I've had a stock s4 battery for a while and recently its been draining pretty fast. I've changed roms many times but the end result is always still the same bad battery life. At this point, I'm wondering if my battery is just degraded. I drain 10 percent from 2 hours idle . Also, wakelock detector isn't detecting anything unusual.
Does anyone have experience with a degraded/bad battery? Besides a bad battery life, is there any other defining feature.
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I've had a stock s4 battery for a while and recently its been draining pretty fast. I've changed roms many times but the end result is always still the same bad battery life. At this point, I'm wondering if my battery is just degraded. I drain 10 percent from 2 hours idle . Also, wakelock detector isn't detecting anything unusual.
Does anyone have experience with a degraded/bad battery? Besides a bad battery life, is there any other defining feature.
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check to see if the battery is physically swollen; somewhat common problem for the s4. the swelling may only be slight, but if you're able to spin it on a flat surface, you should replace it.
Mine has been that bad since out of the box. Worst performing battery out of any Android I've ever owned. It's my only gripe about the phone except for the locked bootloader. Like you, I've tried virtually every ROM out there and its always the same issue. I was hoping a blacked out ROM would help but it hasn't really.
I ordered a zerolemon 3000 mah battery to replace the stock one. Hopefully this will fix any battery issues.
Raymondlikesroot said:
I ordered a zerolemon 3000 mah battery to replace the stock one. Hopefully this will fix any battery issues.
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Interesting. Would you mind posting your experience back here once you try it out for a few days? I suspect you will need to calibrate it when you first install it too.
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Interesting. Would you mind posting your experience back here once you try it out for a few days? I suspect you will need to calibrate it when you first install it too.
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Yeah, I can definitely do that.
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I was just wondering on how long your battery life was, I guess when comparing to idle time. I ask because this was the main issue of mine as to why I havent flashed anything. When idle I was getting up to about 3 - 4 days of battery.
If battery life is important to you I would avoid all ROMs other than stock.
Flashing 3rd party ROMs is likely to damage you battery calibrator which causes you battery life to drain rapidly since calibration gets all screwed up.
Nobody knows specifically what is causing this serious issue but what we do know is that it happens when you flash a 3rd party ROM/Kernel.
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If battery life is important to you I would avoid all ROMs other than stock.
Flashing 3rd party ROMs is likely to damage you battery calibrator which causes you battery life to drain rapidly since calibration gets all screwed up.
Nobody knows specifically what is causing this serious issue but what we do know is that it happens when you flash a 3rd party ROM/Kernel.
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hey! can you please keep all your posts in one thread? it's getting hard for me to track your progress.
thx man.
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I was just wondering on how long your battery life was, I guess when comparing to idle time. I ask because this was the main issue of mine as to why I havent flashed anything. When idle I was getting up to about 3 - 4 days of battery.
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custom roms usually use the stock kernel. what you get on your stock rom, you should get on a custom.
battery life is also subjective and variable, depending on your useage patterns, etc.
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If battery life is important to you I would avoid all ROMs other than stock.
Flashing 3rd party ROMs is likely to damage you battery calibrator which causes you battery life to drain rapidly since calibration gets all screwed up.
Nobody knows specifically what is causing this serious issue but what we do know is that it happens when you flash a 3rd party ROM/Kernel.
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Once again... lick my butthole 5thelement. Man you really bring out the class in me tonight bro.
I've been using task650s ROM with great battery life. I did have the battery drain issue which I don't think is really ROM related but once I went through the suggested calibration on this forum everything has been great. Think I've had my Tab on for 5-6 days with it at idle through the night and earlier parts of the day and using it for internet browsing and music around the house each evening. Turned it off last night with 30-40% battery left (just a guess).
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If battery life is important to you I would avoid all ROMs other than stock.
Flashing 3rd party ROMs is likely to damage you battery calibrator which causes you battery life to drain rapidly since calibration gets all screwed up.
Nobody knows specifically what is causing this serious issue but what we do know is that it happens when you flash a 3rd party ROM/Kernel.
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Yea I am familiar with screwed up battery life calibration on my Captivate. I was getting anywhere from 8 hours to a day and a half which was why I was asking.
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I've been using task650s ROM with great battery life. I did have the battery drain issue which I don't think is really ROM related but once I went through the suggested calibration on this forum everything has been great. Think I've had my Tab on for 5-6 days with it at idle through the night and earlier parts of the day and using it for internet browsing and music around the house each evening. Turned it off last night with 30-40% battery left (just a guess).
