[Q] Gear S STANDALONE? - Samsung Gear S

Anybody can use Nike plus or Runtastic standalone (witout pairing with a phone)?
Or can do it only after rooted it?

Nike +: I tried running the app without the BT connected, and the Nike app would not run without it.
Don't know about runtastic, but I would believe that it also would require the pairing. At least for the initial setup and user statistics.
The S has yet to be rooted.

mghtymse007 said:
Nike +: I tried running the app without the BT connected, and the Nike app would not run without it.
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You only need run Nike+ with BT connected once. After that, you can use it stand alone without BT connection.
Root has nothing to do with how apps are written. If an app needs the phone app to work, it will require phone regardless you root or not. You need to change the app, not the watch.

Rooted
foxbat121 said:
You only need run Nike+ with BT connected once. After that, you can use it stand alone without BT connection.
Root has nothing to do with how apps are written. If an app needs the phone app to work, it will require phone regardless you root or not. You need to change the app, not the watch.
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Yes you are right nike+ working without pairing, but I cannot get any map.
I have rooted my gear S hoping to install same runtastic apk as the phone (working without pairing with other device).
Now that is rooted I don't know how to do because adb is not working on the gear S.

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[USER][CM7] Bluetooth tips and tricks...and questions

Hope I'm not duplicating anything, but there seems to be a lot of BT related questions and none answered in one unified place. Also I think the BT Dev thread should be left to the devs (to keep it easier for them to work on things, rather than help us mere mortals ).
This applies to CM7 (latest nightlies, Tablet Tweak RCs) ONLY (as far as I know).
So, if bluetooth does not turn on, there a few things that you can try.
Do a HARD reset (that is, hold down the power button until the NookColor turns off, then start it back up.
Fix Permissions in ClockworkRecovery:
Boot into CWR (w/SD, load it in. With CWR installed on eMMC, go to ROM Manager > Reboot into Recovery. Alternatively, hold down the power plus "N" button for ~8 seconds (from a shutdown NookColor).​
Try both!
An interesting thing to note is some users (myself included) can only start up bluetooth within a pretty short window of time after the NC has booted up. Not sure why timing is important, but could be a factor for those who cannot start up BT after some given time of operation.
I found this tip that may work after a fresh (read: wipe system/data) install, but may also work after flashing a nightly over a nightly.
If you're ready to turn on Bluetooth, there's a trick. If you don't do this, Bluetooth will just refuse to turn on / be enabled.
Turn off wifi (Settings > Wireless & Networks > Wi-Fi)
Reboot
Turn on Bluetooth (Settings > Wireless & Networks > Bluetooth)
Turn on wifi
It seems a bit odd, but that's what you have to do. From then on out it'll work fine.
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Credit here (step 2)
For a list and description of devices that work with the NC, check this out:
Known functional Bluetooth devices
For tethering data via BT, try android-wifi-tether. While it can be used to create an access point on your phone via wifi, you can also opt to use BT to create the tether. This works well in conjunction with TetherGPS which I use to provide GPS info to the NC from my G1 while using CoPilot Live to show navigation (I don't have data on the G1).
If you have the BT enable problem try this kernel and let me know if it changes anything:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12683824&postcount=1754
dalingrin said:
If you have the BT enable problem try this kernel and let me know if it changes anything:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12683824&postcount=1754
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Tried that previously and it did not work for me.
In other words, it works as with all the kernels I've tried (your OC'd and stock kernel): it will start up if I start is quickly, but otherwise not.
ace7196 said:
Tried that previously and it did not work for me.
In other words, it works as with all the kernels I've tried (your OC'd and stock kernel): it will start up if I start is quickly, but otherwise not.
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me too. I went back to 4/4 since them. If I leave BT on all the time, it is on when I boot, but if I turn off BT and reboot, it won't come on without a hardboot (holding down power.)
Fix permissions is NOT needed, just a hard boot.
dalingrin said:
If you have the BT enable problem try this kernel and let me know if it changes anything:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12683824&postcount=1754
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For the last few days Ive been trying to get BT working w/ my car stereo, using phiremod 5.3
I have no problems enabling Bluetooth (first time I had to reboot a few times and fix permissions)
With it flat against the stereo, I'm 'paired but not connected' and getting it to actually connect usually takes 4 - 5 tries.
After its connected- when I try to play any kind of music, it gets stuck every few seconds- and stays stuck for more than a few seconds (like 10) and plays again.
I just downloaded this kernel, (wiped caches, fixed permissions again) and it connected on the second time, and only got 'stuck' once for maybe 2 seconds, and played the rest of the song with no problems.
Seems like it changed something on my end...
Just figured I'd mentioned it.
(I can go back to the other kernel, or a different version of cm7, and see if I get the same connecting/ stuttering problem, if you thing it would help)
Btw- thanks so much for sharing all of your hard work!
breebauer said:
After its connected- when I try to play any kind of music, it gets stuck every few seconds- and stays stuck for more than a few seconds (like 10) and plays again.
I just downloaded this kernel, (wiped caches, fixed permissions again) and it connected on the second time, and only got 'stuck' once for maybe 2 seconds, and played the rest of the song with no problems.!
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I dont' know if anyone who's building from source wants to take a look at this patch committed 3 days ago on the omapzoom tree to frameworks/base, but it seems to address a bluetooth corruption problem.
Can anyone who's using the copilot app tell me exactly how to get it set up? I can get the GPS signal to the nook but then I get an error about an invalid imei number.
