need to install it on AOSP, just stock.
If the dev baked the feature in, the kernel that comes with it should work.
Just my two cents. I hope it helps!
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ohlin5 said:
Pretty much what he said ^^^
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See the other guys post, does a pretty fair overview. And thanks for that link....I mean it does show it can happen I guess, although I did also note the OP said in his last response that the 2nd time he toted he didn't have the issue, so he thinks maybe he screwed something up the first time....who knows lol
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iBolski said:
That would be me.
Yup, the second time around it worked just fine when I flashed back to 10b so I could then take the LP OTA. Of course, now we know that you can use the 12b image to flash back to official KK to take the OTA, or you can now flash the official 23C image that's out there and one-click root it.
Glad my post has been of use. I definitely wanted to share my experience so that others who experience the same issue can then get it rectified.
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Guys,
I wanted to follow up/close the loop on this thread and thank you guys once again for all your help! I received 12B on my phone, was downloading materials to TOT down to 10B to root with stump, till I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951
Worked like a charm, and can save others an hour or two, downloading the stock firmware and etc.
Now I am Rooted, TWRP'd 2.6.8.1, is it?, and efs backedup as well!
This is my first LG ever, so I will use stock ROM on it for a few weeks. It is unbelievable how LITTLE stock ROM support is, compared to the CM stuff, across the board for the G3. Maybe your experience is different, but that is what I have found. For every 5 aosp builds there is one stock ROM. And the Verizon variant is no different, only Jasmin and skydragon available. Please do correct me if I am wrong, and there are more ROMs out there to try? I still can't believe the lack of stock ROMs considering how crucial the camera is on this phone!
Between the sd and Jasmine, I think I will start out sd. Yes Jasmine is smaller and also updated later?, but also a little too complicated to install with separate Zips and stuff. What o you guys think?
Finally, if I go the aosp route, which likely I will in a few weeks, which one do you recommend for best features, updates, and performance/battery life?
Lastly, and possibly the most important question... What camera are you using on your CM ROMs ? I found that Lenovo was the best on my Note 3, best features and quality. Although a battery drain, no 4K, or HDR, and Panorama ... What do you guys think?
Thank you again guys for ALL your help!
ProFragger said:
Guys,
I wanted to follow up/close the loop on this thread and thank you guys once again for all your help! I received 12B on my phone, was downloading materials to TOT down to 10B to root with stump, till I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951
Worked like a charm, and can save others an hour or two, downloading the stock firmware and etc.
Now I am Rooted, TWRP'd 2.6.8.1, is it?, and efs backedup as well!
This is my first LG ever, so I will use stock ROM on it for a few weeks. It is unbelievable how LITTLE stock ROM support is, compared to the CM stuff, across the board for the G3. Maybe your experience is different, but that is what I have found. For every 5 aosp builds there is one stock ROM. And the Verizon variant is no different, only Jasmin and skydragon available. Please do correct me if I am wrong, and there are more ROMs out there to try? I still can't believe the lack of stock ROMs considering how crucial the camera is on this phone!
Between the sd and Jasmine, I think I will start out sd. Yes Jasmine is smaller and also updated later?, but also a little too complicated to install with separate Zips and stuff. What o you guys think?
Finally, if I go the aosp route, which likely I will in a few weeks, which one do you recommend for best features, updates, and performance/battery life?
Lastly, and possibly the most important question... What camera are you using on your CM ROMs ? I found that Lenovo was the best on my Note 3, best features and quality. Although a battery drain, no 4K, or HDR, and Panorama ... What do you guys think?
Thank you again guys for ALL your help!
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Nope, no other main stock based Roms for the G3....SD and Jasmine. If I were running stock I'd go SD with the custom kernel packaged with it. As for AOSP, people may disagree with me here, but I just sitck with CM. I like the idea of nightlies and being able to easily find updates from their websites and keep tabs on the progress updates merged, but that's just me. Recently I've been running CM with the 777 kernel, but only because the stock kernel seemed to be running very warm and draining battery a fair bit faster than usual. As for the camera, I again just stick with stock, as I find its good enough for me. I flashed several motorola, lenovo, etc. camera mods but it seemed like all too often it'd either be glitchy beyond measure or would break FFC in certain apps I knew to be otherwise working, etc. So I just started sticking with stock.
Random info:
I like focal (altho deprecated) it's in the play store. Lots of camera options.
If you do end up on some non stock roms, and have a dual band router, turn the channel on it to 11. It doesn't fix the wifi problems 100% but it may help.
Also there's plenty of g4 stuff floating around if you look for it.
Also you shouldn't have more than 0.25-0.5%/hr idle drain. If you do then somethings wrong. I'd install better battery stats right away and charge up to full and unplug before bed.
Amplify and greenify help but really the display is your battery culprit. I like cf lumen to help adjust the display from day to night usage.
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Nope, no other main stock based Roms for the G3....SD and Jasmine. If I were running stock I'd go SD with the custom kernel packaged with it. As for AOSP, people may disagree with me here, but I just sitck with CM. I like the idea of nightlies and being able to easily find updates from their websites and keep tabs on the progress updates merged, but that's just me. Recently I've been running CM with the 777 kernel, but only because the stock kernel seemed to be running very warm and draining battery a fair bit faster than usual. As for the camera, I again just stick with stock, as I find its good enough for me. I flashed several motorola, lenovo, etc. camera mods but it seemed like all too often it'd either be glitchy beyond measure or would break FFC in certain apps I knew to be otherwise working, etc. So I just started sticking with stock.
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Random info:
I like focal (altho deprecated) it's in the play store. Lots of camera options.
If you do end up on some non stock roms, and have a dual band router, turn the channel on it to 11. It doesn't fix the wifi problems 100% but it may help.
Also there's plenty of g4 stuff floating around if you look for it.
Also you shouldn't have more than 0.25-0.5%/hr idle drain. If you do then somethings wrong. I'd install better battery stats right away and charge up to full and unplug before bed.
Amplify and greenify help but really the display is your battery culprit. I like cf lumen to help adjust the display from day to night usage.
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Guys, horrible day of flashing.
GPS issues with both SD and Jasmine. Tried both stock and SD kernels, as well as 12B and 23C radios, no dice :'(!
Resurrection Remix, not enough options for me and zero GPS locks :'(!
BlissPop came the closest. Bluetooth worked, Xposed, had the options I wanted, but GPS is still not strong enough indoors, and there is an issue WiFi not autoconnecting on each boot :'(!
Long story short, I think I need to head back to 12B somehow. Can anyone please tell me how? I will TOT to 10B, but then, how do I get to 12B? I can't find the image for it anywhere! Please do help, I need a reliable
working phone tomorrow, porting my number into a new carrier...
Thanks in advance!
Some people have to tot back to get gps working. For me, flashing sky always did the trick. Sometimes it takes longer or a reboot, and even setting gps to gps only (strange huh)?
Didn't u make a TWRP backup of working firmware?
I would seriously try flashing skydragon again. Why do u need gps indoors anyway?
Not sure about the tot but I think u can just take updates. Once u get to 10b please make a TWRP backup if you haven't already.
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Some people have to tot back to get gps working. For me, flashing sky always did the trick. Sometimes it takes longer or a reboot, and even setting gps to gps only (strange huh)?
Didn't u make a TWRP backup of working firmware?
I would seriously try flashing skydragon again. Why do u need gps indoors anyway?
Not sure about the tot but I think u can just take updates. Once u get to 10b please make a TWRP backup if you haven't already.
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Thanks for the quick response bud. I will try SD again, maybe, but for now, I liked how Stock felt out of the box which was 12B. I feel like with rooting, manual debloating, and maybe the CPU thermals mods, I would have a snappy 4.2 device.
I'm stupid, I did not Nandroid the 12B I had . Thought it would be like Samsung, each firmware easily available for download on the Internet to flash via the LG Flash Tools.
I will TOT to 10B tomorrow, but then question is, how do I upgrade or OTA to 12B? Would it give me options on which update to take? Or will it take me to the latest, which is 23C?
Appreciate your help or if anyone can! Thank you!
Hello everyone
I am making this post because from reading discussions, there seems to be a large degree of confusion circulating regarding the differences between Verizon branded HTC 10 and the unlocked edition HTC 10, and what software can be used on either and what works on the Verizon network and doesn't. None of the information below is officially endorsed or supported, and I make no guarantees that it will work on your device-- can only vouch what works on mine.