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Really? Hmm thats good to know, I will look into that one then if I consider flashing.
Heavy usage (a lot of browsing, notes, some games) nets me a little over a day. My usage can be heavy and nonstop.
My average is around 2 days before I have to charge. That's mostly moderate heavy. My usage is abnormal but I can say I'm happy with its battery life.
Using tasks rom and pershoots kernel.
My usage is heavy everyday so I get about 7 - 8 hours of screen time by the time I go to bed and usually I am around 30% - 35% left. I use it all day for when I am on the train or in class. Running Starburst KME at the moment but I got the same average battery life on all ROMs using stock kernel. Pershoots kernel is reliable and I could go an extra day if I wanted.
My galaxy tab got big problem on battery.Fully charged on 6am morning,airplane mode without any use,by 7pm night i left 50% battery.Baseband version P7500KWXG1 firmware upgrade from samsung kies.
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My galaxy tab got big problem on battery.Fully charged on 6am morning,airplane mode without any use,by 7pm night i left 50% battery.Baseband version P7500KWXG1 firmware upgrade from samsung kies.
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yeah, battery life for the galaxy tabs seems to be pretty poor! i just can use my 10.1v (stock) for only about 3 or 4 days. just for a little bit of wifi surfing and ebook reading (wifi switches off during standby).
i really love my galaxy tab, and i hated my ipad, but regarding battery life i used to charge my ipad only once a month!!! really. and i used it exactly for the same things as my galaxy tab.
samsung promised it to have similar battery life as the ipad...one more lie from them...
Hi there,
I've been having a problem for some time now with stock S3 ROM (4.1.2), and now that I've rooted my phone, I noticed it consists with both CM11 and Revolutionary S5. So it's probably the hardware, but if anyone could give me any kind of assistance or direction, I would be grateful.
Here is a recent shot of my battery life: http://imagebin.org/309592
As you can see, I nearly ran out of battery in 2 intervals of charge lasting about 4-5 hours.
If I use my phone moderately, only using like a few apps for 2 hours, it wouldn't last more than 5-6 hours.
If I only use it to respond to texts and get through the day, it lasts for 8-9 hours.
I've tried disabling all of the extra components for as long as I could, use power saving mode on the stock/Revolutionary S5 ROMs, Greenify etc.
Another problem I have is that the bottom part below the battery gets freakishly hot by just using a single app for 15 minutes or so. It's getting to the point where I'm uncomfortable holding it.
Is there any solution to my problems? Should I get a new battery? Or something else?
Get a new battery.
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Get a new battery.
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Thanks for your answer! But here's what I'm worried about, the battery doesn't really get hot (unless I'm misunderstanding something), but rather the part below it (I assume it's the SoC). So will that really fix my problems or is it some chip at fault here rather than the battery?
Also, would you recommend going with a Samsung official battery or an alternative?
Battery is the cheapest thing to try, get an official one.
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idowolf said:
Thanks for your answer! But here's what I'm worried about, the battery doesn't really get hot (unless I'm misunderstanding something), but rather the part below it (I assume it's the SoC). So will that really fix my problems or is it some chip at fault here rather than the battery?
Also, would you recommend going with a Samsung official battery or an alternative?
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What applications are using your battery the most?
Have you tried to flash a light ROM? (Bloatware Free)
Try to UC and UV the device and see if it keeps having the overheat problems.
Saad_ said:
What applications are using your battery the most?
Have you tried to flash a light ROM? (Bloatware Free)
Try to UC and UV the device and see if it keeps having the overheat problems.
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Hi Saad_, here's my current battery status:
http://imagebin.org/309724
http://imagebin.org/309725
In the process of taking these screenshots and uploading them, my battery widget showed that my battery's temp went up to about 95-97F. Browsing the gallery and looking at some site on Firefox brings it up to over 100-105F.
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Hi Saad_, here's my current battery status:
http://imagebin.org/309724
http://imagebin.org/309725
In the process of taking these screenshots and uploading them, my battery widget showed that my battery's temp went up to about 95-97F. Browsing the gallery and looking at some site on Firefox brings it up to over 100-105F.
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The battery use is normal. As suggested above I recommend you to try it out with another battery since you said your battery's temp is reaching high limits. Try a new battery and check if the problem still exists.
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The battery use is normal. As suggested above I recommend you to try it out with another battery since you said your battery's temp is reaching high limits. Try a new battery and check if the problem still exists.
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What's a normal temp range for a battery? For reference.
