I'm almost owner of a Samsung Gear S thanks to buying a new TV
Trying to be clever so i ordered a second SIM for this watch before it arrives. I ordered after phone contact with my provider a DualSIM card
But....is this the way to go? I'm not too familiar with Dual-SIM's. I know how those phones works of course but in two different devices that are connected in different ways?
Any feedback on this subject would be appreciated, maybe i can change my order if needed after reading your comments and/or experiences!
Thanks!
ZeroZorro said:
I'm almost owner of a Samsung Gear S thanks to buying a new TV
Trying to be clever so i ordered a second SIM for this watch before it arrives. I ordered after phone contact with my provider a DualSIM card
But....is this the way to go? I'm not too familiar with Dual-SIM's. I know how those phones works of course but in two different devices that are connected in different ways?
Any feedback on this subject would be appreciated, maybe i can change my order if needed after reading your comments and/or experiences!
Thanks!
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Sadly, in the US, it is illegal to sell more than one sim card per number, so we get a separate phone number for the phone that can be called directly, or that the main phone can forward calls to.
I imagine in your case, either the phone and watch ring at the same time or, as usually with two sims, your main device will ring first, then the second one after a preset number of rings.
I'd be interestd which of these two it is.
xendula said:
Sadly, in the US, it is illegal to sell more than one sim card per number, so we get a separate phone number for the phone that can be called directly, or that the main phone can forward calls to.
I imagine in your case, either the phone and watch ring at the same time or, as usually with two sims, your main device will ring first, then the second one after a preset number of rings.
I'd be interestd which of these two it is.
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Okay....let you guys know when my watch arrives...I dunno if it before or after Xmas [emoji10]
The only way to have it ring simultaneously even when not connected by bluetooth is to use Google Voice.
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The only way to have it ring simultaneously even when not connected by bluetooth is to use Google Voice.
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Can you explain this?
Because after installing my Dualsim in my Samsung S4 Active and Samsung Gear S i'm only able to receive phone-calls directly on my Samsung Gear S when my phone is OFF (or in Aerplane mode).
Of course when connected to my phone it will ring on both devices. I think this is not a restriction of Samsung but of the Sim that is provided.
It would be great that if i leave the house without the phone i would be able to take the phones with the Smartwatch (and what is the use of the Dual-Sim option in the Smartwatch then?)
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For anyone who's interested in making the SIM on their x7500 hot-swappable - like the Kaiser -and perhaps hasn't been sure whether to try it or not, the fiddly little clip that goes over the SIM card and which cannot be opened without removing the battery CAN be taken off with a little careful persuation and agitation.
It has no effect on the sim (which is held in place perfectly well by friction) and makes me wonder why HTC put it there in the first place.
I have been using my handset with this mod for about a month now, swapping sims between my normal handset and the Ameo with no problems whatsoever. The clip can easily by reattached in the event of a sale or warranty repair.
Upon hot swapping you have to deactivate and reactivate the via the Comms manager et voila!
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yep i been using it like this for about 3 months now as well
it works really well...
although the sim for me was a bit hard to get out each time so i took a knife and cut a little groove in the sim card so i could get my nail into it
thanks for your point!! good idea!
leoni1980 said:
For anyone who's interested in making the SIM on their x7500 hot-swappable - like the Kaiser -and perhaps hasn't been sure whether to try it or not, the fiddly little clip that goes over the SIM card and which cannot be opened without removing the battery CAN be taken off with a little careful persuation and agitation.
It has no effect on the sim (which is held in place perfectly well by friction) and makes me wonder why HTC put it there in the first place.
I have been using my handset with this mod for about a month now, swapping sims between my normal handset and the Ameo with no problems whatsoever. The clip can easily by reattached in the event of a sale or warranty repair.
Upon hot swapping you have to deactivate and reactivate the via the Comms manager et voila!
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Leon
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Very nice tip!
Why not simply get an extra sim card though? In my case that costs 18 euro.
patrickl said:
Why not simply get an extra sim card though? In my case that costs 18 euro.