Firstly...if you own an HTC 10 and are a Verizon customer, and your device is S-OFF, this applies to you. Whether it was purchased as an unlocked edition or a Verizon branded edition, the hardware is identical (as far as I understand), and if your device is S-OFF then you can put any software on the device as you so desire. This means when you travel, you can flash GSM firmware, then buy a cheap local prepaid SIM card in your destination country. Or if you get tired of Verizon, you can switch to ATT or TMobile-- or, vice versa, you can switch to Verizon from AT&T or TMobile.
When we get to the subject of firmware, the waters start to get muddy. Generally you are told that if you are on Verizon's network, you must flash only Verizon firmware or your device will not work on their network. This kinda sucks for us Verizon customers, because Verizon is known to be painfully slow at rolling out updates, and there could be serious security holes that are left unpatched while waiting for them to come through.
*However*, I have found that this device runs perfectly fine on Verizon's network with the unlocked-edition firmware (which is significantly more up-to-date as the Verizon firmware), as long as your RADIO partition is flashed with Verizon-specific radio firmware. But aside from the radio partition, none of the software on the other partitions need be Verizon-specific software. This is the method I use for updating to the latest unlocked firmware and Verizon radio (S-OFF requred):
--to update to the latest Verizon radio, flash the latest Verizon firmware-- just search for Verizon htc 10 firmware updates downloads, and you should be able to find it.. I will update this post later with a direct link to that thread..
--next step-- copy your radio partition to a disk image file. boot into recovery, then from adb shell run :
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p30 of=radio.img
exit the shell, use adb pull to pull the radio.img file onto your PC
--step 3. flash the newest firmware for the unlocked-edition...
--step 4. flash the radio.img that you extracted earlier. Fastboot flash from bootloader mode (not RUU mode, not download mode-- just regular bootloader mode with the white screen and the tiny menu). 'fastboot flash radio radio.img'
And that's it.. you're good to go.. again, these instructions assume you are S-OFF and are familiar with the basic procedures for flashing firmware. If you wish to do this, it is done at your own risk.
Happy to answer any questions...hopefully some folks here will find this useful .
Well written, appreciate the info. [emoji106]
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Excellent guide, especially for those of us on Verizon who might want to test the waters with other 10-based ROMs. Since Verizon disables certain functions on its own devices (e.g. "Powersaver," SystemUI Tuner), one might want to look at the unlocked ROMs for full features. Thanks.:good:
I'm googling like crazy how to do the ADB Pull part up. lol I'm in bootloader with CMD promt open and i dont know what to type to ADB pull (never attempted this before).
EDIT: So apparently you need supercid to do this and when i try to modify the cid through "htc_fastboot oem writecid 11111111" it fails and I cannot continue. Anyone have luck doing this?
EDIT2: After a reboot, it allowed me to changed the CID. I tried to flash the firmware first (which crashed and I wasn't able to) so that must have caused the inability to change CID.
Answer to my Question by user @sbong
To Backup your Radio:
1. adb shell
2. su (if needed to get a #)
3. dd if=dev/block/mmcblk0p30 of=/sdcard/radio.img
4. exit
5. You'll find the radio image on the internal sd card
Flashing Latest unlocked firmware WIPED my ROM so just a heads up to anyone trying this.
I ran through these steps and flashed the international firmware version 1.95.401.4 and then flashed the radio I had while still on my VZW firmware. I did have to change my MID and CID before the firmware would flash but after I did it flashed successfully. Then I went back to bootloader (white screen with options) and flashed the radio.img file. After doing that and rebooting I am now sitting at the HTC splash screen with the white background and the red text saying this build is for dev purposes only. Any idea what to do at this point? Thanks!
EDIT: I am trying in TWRP to wipe system, data, and boot and then restore my ROM from a TWRP backup. Will post if it boots after doing this.
EDIT 2: Wiping my partitions in TWRP and the doing a restore allowed me to boot...interesting to note I got my firmware from here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EdAHLDDxqf9jH65me_8bY9oXdaYusI0eedpwO6yUY2s/pubhtml under the NoWipe section so it shouldn't have messed with my ROM.
I'm hoping this helps with battery life as previously I was on old VZW firmware but my ROM was running a newer FW base. I heard that could cause battery drain. Now my phone FW matches the FW my ROM was based off of.
Unlocked software doesn't support Verizon advanced calling features. Which is a pretty big no for perfect. Just saying...
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dottat said:
Unlocked software doesn't support Verizon advanced calling features. Which is a pretty big no for perfect. Just saying...
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I'm running unlocked US firmware version 1.95.401.4, but what I did do was extract the radio.img from my VZW firmware first, flashed the US unlocked, then flashed the VZW radio.img and booted up. My HD and WiFi calling is activated and working.
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I'm running unlocked US firmware version 1.95.401.4, but what I did do was extract the radio.img from my VZW firmware first, flashed the US unlocked, then flashed the VZW radio.img and booted up. My HD and WiFi calling is activated and working.
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You still didn't say what rom/software you are running. You can run the firmware from unlocked minus radio while on a Verizon rom and still have these features (why one would do this I have no clue). The unlocked os itself does no have advanced calling built in for Verizon unless it's a custom ROM like what @santod040 built where he added those features back in.
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dottat said:
You still didn't say what rom/software you are running. You can run the firmware from unlocked minus radio while on a Verizon rom and still have these features (why one would do this I have no clue). The unlocked os itself does no have advanced calling built in for Verizon unless it's a custom ROM like what @santod040 built where he added those features back in.
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The reason I flashed the US unlocked 1.95.401.4 is because I am running LeeDroid 2.7.0 which is based off of that firmware. I wanted the FW my ROM was based off of to match the firmware my phone was running. Also, VZW is way behind on FW updates for the 10 and I like to be somewhat up to date on the latest security patches from Google.
pettigrew95 said:
The reason I flashed the US unlocked 1.95.401.4 is because I am running LeeDroid 2.7.0 which is based off of that firmware. I wanted the FW my ROM was based off of to match the firmware my phone was running. Also, VZW is way behind on FW updates for the 10 and I like to be somewhat up to date on the latest security patches from Google.
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Those security updates will be covered on the os side. While leedroid may be based off a 401 build make no mistake that most ril functions required for it to work on Verizon have been carved in from an actual Verizon rom. So in a sense, the parts that actually matter for connectivity are still going to interface best with Verizon firmware.
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dottat said:
Those security updates will be covered on the os side. While leedroid may be based off a 401 build make no mistake that most ril functions required for it to work on Verizon have been carved in from an actual Verizon rom. So in a sense, the parts that actually matter for connectivity are still going to interface best with Verizon firmware.
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Thank you for that info. So is there any benefit then to what I did? Is anything broken in my phone that I don't know about? I have heard that if the FW a ROM was based off didn't match the FW your phone was running it could be a rogue battery drainer, is this true?
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Thank you for that info. So is there any benefit then to what I did? Is anything broken in my phone that I don't know about? I have heard that if the FW a ROM was based off didn't match the FW your phone was running it could be a rogue battery drainer, is this true?
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I would say likely not. As to whether anything is broken... if it's working it hasn't broken anything yet. You have to be careful though when running bits and pieces of mixed firmware because partition structure of the phone can change on htc phones based on aboot/hboot. So you can run into a scenario where a phone might not be partitioned to allow certain size images to flash successfully. Me personally, I would run one or the either. In this case, while on verizon, I would use the verizon firmware even if on a custom based rom. The one exception to this would be a built from the ground up rom like CM or AOSP. Some of these were developed to work solely on specific firmware.. One such variant of this in the htc m8 days was super popular. It was also the number one killer of m8's due to the specific/custom firmware flashing that was recommended in the OP. I can't tell you how many users i attempted to help fix their phones that either would not boot at all or that the phone itself was in a full write protected state.
When we get to the subject of firmware, the waters start to get muddy. Generally you are told that if you are on Verizon's network, you must flash only Verizon firmware or your device will not work on their network. This kinda sucks for us Verizon customers, because Verizon is known to be painfully slow at rolling out updates, and there could be serious security holes that are left unpatched while waiting for them to come through.
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I find this statement sort of funny. Since we are talking firmware and not OS here it's not muddy at all. Verizon is behind on OS updates. Yes they toss in the HTC provided firmware updates as HTC requires.. but make not mistake the OS itself carries the security patches. So thinking you've somehow patched yourself by flashing firmware only is false re-assurement.