Surprisingly enough, it feels cold/normal, the part below it is what's getting real hot.
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What's a normal temp range for a battery? For reference.
Surprisingly enough, it feels cold/normal, the part below it is what's getting real hot.
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I don't EXACTLY know what is a normal temperature on an S3 but my phone's battery is usually at 33 C (92 F) after web browsing and using Viber / Facebook. You need to try another battery in your phone to find out if the problem is with it or not.
I have been trying out various 4.4.x ROMs (CM, Resurrection Remix, SlimROM) and had varying levels of success but the one issue that I have had consistently with all of them on my SGS2 is battery. 4.4.x seems to devour my battery no matter which ROM I am using (and the different ROMS are using different kernels usual). CM11 has far and away been the most stable so I have stayed with that but it too as failed to resolve my battery issue. I have never had much luck with battery life before but half a day is ridiculous. I thought about trying a different kernel but not sure that would help as #1 I would think the CM team would know better than I what would be the optimal kernel and #2 I have been trying different kernels anyway when I have been trying different ROMS as I believe the different ROMS have all had different kernels. Has anyone else had this issue? More importantly has anyone had any luck resolving this?
I suggest you to replace your battery. Beaware from cheap ones!!! I have I9100 too, i also try many methods to increase my battery life but i reach maximum 10 hours. Then i buy new batteries. It is not original galaxy s2 batteries but i think better than the original one.(1800mAh buy from ebay) Now i use RR kit kat rom with stock kernel my mobile data is always on and I go to bed at %35 percent of batteries.
1. If your battery is quite old, replace it.
2. Check whether you are having any wakelocks. Does it go to deep sleep?
3. When you say battery life as half a day, what is your actual usage? Screen on time, Wi-Fi, 3g, calls etc?
4. Betterbatterystats and greenify are your friends.
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I suggest you to replace your battery. Beaware from cheap ones!!! I have I9100 too, i also try many methods to increase my battery life but i reach maximum 10 hours. Then i buy new batteries. It is not original galaxy s2 batteries but i think better than the original one.(1800mAh buy from ebay) Now i use RR kit kat rom with stock kernel my mobile data is always on and I go to bed at %35 percent of batteries.
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Thanks. My battery is about 2.5 years old, its an Anker battery, 1900mAh that I bought on amazon (I honestly don't know what constitutes "old" for batteries, is 2 1/2 years old?). As for ROMS I was actually running an older version of RR but had serious stability issues (related to sdcard, never was able to resolve it) and battery wasn't great (better than now though) when I upgraded to the newest RR I had some lingering stability issues and battery issues too so just settled on CM11 this time.
banjara said:
1. If your battery is quite old, replace it.
Sorry, but what in your all's opinion makes for an "old" battery? 2, 3 years? or are we talking 4+ is there a way I could test my battery to see if it going bad perhaps?
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2. Check whether you are having any wakelocks. Does it go to deep sleep?
I am not totally clear on wakelocks and deep sleep, I have "Battery Stats" installed (guess its not the same as the betterbatteryapp but seems to give some similar info) but its not clear to me how to read it all. In this case it sayd the stat period is 3 hours 8 minutes and out of that it has been in deep sleep 1h 51m and running time 1h 17m and wifi time 1h 25m and my batter is down to 74%, I am assuming that is not normal? In terms of applications the hogs are defintely the two audio apps poweramp and dogcatcher (they are just at the top of the list, the numbers it gives don't really make sense to me)
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3. When you say battery life as half a day, what is your actual usage? Screen on time, Wi-Fi, 3g, calls etc?
Well I have a 3 hour idea of my usage above, I don't use 3 g, I have wifi on about a third of the day perhaps, and actualy screen time probably just an hour or two, I do use it quite a bit for podcasts and music though. But I had tried it with my audio apps uninstalled for a few days and it still drained fairly quickly.
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Will take a look, I kind of liked the battery stats option to compare to stats that others have uploaded, but I haven't checked out greenify.
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Thanks!
If your battery is 2.5 yrs old, that's almost certainly the cause of your issues. Good advice to stick to original Samsung batteries; though there's nothing wrong with the 2000mAh genuine Samsung battery Vs the 1650mAh one - I used one of these for almost two years.
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If your battery is 2.5 yrs old, that's almost certainly the cause of your issues. Good advice to stick to original Samsung batteries; though there's nothing wrong with the 2000mAh genuine Samsung battery Vs the 1650mAh one - I used one of these for almost two years.
