I've been wanting to buy a dock for my new xperia z2, but i'm a little concerned that off brand dock chargers may damage my phone battery or the magnetic terminals of the phone.
Is there any truth to this?
If you don't use the correct charging values, can it corrupt your battery?
WhyYouLittle said:
I've been wanting to buy a dock for my new xperia z2, but i'm a little concerned that off brand dock chargers may damage my phone battery or the magnetic terminals of the phone.
Is there any truth to this?
If you don't use the correct charging values, can it corrupt your battery?
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I've been an Xperia owner for years and have always used the cheapest docks I could find on ebay. I've never had any issues with battery life on my phones (have had Xperia Z, Z2, Z3, then back to Z2). Just make sure you give your phone a good overnight charge on a wall charger every couple of months or so and you'll be fine.
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I use chepest dock from ebay and sometimes when I put phone on dock he connect-disconnect-connect-dis.... and I muve little phone and all is good no problems with charging.
I have the VicTsing Dock.
It's not expensive compared to the Sony branded one and the quality is really good.
Also there is a pass-trough USB port on the back that allow you to sync data or even connect any USB device.
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OK does anyone know if the charging rate of the official DK30 charging dock is the same as the standard mirco usb charging rate.
I bought a magnetic cable from DX box and I've also tried a couple of mico usb magnetic adaptors and they are terrible.
The micro usb will normally charge my phone completely in 2 hours, literally I can have it connected using the cheep magnetic connector all day in work and it will only gain 30-40%
Im thinking its got to be easier just to buy the official dock, but I want to check first that the charging is as fast and normal micro usb. :good:
I have the DK30, and it charges incredible quick. From 5 - 50% goes like "that", while 50% is a little slower. But it charges the whole battery in like 2 hours.
LordManhattan said:
I have the DK30, and it charges incredible quick. From 5 - 50% goes like "that", while 50% is a little slower. But it charges the whole battery in like 2 hours.
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Thats good to know... I did try removing my TPU case using the cheep connectors the charging rate jumped by about 200mA so it is no doubt partly due to a poor connection with the TPU case on.. I may have to cut out the case a bit I suppose..
Any chance you can install this current widget app as see what it brings back as the charging rate of the dock mate..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget&hl=en
It shows net charging rate I think... If you leave it running for a min or two with the screen off and then switch screen on it should show the true charging rate.
I get the following results, all using the stock sony charger.
1070mA with the micro usb.
300mA with the dx-box magnetic cable
400mA with the micro usb magnetic adaptor
I just want to make sure there isn't something kernel ralated thats slowing the magnetic charging rate. I'll just get the official Sony one then
Sure, i can do that, but i'm at work right now, so i won't be able to do it until later
LordManhattan said:
Sure, i can do that, but i'm at work right now, so i won't be able to do it until later
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No problem, appreciate it :good:
I'm back. Sorry for the delay I'm getting 1000-1300 mA
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I'm back. Sorry for the delay I'm getting 1000-1300 mA
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Awesome, I'll get one ordered up now
baileyjr said:
OK does anyone know if the charging rate of the official DK30 charging dock is the same as the standard mirco usb charging rate.
I bought a magnetic cable from DX box and I've also tried a couple of mico usb magnetic adaptors and they are terrible.
The micro usb will normally charge my phone completely in 2 hours, literally I can have it connected using the cheep magnetic connector all day in work and it will only gain 30-40%
Im thinking its got to be easier just to buy the official dock, but I want to check first that the charging is as fast and normal micro usb. :good:
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i originally purchased the dk30 and removed the ec21 cable from it and it used t work pretty good. i purchased a couple knockoff ones on ebay and they work the same. given im using an ipad block, i am getting 1075mA with the knock off and 2.1A block. i plugged back in the ec21 into ipad block and i got the same numbers.
i am not sure what the stock sony charging block is rated at. for all i know it could in fact be a 2.1A block and its all in my head that the apple one charges quicker. cant tell because the lettering on the sony one is so small.
i will tell you this though, i did noticed at work my charging does take quite a bit longer, but i want to believe its because i have music streaming as well as smartwatch 2 connected. plus i get alot of texts and stuff so im always on it. hahah
Magnetic USB Charging Cable, some one will try it?
http://dx-box.com/high-performance-...e-magnetic-connection-and-charging-speed.html
I will not touch a third party charger. I want to buy the DK30/Dk31 dock and take it apart for the EC21 cable but I'm not sure if its compatible? Does Somebody know maybe?
The page doesn't load for me, but I'd trust the microUSB -> Magnetic convertors over the entire charger. That way you can use the OEM charger or another high quality charger.
A lot of brandless chargers are made lower quality and that can lead to issues where phones "explode". Odds are, whenever you read about a person's phone exploding they were probably using a knockoff charger.