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Calla969 said:
Can anyone who's using the copilot app tell me exactly how to get it set up? I can get the GPS signal to the nook but then I get an error about an invalid imei number.
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk
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Check out this posting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024963
I believe you also need the Bluetooth GPS Provider app from the market.
Calla969 said:
Can anyone who's using the copilot app tell me exactly how to get it set up? I can get the GPS signal to the nook but then I get an error about an invalid imei number.
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk
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Never had an issue with the IMEI number, but here's how I got it setup.
Start with the TetherGPS app running server on the phone and client on the NC, as well as tether-wifi from google running on the phone, then connect to the AP on the NC
Next, open/install the app. It should read the GPS data from the phone
Now, switch back to a wireless connection with internet access, download the voice, then enter the serial/etc...
Finally, load the app back up after all the registration stuff 'n things, and use the "internet" connection from the phone to grab the GPS info.
Copied and edited from cm7 user thread.
I have xoom bluetooth keyboard with disconnect issues. Would the special kernel help with this?
From the accessories thread. "I found a work-around. Download the app Bluetooth Keyboard JP, change the settings in settings > Language and Keyboard to that app, then connect the keyboard." Anybody else try this or others? Blue Input is another one. I know of one more but can remember its name.
I'm running Phiremod v5.3 cm7 from emmc and cm7 nightlies from sd card. I usually have a data sd card but can switch it out. I have updated the cm7 sd card before. Not sure which nightly and OC I used last. Could use ClockWorksMod to flash this kernel to Phiremod v5.3. Could replace the kernel, uImage, on the SD card. Usually there are different kernels for emmc and sd card.
Another issue: When I have the keyboard active and playing flash files from the internet, it seems to buffer more. If I move the keyboard out of range or use settings to disconnect the keyboard, the buffering is less and the flash files play better. I have cyfi bluetooth external speakers. When I use them I get the same buffering issue, so I just use an external player through the headphone jack instead.
ace7196 said:
Never had an issue with the IMEI number, but here's how I got it setup.
Start with the TetherGPS app running server on the phone and client on the NC, as well as tether-wifi from google running on the phone, then connect to the AP on the NC
Next, open/install the app. It should read the GPS data from the phone
Now, switch back to a wireless connection with internet access, download the voice, then enter the serial/etc...
Finally, load the app back up after all the registration stuff 'n things, and use the "internet" connection from the phone to grab the GPS info.
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Question: will 'Wireless Tethering' work in place of 'tether-wifi'? Or does it -have- to be 'tether-wifi'? Thanks!
any software will work that tethers.:-D
ace7196 said:
Never had an issue with the IMEI number, but here's how I got it setup.
Start with the TetherGPS app running server on the phone and client on the NC, as well as tether-wifi from google running on the phone, then connect to the AP on the NC
Next, open/install the app. It should read the GPS data from the phone
Now, switch back to a wireless connection with internet access, download the voice, then enter the serial/etc...
Finally, load the app back up after all the registration stuff 'n things, and use the "internet" connection from the phone to grab the GPS info.
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Apparently the latest version of Copilot has introduced this error. I have spoken with tech support regarding the issue and they told me that they are aware of the problem and will release an update early next week that will fix the problem. Apparently if you have version 8.2.504 it works, but the new version breaks it. The dev won't send me a copy of the old version, so I guess I'll just have to wait and hope.
lschroeder said:
Copied and edited from cm7 user thread.
I have xoom bluetooth keyboard with disconnect issues. Would the special kernel help with this?
From the accessories thread. "I found a work-around. Download the app Bluetooth Keyboard JP, change the settings in settings > Language and Keyboard to that app, then connect the keyboard." Anybody else try this or others? Blue Input is another one. I know of one more but can remember its name.
Another issue: When I have the keyboard active and playing flash files from the internet, it seems to buffer more. If I move the keyboard out of range or use settings to disconnect the keyboard, the buffering is less and the flash files play better. I have cyfi bluetooth external speakers. When I use them I get the same buffering issue, so I just use an external player through the headphone jack instead.
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I don't know if that is a solution, but the problem appears to be a conflict between wifi and bluetooth. Turn off wifi and most of your keyboard problems will go away.
Also there is an app on the market called "Null Keyboard" Which simply turns on a keyboard device that disables everything keyboard related. It doesn't disable bluetooth input, but it gets rid of the long-press pop ups and is suppose to solve other issues as well (including the software keyboard popping up every time you want to type.)
I haven't had time to install it, but it's purchased.
Does anyone know where (on the Nook) the BT chip/antenna is located?
It might help to know, since the range is so limited...
breebauer said:
Does anyone know where (on the Nook) the BT chip/antenna is located?
It might help to know, since the range is so limited...
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http://www.zdnet.com/photos/nookcolor-teardown/487636?seq=62&tag=content;photo-frame#photo-frame
So across the bottom and up the right side as you hold it portrait.
khaytsus said:
http://www.zdnet.com/photos/nookcolor-teardown/487636?seq=62&tag=content;photo-frame#photo-frame
So across the bottom and up the right side as you hold it portrait.
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Thanks! That makes a big difference...
(For some reason, I was thinking it was on the upper left corner- not sure why)
chisleu said:
I don't know if that is a solution, but the problem appears to be a conflict between wifi and bluetooth. Turn off wifi and most of your keyboard problems will go away.
Also there is an app on the market called "Null Keyboard" Which simply turns on a keyboard device that disables everything keyboard related. It doesn't disable bluetooth input, but it gets rid of the long-press pop ups and is suppose to solve other issues as well (including the software keyboard popping up every time you want to type.)