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define what u mean by an 'extra sim card'. I have a specific number with an attached data tarif which I want to use with my n95 and also my ameo (when im not out and about) are you talking about a pay as you go sim card, a new tarif or some kind of 'spare' sim as I was not aware that I could get a clone sim card.
leoni1980 said:
define what u mean by an 'extra sim card'. I have a specific number with an attached data tarif which I want to use with my n95 and also my ameo (when im not out and about) are you talking about a pay as you go sim card, a new tarif or some kind of 'spare' sim as I was not aware that I could get a clone sim card.
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I think the marketing term is "Duo SIM". It's a clone of the original SIM. Some companies give one for free (IIRC Vodafone).
You can use only one at a time though (you have to switch the phone you don't use off).
i'm on t-mobile uk and they certainly don't offer this service. I'd be interested to know how i could clone my sim though, since my reasons are entirely legitimate. Does anyone know if this can be done or if it's allowed?!
there's a reason you can't just pull the simcard out; and it's because the radio *really* doesn't appreciate it and generally speaking, it shouldn't be done.
that said, there's all likelihood that it won't matter anyway.
do you feel lucky, punk?
leoni1980 said:
i'm on t-mobile uk and they certainly don't offer this service. I'd be interested to know how i could clone my sim though, since my reasons are entirely legitimate. Does anyone know if this can be done or if it's allowed?!
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That's strange. I'm on T-Mobile in the Netherlands and they do have this. It's sold in the T-Mobile shops or through customer service.
patrickl said:
That's strange. I'm on T-Mobile in the Netherlands and they do have this. It's sold in the T-Mobile shops or through customer service.
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I would also be very interested in this in the UK, but I've never come across it.
If anyone knows any better, please let us know.
Alternatively, is it possible to 'clone' my sim? Or maybe ask for a replacement sim for my 'faulty' one, and then use both... not at the same time, obviously.
Pantaloonie said:
I would also be very interested in this in the UK, but I've never come across it.
If anyone knows any better, please let us know.
Alternatively, is it possible to 'clone' my sim? Or maybe ask for a replacement sim for my 'faulty' one, and then use both... not at the same time, obviously.
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T-Mobile UK used to offer this service, back when it was One2One, but to Business Users only. The benefits were that people could have a SIM in their mobile and one in their car phone, however for two reasons it was stopped. Firstly the car handsets never really took off, and secondly and probably more obviously security reasons.
As far as I'm aware, the other UK networks are of the same standing.
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Also, if you clone your card and the network detects two users, it will disable one of the sim cards. (In theory anyway - I don't know if people have created a "workaround")
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Also, if you clone your card and the network detects two users, it will disable one of the sim cards. (In theory anyway - I don't know if people have created a "workaround")
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Indeed, T-Mobile says you need to switch one phone off. Otherwise the first phone logged on will stay logged on. Which is unfortunate. You'd wish the phone you have with you to get the connection even if you forgot to switch the other one off.
I still have to go pick mine up, so I don't know exactly how it works. They did tell me that I will get 2 new SIMs. Not sure why, but that might be an indication that you cannot simply clone any SIM.
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Enquired with T-Mobile in the UK... They don't do the Duo SIM. Very annoying. I remeber that back in Holland every provider (used to) do them; car phone & mobile. My dad had one (eh... two?). Does anybody know if it's possible to clone a USIM?
I have an Ameo (Athena), an M3100 and a laptop with a UMTS card built in, so I could do with not having to swap SIMs every time... SIM is getting a bit worn...
Any chance of Samsung making a Bluetooth only version of this? Maybe it could be a bit thinner since it wouldn't need a sim.
I really like this watch but I don't need it's 3G functionality.
busab said:
Any chance of Samsung making a Bluetooth only version of this? Maybe it could be a bit thinner since it wouldn't need a sim.
I really like this watch but I don't need it's 3G functionality.
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that would be nice. from what I can see at this point there's only one version and it's going to at&t. I was hoping t-mo would get it.
So I would need 2 cellphone lines? One for my phone other for watch ?but yet somehow the watch can see messages on my phone?
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So I would need 2 cellphone lines? One for my phone other for watch ?but yet somehow the watch can see messages on my phone?