The adapters shouldn't be a problem. It's just a simple wire-to-wire exchange. No circuits.
Something like this
http://www.amazon.com/Magnector-Per...1144360&sr=8-1&keywords=magnetic+charger+sony
EDIT: I got a kick out of "Reverse Attachment Charging Protection", because the charging holes are just different sizes.
My Z1 magnetic charging cable works although it is a tad more easy to dislodge compared to when I was using it on my z1
I have THIS http://www.clove.co.uk/microusb-to-magnetic-connector-adapter and I must say it doesn't work perfectly. The adaptater doesn't 'grip', it stays in place only if you put you Z3 down.
jonshipman said:
A lot of brandless chargers are made lower quality and that can lead to issues where phones "explode".
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OF COURSE. There are phones exploding just everywhere; you just cannot leave the house without ear protectors because there's exploding phones all around you.
Honestly; I am so sick of reading that "exploding phone" stories over and over. Same with stolen kidneys and similar paramountly believable urban legends.
Is this the charger wich comes with z3 in box ?
Quick Charger EP881
I cant find spec for this,is this the 2A or 1.5A ?
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Is this the charger wich comes with z3 in box ?
Quick Charger EP881
I cant find spec for this,is this the 2A or 1.5A ?
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believe its 1.5A based on the same code found on other sony country sites.
http://www.sony.com.sg/product/ep881
however, lazy to check if its the same model that comes with the Z3 although i believe it should be!
This is the one my Z3 came with. T-mobile Netherlands model.
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This is 2.5A fast charger wich is great.How much time it needs to 100% charge the battery?Im geting mine tomorrow,hope that comes with same charger.
I'm pretty sure it is 1,5A. Charged my device only once with it and I was surprised with the speed. Will do a timed run next time round.
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This is 2.5A fast charger wich is great.How much time it needs to 100% charge the battery?Im geting mine tomorrow,hope that comes with same charger.
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the picture clearly reads 1500mA and that's what it is. This charger was included with my z3 as well.
2.30h to fully charge the batery with original 1.5A charger.Its not so bad.
EP880 is 1.5A, and is what came with my Z3. I'm intrigued to know what the 881 is.
In fact, given its support of Quick Charge 2.0, I am hopeful of Sony releasing a new PSU that can detect a QC2 compatible device and up the power further. So far I can only find one from Motorola and it's not on sale outside the US (that I can see).
Hi All,
Thought I'd give my review of two different magnetic cables I've purchased from my Xperia Z3.
Firstly, I purchased a £3 magnetic cable from Ebay which was utterly a waste of money! Soon as you picked the phone up or touched it the connection port would move up or down. I contacted the seller who is sending me a replacement so will see if this is any better.
Now on to the more expensive magnetic cable but with a twist.
This magnetic cable I purchased from Amazon had great reviews from previous Z2 users. Now I wasn't sure if it was Z3 compatible but turned out the ports are the same for Z2 and Z3. So I purchased the item from Flubit as you get a little discount if they can get a deal for you and it arrived within 2-3 working days.
Item name: [ Magnector X ] High Performance Universal Sony Xperia Z1 & Z2 & Z3 Charging Adapter for Micro USB Cable - Enhanced Magnetic Connection and Charging Speed [ Black ]
This product felt more durable and solid when taking it out of the mildly fancy packaging. The product itself isn't connected to a cable but has a micro usb port which you attach your original Sony cable to. (unfortunately I need 10 posts before i can show pics but just check it out on Amazon. I tried it for the first time last night as my phone stays next to my pillow and it seems to do the trick as it didn't fall off even with my cheapy case attached to it in the morning.
As the saying is, buy cheap...buy twice! Hope this review helps anyone on making a decision between the cheap ones and expensive ones.:good:
figo_rulz11 said:
Hi All,
Thought I'd give my review of two different magnetic cables I've purchased from my Xperia Z3.
Firstly, I purchased a £3 magnetic cable from Ebay which was utterly a waste of money! Soon as you picked the phone up or touched it the connection port would move up or down. I contacted the seller who is sending me a replacement so will see if this is any better.
Now on to the more expensive magnetic cable but with a twist.
This magnetic cable I purchased from Amazon had great reviews from previous Z2 users. Now I wasn't sure if it was Z3 compatible but turned out the ports are the same for Z2 and Z3. So I purchased the item from Flubit as you get a little discount if they can get a deal for you and it arrived within 2-3 working days.
Item name: [ Magnector X ] High Performance Universal Sony Xperia Z1 & Z2 & Z3 Charging Adapter for Micro USB Cable - Enhanced Magnetic Connection and Charging Speed [ Black ]
This product felt more durable and solid when taking it out of the mildly fancy packaging. The product itself isn't connected to a cable but has a micro usb port which you attach your original Sony cable to. (unfortunately I need 10 posts before i can show pics but just check it out on Amazon. I tried it for the first time last night as my phone stays next to my pillow and it seems to do the trick as it didn't fall off even with my cheapy case attached to it in the morning.