I haven't had time to install it, but it's purchased.
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I was just using google voice to text from several feet back. In fact it was hard to read the small print from that distance. I did not realized that keyboards have a larger range then headsets.
Testing Bluetooth Keyboard JP now. Force closes, so just switched to swift keyboard I downloaded from amazon app store for free. To get out swift keyboard and get a null keyboard, I hit the back key on the xoom keyboard, then the virtual swift keyboard no longer shows up.
@chisleu do you have a link or instruction to modify bluetooth keyboards so that keys can have their mappings corrected. Xoom has some correct and some wrong or disabled under CM7.
Couldn't get BT to work at all however powering down while the wifi is off, and turning the bluetooth on before the wifi made it works on the first try. Was streaming Slacker to my stereo in a matter of minutes. Wifi doesn't seem to interfere with the BT audio stream at all, audio sounded crisp and perfect. Range however was still limited to a foot or so.
Hoping there is a possible hardware mod that can hook up an antenna to the BT chip. I'd be in heaven if I had full BT functionality on this beast.
FYI, Although I don't have any RF experience I'm still an electrical engineer so if anyone can toss me a bone on the PCB layout or pinouts of the nook I might be able to try stuff to boost the range.
What is the feasibility of adding dial-up networking client support to CM7? Some folks are able to tether their NC to their phone using an ad hoc wifi network, and others have had success via a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN) using the "pand" utility. Unfortunately, I have a Blackberry phone, and it does not support the PAN profile. It does, however, support dial-up networking (DUN) over Bluetooth (confirmed with a Windows laptop).
According to https://sites.google.com/a/android.com/opensource/projects/bluetooth-faq, "dund" is the client utility that is needed to establish a dial-up connection from Android to another device. When I run this command on the NC, it says "dund: not found". I'm not a developer and don't know how much effort would be involved in adding this functionality to the build. Is it just a matter of including the binaries, or is there additional development work involved?
Thanks in advance..

[Q] Phone pairing over bluetooth to use GPS

Sorry for my stupidity if that's what is it.
I have connected my PS3 controller via bluetooth without issue and this shows up in bluetooth paired devices fine.
Tried to pair with my desire HD to use bluetooth. Device pairs for a couple of seconds then phone moves back down from the paired section of the screen to the available.
I'm running ICS on phone, tried CM7 rom on phone in case that's the issue but no change.
Tried my partners Samsung galaxy ace and same concern.
All i want is gps over bluetooth and this part is fundamental to getting it working.
Am I missing something here. Please help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483101
Thanks,
But that is the thread i was following.
It is step 5 i am having bother with, phone doesnt stay paired for more than a couple of seconds
1)get Gps2Bluettooth app and put it on your phone. read instructions in there. you will need to place widget on homescreen to activate whenever you want to tether GPS BT connection
2) get BluetoothGPS app and install it on the prime. follow instructions
3) pair up both devices. make sure to enable Gps2BT widget on phone and cut on GPS on your phone. then go into Bluetooth GPS app on prime and make sure that the box that says enable mock GPS provider is checked. then choose your device in connect box. then press connect. it should say connected afterwards. give it a lil and you will see your phone GPS icon in notification area going off or transferring data.
4)now your phone is sending GPS info to prime through BT. you can use the Bluetooth GPS app to see your satellite data or whatever. or now you can open Google maps or earth and it'll get the GPS info and lock on your location. or another other app needing GPS. for some reason I can't get GPS test to show the data. maybe because when I tried I didn't have a lock yet. don't know. worth trying out. but it works with all navigation apps I've tried so far.
very easy n simple setup. I just went into detail to make sure you hook up the right way. works great for me and every time. I use my Atrix to tether GPS through BT. my atrix sees n locks on Gps satellites very fast.
thanks for the reply but i think everyone may be missing the point. my phones wont pair for anymore than a couple of seconds using bluetooth. ps3 controller does fine.
Not sure why, hence i have no phone to select in the bluetooth gps app connection list.
Phones show as pairing and move into the paired devices list on connection screen but then drop down back to available devices as if pairing has failed but i cant understand why, wondering if anyone else had this issue.
Thanks
sounds like a phone problem, check the forum for your phone & rom...
That is exactly what I thought originally, altough my phone connects and pairs with car bluetooth fine.
Switched from ICS to CM7 with phone to rule out rom, now back to GB sense ROM. (Not had change to test latter yet.)
Tested and same scenario on partners Samsung Galaxy Ace.
Will keep trying and feed back.
Thanks all
Just to let anyone know who may experience same issue.
I managed to fix concern with factory reset of tablet, bluetooth somehow wasnt playing right

SMS Bluetooth App

So I found this app which looked really promising but unfortunately doesn't work for me.
Basically would let our Omates send/receive sms via our phones Bluetooth while using our existing phone number. Would be great to not have to rely on wireless or a sim card with a new number.
I was never able to get the Bluetooth to work as it never connected with phone. Im not sure if it is a issue with my phone or with my Omate.
If someone wants to try and see if it works that would be great. The program is $2.99 but you can just refund withing 15 min if it doesnt work like i did.
Heres a full description & link:
Tablet Talk is a tablet SMS texting app that lets you text from a tablet and even make voice calls, while your phone stays in your pocket! It works with all Android tablets, including Nexus, Galaxy, Note, and Kindle Fire tablets. Unlike other apps, Tablet Talk doesn't force you to use a new phone number... your friends, coworkers, and family can contact you with your existing Android phone number. In addition, Tablet Talk does not require an Internet connection, does not store your data, and does not eat your battery!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apdroid.tabtalk
Does anyone know of another app like this we could use?