If somehow this statement refers to flashing the entire unlocked RUU/ROM/firmware all together and flashing the verizon radio by itself then i stand by my original note that this will get you the latest OS/firmware from HTC which will likely have the best chance at patching security flaws overall.. but the trade off will be advanced calling which is huge for most users.
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I would say likely not. As to whether anything is broken... if it's working it hasn't broken anything yet. You have to be careful though when running bits and pieces of mixed firmware because partition structure of the phone can change on htc phones based on aboot/hboot. So you can run into a scenario where a phone might not be partitioned to allow certain size images to flash successfully. Me personally, I would run one or the either. In this case, while on verizon, I would use the verizon firmware even if on a custom based rom. The one exception to this would be a built from the ground up rom like CM or AOSP. Some of these were developed to work solely on specific firmware.. One such variant of this in the htc m8 days was super popular. It was also the number one killer of m8's due to the specific/custom firmware flashing that was recommended in the OP. I can't tell you how many users i attempted to help fix their phones that either would not boot at all or that the phone itself was in a full write protected state.
I find this statement sort of funny. Since we are talking firmware and not OS here it's not muddy at all. Verizon is behind on OS updates. Yes they toss in the HTC provided firmware updates as HTC requires.. but make not mistake the OS itself carries the security patches. So thinking you've somehow patched yourself by flashing firmware only is false re-assurement.
If somehow this statement refers to flashing the entire unlocked RUU/ROM/firmware all together and flashing the verizon radio by itself then i stand by my original note that this will get you the latest OS/firmware from HTC which will likely have the best chance at patching security flaws overall.. but the trade off will be advanced calling which is huge for most users.
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When you say:
"If somehow this statement refers to flashing the entire unlocked RUU/ROM/firmware all together and flashing the verizon radio by itself then i stand by my original note that this will get you the latest OS/firmware from HTC which will likely have the best chance at patching security flaws overall.. but the trade off will be advanced calling which is huge for most users."
Is this correct? I thought flashing the VZW radio.img would enable advanced calling features to work? I am on a US unlocked FW with VZW radio.img flashed and my advanced calling features are functional on LeeDroid 2.7.0.
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When you say:
"If somehow this statement refers to flashing the entire unlocked RUU/ROM/firmware all together and flashing the verizon radio by itself then i stand by my original note that this will get you the latest OS/firmware from HTC which will likely have the best chance at patching security flaws overall.. but the trade off will be advanced calling which is huge for most users."
Is this correct? I thought flashing the VZW radio.img would enable advanced calling features to work? I am on a US unlocked FW with VZW radio.img flashed and my advanced calling features are functional on LeeDroid 2.7.0.
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Again,, I will restate it. You are NOT on unlocked. You have pieces of the firmware and a custom rom. That custom rom was based off international rom ( Not even the unlocked version as 401 is international and 617 is the actual unlocked variant).
Don't believe me this is a result of custom rom work and not firmware? Flash the unlocked RUU and then the verizon radio to get service. You will notice that advanced calling doesn't exist in the menu for you.
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Again,, I will restate it. You are NOT on unlocked. You have pieces of the firmware and a custom rom. That custom rom was based off international rom ( Not even the unlocked version as 401 is international and 617 is the actual unlocked variant).
Don't believe me this is a result of custom rom work and not firmware? Flash the unlocked RUU and then the verizon radio to get service. You will notice that advanced calling doesn't exist in the menu for you.
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Ok, sorry if my confusion is frustrating ...So basically my advanced calling features are operable due to my ROM and not the fact that I flashed a VZW radio.img on top of the non VZW firmware I flashed? In a nutshell...Is what I have done beneficial in any way or should I just flash back to the VZW 1.85 FW? Thank you for the help here, it is much appreciated!
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Ok, sorry if my confusion is frustrating ...So basically my advanced calling features are operable due to my ROM and not the fact that I flashed a VZW radio.img on top of the non VZW firmware I flashed? In a nutshell...Is what I have done beneficial in any way or should I just flash back to the VZW 1.85 FW? Thank you for the help here, it is much appreciated!
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Not frustrating at all. Don't take my responses as that way and certainly don't stop asking questions because of it. I'm still waking up here today so it's probably how i'm writing my responses lol. Personally I would just run the stock verizon firmware and enjoy your custom rom.
Your advanced call features are working due to leedroid splicing in the functional pieces of the advanced call features from the current verizon rom. I remember using an earlier version of his rom that lacked this feature set. I bailed on his rom pretty quickly when that was the only offering available as i needed advanced calling. A month or so later he added it to the rom later. @santod040 is one verizon dev who can comment here further when he sees this to attest to the fact the only way advanced calling works on verizon while on a non-verizon rom is that the DEV must enable it.
On the CM side of the house i have been involved in tracking down pieces of volte/advanced calling even back on the m9 in order to get it functional and I can tell you there it's not easy. So if you're on a non-vzw based rom and have advanced calling... make sure you thank the guys who baked your rom.
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Not frustrating at all. Don't take my responses as that way and certainly don't stop asking questions because of it. I'm still waking up here today so it's probably how i'm writing my responses lol. Personally I would just run the stock verizon firmware and enjoy your custom rom.
Your advanced call features are working due to leedroid splicing in the functional pieces of the advanced call features from the current verizon rom. I remember using an earlier version of his rom that lacked this feature set. I bailed on his rom pretty quickly when that was the only offering available as i needed advanced calling. A month or so later he added it to the rom later. @santod040 is one verizon dev who can comment here further when he sees this to attest to the fact the only way advanced calling works on verizon while on a non-verizon rom is that the DEV must enable it.
On the CM side of the house i have been involved in tracking down pieces of volte/advanced calling even back on the m9 in order to get it functional and I can tell you there it's not easy. So if you're on a non-vzw based rom and have advanced calling... make sure you thank the guys who baked your rom.
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Ok awesome, that pretty much sums up what I needed to hear! My last question, I have heard in the past that if the phone FW does not match the ROMs FW base it could be a rogue battery drainer, is this true? Part of the reason of me flashing the matching FW that LeeDroid 2.7.0 runs is in case mismatched ROM FW and phone FW does cause some kind of battery drain. I have to say, my phones battery is pretty pathetic even with Amplify, Greenify, Power Nap, etc. Thanks again!
Wow. I don't think I could be more confused. I'm humbly asking for clarity
I've got a Verizon 10 that is s-off, rooted, unlocked and running LeeDroid. The download screen shows 1.19 for the OS and @60504 for the radio. If I don't care about preserving the contents of the internal card, what's the simple path to get the fw/radio updated (looks like 1.85.605.8) and back to LeeDroid? If extracting the radio.img is a requirement, usually that kind of file is linked inline with the threads to root or update the fw. It's not, so alarms are going off in my head that there is a reason a flashable radio isn't right next to the RUU which would be next to the instructions for going from a custom rom like LeeDroid or Viper -> update fw/radio -> back to custom rom.
It took me an hour of reading, and not working, just to figure out I have an old fw/radio and one wrong move would commit myself to a day of reading and trying random things.
I can't stress the humble position I'm in and I did search and try to find the clear path, but I can't see it. Help?
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Wow. I don't think I could be more confused. I'm humbly asking for clarity
I've got a Verizon 10 that is s-off, rooted, unlocked and running LeeDroid. The download screen shows 1.19 for the OS and @60504 for the radio. If I don't care about preserving the contents of the internal card, what's the simple path to get the fw/radio updated (looks like 1.85.605.8) and back to LeeDroid? If extracting the radio.img is a requirement, usually that kind of file is linked inline with the threads to root or update the fw. It's not, so alarms are going off in my head that there is a reason a flashable radio isn't right next to the RUU which would be next to the instructions for going from a custom rom like LeeDroid or Viper -> update fw/radio -> back to custom rom.
It took me an hour of reading, and not working, just to figure out I have an old fw/radio and one wrong move would commit myself to a day of reading and trying random things.
I can't stress the humble position I'm in and I did search and try to find the clear path, but I can't see it. Help?
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For you just flash the custom firmware zip for Verizon that's been posted. You want the one without stock recovery and bootloader.
Going that route updates your phones firmware and saves you from wiping and flashing.
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Thank you! Now to figure out which thread has the file you're referring to. I've looked at them all and I can't tell which one does what you're saying.
Stock Pixel/Pixel XL Kernel + SafetyNet Patch
Current version: android-9.0.0_r0.111
Suitable for build(s): August 2019
Suitable for devices(s): Pixel XL (marlin) | Pixel (sailfish)
I compiled the stock kernel for the Pixel/Pixel XL and applied the SafetyNet patch by sultanxda. The kernel name says marlin, but this also works on sailfish. Google just created one kernel that works on both sailfish (Pixel) and marlin (Pixel XL) devices.