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I assume that would be the case. I don't see the point in that myself. I just want to be about to check notifications, reply to messages, control my music and see some basic information. All of that should work just fine using just Bluetooth.
In Japan, the model without 3G version will be released.
https://translate.google.co.jp/tran...://japan.cnet.com/mobile/35054196/&edit-text=
You would need to set up the Gear S with the phone for the first time after that you can forward your calls to the Gear S but to download you still need the phone which is pointless. I will just wait for someone to sell it on Craigslist and I will just use the bluetooth only side I agree the 3G I don't need. At&T, Sprint and a few others will have it. It's basically charging the same price as a Tablet plan its just a smartwatch instead
Hello, I own a Galaxy Note PRO 12.2 LTE but it is a bit inconvenience to use it to make phone calls sometimes. I am considering to buy the Gear S making/receiving phone calls and also as a device to notify me to check my Note PRO 12.2 whenever somebody sends me message. (Easier to type on a large device.)
I heard that the speaker of the phone is located at the back of the watch. Since that area touches the wrist when the user is wearing it, I wonder if it makes it difficult to hear the voice of the other person. Also, do other people hear the user's voice clearly? Is there any noise cancellation system? Any experience appreciated. Thanks.
The device is not out yet so we really cant answer your question. I dont think you can use the Gear S as a stand alone phone 100% of the time though. Watching the intro video it showed calls being forwarded to the Gear S. That makes me think that you have to have your main phone on.
Did you say you can make calls from your LTE Note Pro? If so I would like to know how to do this. That would be a nice set up then if you can use that as your phone.
I thought that it functioned as a standalone phone? Sure you can connect them and call though your phone, but that is not what I would want.
I have owned one since 15 October. I was fortunate to get a free unit but had to pay full price for a Note 4.
I am using it with a multi-sim service, ie 1 phone number, multiple sims. This is so I can share my data quota and still have both my Note 4 and Gear S active without the need for a wifi hotspot.
The primary SIM is on the Gear S, and it is only tethered to the Note 4 if I want to download apps or updates. I make and receive calls on the Gear S WITHOUT needing a separate phone, but I am using a bluetooth headset with it.
If you don't use a headset, the speaker is serviceable in a quiet room or if you're in the car, since it's somewhat muffled. One odd behavior I found is that even though you have a headset, it defaults to the built in speaker all the time. I have to quickly anwer the call and tap the headset icon to switch it to the headset.
As to battery life, at best it lasts from about 9am to 6pm, at worst, with several calls, it lasts till around 3pm.
You COULD actually adjust the strap and wear BOTH the charger and watch together, having a huge bulky item on your wrist hahahaha, but it will extend your battery by at least a couple more hours.
I will be happy to answer any other questions.
Have you tried to use a Web browser? If so can you practically do some surfing?
Are those scratches or smudges on the face of the watch? I thought the watch came with gorilla glass. If not, I'll be purchasing a screen protector for the watch.
You can check the [REVIEW] thread for the Gear S and more pics in my G+ post link right at the top of the first post.
Those are smudges from somewhat sweaty hand :π
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The device is not out yet so we really cant answer your question. I dont think you can use the Gear S as a stand alone phone 100% of the time though. Watching the intro video it showed calls being forwarded to the Gear S. That makes me think that you have to have your main phone on.
Did you say you can make calls from your LTE Note Pro? If so I would like to know how to do this. That would be a nice set up then if you can use that as your phone.
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i used to use my Ipad as a phone with a App called Line2.
I have used Google Voice, Talk a Tone and Textfree with voice on my Samsung WiFi tablets in the past I was able to make and receive calls on my tablet. I have the tab S LTE now I'm hoping to pair the 2 tab S and gear S so I can have one simple card for the both and keep my Note 4 separate
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I have owned one since 15 October. I was fortunate to get a free unit but had to pay full price for a Note 4.
I am using it with a multi-sim service, ie 1 phone number, multiple sims. This is so I can share my data quota and still have both my Note 4 and Gear S active without the need for a wifi hotspot.
The primary SIM is on the Gear S, and it is only tethered to the Note 4 if I want to download apps or updates. I make and receive calls on the Gear S WITHOUT needing a separate phone, but I am using a bluetooth headset with it.