Thanks
BT paring/tethering in that manner does not work on any of the x201s.
What works;
Phone > BT Pair/Tether > x201 w/ SIM > Data/Internet
What doesn't work;
x201 > BT Pair/Tether > Phone w/ SIM > Data/Internet
Lokifish Marz said:
BT paring/tethering in that manner does not work on any of the x201s.
What works;
Phone > BT Pair/Tether > x201 w/ SIM > Data/Internet
What doesn't work;
x201 > BT Pair/Tether > Phone w/ SIM > Data/Internet
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darn that stinks. hopefully one day lol
thanks Lokifish
AndroidFileHost said:
So I found this app which looked really promising but unfortunately doesn't work for me.
Basically would let our Omates send/receive sms via our phones Bluetooth while using our existing phone number. Would be great to not have to rely on wireless or a sim card with a new number.
I was never able to get the Bluetooth to work as it never connected with phone. Im not sure if it is a issue with my phone or with my Omate.
If someone wants to try and see if it works that would be great. The program is $2.99 but you can just refund withing 15 min if it doesnt work like i did.
Heres a full description & link:
Tablet Talk is a tablet SMS texting app that lets you text from a tablet and even make voice calls, while your phone stays in your pocket! It works with all Android tablets, including Nexus, Galaxy, Note, and Kindle Fire tablets. Unlike other apps, Tablet Talk doesn't force you to use a new phone number... your friends, coworkers, and family can contact you with your existing Android phone number. In addition, Tablet Talk does not require an Internet connection, does not store your data, and does not eat your battery!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apdroid.tabtalk
Does anyone know of another app like this we could use?
Thanks
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I got this app to work. I figured I've blown more than $3 in my life of silly stuff. I've only tested it once, but it was fun to reject a call from my wrist.
First part:
Both devices are initially detected as a phone. You have to manually go in on the TrueSmart and switch it to "tablet". (Menu->Settings->Setup->Device Type)
Second part:
The bluetooth pairing screen is too big. (It was written for a tablet, no doubt.) If you installed "App Settings" module for Xposed, switching the DPI to 80 will get you past the pairing screen, after which you can put the DPI back to default.
Third part:
The app settings by default don't relay phone controls over to the tablet (watch) so you need to change the settings to make this happen. From the watch, Menu->Settings->Caller ID/Phone Calls.
Post back if you try and it works or doesn't.
jd
jdommer said:
I got this app to work. I figured I've blown more than $3 in my life of silly stuff. I've only tested it once, but it was fun to reject a call from my wrist.
First part:
Both devices are initially detected as a phone. You have to manually go in on the TrueSmart and switch it to "tablet". (Menu->Settings->Setup->Device Type)
Second part:
The bluetooth pairing screen is too big. (It was written for a tablet, no doubt.) If you installed "App Settings" module for Xposed, switching the DPI to 80 will get you past the pairing screen, after which you can put the DPI back to default.
Third part:
The app settings by default don't relay phone controls over to the tablet (watch) so you need to change the settings to make this happen. From the watch, Menu->Settings->Caller ID/Phone Calls.
Post back if you try and it works or doesn't.
jd
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Awesomw trying it now. Do you have a link to the xposed app settings. The one i just tried didnt work when telling it to change the dpi
Thanks
AndroidFileHost said:
Awesomw trying it now. Do you have a link to the xposed app settings. The one i just tried didnt work when telling it to change the dpi
Thanks
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I'm still battling this. The app works perfectly on wifi, but very unreliable on bluetooth. Unfortunately, my phone is an SGS3 running CM11 and the bluetooth there is only slightly more reliable than the bluetooth on the TrueSmart so I'm not sure where the problem lies. I haven't gone through the app maker's FAQ yet, and am hopeful I can make it work.
Anyhow, to answer your question:
If you installed Loki's patch, you should have an app called xposed installer. Make sure you have gone in the framework section and done install/update and the reboot required after.
Then go back into the xposed installer and into download. Down in that list somewhere you should find the App Settings module. Download that and install it.
Then go back and into the modules menu. Make sure you have a checkmark in the App Settings module and reboot again.
Now, you can go into app settings (should be a normal app - or you can navigate to it through xposed installer and modules then click on App Settings) and choose the Tablet Talk application and change its DPI to 80. Instead of switching it back to "0" of no override after, I've got it on 92 right now because that makes the dialer portion of the app usable for tablet talk. If you don't care, you may want to go back to default.
Good luck!
jd
jdommer said:
I'm still battling this. The app works perfectly on wifi, but very unreliable on bluetooth. Unfortunately, my phone is an SGS3 running CM11 and the bluetooth there is only slightly more reliable than the bluetooth on the TrueSmart so I'm not sure where the problem lies. I haven't gone through the app maker's FAQ yet, and am hopeful I can make it work.
Anyhow, to answer your question:
If you installed Loki's patch, you should have an app called xposed installer. Make sure you have gone in the framework section and done install/update and the reboot required after.
Then go back into the xposed installer and into download. Down in that list somewhere you should find the App Settings module. Download that and install it.
Then go back and into the modules menu. Make sure you have a checkmark in the App Settings module and reboot again.
Now, you can go into app settings (should be a normal app - or you can navigate to it through xposed installer and modules then click on App Settings) and choose the Tablet Talk application and change its DPI to 80. Instead of switching it back to "0" of no override after, I've got it on 92 right now because that makes the dialer portion of the app usable for tablet talk. If you don't care, you may want to go back to default.