Use case for this kernel:
- If you want to stay completely stock, but have an unlocked bootloader, the SafetyNet is tripped which disables features such as Android Pay and Netflix.
- This kernel is completely stock except for the addition of a patch that removes the SafetyNet check.
- This kernel is only for the builds listed above!!!! This will not work on any prior build.
- All stock features will work with this kernel (since it's just the stock kernel + patch).
- If you do not have an unlocked bootloader there is no need to use this kernel. It's exactly the same as the stock kernel, except with the addition of the SafetyNet patch.
- This will not prevent SafetyNet from tripping for other reasons, like rooting.
- This will not remove the "device corrupted" warning when the phone is turned on or rebooted.
Installation:
- Be prepared with backups or the factory image from Google in case you do something wrong
- Extract kernel from zip file
- Test with command: fastboot boot <filename>
- Flash with command: fastboot flash kernel <filename>
**WARNING**
If flashing this kernel for whatever reason ruins your device, I am not accountable. Use this at your own risk!
The current version will always be attached to this post. Older versions can be found HERE.
(shamelessly copied from Sakete's kernel for the Pixel/Pixel XL, which is no longer being maintained. Thanks for the inspiration, Sakete!)
Wow. I literally just compiled the patched kernel myself just now. What a ninja! While I'll be running my own, thanks for posting this so I didn't have to
For those who already downloaded the kernel, I checked and saw a new mr2.1 update so I've attached an updated kernel.
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For those who already downloaded the kernel, I checked and saw a new mr2.1 update so I've attached an updated kernel.
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Mine is based on that but mr2 and mr2.1 have the same commit so I'm pretty sure it's the same kernel.
Cheers
I'm running a pixel on the nof27b build I don't really want to flash a new kernel would it be possible for you to make the patch a flashable zip
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Mine is based on that but mr2 and mr2.1 have the same commit so I'm pretty sure it's the same kernel.
Cheers
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Good catch, I didn't look that closely before recompiling but they are indeed the same. Oh well! Maybe I'll start going off of tag names instead of branches...
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I'm running a pixel on the nof27b build I don't really want to flash a new kernel would it be possible for you to make the patch a flashable zip
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Curious - what difference is there between flashing a kernel using fastboot and using a flashable zip? Isn't the end result the same?
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Curious - what difference is there between flashing a kernel using fastboot and using a flashable zip? Isn't the end result the same?
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I think he's asking for the patch itself to be a flashable zip so he can patch the boot image while it's already compiled and on the phone. Which AFAIK is impossible
We need one for the Non-Verizon models (N2G47E) & (N2G47J). This modified kernel is only for the Verizon version. If you can compile two more versions for Non-Verizon builds.
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We need one for the Non-Verizon models (N2G47E) & (N2G47J). This modified kernel is only for the Verizon version. If you can compile two more versions for Non-Verizon builds.
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I was thinking the same thing, That K is for the Verizon model. good to know.
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We need one for the Non-Verizon models (N2G47E) & (N2G47J). This modified kernel is only for the Verizon version. If you can compile two more versions for Non-Verizon builds.
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I'll look into it tomorrow!
Thank you.
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We need one for the Non-Verizon models (N2G47E) & (N2G47J). This modified kernel is only for the Verizon version. If you can compile two more versions for Non-Verizon builds.
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I believe the kernel would still work.
It looks like the same kernel is used among NHG47K, N2G47J, and N2G47E, so my patched one should work for all of them. I'll update the post.
I'm just curious... So assuming you have the Google version and the oem unlock switch is fuctional and turned on, if you are not intending to root the device why would you unlock the bootloader? I mean you can always unlock it if you want or need to root, right?
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I'm just curious... So assuming you have the Google version and the oem unlock switch is fuctional and turned on, if you are not intending to root the device why would you unlock the bootloader? I mean you can always unlock it if you want or need to root, right?
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In the past I would always root or install a custom ROM on my phone. I would like to with the Pixel, but I want to keep Android Pay since I use it almost daily and I haven't been satisfied with the root solutions I've seen for the Pixel so far. It seems like Google is doing a good job of making it difficult to root, given the three or four different ways to root a Pixel that I've seen. Also, with the advent of monthly security patches I would imagine it is a growing headache to unroot, flash the update, then re-root each month. Google has also done a great job with the stock experience on the Pixel that the reasons I'd root are fairly minor.
It's also just been a habit of mine that the first thing I do with a phone is to unlock the bootloader. I don't like the idea of artificially restricting full access to a device, whether it's software or hardware. Plus I don't have to deal with the silly anti-theft checks that people encounter when they wipe the phone and sell it legitimately (like with Swappa or eBay). There was also a time when Nexus phones would bootloop after receiving an OTA, and if you weren't already unlocked before the OTA hit you'd be stuck with a bricked phone.
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In the past I would always root or install a custom ROM on my phone. I would like to with the Pixel, but I want to keep Android Pay since I use it almost daily and I haven't been satisfied with the root solutions I've seen for the Pixel so far. It seems like Google is doing a good job of making it difficult to root, given the three or four different ways to root a Pixel that I've seen. Also, with the advent of monthly security patches I would imagine it is a growing headache to unroot, flash the update, then re-root each month. Google has also done a great job with the stock experience on the Pixel that the reasons I'd root are fairly minor.
It's also just been a habit of mine that the first thing I do with a phone is to unlock the bootloader. I don't like the idea of artificially restricting full access to a device, whether it's software or hardware. Plus I don't have to deal with the silly anti-theft checks that people encounter when they wipe the phone and sell it legitimately (like with Swappa or eBay). There was also a time when Nexus phones would bootloop after receiving an OTA, and if you weren't already unlocked before the OTA hit you'd be stuck with a bricked phone.
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Ok, fair enough. As I said I was just curious as to the reasoning. But what do you mean by anti-theft checks? I've never sold a phone so I don't really run into anything like that. But if you ever did need to sell it and you could unlock it at a moment notice wouldn't that suffice? I have a Verizon model locked bl so this is all rather moot to my situation, but I do have a 5x that I can unlock if I had to. I like the idea of being able to toggle the oem switch even though I would still remain locked. Something about being able to flash a factory image that I like. Thanks for your reasoning. Not that I agree or disagree with you entirely hehe. Personally, I just like the security of not being able to access my data if it's ever lost or stolen, but I suppose a concerted effort would get in.
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Ok, fair enough. As I said I was just curious as to the reasoning. But what do you mean by anti-theft checks? I've never sold a phone so I don't really run into anything like that. But if you ever did need to sell it and you could unlock it at a moment notice wouldn't that suffice? I have a Verizon model locked bl so this is all rather moot to my situation, but I do have a 5x that I can unlock if I had to. I like the idea of being able to toggle the oem switch even though I would still remain locked. Something about being able to flash a factory image that I like. Thanks for your reasoning. Not that I agree or disagree with you entirely hehe. Personally, I just like the security of not being able to access my data if it's ever lost or stolen, but I suppose a concerted effort would get in.
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If a locked phone is wiped/factory reset then only the Google account that was previously on the phone is allowed to be added back to the device. Tons of people were selling Nexus phones when this change rolled out, and the people that bought the phones were unable to add their accounts even after factory resetting. By unlocking the bootloader it disables this restriction. Yeah, I could do it at the time of selling the phone but there's always a chance I'd forget if I got out of the habit of unlocking the bootloader.
I thought about it a lot - and I've never lost a phone before so I'm OK with having my phone accessible in that regard. If I lose my phone I'll have bigger issues (like 2FA locking me out of my accounts) anyway.
I'm on Verizon, but I intentionally bought the phone from Google just to be able to unlock the bootloader .
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If a locked phone is wiped/factory reset then only the Google account that was previously on the phone is allowed to be added back to the device. Tons of people were selling Nexus phones when this change rolled out, and the people that bought the phones were unable to add their accounts even after factory resetting. By unlocking the bootloader it disables this restriction. Yeah, I could do it at the time of selling the phone but there's always a chance I'd forget if I got out of the habit of unlocking the bootloader.
I thought about it a lot - and I've never lost a phone before so I'm OK with having my phone accessible in that regard. If I lose my phone I'll have bigger issues (like 2FA locking me out of my accounts) anyway.
I'm on Verizon, but I intentionally bought the phone from Google just to be able to unlock the bootloader .