If you don't use a headset, the speaker is serviceable in a quiet room or if you're in the car, since it's somewhat muffled. One odd behavior I found is that even though you have a headset, it defaults to the built in speaker all the time. I have to quickly anwer the call and tap the headset icon to switch it to the headset.
As to battery life, at best it lasts from about 9am to 6pm, at worst, with several calls, it lasts till around 3pm.
You COULD actually adjust the strap and wear BOTH the charger and watch together, having a huge bulky item on your wrist hahahaha, but it will extend your battery by at least a couple more hours.
I will be happy to answer any other questions.
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Do you know which features from the Gear S i wont be able to use if i only have the Gear S connected via bluetooth?
I ask because i emailed my carrier sprint and they told i can buy the Gear S out right without a sim card but wont be able to use some features the Gear S as to offer.
rmont23 said:
Do you know which features from the Gear S i wont be able to use if i only have the Gear S connected via bluetooth?
I ask because i emailed my carrier sprint and they told i can buy the Gear S out right without a sim card but wont be able to use some features the Gear S as to offer.
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+1 I also have Sprint what features will we miss since it is an uicc card which is not a real SIM card. I had planned to but it outright like the above poster
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+1 I also have Sprint what features will we miss since it is an uicc card which is not a real SIM card. I had planned to but it outright like the above poster
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sprint didn't emailed me back with a answer.
Maybe he was just saying that so i can buy with a plan.
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sprint didn't emailed me back with a answer.
Maybe he was just saying that so i can buy with a plan.
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Oh OK I don't want a 2 Year contract just for this gear S when I payed in full my Note 4 if you can keep me updated if Sprint decides to email you back that would be cool. I may just have to hold on to my gear 2 until someone sells the gear S on Craigslist/Swappa
Sure NP.
I got my gear 1 from swappa good deals there.
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Sure NP.
I got my gear 1 from swappa good deals there.
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I got my gear 1 from there as well but this one requiring a sim card or uicc card does this mean we have to have a separate number for the gear S on Sprint because it has 3G only. I heard at&t/t-mobile can use the sim card with the same number. But the uicc card is tired to one device only I wonder if this will change somehow
joytest said:
I have owned one since 15 October. I was fortunate to get a free unit but had to pay full price for a Note 4.
I am using it with a multi-sim service, ie 1 phone number, multiple sims. This is so I can share my data quota and still have both my Note 4 and Gear S active without the need for a wifi hotspot.
The primary SIM is on the Gear S, and it is only tethered to the Note 4 if I want to download apps or updates. I make and receive calls on the Gear S WITHOUT needing a separate phone, but I am using a bluetooth headset with it.
If you don't use a headset, the speaker is serviceable in a quiet room or if you're in the car, since it's somewhat muffled. One odd behavior I found is that even though you have a headset, it defaults to the built in speaker all the time. I have to quickly anwer the call and tap the headset icon to switch it to the headset.
As to battery life, at best it lasts from about 9am to 6pm, at worst, with several calls, it lasts till around 3pm.
You COULD actually adjust the strap and wear BOTH the charger and watch together, having a huge bulky item on your wrist hahahaha, but it will extend your battery by at least a couple more hours.
I will be happy to answer any other questions.
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Does the mini opera browser will work just using bluetooth connection not with a sim card?
rmont23 said:
Do you know which features from the Gear S i wont be able to use if i only have the Gear S connected via bluetooth?
I ask because i emailed my carrier sprint and they told i can buy the Gear S out right without a sim card but wont be able to use some features the Gear S as to offer.
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I think except for actual calling and SMS, there shouldn't be anything you can't do as a tethered device. In fact you can even make "proxy" calls and sms since it is treated as an extension of your phone when connected via bluetooth.
Ok thank you.
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This is probably not possible, but if I have 2 phones (work and private), can I pair both with the Gear S and receive notifications, etc from both parent phones?
No, it's not supported.
Because it's a more complex device than, say, a headset, multi-point is ruled out by the need to have the Gear Manager app controlling the handset's interaction with it.