Good luck!
jd
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most likely its the ts. i own a moto x and have had nothing but issue maintaining a BT connection with the watch. the ts drops the bt connection after 30 secs
rhineymac said:
most likely its the ts. i own a moto x and have had nothing but issue maintaining a BT connection with the watch. the ts drops the bt connection after 30 secs
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I am having the same issue with the BT on my OTS. It drops connection with my Moto X pretty fast.
Same thing here - about a 30 second connection between the TrueSmart and my stock Nexus7 2013, then it drops.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
If the range is poor it's an antenna issue. Otherwise it's the firmware.
Lokifish Marz said:
If the range is poor it's an antenna issue. Otherwise it's the firmware.
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defiantly the firmware on mine dont think its a bad antenna. Really hope they get on the ball and fix this stuff. I cant even get the bluetooth to see my cars bluetooth or headphones. Not sure whats going on. Really frustrating I cant use it for the things i bought it for.
If it is a bad antenna I doubt I'd be able to even request a replacement since every email to them seems to go into a black hole lol
jdommer said:
I'm still battling this. The app works perfectly on wifi, but very unreliable on bluetooth. Unfortunately, my phone is an SGS3 running CM11 and the bluetooth there is only slightly more reliable than the bluetooth on the TrueSmart so I'm not sure where the problem lies. I haven't gone through the app maker's FAQ yet, and am hopeful I can make it work.
Anyhow, to answer your question:
If you installed Loki's patch, you should have an app called xposed installer. Make sure you have gone in the framework section and done install/update and the reboot required after.
Then go back into the xposed installer and into download. Down in that list somewhere you should find the App Settings module. Download that and install it.
Then go back and into the modules menu. Make sure you have a checkmark in the App Settings module and reboot again.
Now, you can go into app settings (should be a normal app - or you can navigate to it through xposed installer and modules then click on App Settings) and choose the Tablet Talk application and change its DPI to 80. Instead of switching it back to "0" of no override after, I've got it on 92 right now because that makes the dialer portion of the app usable for tablet talk. If you don't care, you may want to go back to default.
Good luck!
jd
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Ya i did his patch but dont have xposed installed. Redid the patch and still nothing. Ill keep tinkering with it. Once i get the dpi working ill test this out further.
AndroidFileHost said:
Ya i did his patch but dont have xposed installed. Redid the patch and still nothing. Ill keep tinkering with it. Once i get the dpi working ill test this out further.
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xposed and it's required files do not come preintalled with the final release of the patch.
Lokifish Marz said:
xposed and it's required files do not come preintalled with the final release of the patch.
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ya i looked through the patch and didnt see it so im installing it manually. Thanks for the reply
Lokifish Marz said:
BT paring/tethering in that manner does not work on any of the x201s.
What works;
Phone > BT Pair/Tether > x201 w/ SIM > Data/Internet
What doesn't work;
x201 > BT Pair/Tether > Phone w/ SIM > Data/Internet
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
jdommer said:
I'm still battling this. The app works perfectly on wifi, but very unreliable on bluetooth. Unfortunately, my phone is an SGS3 running CM11 and the bluetooth there is only slightly more reliable than the bluetooth on the TrueSmart so I'm not sure where the problem lies. I haven't gone through the app maker's FAQ yet, and am hopeful I can make it work.
Anyhow, to answer your question:
If you installed Loki's patch, you should have an app called xposed installer. Make sure you have gone in the framework section and done install/update and the reboot required after.
Then go back into the xposed installer and into download. Down in that list somewhere you should find the App Settings module. Download that and install it.
Then go back and into the modules menu. Make sure you have a checkmark in the App Settings module and reboot again.
Now, you can go into app settings (should be a normal app - or you can navigate to it through xposed installer and modules then click on App Settings) and choose the Tablet Talk application and change its DPI to 80. Instead of switching it back to "0" of no override after, I've got it on 92 right now because that makes the dialer portion of the app usable for tablet talk. If you don't care, you may want to go back to default.
Good luck!
jd
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So i got it to work over bluetooth with the instructions your provided. I can send text messages but it doesnt show any recieved. So thats better then nothing I guess lol. Ill keep tinkering with the settings. Not sure why its not syncing the responses.
Also not being notified of phone calls either but i can make them. So not sure if its just some setting i have wrong that is not letting notifications and things come through. Any ideas?
This didnt help
"Third part:
The app settings by default don't relay phone controls over to the tablet (watch) so you need to change the settings to make this happen. From the watch, Menu->Settings->Caller ID/Phone Calls"
On the phones app it shows the sync log and does show the text messages but the watch is not receiving them. There is a setting on the phone app that says Incoming SMS Fix. Use only if your phones sms app blocks tablet talk from receiving messages.
That doesnt fix the issue. Wonder why you were able to block a call on your watch but I cant.
Ill keep tinkering.
AndroidFileHost said:
That doesnt fix the issue. Wonder why you were able to block a call on your watch but I cant.
Ill keep tinkering.
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Glad you got it partially working. It looks like the problem is with the BlueTooth on the watch. It can send data to the phone, but it doesn't receive the responses.
The time I did get the call to show up on the watch, I had switched it over to WiFi connect mode. I only realized that after I had already posted.
Anyhow, the app looks pretty decent. Maybe the infamous mythical future firmware update for the watch Bluetooth with fix everything[tm].
jd
jdommer said:
Glad you got it partially working. It looks like the problem is with the BlueTooth on the watch. It can send data to the phone, but it doesn't receive the responses.