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I've seen the term 2FA bandied about. I presume that's what you're talking about regarding the lockout. So to clarify, if you don't have an unlocked bootloader you can't sell the device? That seems weird. How do you get your account off? If I gave the phone to my wife she can't add her account?
I've never lost a device either although I have smashed one of them disastrously. But now I have a lot more stuff on the device including some personal pics and videos, password files, banking app and of course AP. I actually think my reasoning was more of like there is so much hacking and theft going on that rather than take a chance let me see what it's like being locked like normal people. It's hasn't been bad at all so far as I'm sure you know since you're not really modded either. I get the OTA on another slot and while it's updating I can use the device and a simple reboot updates it. But the bigger reason is that I got a Verizon model (Pixel 32gb) for $240 and not the $650 the Google one would have cost. I'm not sorry although I will revisit that once the Pixel 2 is released. Black Friday is your friend. I would even have bought the Google Pixel for $350 if they had a deal but they didn't. With a fully functioning 5X I just couldn't justify the full price.
Hmm I extracted the file and used fastboot flash kernel kernel_marlin-3.18-nougat-mr2.img and it gives me an error "error: cannot load 'kernel_marlin-3.18-nougat-mr2.img"
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Hmm I extracted the file and used fastboot flash kernel kernel_marlin-3.18-nougat-mr2.img and it gives me an error "error: cannot load 'kernel_marlin-3.18-nougat-mr2.img"
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After extracting the file I just renamed it to sailfish-image and used that in the command fastboot flash kernel sailfish-image. Flashed fine.
Sent from my Pixel using XDA-Developers Legacy app
DEPRECATED
This firmware is old and deprecated.
See the below link for new firmware and a better root method.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/root-partcyborgrom-aqi6-deodexed-t3702988
You can just flash the BL_ tarball if you don't want to install a new system
but want the better screen and modem drivers.
PART 2: FIRMWARE RELOADED
I have done extensive research into the issues reported by those of you who are still experiencing screen issues.
I was unable to reproduce the screen issue on my then-current firmware with this update.
Not being content to leave people with buggy screens, I learned as much as I could about the s8 firmware.
This is what I did with that information.
Flashable Custom Firmware Package For ALL SM-G950U/U1 ON US CARRIERS
If you have a non-us G950U and want to install this pm me or ask in the thread and ill make one. Its very simple but I wanted to get this out to everyone else ASAP
NOTICE!
This an UPDATE (and More) to the Green/Garbled Screen Issue firmware.
There is NEW firmware to download below, and everyone who is rooted should read on, even if you installed the previous version.
Background
At the core of the issue with the garbled screen, modem panics, and sd card issues are two central themes: Bugs, and Incompatibilities. The S8 family of phones was fraught with issues early in its release, including the infamous "Red Tint', Fingerprint scanner malfunctions, mysteriously poor battery life, and surely a bunch of smaller others. Many of these bugs were caused by issues in the device's underlying firmware. Like most devices, Samsung has worked to fix these bugs and improve device performance throughout the phones lifetime for sale in public.
Root Bugs
The problem was unfortunately worse for users of one of the rooting methods for the S8. The biggest reason for this is that in order to relax security constraints enough to make rooting possible, a "non-user oriented", "factory" combination firmware was used. This firmware, being designed apparently for configuration/repair processes inside a factory, was not tuned to the normal level as the public firmware, likely did not go through the same testing, and ultimately any bugs unique to this "Combination" firmware that did not directly affect basic functionality or also stock were probably largely initially ignored.
This is where most of the issues that you all have had come from.
Finding a Solution
As I was unable to reproduce the issue on my device without resorting to the original firmware shipped out with the root method I used, I decided to think about what made my device different than the other devices reporting these issues. While sure we may have slightly varying hardware and that may contribute to these issues as well. What I am absolutely certain of is that most of us have different releases of software from each other. Not only have people essentially ad-hoc upgraded from the original firmware they rooted with until now, many have not upgraded at all or, only partially upgraded (such as with the pervious version of this).
While I could have simply packaged up my firmware/bootloader flashfire backup, I decided to take it a step further.
THE GOODS
Without further ado, I present to you:
S8Root Improved: A SM-G950U1 Custom Firmware Package for Root Users
This package contains a custom mix of the latest AQH3 STOCK (not combination) firmware used wherever possible with the Necessary boot/kernel images from the combination firmware necessary to keep root working with permissive SELinux. It contains all of the improvements from the previous version, and many more.
RESULTS
I can only speak for myself, but the results I experienced were amazing:
- Better UI Responsiveness.
Things surprise me how they move
- Sharper/brighter screen colors
I thought it couldn't get better than the last version but it has! Everything just looks crisper and are super bright without being oversaturated like with the Adaptie Mode.
- POSSIBLY Improved LTE network connectivity.
Note I said POSSIBLY. I personally regularly experienced 8-10Mb/s download bumps and 2-3Mb/s upload bumps in LTE while moving back and forth from this new firmware. I have my LTE radio locked to a specific channel (there are two i pick up at my place and one is terrible) and I carefully measured -107 to -112 dBm RSRP and -13 to -14 dB RSRQ prior to each measurement. I almost left this out but I figured it would be better to give you the information with no conclusion either way. It ABSOLUTELY could be Atmospheric changes, Traffic level changes, or any other of a million thins. YMMV
- Could POTENTIALLY still any remaining fix long-standing SDCard issues
I did not experience this, but had a few reports from users that did. The same pieces used in that version that would touch SDcard usage are used here, so that fix/improvement will carry over.
DISCLAIMER
Unfortunately proving beyond any shadow of a doubt that this package fixes the issue was impossible . I have TRIED AND TRIED AND TRIED to trigger the screen issues, including tweaking on and off every setting (auto brightness, multiple DPIs, different graphs modes, etc) I could get my hands on and it just was not happening. I used every software/systems trick I could think of to break this again, and I was completely unable to tickle the bug on this firmware, despite being able to reliably trigger it almost on command using my previous firmware.
The only thing left to do is either:
- Get the source from samsung, fix the bug myself, and get them to sign my new kernel image with their key so our locked bootloaders would allow it (HAHA I DOUBT IT)
- Acquire a large fleet of S8s (and S8+s) to run distributed integration testing (like the kind Android use at Google). Well if someone wants to buy me a few dozen s8s and s8+s (each) sure I'll take a month off work and squash this, but otherwise not gonna happen either.
If it STILL happens for you, I'm sorry.
I have done everything I can think of, and if it happens to you and you have suggestions, I'm all ears.
BUT HEY, but this is XDA right? Land of mods like Xposed which will brick one persons device and work flawlessly on the identical one next to it. And we love Xposed don't we?
Despite absolutely hilarious comments to the contrary, this package absolutely meets the (aka "BugFix") as well as just about any android update ever does, given the wide variety of environments, usecases and software configurations out there. I surely hope that this works for you.
Instructions
1) Download the package from the link above.
- Here it is Again for good measure.
2) Reboot into download mode and flash using Comsy Odin
Thats it! I packaged this in a way to make the process as smooth as possible.
There is NO reinstall, NO wipe of any kind, nor ANY further work on your part needed to install and use this.
The file size is small so the download is fast, and again, there is NO WIPE or config change needed.
if (for some inexplicable reason) you want to roll back, or go to 100% stock sans root, that process should not be made any more difficult as well.
Legacy Information
If you were here before and either looked at or downloaded the previous version, AND YOU HAVE NO QUESTIONS you can skip this part.
If you have questions, please read through to the end of the post before asking them, as I tried to answer as many as I could before hand and all of this information still applies.
WHAT IT IS NOT:
I wanted to outline a few things it is NOT about, to make a valliant effort to stem off the flow of questions before they begin (ha!):
NOT: A new Stock ROM for Your Phone
THIS IS NOT A FULL OS BUILD! DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE WHOLE THING AND FLASH IT EXPECTING AN ENTIRELY UPGRADED OS.
There is no full stock AQI1 image I have found. Believe me I looked a bunch of places after I found it
NOT: Oreo Early Preview
Given the predictions that the next release from Samsung would likely be Oreo, there was some initial over excitement. This wound up being NOT the case and if you read at least current Samsung Oreo projections they are predicting AQB now.
NOT: A Fix for the 80% Battery Issue
I know this is completely futile to hope for but:
THIS DOES NOT FIX THE 80% BATTERY ISSUE!!!!