If you had a Gear S though, then you should in theory be able to do without having to carry two handsets - put one of the SIMs into the Gear itself, then you can still have it connected to the handset with the other SIM and get notifications for both numbers on the Gear that way.
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No, it's not supported.
Because it's a more complex device than, say, a headset, multi-point is ruled out by the need to have the Gear Manager app controlling the handset's interaction with it.
If you had a Gear S though, then you should in theory be able to do without having to carry two handsets - put one of the SIMs into the Gear itself, then you can still have it connected to the handset with the other SIM and get notifications for both numbers on the Gear that way.
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Yes, for the most part this is true.
However...
I also have personal and work phones. The only thing that is frustrating is the text'g. If you have the two paired, the S will only rcv and send texts from phone's #...not watch. And when you make calls, while paired, the number used will be the phone's. I've tried the "Gear Only" option in settings for calls/msgs...so far, always the phone takes precedence over the watch while connected via BT.
I've set it up so the watch is always remotely connected and the call/msg outgoing # option is set to Gear only. As a way to still rcv calls from biz phone, go to phone's provider call settings/calls unanswered, and forward them to watch's # instead of VM. Other than that, I do get notifs from everything else that I checked in the Gear mgr notification list.
Good luck...
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Hmm, I guess it won't work for me, because I really don't want external customers to EVER have my personal cell phone number...
And to make it even more complicated, I just had to order a new work phone, which is an iPhone 6
Technically, I need an option to pair the a Gear S with both phones, and have it work as a stand-alone when I chose to carry neither phone.. I am probably a few years ahead in my thinking..
So I will probably just get the iWatch when it comes out and try to figure out a way to explain why I am wearing both at the same time, LOL
Funny, just when you think life just got a little easier, it gets more complicated. I truly dislike apple products, but have 2 iPads (one for work, one I won), am about to get my first iPhone and am going to probably one of those crazy people in line in front of the apple store to get their watch when it comes out.
After owning the Gear S for a month, I can't see how I ever lived without a smartwatch and need that experience for work, too
Thanks for the input! Was not what I hoped, but had expected.
My end goal is to purchase an unlocked Gear S and use it as an always on hotspot for another device that I always carry with me that needs wifi. I also want to use the Gear S as a stand alone phone. Iv'e seen the hack that will allow one to register it without ever using a phone.
I currently have an account with T-mobile. 2-lines, $100, unlimited voice/data - I don't want to change my plan.
Is there anyway to somehow exchange the sim from one phone (through T-mobile or other means) for a nano sim that will fit in the Gear S without changing my plan or number? - Thanks Community!
You can get a sim card cutter for under $10 on Amazon, and just cut your sim to fit. That's what I did with my SIM when I upgraded my main phone.
However, AFAIK, there is no way to make the Gear S be a hotspot.
Also, if you have a wearables plan, you get locked out of it as soon as you put the respective sim card in anything but the Gear S. I tried to use mine in the LG watch urbane, after I was assured by Tmo CS that this would work, and it completely blocked my wearables sim, which I am now waiting to get reprovisioned.
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You can get a sim card cutter for under $10 on Amazon, and just cut your sim to fit. That's what I did with my SIM when I upgraded my main phone.
However, AFAIK, there is no way to make the Gear S be a hotspot.
Also, if you have a wearables plan, you get locked out of it as soon as you put the respective sim card in anything but the Gear S. I tried to use mine in the LG watch urbane, after I was assured by Tmo CS that this would work, and it completely blocked my wearables sim, which I am now waiting to get reprovisioned.
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Oh this sucks and I can't believe they implemented that.. I was just going to try my watch sim in the new lg watch this afternoon.. Scratch that.. Thanks for the heads up
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chiikko561 said:
Oh this sucks and I can't believe they implemented that.. I was just going to try my watch sim in the new lg watch this afternoon.. Scratch that.. Thanks for the heads up
BeameD From My LG V10... The one with the ALWAYS ON SCREEN... Watching me..
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I know of one single person whose wearables sim did not get blocked when he moved it from his Tmo Gear S to the LG WULTE2, so there is a tiny, tiny chance that it may work for you. It didn't for me and others.