The time I did get the call to show up on the watch, I had switched it over to WiFi connect mode. I only realized that after I had already posted.
Anyhow, the app looks pretty decent. Maybe the infamous mythical future firmware update for the watch Bluetooth with fix everything[tm].
jd
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ok gotcha ya i hope the mythical update makes this work it would be awesome. Im going to write to the developers of the app to see if they can adjust it to better fit on the watch. I doubt they will but cant hurt to ask.
Really hope we see a bluetooth fix for the omate this month but i highly doubt it lol
jdommer said:
Glad you got it partially working. It looks like the problem is with the BlueTooth on the watch. It can send data to the phone, but it doesn't receive the responses.
The time I did get the call to show up on the watch, I had switched it over to WiFi connect mode. I only realized that after I had already posted.
Anyhow, the app looks pretty decent. Maybe the infamous mythical future firmware update for the watch Bluetooth with fix everything[tm].
jd
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Ya i got it to receive a few times but defiantly is the bluetooth on the watch being funky
AndroidFileHost said:
Ya i got it to receive a few times but defiantly is the bluetooth on the watch being funky
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At the cost of battery life, ive been running this semi-reliably using my phone as a hotspot and using tablet talk's hotspot mode feature, and connecting on the "tablet"/SmartWatch using wifi mode. Using it like this only makes me wish it worked properly over Bluetooth because short of forwarding all notifications, this is a great great app.
Helgaiden said:
At the cost of battery life, ive been running this semi-reliably using my phone as a hotspot and using tablet talk's hotspot mode feature, and connecting on the "tablet"/SmartWatch using wifi mode. Using it like this only makes me wish it worked properly over Bluetooth because short of forwarding all notifications, this is a great great app.
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Someone over at Google+ suggested Tablet Notifier. I have received call notifications and SMS successfully over Bluetooth with it. No sending SMS, but that is really not a big deal for me; I hate typing on the watch. Only tried it for a few minutes, but the more of us breaking it, the faster we find if it breaks.
jd

S Healt on Gear S GPS

When I start the S Healt Training on my Gear S the Location search at the beginning Need minutes to fix the Position. Last Run I had 3 rounds ´(~3x12 minutes) and the GPS fixed after the first round.
Is this normal? I can´t wait 10 minutes before I start running for the Watch...
How is your watch connected? If it is connected to your phone via Bluetooth, it will use your phone's GPS. When your phone is not near by for BT to connect, it will use its own GPS. In this case, you need mobile data connection to help speed up the initial lock. For me, it typically takes 20 seconds or so. Without the mobile data connection, it will take significantly longer time.
THX. This could be the problem. I´m not connected to phone but have no data Connection.
Would it be possible if i use a old nano sim Card (not acitvated anymore) to get the Position faster as Long as I did not have a new nano sim?
You need a mobile data connection. So an inactive SIM won't help. You need an active SIM with mobile data enabled. It needs to talk to some location server on the internet or your carrier to help speed up the initial lock on.
It makes more sense to have a quickfix file that can update via wifi etc. Strange they did not add this function as part of the sync process with Gear Manager.
If you have GPS on the phone and the watch and start Shealth and let it connect and count down, then go. It will record GPS without a mobile data connection.
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The whole idea of having a watch is that you can run without bring a bulky phone with you.
And you can leave your phone behind and it records gps on the watch.
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Well, I took your word and did a test:
* disable the mobile network on my watch to simulate the non mobile connection condition as OP indicated.
* Start exercise while BT connected to my phone.
* Went out for a walk that is well beyond the BT reach.
* Came back the review the recorded GPS location.
All I got is a dot on my map point to where my phone is, not GPS of the exercising. This is what I expected.
When the watch is connected to the phone via BT, it gets its location from Phone's GPS but it does not help initialize its own GPS. Once your disconnected from the BT, the watch will still need to initialize its own GPS in order to get its own location. Without mobile data, it is not going to work.
It's possible to get fixed a position from the gps without mobile data, but it can take several minutes to achieve it
Recorded this with the Nike ap, and no Sim chip in my Gear S.
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Recorded this with the Nike ap, and no Sim chip in my Gear S.
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That is what I guessed. But the title of this thread is about the built-in S Health app, not Nike app.
I also have a few runs recorded with S Health and it does have the GPS map. Also have a S Health update that I need to do.
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ampm325 said:
I also have a few runs recorded with S Health and it does have the GPS map. Also have a S Health update that I need to do.
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I use mine 100% standalone for running etc and have had the same problem but figured out what is wrong . After you have your first GPS fix further ones should be within 2 minutes . However and most importantly if you switch of your watch or your battery dies you have to start the process again . I know its a pain but its the only way this will work Standalone . Makes no difference if you have a sim card in or not
I run on trails, and noticed that on some of my runs, the GPS can take up to 0.5 k to start logging. It may simply depend on the GPS signal in the area? I have mobile data on and it seems to make no difference, BTW.
I agree with OP, it's super frustrating to stand around in the freezing temps to wait for the GPS lock, or chose between chasing after your friends or logging incomplete data.
It's because it's not real GPS, it's aGPS. Samsung Moment had the same problems with locations.
S Health distance not working on gear s
using the s health app to track my run on gear s. After my run the map data is correct but the distance traveled is way off. Am I doing something wrong? or does s health not use gps data for tracking running distance?
andrewode said:
using the s health app to track my run on gear s. After my run the map data is correct but the distance traveled is way off. Am I doing something wrong? or does s health not use gps data for tracking running distance?