NO WE DO NOT HAVE A FIX FOR THAT OR ONE COMING ANY TIME SOON!
YES SOME PEOPLE ARE STILL TRYING!
PLEASE DO NOT ASK! OFF TOPIC FOR THS THREAD
NOT: Currently Tested by ANYONE but ME
Since the moment I installed this I have not had ONE SINGLE screen issue, where previously I would have them several times throughout the day (at least 3 sometimes upwards of 6). For the case of ME and MY device, I am confident in declaring that this boot ROM does not have the same kernel bug that was causing the issue on the boot.img provided as part of your traditional root method.
NOTE: This is for the s8 G950 US Snapdragon models ONLY! Do NOT Flash this on your exynos, your Chinese/HK S8, your N8, your MOTO RAZR flip phone, whatever else you have. Kernels/boot.img files are very device specific and you will surely break it if not completely brick it.
DISCLAIMER:
YOUR WARRANTY IS ALREADY VOID if you are paying attention and are doing this to fix bugs with the existing sampwnd root.
HOWEVER IT IS EVEN VOIDER NOW. FLASH THUS TO YOUR DEVICE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
and if you break it I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE! FLASH AT YOUR OWN RISK!
As I said I have not tested this anywhere but my phone as I dont have any other s8s nor do I have access to any locally. I hope it works for you as well as it has for me.
STEPS
Download Boot Image
Use the URL here to Download the AQI1 boot.img file: Go Download the New Hotness
Prepare Phone for Flashing in FlashFire
If you did not download it on your phone, copy it somewhere FlashFire can see it.
Flash it
Open up FlashFire
Hit the "+" button
Select the "Flash Firmware Package" option, NOT the "Flash Zip or OTA" option!
You should see a popup window thing that has a checkbox next to the word BOOT, with "boot.img, 22MiB" underneath.
Make sure the checkbox is checked.
Make sure that it says BOOT above boot.img.
I have no idea if its possible for this to get messed up, but BOOT implies flashing the BOOT partition so if it says something else you are headed towards brick town, abort immediately.
Press the Check mark at the top right corner once you have confirmed the two things above.
MAKE SURE EVER ROOT IS DISABLED!!!
Click on the "Reboot" box, and choose "Recovery". MAKE SURE PRESERVE RECOVERY IS NOT CHECKED!
Back at the main menu, click the lightening bolt next to the word FLASH. Confirm.
Wait for FlashFire to do its thing. Sometimes it takes a minute for FF to wake up and start flashing. Occasionally for me it never happens, if this happens DO NOT PANIC ITS FINE. Hold down power+volDown until you eventually wind up in upload mode, then just reboot normally and everything will come back fine.
When FlashFire finishes (it will go really fast, the image is only 22MB we arent flashing a 5GB system here), it will auto-reboot your device into the recovery men
Select Wipe Cache and Confirm
This will wipe cache which is fine and safe. Again maybe not needed, feel free to skip if you know what you are doing. If you mess up and accidentally click factory reset instead, please tell me so I can laugh at you.
Reboot into a Clear New World
Select reboot and boot the system normally. If you formatted the cache partition above, it will take a little longer to start your phone. This is just the first time per normal.
Thats it! Welcome to the world of clear screens and bright colors. It could be a total placebo effect but I actually think this kernel drives the display better sometimes.
Please let me know what you think, and if this works for you. I wi;; be here for a while to answer questions or fix anything i typoed above or whatever.
FYI: A s8+ thread is coming too, as I sprung for purchasing both downloads to be an equal opportunity XDAer (at least with US flagship Samsung devices lol) but since I have an s8 and thus had the files locally already I made this one first
@jhofseth for nerding out with me the last few nights on trying crazy **** to get a bootloader unlock which prompted me to dig at this in the first place
Most of all, all of the tons of you who have made so many aewesome mods, themes, apps, what have you that I use every day and that make me enjoy my device all the more. I could not be happier to have the opportunity to give back a little.
Here is the restof the s8 combo firm if you are interested, but don't just flash this as its not a full OS:
EDIT: DOWNLOAD THE NEW ONE ABOVE
Can I Get The Link To The S8+ Boot im willing to try it
Mark805 said:
Can I Get The Link To The S8+ Boot im willing to try it
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Coming very soon I promise! 10m max
Ok thanks
Mark805 said:
Can I Get The Link To The S8+ Boot im willing to try it
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Its up now! https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...sampwnd-root-green-screen-corruption-t3673815
whats the bootloader verison? it can be found by booting into download mode manually.
Cameron581 said:
whats the bootloader verison? it can be found by booting into download mode manually.
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This isn't a bootloader change, it's boot.img which is the kernel and root filesystem essentially
Hey, btw this does not void warranty. I understand it's a standard disclaimer but it doesn't void it. It doesn't trip knox, so warranty is still very intact.
mweinbach said:
Hey, btw this does not void warranty. I understand it's a standard disclaimer but it doesn't void it. It doesn't trip knox, so warranty is still very intact.
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Uh just because their service does not catch you does not mean that technically you are not violating your warranty contract thus making using technically illegal
That would be like saying "it's not murder if you leave no forensics!" Lol
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Uh just because their service does not catch you does not mean that technically you are not violating your warranty contract thus making using technically illegal
That would be like saying "it's not murder if you leave no forensics!" Lol
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i mean legally a warranty can not be void through software modifications unless it causes physical damage to the device. Since the efuse was not tripped no physical damage has been caused and no warranties have legally been void.
I had the green screen/graphics corruption after flashing this still...
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I had the green screen/graphics corruption after flashing this still...
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Apparently this happens to some people. I am fairly certain it is a firmware combination issue but I haven't been able to track it down. One thing you can do to eliminate it if you have the issue still (please let me know if this does not work) is to disable auto brightness.
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Apparently this happens to some people. I am fairly certain it is a firmware combination issue but I haven't been able to track it down. One thing you can do to eliminate it if you have the issue still (please let me know if this does not work) is to disable auto brightness.
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I have auto brightness off and still get it here and there.
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I had the green screen/graphics corruption after flashing this still...
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Please check out the OP again and download/flash the new version. Rather than just a few files, its a whole new entire bootloader/kernel package that I assembled piece by piece to have as much latest stock firmware as possible while maintaining what we need for root.
My primary suspect for why some people experience this regression is having older parts of their system. Rather than push everyone to upgrade, I made a painless upgrade process for all of their firmware instead
This includes the Radio drivers and bootloaders, kernels and flash layer libraries. Its all either latest stock or its AQI1 Combination because it was absolutely necessary.
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Please check out the OP again and download/flash the new version. Rather than just a few files, its a whole new entire bootloader/kernel package that I assembled piece by piece to have as much latest stock firmware as possible while maintaining what we need for root.
My primary suspect for why some people experience this regression is having older parts of their system. Rather than push everyone to upgrade, I made a painless upgrade process for all of their firmware instead
This includes the Radio drivers and bootloaders, kernels and flash layer libraries. Its all either latest stock or its AQI1 Combination because it was absolutely necessary.
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We flash the tar in the AP slot correct?
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We flash the tar in the AP slot correct?
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Yep
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Seems to be running better to me. Thanks bro
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We flash the tar in the AP slot correct?
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It actually does not matter, as Odin will do the right thing no matter what.
Sorry I should have made that clear. I will update the op to make that clear
Just wanna make sure of something. First, I flash the first download files through modded doin, then afterwards, flash the second file in ff?
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Just wanna make sure of something. First, I flash the first download files through modded doin, then afterwards, flash the second file in ff?
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Nope, only need the tar file bud. The old boot.img file is just basically the previous version of this.
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Just wanna make sure of something. First, I flash the first download files through modded doin, then afterwards, flash the second file in ff?
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The old image is actually part of the new tar, do you will have it anyway . I packaged it in Odin this time because there are some pieces of firmware FF either can't or warns against using it for. Plus one clean simple tar seemed easier, no?
Do you see the boot.img in the op? I thought I nixed all the instances of the link but I may have missed one.
I almost rewrote all the old text to reflect now but it felt like editing history so I tried to preserve what made the most sense still. It sounds like it's still a little confusing sobrskr another crack at it shortly.
Please let me know if you have any trouble! I'll be here to help all evening
Hello guys this guide is for who want to root phone without disabling ota updates.