As the saying is, buy cheap...buy twice! Hope this review helps anyone on making a decision between the cheap ones and expensive ones.:good:
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I also just got this cable through today and its fantastic.
Avoid the cheap ones.
Got one first thing Monday morning via Amazon and super impressed because I ordered it at 6.55pm on Sunday night!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00H2EEB4S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I got mine from Amazon (Prime) but there was only one in stock and I got it, so now it's showing from another supplier.
It's great! I had two unknown Chinese-made ones before, and both struggled to stick to my Z2 or Z3, causing all sorts of weird issues (mostly that of what it would be like to attach and detach the lead repeatedly). They're now history.
So far this is clamping on so solid that there's no chance of that happening, and I always 'rotate' the magnetic chargers off so no chance of pulling out the connector.
I also got the official dock, but at £20-odd at a time (and I now have a mountain of docks because all I need are the inserts, not a new dock for each phone) I will probably get one or two more of these. The dock by the bedside and these around the house and at work.
Hi what's do you mean by rotate to keep it secured?
When taking off I simply fold/twist it back rather than pull it off and risk damage, given how strong the magnetic force is.
I have bought this one on ebay , "Magnetic Charging Dock Cradle Desktop Charger for Sony Xperia Z3 and Z3 Compact" for about 10 euro's (incl sending)
it works nice , you don't need to open the covers each time.
Any chance that the Xperia z4 tablet will have wireless charging? Did any of the previous Xperia devices ever have this feature?
To my knowledge, the only Xperia device so far that has had wireless charging has been the Z3v Verizon variant in the US. The z2 and z3 series all have magnetic charging. Not sure about the ones before that. As far as the Z4 Tablet goes, I have seen no mention of wireless charging or magnetic charging, and the images don't show a place for a magnetic charger, so I'm not sure.
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Wireless Charging is essentially the transmission of an electrical current from a power source to a receiving device without the use of a physical connection. The electrical current is then used to charge or re-charge the battery of the receiving device. In this circumstance the receiving device can be anything from a smartphone or wearable, to a large industrial forklift.
I dont think so that will happen... Sony will not add :/
I feel as if Sony would have mentioned or advertised it. Plus, that's quite a large pad.
yes, sure sony will add this feature
Er.. how exactly? I see no contacts where a dock connector could charge it semi-wireless and no spec sheet says anything about it having hardware for any true wireless charging in it.
I suspect Sony thought because the USB port does not need a flap like the previous models there is not as much need for a charging dock. For myself they are likely right. There is for me no huge difference convenience wise between putting the unit into a dock or plugging in a cable (assuming the cable is already there anyway).
for those who have it and used it for long time..
1) is it charging faster/slower/same than regularly charging? (with the same charger of course)
2) is it actually comfortable? after trying it, do you actually use it daily and enjoy or its a gimmick only and you went back to the regular cable?
3) is it causing any damages? bugs? weird stuffs?
I'm Z owner (it doesn't compatible with magnets) and I'm considering to upgrade to z2/3/3c with mainly reason of the magnetic charging..
Some experience sharing would really help me out here.. YouTube is only for unboxing and showing it but no real tips from experienced users..
Thanks.
Been using magnetic chargers for bout half a year. So far:
1) The charging time is pretty much the same. I've been using the cheap chinese ones and haven't noticed a significant increase in the time it takes.
2) If you're willing to buy an expensive cable, I suppose the magnet would be stronger, but in my one dollar case it disconnects pretty easily. So it's not really comfortable when you have to keep the phone on a flat surface while charging. But people use magnetic cables to prevent the wear and tear of the flaps, and so do I.
3) No bugs, it's just a charger. The only thing that can go wrong is having your battery fried if you plug the cable incorrectly
1) same speed which actually depends more on used charger than the cable type
2) for charging I use only magnetic cable or cradle. In fact I used USB cable for maybe 2 days only and will never return back
3) lockscreen rotates according to the gravity sensor, otherwise no difference or issue
It's worth the investment. Really helps to protect the flaps and save time opening them
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Thank you all!
Just make sure you never attach the cable inverted, otherwise it will fry not only the battery, but the whole motherboard. and also, make sure that nobody tries to charge it but you, as most people are careless and might attach it the wrong way. I have heard some dreadful stories about inverting the magnetic cable, this is a major design flaw from Sony, but again, all of those cables are fake and there is no genuine one from Sony, but only the dock, I don't know whether the phone can be put the wrong way in the dock as well. I have bought one for 9$ and working great, except the magnet isn't strong enough and it gets detached very easily. Good luck
Make sure u bought a high quality/expensive magnetic charger or u will regret, just like me. Ive using the local/cheap magnetic charger, and im really pissed off, the led charging keep blinking even if an ant pass through. This is what im using now, and i recommended for u too. http://www.amazon.com/Magnector-Improved-Performance-Magnetic-Charging/dp/B00Q3GK3YI
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...........this is a major design flaw from Sony, but again, all of those cables are fake and there is no genuine one from Sony, but only the dock, I don't know whether the phone can be put the wrong way in the dock as well.