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I have the exact same issue. I've been running 5 test runs now with the Gear S using Nike+ and i've also brought my Samsung S5 with Endomondo and they have been pretty much spot on. Maybe 0-10 meters difference at max on a run from 5-10km so actually the Nike+ app seems to work just fine now. I'm using GPS + mobile networks turned on when i'm running.
But, yeah, S Health is is totaaaaaaaaaally off when it comes to distance for me to. I've tried a 4km test run 3 times, S health show about 2,1-2,6km every time. I almost thought the metrics was wrong at te beginning but that does not match up either. Very strange and I hope someone have a solution for this because I hate the small font on the pace etc on the Nike+ so it would be nice to be able to use S Health instead.
(Btw, Bluetooth is turned off so i'm not synced with the phone on either Nike+ or S-health while testing)
htcdiamondswe said:
I have the exact same issue. I've been running 5 test runs now with the Gear S using Nike+ and i've also brought my Samsung S5 with Endomondo and they have been pretty much spot on. Maybe 0-10 meters difference at max on a run from 5-10km so actually the Nike+ app seems to work just fine now. I'm using GPS + mobile networks turned on when i'm running.
But, yeah, S Health is is totaaaaaaaaaally off when it comes to distance for me to. I've tried a 4km test run 3 times, S health show about 2,1-2,6km every time. I almost thought the metrics was wrong at te beginning but that does not match up either. Very strange and I hope someone have a solution for this because I hate the small font on the pace etc on the Nike+ so it would be nice to be able to use S Health instead.
(Btw, Bluetooth is turned off so i'm not synced with the phone on either Nike+ or S-health while testing)
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It states in the user manual that gear s uses the pedometer in "running" to track distance, but will use gps to map the route. Which make this totally useless. I contacted Samsung and was on the phone for over on hour trying to explain this problem the assured me that it uses GPS data. So, I got in my car started the running app, held my arm out the window and drove 5 miles. After the drive the map showed the exact route I drove, but the distance said .2 miles. This is extremely frustrating. To date I have not found a single app that can do it all.
1. S-health - heart rate and map but no distance
2. Nike+ - map, distance but no heartrate and no voice feedback ie splits or pace, and reading is so small you cant really read on the run plus it always wants you to post the crap to facebook and you cant turn that feature off.
3. Mapmyrun - you still have to run with your phone. mapmyrun has the worst support. they will never respond to any comments or questions.
I wish I would have known all this before i got the gear s. I would have just a Garmin watch.
Yeah. I've also made a couple of test runs in the car. It's totally insane that they are using GPS on the map and not distance. I really, really hope they will fix this :|

Wifi Only Connection and Speaker Questions

It is my understanding that the Zen2 using only a wifi connection can send texts, do "OK Google", and perform other data related functions even if not connected to a phone (i.e. if phone has both bluetooth and wifi off, or is not in proximity to the watch nor on the same wifi network). Is that the case? Does the phone need to at least be connected to cellular data, or can the watch still communicate over wifi even if the phone has no data connection (or is completely off)?
Regarding the speaker: I know that the Zen2 can play music stored on the phone. But, is there any way (or app) to stream music (or video such as youtube) on the watches speaker without being connected to the phone (watch is only connected to a wifi network)?
Lastly, what about phone calls? Is there any way for the watch to receive/make a phone call "independently" of the phone if the watch is only connected to wifi? If not, what about receiving or making a "data only" call (such as using Hangouts)?
TIA!
1. Watch must be connected to phone.
2. No.
3. No.
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You can play YouTube videos (there is an app in the store). But I can't remember if it works on Bluetooth only. The downside is it seems to buffer the whole video before it starts, which took a while with my slow connection.
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So what is the point of having wifi on the watch if it still needs to be connected to the phone? I don't get it.
CentralVAHere said:
So what is the point of having wifi on the watch if it still needs to be connected to the phone? I don't get it.
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I still get notifications via wifi if my phone isnt in bluetooth range.
ok google seems to work half the time for me, but only on 2.4ghz networks. They have to be public (w/o a portal that makes you accept terms of use) or ones youve used on your phone (the watch gets the wifi password from your phone)
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I still get notifications via wifi if my phone isnt in bluetooth range.
ok google seems to work half the time for me, but only on 2.4ghz networks. They have to be public (w/o a portal that makes you accept terms of use) or ones youve used on your phone (the watch gets the wifi password from your phone)
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Hmmm, I am connected to my wifi router, with phone off. I sent myself an email but no notification. I try "okay google" but nothing but the watch saying I'm disconnected.
CentralVAHere said:
Hmmm, I am connected to my wifi router, with phone off. I sent myself an email but no notification. I try "okay google" but nothing but the watch saying I'm disconnected.
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Make your WiFi is set to automatic (on watch/wear) and you have cloud sync turned on
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Make your WiFi is set to automatic (on watch/wear) and you have cloud sync turned on
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Okay I have both cloudsync enabled (on phone's Wear app) and wifi set to automatic but still nothing. No email notifications and I have the crossed-out cloud icon on my phone. Perhaps the wear server is not working for me?
Did you just enable those settings now? If so, it probably takes some time to transmit the new info and WiFi password via slow Bluetooth. Leave you watch connected via Bluetooth and try again later.
I haven't tried to observe and test myself, but I would imagine there is some lag with getting the notifications since the watch connects and disconnects from WiFi periodically to save battery, as opposed to staying on WiFi constantly
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Did you just enable those settings now? If so, it probably takes some time to transmit the new info and WiFi password via slow Bluetooth. Leave you watch connected via Bluetooth and try again later
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No it's been setup for a while like that. I just now turned off sync, and unpaired my watch. I'm going to start from scratch, pair the watch and then turn on cloud sync and see where it gets me. Thanks for your help!