(BOOTLOODER SHOULD BE UNLOCK)
BIG THANKS FOR MAKING PATCHED BOOT IMg @Jan.Pul
IAM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY CAUSE OF YOUR DEVICE DO IT ON OWN RISK)
1)Download patched boot.img from link below
2)copy that patched boot.img to your adb folder
3) adb debugging should be on and oem unlock should be on for unlock bootlooder
4)turn off your device and go into fastboot mode by pressing holding volume down and power key
5) check whether fastboot detect your device or not by typing this command on (cmd) FASTBOOT DEVICES
6) if fastboot shows that your device is connected your good to go
7) you need to boot into patched boot.img for this type a command FASTBOOT BOOT patched_boot.img your device will boot automatically
8) download magisk manager apk from google and. Open ur magisk manager and install ad direct method and reboot
If you get bootloop dont worry just press your power key for 5sec it will boot automatically
PATCH BOOT IMG : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cU6qOMiHlGdSAbRtMVgTlHummcGksnt6/view?usp=drivesdk
Guessing this is for the Indian/Chinese version and the bnd-l24 is still sitting on the shelf? And rooting without making a backup isn't usually the smartest thing to do but we all know that.
Is there a source this came from by any chance?
Yes..But Why?
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maximran said:
this guide is for who want to root phone without disabling ota updates.
(IAM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR AMY CAUSE OF YOUR DEVICE DO IT ON OWN RISK)
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rooting without making a backup isn't usually the smartest thing to do but we all know that.
Is there a source this came from by any chance?
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I Eh... Would Love To See This Happen..
I'm... still at a loss to understand why so many people want to root the 7x... Now?
There is an adaway substitute available... ( Search it if you care to ) no root needed.
You can adjust DPI...
You have Themes....
You can remove apps from user view... ( Search it if you care to )
And.... removing unwanted apps WILL NOT free up more RAM.. RAM Management will just fill the allotted space with something else...
You need to make a backup ??? Eh.... Your Stock Software WILL NOT FAIL Unless you are in there messing with it or, are installing illegal apps that are cancering your unit.
Battery Management apps like Greenify? really? how many of you even have to use the Power Saving options already installed in the 7x? I'm getting a day and a half easy.. without using any of the Power Saving options.. YMMV of course.
Oreo is 3 to 4 weeks away.
There still, is No Stock Image Available from Honor to turn to should your Rooting efforts fail you.
So, What possible benefits are you getting by Rooting Nougat Now..
It's YOUR device.. and I wish you the best of luck should you find a reason that you feel justifies the need to root right now..
I'm going to Root my 7x as well... once a Stock Image is available from Honor and, EMUI / OREO 8.0 , The Updated Security Patch and Facial Unlock / AR options are delivered.. That will hold me for the 6 - 7 months I'll own the 7x.
I am just so curious why so many would gamble with Root.. with no clear cut method of being able to recover from a catastrophe.... and no real benefit at this time.
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maximran said:
I Eh... Would Love To See This Happen..
I'm... still at a loss to understand why so many people want to root the 7x... Now?
There is an adaway substitute available... ( Search it if you care to ) no root needed.
You can adjust DPI...
You have Themes....
You can remove apps from user view... ( Search it if you care to )
And.... removing unwanted apps WILL NOT free up more RAM.. RAM Management will just fill the allotted space with something else...
You need to make a backup ??? Eh.... Your Stock Software WILL NOT FAIL Unless you are in there messing with it or, are installing illegal apps that are cancering your unit.
Battery Management apps like Greenify? really? how many of you even have to use the Power Saving options already installed in the 7x? I'm getting a day and a half easy.. without using any of the Power Saving options.. YMMV of course.
Oreo is 3 to 4 weeks away.
There still, is No Stock Image Available from Honor to turn to should your Rooting efforts fail you.
So, What possible benefits are you getting by Rooting Nougat Now..
It's YOUR device.. and I wish you the best of luck should you find a reason that you feel justifies the need to root right now..
I'm going to Root my 7x as well... once a Stock Image is available from Honor and, EMUI / OREO 8.0 , The Updated Security Patch and Facial Unlock / AR options are delivered.. That will hold me for the 6 - 7 months I'll own the 7x.
I am just so curious why so many would gamble with Root.. with no clear cut method of being able to recover from a catastrophe.... and no real benefit at this time.
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Oh I agree with ya. I'm not fooling with mine until a definitive stable method comes out after oreo. I might even hold off until we start getting some custom rooms and kernels. I've unlocked my bootloader and that's about the extent of my Honor 7x modding for the time being.
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A Question Sir..
str8stryk3r said:
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Oh I agree with ya. I'm not fooling with mine until a definitive stable method comes out after oreo. I might even hold off until we start getting some custom rooms and kernels. I've unlocked my bootloader and that's about the extent of my Honor 7x modding for the time being.
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Have You Tried "Re-Locking" Your Bootloader.. And Then Doing A Factory Reset?
Just asking because.. I thought.. (And I Could Be 100% WRONG) I read somewhere that, relocking using the command line causes the 7x to brick..
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Have You Tried "Re-Locking" Your Bootloader.. And Then Doing A Factory Reset?
Just asking because.. I thought.. (And I Could Be 100% WRONG) I read somewhere that, relocking using the command line causes the 7x to brick..
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No I unlocked the bootloader so I wouldn't have to in the future. Why, bootloader unlocking China cause me to not be able to do ota updates? I was under the impression that only rooting and installing twrp would cause issues with ota but I could've read wrong
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@maximran, root with Magisk "KEEPFORCEENCRYPT=true"; but if I change to "false", should work too?
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No I unlocked the bootloader so I wouldn't have to in the future. Why, bootloader unlocking China cause me to not be able to do ota updates? I was under the impression that only rooting and installing twrp would cause issues with ota but I could've read wrong
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True, even I have unlocked my bootloader but I still received OTA.
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@maximran, root with Magisk "KEEPFORCEENCRYPT=true"; but if I change to "false", should work too?
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It will not work
Interesting!
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RaiderWill said:
No I unlocked the bootloader so I wouldn't have to in the future. Why, bootloader unlocking China cause me to not be able to do ota updates? I was under the impression that only rooting and installing twrp would cause issues with ota but I could've read wrong
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True, even I have unlocked my bootloader but I still received OTA.
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Really ?
Please.. let me know once the update arrives.
I've NEVER seen a Signed O.T.A. software update package walk through the front door of a device with an Unsecured Bootloader.
Aren't you guys getting the "Exclamation Warning" screen when you first boot up letting you know your device is officially "Unsecure" ?
I'm not rooting Nougat.. just curious.. you normally get an "Update Failed!" message.. Thanks!
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RaiderWill said:
str8stryk3r said:
Asder.mko said:
Really ?
Please.. let me know once the update arrives.
I've NEVER seen a Signed O.T.A. software update package walk through the front door of a device with an Unsecured Bootloader.
Aren't you guys getting the "Exclamation Warning" screen when you first boot up letting you know your device is officially "Unsecure" ?
I'm not rooting Nougat.. just curious.. you normally get an "Update Failed!" message.. Thanks!
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Well, I got the OTA in December itself but since I had rooted and installed twrp recovery, I wasn't able to install the update.
Yes, we get that " your device is not secure... Blah blah blah..."
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str8stryk3r said:
Asder.mko said:
Really ?
Please.. let me know once the update arrives.
I've NEVER seen a Signed O.T.A. software update package walk through the front door of a device with an Unsecured Bootloader.
Aren't you guys getting the "Exclamation Warning" screen when you first boot up letting you know your device is officially "Unsecure" ?
I'm not rooting Nougat.. just curious.. you normally get an "Update Failed!" message.. Thanks!
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Before I went ahead an unlocked my bootloader I checked as many sources as I could about if whether or not I'd still be able ota update and the vast majority of the things I read states that what causes the update to fail is not having stock rom and not having stock recovery. The bootloader being unlocked doesn't modify those or any system files so everything should be fine. Unless Huawei changed things specifically for our Honor 7x then there shouldn't be any problems with ota updates. I guess I'll find out when the L24 people start saying they got updates and I don't receive it or can't install it
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Well, that's quite right. I don't know whether Huawei/Honor implemented THAT thing, but yeah reverting back to stock conditions wand applying OTA wouldn't be an issue!
( P.S - I'm stuck here too as I have OTA update since December but haven't reverted to stock to install it. I don't yet know properly about manual installation! )
(I haven't received my 7x yet and I haven't had any recent experience with Huawei OTA updates and I am not advocating that anyone should alter their phones in any way which would void their warranties... )
However, I was surprised to hear in this forum that Huawei has made things more restrictive since the Mate2. Given that you can still obtain bootloader unlock codes (and the only reason AFAIK is to allow you to flash a new recovery) and that Huawei has publicly committed to open-source and has given 7x's to developers, it seems contrary to a "lockdown" philosophy. Rather, it would appear as they are still encouraging 3rd party development to prolong product lifespan in order to attract cheapskates like me who still use a 4-year old phone.