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actually it's not!
If you take a really close look you see that one of the pin's has a bigger plastic encasing. So it "shouldn't" be possible to connect the magnetic charger the wrong way.
And about the Dock... who would try to put the phone into the dock with the display facing the wall? xD well okay... yeah... if it's dark and you're drunk... i can totally see me doing this....
BTT: i can reccomend this Magnector cables! i have one myself, after i bough 3 in China this is the first one working correctly, aka charging fast enough.
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actually it's not!
If you take a really close look you see that one of the pin's has a bigger plastic encasing. So it "shouldn't" be possible to connect the magnetic charger the wrong way.
And about the Dock... who would try to put the phone into the dock with the display facing the wall? xD well okay... yeah... if it's dark and you're drunk... i can totally see me doing this....
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Just google for Z ultra magnetic charger options and you will see how many motherboard got fried from inverted mag charger. I know that there are to pols one is a bit larger but still, the connector can enter the wrong way, at least some connector.
Hi, i bought the dk36 dock with magnetic charger on amazon, cheaper than the official sony shop, it charges in the same time. A friend told me that the magnetic cables are very bad, they are very cheap but can make the phone burn because of the low quality as you say.
manolilloi said:
Hi, i bought the dk36 dock with magnetic charger on amazon, cheaper than the official sony shop, it charges in the same time. A friend told me that the magnetic cables are very bad, they are very cheap but can make the phone burn because of the low quality as you say.
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Your friend doesn't know anything about electronics. Do you even know how the magnetic charging works? The only bad thing that can happen from chinese docks is slow charging. I have a DIY magnetic cable and it works great in terms of speed(it had a really weak magnet and a dock came with my Z2, so I don't use it anymore). Reverse polarity is unlikely to happen-most mag connectors are keyed. But anyways, be careful with the orientation.
Hello!
I bought a Z2 and just have normal cable to it. I want magnetic cable but I saw here at xda that some are make the port come out. Which one should I buy? I saw a wsken official cable:http://www.ebay.com/itm/WSKEN-Official-LED-Magnetic-Charger-Cable-For-Sony-Xperia-Z3-Z2-Z1-Compact-Table-/291512272611?var=&hash=item43df7c46e3:m:mejdIkOu8Mj8vYha4mdVvHw
Anyone using it? Or can recommend a quality one please?
Mr. Dii
Hi.
About the battery charger you are asking do not know, I did not use this, but I can say my opinion about the form 2M-Magnetic-Smart-Charger-Cable-With-LED-For-Sony-Xperia-Z3-Z2-Z-Ultra-Compact - In such a charger I opted and bought because it is more compact than the other and the signal charge can be seen from different angles, not just one side.
I dont know if its my phone , but if you buy a magnetic charger be careful while using it, if you switch the plus and minus it will ruin your battery as it did to my phone! always put plus on plus and minus on minus if you DONT reverse !! and btw , magnetic charger seemed to lower my battery time , it got faster drainage by time and slower charging , again could be my phone or a defect in my batter but whatever you do dont reverse plus and minus
Diimk said:
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About the battery charger you are asking do not know, I did not use this, but I can say my opinion about the form 2M-Magnetic-Smart-Charger-Cable-With-LED-For-Sony-Xperia-Z3-Z2-Z-Ultra-Compact - In such a charger I opted and bought because it is more compact than the other and the signal charge can be seen from different angles, not just one side.
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Thanks for tip. I buy one soon.
Madshark2009:
I know. Many hungarian forum member said they killed charging and battery with reverse charging. I always check it.
Look for another option "Nairuid 1M Magnetic LED USB Charging Cable SONY Xperia Z1 Z2 Z3 Ultra Compact s". Now I looked at, it turns out I'm currently taking "Nairuid 1M". They are very similar to those which I wrote to you earlier. What is the difference not know, maybe, or as some minor details. Compare again before buying.
Diimk said:
Look for another option "Nairuid 1M Magnetic LED USB Charging Cable SONY Xperia Z1 Z2 Z3 Ultra Compact s". Now I looked at, it turns out I'm currently taking "Nairuid 1M". They are very similar to those which I wrote to you earlier. What is the difference not know, maybe, or as some minor details. Compare again before buying.
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The first cable you said is not hsip to Hungary so i think the second one i buy.