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Doh, was hoping I wouldn't have to replace the battery. Actually... that said. Should a 2.5 year old mostly unused 1650mah samsung battery still be good? I think I still have the factory battery around somewhere now that I think about it. When I purchased the Anker battery I seemed to remember it was mainly for price and reputation reasons, not that the Samsung battery had such a bad reputation but the Anker had such a good reputation and a pretty good price.
I will give another battery a try if you say 2.5 years is old, but I do have to admit that the battery drain was not nearly as much of an issue with the older ROM I was using (RR 4.2.x) before, it wasn't stellar but not like this so it seems to me its more than just the batter thats giving me problems here.
Anyway, my phone is still golden other than the battery issues so if i can squeeze another year and a half out of it I'd be a happy camper. Any other thoughts would be welcome (and appreciated!)
Batteries discharge over time if they're stored/not used, ideally you should charge it up to/keep it at around 60-65% every few mths if you're going to store it for that long. If you've not touched it at all in that time, it might not be able to take/hold a charge anymore because that wasn't done.
Only way you're going to find out is if you charge it & use it.
Yeah, if you ended up getting 4 yrs out of a smartphone you'd be rather happy indeed.
If you really want to satisfy yourself as to whether it is indeed the age of the battery you're currently using causing your problems, do a clean install of stock & test that for a week. If it does the same thing with stock, you'll know for definite it is the battery. I'd be very surprised if it isn't though; they're not designed to last much longer than what you've had yours if you're charging/discharging constantly.
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Batteries discharge over time if they're stored/not used, ideally you should charge it up to/keep it at around 60-65% every few mths if you're going to store it for that long. If you've not touched it at all in that time, it might not be able to take/hold a charge anymore because that wasn't done.
Only way you're going to find out is if you charge it & use it.
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doh, yeah haven't touched it; and the life lessons continue (didn't know that about batteries). will try it out, if its gone its gone, lesson learned.
Yeah, if you ended up getting 4 yrs out of a smartphone you'd be rather happy indeed.
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Yeah, I suppose I am pretty easy to please, I don't do games and don't really do video and don't feel that my phone is particularly slow (yet) so so far happy enough
If you really want to satisfy yourself as to whether it is indeed the age of the battery you're currently using causing your problems, do a clean install of stock & test that for a week. If it does the same thing with stock, you'll know for definite it is the battery. I'd be very surprised if it isn't though; they're not designed to last much longer than what you've had yours if you're charging/discharging constantly.
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Thats a good idea, given what you've said i don't doubt that a large part of my problem is the battery (like I said before, with the older rom it was better but not stellar) do you know where I can find a stock rom nowadays? (sorry on the ROMS page they all seem to be custom roms, or perhaps i missed something?)
Thanks!
Stock roms @ Samfirmware, get one for your carrier/country (not 4.0.4 though, anything else is fine), if there's only 4.0.4 for your carrier/country, any other stock rom will do really -I just tell people to stick to carrier/country in the first instance as these have modems bundled with them that should have been tested by the carrier to give most people on their network good connectivity most of the time.
Or, Wanam has a thread in one of the development sections (I forget which; do a search or have a rummage around) that has CWM flashable stock roms if you'd prefer to do it that way; haven't had a look at the thread for a while so not sure if links are still live, but Wanam is a very active dev & I'd be surprised if he doesn't still have them hosted somewhere.
Does it drain more at a locationw where you use a certain Wifi?
I'm asking cause wlan-rx drains are know Android phones in big open Wifis as the phones get bombarded with signals from other computers/phones and are not filtered and keeps the phone awake.
Easiest way to find out is using Betterbatterystats.
Hi guys,
I wanted to share with you my experience on my device, perhaps some other have the same problem and has solution.
Before I was using 2000mAh battery but it bloat out so I bought a new 1650mAh battery. The problem is that it just turned off when it reaches 40% without even prompting a low batt notification. I thought I bought a defective battery so I purchased a new one again, but it has the same problem. I was using custom roms btw and flashing CM11 nightlies every day or whenever update pops. Does it affects this or should I just recalibrate the device because my old 2000mAh.
Thanks for the help in advance.
deedii said:
Hi guys,
I wanted to share with you my experience on my device, perhaps some other have the same problem and has solution.
Before I was using 2000mAh battery but it bloat out so I bought a new 1650mAh battery. The problem is that it just turned off when it reaches 40% without even prompting a low batt notification. I thought I bought a defective battery so I purchased a new one again, but it has the same problem. I was using custom roms btw and flashing CM11 nightlies every day or whenever update pops. Does it affects this or should I just recalibrate the device because my old 2000mAh.