Things may have changed but In order to get OTA updates, here were some of the issues on the Mate2 :
Some people had a difficult time obtaining the bootloader unlock codes. Either you can get a code or you couldn't. Without an unlocked bootloader, you can't flash a different recovery.
You "can't" flash TWRP. That's not entirely true. You needed to restore the appropriate version of Huawei recovery before each OTA, because update.zip can only be interpreted by the appropriate recovery. (Think format differences between CWM and TWRP.)
You were able to root and still obtain OTA. (Albeit, there was only one OTA. The rest had to be downloaded to SD and flashed. But that was okay back then 'cause no one outside of China really knew about Huawei.) The updates weren't checking whether you had modified the existing software or not. Once you've voided your warranty, Huawei didn't care if you then decide to then make your phone more vulnerable or accidentally brick it. The problem was that the update could fail if you remove a piece of bloatware that Huawei decided to update. (The folders would be missing for example. And the update would not recover gracefully.)
But a big THANKS to previous posters which reminded me to backup everything (basically as soon as I receive my 7x).
Oh....if you are flashing a custom recovery, you should also backup the "stock" recovery after each OTA update. Sometimes the recovery is also updated. (That's what I meant by "appropriate" version.)
iammudd said:
(I haven't received my 7x yet and I haven't had any recent experience with Huawei OTA updates and I am not advocating that anyone should alter their phones in any way which would void their warranties... )
However, I was surprised to hear in this forum that Huawei has made things more restrictive since the Mate2. Given that you can still obtain bootloader unlock codes (and the only reason AFAIK is to allow you to flash a new recovery) and that Huawei has publicly committed to open-source and has given 7x's to developers, it seems contrary to a "lockdown" philosophy. Rather, it would appear as they are still encouraging 3rd party development to prolong product lifespan in order to attract cheapskates like me who still use a 4-year old phone.
Things may have changed but In order to get OTA updates, here were some of the issues on the Mate2 :
Some people had a difficult time obtaining the bootloader unlock codes. Either you can get a code or you couldn't. Without an unlocked bootloader, you can't flash a different recovery.
You "can't" flash TWRP. That's not entirely true. You needed to restore the appropriate version of Huawei recovery before each OTA, because update.zip can only be interpreted by the appropriate recovery. (Think format differences between CWM and TWRP.)
You were able to root and still obtain OTA. (Albeit, there was only one OTA. The rest had to be downloaded to SD and flashed. But that was okay back then 'cause no one outside of China really knew about Huawei.) The updates weren't checking whether you had modified the existing software or not. Once you've voided your warranty, Huawei didn't care if you then decide to then make your phone more vulnerable or accidentally brick it. The problem was that the update could fail if you remove a piece of bloatware that Huawei decided to update. (The folders would be missing for example. And the update would not recover gracefully.)
But a big THANKS to previous posters which reminded me to backup everything (basically as soon as I receive my 7x).
Oh....if you are flashing a custom recovery, you should also backup the "stock" recovery after each OTA update. Sometimes the recovery is also updated. (That's what I meant by "appropriate" version.)
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My thoughts exactly. Why would they provide they website to unlock the bootloader if that kept ota updates from going through. The only thing that's really holding back the development of this device is Huawei hasn't released the full stock firmware package yet. I have the L24 version so it's exciting seeing L21/A10 making some progress because it's only a matter of time until things start to kick off all around.
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My thoughts exactly. Why would they provide they website to unlock the bootloader if that kept ota updates from going through. The only thing that's really holding back the development of this device is Huawei hasn't released the full stock firmware package yet. I have the L24 version so it's exciting seeing L21/A10 making some progress because it's only a matter of time until things start to kick off all around.
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No need for full fw broh need vendor partitions, device tree, kernel sources
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No need for full fw broh need vendor partitions, device tree, kernel sources
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Lmao, and that's why I'm not a developer. I just know having the stock image files is important so that when something gets screwed up got have something to fall back on.
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Yes, we get that " your device is not secure... Blah blah blah..."
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That Answers My Question As To Wether Or Not You Do See The Unsecure Msg..
Anyway.. Great Discussion.
Fact or Fiction... who will get the updates via O.T.A. ? The Non-Rooted, The Rooted.. or Both.
Even with Project Treble... will this device ever take off with Developer support ?
Will Huawei / Honor release a stock image of Nougat and Oreo ? ( Eh, Honor.. it's been 60 days since Kernel source was released.. and you know people are Rooting away.. why have you not released the stock Nougat image for the 7x?) and don't use working on EMUI & OREO as an excuse.. that's simply not good enough.. :angel:
I'm going to enjoy laying back... and watching how this unfolds.
Re-Reading my own words, as to what is the motivation for everyone Rooting Nougat now.. and what is anyone getting out of doing it.. because so much of what you would normally do with Admin Access is already incorperated into the 7x.. is there really a need to even Root whats coming without something like a Stable Linage / Franco Kernel combo ROM available vs a 100% stable Factory Fresh EMUI / Oreo 8.0 setup.
For me, it will be a fun to see what key Developers, ROM's and support in general.. the 7x actually gets.. and at what point they release firmware for restoration purposes.
You Just Never Know.
RaiderWill said:
That Answers My Question As To Wether Or Not You Do See The Unsecure Msg..
Anyway.. Great Discussion.
Fact or Fiction... who will get the updates via O.T.A. ? The Non-Rooted, The Rooted.. or Both.
Even with Project Treble... will this device ever take off with Developer support ?
Will Huawei / Honor release a stock image of Nougat and Oreo ? ( Eh, Honor.. it's been 60 days since Kernel source was released.. and you know people are Rooting away.. why have you not released the stock Nougat image for the 7x?) and don't use working on EMUI & OREO as an excuse.. that's simply not good enough.. :angel:
I'm going to enjoy laying back... and watching how this unfolds.
Re-Reading my own words, as to what is the motivation for everyone Rooting Nougat now.. and what is anyone getting out of doing it.. because so much of what you would normally do with Admin Access is already incorperated into the 7x.. is there really a need to even Root whats coming without something like a Stable Linage / Franco Kernel combo ROM available vs a 100% stable Factory Fresh EMUI / Oreo 8.0 setup.
For me, it will be a fun to see what key Developers, ROM's and support in general.. the 7x actually gets.. and at what point they release firmware for restoration purposes.
You Just Never Know.
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People like to root and mod their own devices for their own reasons but you're right, a lot of the reasons I modded past devices was because the roms almost always ran better than stock but the 7x imho runs great. Used to be kernels for better battery life and such. I like custom roms because I like to be able to do certain things that stock roms limited as far as customizing goes. A lot of people hate bloat and end up deleting every file on the phone that isn't necessary or to their liking to make the rom as minimal as possible.
But as of now I'm happy with the phone and don't feel the urge to need to root and and a custom recovery. The roms that eventually come would have to offer something worthwhile to flash. But hell, that's subject to change given how I'm feeling that day lol. There's a new AOSP based rom in another thread that sounds promising
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Will Huawei / Honor release a stock image of Nougat and Oreo ? ...
Re-Reading my own words, as to what is the motivation for everyone Rooting Nougat now.. and what is anyone getting out of doing it.. because so much of what you would normally do with Admin Access is already incorperated into the 7x..
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I assume that you already know this ... but I should mention it for others that you can run TWRP (if there is a version for one's phone) without flashing it. (I don't have my 7x yet, so I prob really shouldn't be trying to give detailed instructions anyways.) From there, you can make backups of the stock image, stock recovery, etc. (So thx again to this forum for reminding me that I should backup all stock images as soon as I receive my 7x so that MY fingerprints are not all over the backups.)
As to rooting, there ARE at least 2 things that Huawei hasn't provided without root:
Yes, I can make app backups (and/or use the Huawei "easy transfer"... not sure what app that is at the moment) but I'd assume that I won't be able to transfer it to a non-Huawei device. That's why I continue to use Titanium Backup.
USB Mass Storage Enabling (and by extension Selinux Passive mode). I want fast transfer to my desktop, etc.... and I want a drive-letter (yes, there are Win programs which only work with drive letters). Without UMS, I haven't found a way to do that.