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No it's been setup for a while like that. I just now turned off sync, and unpaired my watch. I'm going to start from scratch, pair the watch and then turn on cloud sync and see where it gets me. Thanks for your help!
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OK, also check my previous post edit about lag due to battery saving on watch
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Additionally, when you turn wifi on automatic on the watch, stay on that screen until the wifi connects. Once it does, you can adjust the wifi sleep preferences from the advanced menu.
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hamagc said:
Additionally, when you turn wifi on automatic on the watch, stay on that screen until the wifi connects. Once it does, you can adjust the wifi sleep preferences from the advanced menu.
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I really would like to see an accurate list of what the Zenwatch 2
is capable of doing if I were to disable bluetooth on my phone &
only use the wifi feature in the phone and the watch.
I know I will not be able to make or receive phone calls if I do that.
But what about all the other functions of the watch?
Will wifi stay enabled in the watch if the bluetooth on my phone is disabled?
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Also I still have not found a way to sync/pair my watch to my phone without having to "unpair" after flashing
or restoring a different rom in my phone and setting up all the wear apps, android wear app and all the other
apps and settings which needs to be setup in the phone. (even after I reboot the watch and the phone)
The only solution I found was to "unpair" (factory reset the watch)
and after doing that the phone pairs just fine with anderoid wear
and starts the very long syncing process.
There must be some way of pairing and syncing the watch to the
phone without having to "unpair" it and start from scratch.
Thanks!
Misterjunky said:
I really would like to see an accurate list of what the Zenwatch 2
is capable of doing if I were to disable bluetooth on my phone &
only use the wifi feature in the phone and the watch.
I know I will not be able to make or receive phone calls if I do that.
But what about all the other functions of the watch?
Will wifi stay enabled in the watch if the bluetooth on my phone is disabled?
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Also I still have not found a way to sync/pair my watch to my phone without having to "unpair" after flashing
or restoring a different rom in my phone and setting up all the wear apps, android wear app and all the other
apps and settings which needs to be setup in the phone. (even after I reboot the watch and the phone)
The only solution I found was to "unpair" (factory reset the watch)
and after doing that the phone pairs just fine with anderoid wear
and starts the very long syncing process.
There must be some way of pairing and syncing the watch to the
phone without having to "unpair" it and start from scratch.
Thanks!
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Look for "reset wear client" apk here on XDA. It allows you to re-pair watch to different devices or different ROMs on same device without factory resetting
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re: will try OK.
slothdabski said:
Look for "reset wear client" apk here on XDA. It allows you to re-pair watch to different devices or different ROMs on same device without factory resetting
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Thanks,, that sounds great but can you please tell me the exact name of that
app in the play store, I did a play store search for "Reset wear client" but I
could not find anything even similar to that name.
Thanks again!
Misterjunky said:
Thanks,, that sounds great but can you please tell me the exact name of that
app in the play store, I did a play store search for "Reset wear client" but I
could not find anything even similar to that name.
Thanks again!
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Its not in play store
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and.../app-reset-wear-client-switch-phones-t3058962
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Its not in play store
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and.../app-reset-wear-client-switch-phones-t3058962
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The ADB commands don't work at all, and after much reading in that thread you
posted I finally found out why it's not working for me.
I have upgraded my zenwatch 2 to Marshmallow 6.0 a few weeks ago and I got another
small ota update a few days ago which upgraded the OS version from v1.4 to v1.5 ...
So I am back at square one.
I am not interested in using more than one phone (S7 Edge) with my watch.
The only thing I need is a way to pair and sync my watch without needing to do a
"unpair-device" each time I use twrp to restore a different nandroid backup of my
phone's custom rom or simply restore the same custom rom both of which has
already been fully paired and synced with the watch.
Misterjunky said:
The ADB commands don't work at all, and after much reading in that thread you
posted I finally found out why it's not working for me.
I have upgraded my zenwatch 2 to Marshmallow 6.0 and a few weeks ago and I
got another small ota update which upgraded the OS version from v1.4 to v1.5 ...
So I am back at square one.
I am not interested in using more than one phone (S7 Edge) with my watch.
The only thing I need is a way to pair and sync my watch without needing to do a
"unpair-device" each time I use twrp to restore a different nandroid backup of my
phone's custom rom or simply restore the same custom rom both of which has
already been fully paired and synced with the watch.
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Your watch should stay paired after an update unless you wipe the data partition, or unlock the bootloader which wipes the data partition
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Your watch should stay paired after an update unless you wipe the data partition, or unlock the bootloader which wipes the data partition
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My problem has nothing to do with any updates.
Please read my original post a couple of posts back.
Thanks.
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Misterjunky said:
My problem has nothing to do with any updates.
Please read my original post a couple of posts back.
Thanks.
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I think that apk I linked to addresses the issue in your original post. Install the apk on your phone and it will load the app on to your watch. Once you need to setup your watch with a new phone or ROM, open the reset wear client on your watch. Click the "reset gms" button (root required). This will reboot your watch. Now your watch is ready to be paired to a new ROM or device without a factory reset or re-syncing of apps. Open the reset wear client app on your watch and click make BT discoverable. Then click yes. Now you can open android wear app on your phone and click on your watch. It will say pairing complete and updating. At this point you will reboot both your phone and watch. Then they should both connect fine and function without having to reset or re-sync your watch apps
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