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Is this a genuine battery. You could try resetting battery stats or use dorimanx kernel to reset fuel guage.
Thanks for the help in advance.
Well the first battery i bought was just a class A, the second battery I just bought a while ago is genuine and its the same result. I will try to flash stock ROM and see if it still occurs, now I just tried calibrating the battery stats.
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Is this a genuine battery. You could try resetting battery stats or use dorimanx kernel to reset fuel guage.
Thanks for the help in advance.
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Don't they say resetting battery stats has only a placebo effect?
I'm having exactly the same problem. I bought two new original batteries and the problem persists. It just doesn't happen with my 2011 original battery.
Thank you
Well i read some articles that returning to stock rom should fix it well im still experimenting on the problem.
deedii said:
Well i read some articles that returning to stock rom should fix it well im still experimenting on the problem.
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Did you check the battery voltage level just before 40%? If I understand correclty, my guess is that the battery should range from 4.1 to 3.3volts, as it has been specified as 3.7v.
In my case, it was around 3.6 volts when close to 40%, which seems to be a reasonable voltage for 40%. But then it suddenly drops to 3.2v (which I measured with a multimeter, since the phone goes dead at around 40%). I have started to beleive the battery is the problem.
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Did you check the battery voltage level just before 40%? If I understand correclty, my guess is that the battery should range from 4.1 to 3.3volts, as it has been specified as 3.7v.
In my case, it was around 3.6 volts when close to 40%, which seems to be a reasonable voltage for 40%. But then it suddenly drops to 3.2v (which I measured with a multimeter, since the phone goes dead at around 40%). I have started to beleive the battery is the problem.
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Well sad im no electricity expert, so I dunno how would I measure it. Im considering returning the original batt i purchased, I will see if this still persist. Thanks
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Well sad im no electricity expert, so I dunno how would I measure it. Im considering returning the original batt i purchased, I will see if this still persist. Thanks
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Battery voltage can be measured using apps like cpu-z and go to the battery section. Software readings are slightly less accurate than multimeter but does the job anyway. 3700mV = 3.7V (conversion of mV to V)
I am currently running debloated stock .305.
I am not overwhelmed by the battery performance. my z3c with slim rom was much better.
So i wonder if i could flash another kernel and improve the battery performance.
So if you guys have some experiences that they will share i would appreciate it.
thanks in advance for any reply.
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I am currently running debloated stock .305.
I am not overwhelmed by the battery performance. my z3c with slim rom was much better.
So i wonder if i could flash another kernel and improve the battery performance.
So if you guys have some experiences that they will share i would appreciate it.
thanks in advance for any reply.
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I'm on the xpower rom and it's weird: during 8h of sleep it only lost 1% of battery, after 10 minutes of browsing and whatsapp it lost 10% of battery. Unacceptable, "screen" is taking most of the battery as there doesn't seem to be any other battery intense app.
Does anyone have any idea?
Sounds like you have 10% drain in 8 hours with light use. That's 1.2% per hour. I think that's pretty usual... And yes, screen should be the most demanding component unless you don't really use the phone. Try lowering the brightness, the effect is almost exponential
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Sounds like you have 10% drain in 8 hours with light use. That's 1.2% per hour. I think that's pretty usual... And yes, screen should be the most demanding component unless you don't really use the phone. Try lowering the brightness, the effect is almost exponential
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Not really, I have 1% over night (which is great) but then 10% in 10 minutes as soon as I start using it (just browsing the net).
I would assume it's just not getting the levels right just after sleep, in fact you've lost 8% and another 2 while using it.
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I would assume it's just not getting the levels right just after sleep, in fact you've lost 8% and another 2 while using it.
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you think so? I rebooted it several times and it would always show the same %, only to drop drastically as soon as I used it. It's really weird to see the battery going down while using it for just a couple of minutes.
Battery % is always a guess.
It would be much better to actually use the device for a few days and then deduce how much battery time you get according to your own usage.
Im using XPower as well and notice the same issue. Battery can last forever screen off but then drains quickly when on.
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Im using XPower as well and notice the same issue. Battery can last forever screen off but then drains quickly when on.
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Maybe then it's a kernel or rom related issue?
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Maybe then it's a kernel or rom related issue?
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Well compare to the latest stock firmware the battery seems to be night and day. I can easily get two days with light use. The battery drain on stock seemed to just be constant.