So when I load into hboot, my phone says tampered, unlocked, m8_UL_Ca PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-3.16.0.0000
RADIO-1.16.21331931.LA11G
and other stuff. So i'm curious, is my bootloader unlocked? I can also get into twrp recovery, so idk if that means its unlocked. And I'm guessing its s-on, so how do you s-off? Also does s-on mean I can't flash any custom roms and kernals? thanks
gainstatom said:
So when I load into hboot, my phone says tampered, unlocked, m8_UL_Ca PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-3.16.0.0000
RADIO-1.16.21331931.LA11G
and other stuff. So i'm curious, is my bootloader unlocked? I can also get into twrp recovery, so idk if that means its unlocked. And I'm guessing its s-on, so how do you s-off? Also does s-on mean I can't flash any custom roms and kernals? thanks
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Yes your bootloader is unlocked so you can install custom recoveries and install ROM's, you dont need to be S-OFF to flash most ROM's. To S-OFF you can try Firewater first, if it fails then you have to pay the $25 to S-OFF through Sunshine.
How do I use firewater when he discontinued it?
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You don't need s-off to flash ROMs or kernels. You do however need s-off to update firmware to 3.xx. And many current ROMs will have broken WiFi if you don't update the firmware.
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gainstatom said:
How do I use firewater when he discontinued it?
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Its not clear to me whether the exploit will still work if you already have (or can get) the files; or if its stopped working. Since an internet connection was needed for the exploit to work, I tend to believe the latter is true.
Since firewater wasn't working for most folks even before it was discontinued, its probably your best bet just to pay for sunshine if you want s-off.
EDIT: I have read on the firewater threads in the "international" M8 section, that firewater is indeed an online service, and is now dead.
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I have no idea what I did, but I have S-off 1.5 HBOOT, yet my phone is still locked...
Proof attached.
I will attempt to unlock the phone using HTC's Method. Will post results
So
I am now unlocked using the the HTC method (I had S-Off already right?)
Any chance this is a holdover from when the revolutionary method failed, which was before I was forced to update on Aug 23rd? There's really no logical reason my S should be off right?
Shabadage said:
I am now unlocked using the the HTC method (I had S-Off already right?)
Any chance this is a holdover from when the revolutionary method failed, which was before I was forced to update on Aug 23rd? There's really no logical reason my S should be off right?
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If you ran revolutionary prior to get the OTA then that would explain why you still have S-Off even with HBoot 1.50
I'm in the same boat.. I just purchased a used EVO 3D, the first thing I wanted to do was check hboot. Unfortunately it has hboot 1.50 installed, but it reports S-OFF. Like you I'm thinking the previous owner unlocked and achieved s-off but then updated which locked the bootloader .
That being said, I'm bummed.. I can either go the HTC method (void warr) or get in line and wait for the proper support in a upcoming revolutionary release? Do I have any other options? Is there nothing else I can do?
*** LOCKED ***
SHOOTER XC SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.50.0000
RADIO-0.97.10.0808
eMMC-boot
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LuBi said:
I'm in the same boat.. I just purchased a used EVO 3D, the first thing I wanted to do was check hboot. Unfortunately it has hboot 1.50 installed, but it reports S-OFF. Like you I'm thinking the previous owner unlocked and achieved s-off but then updated which locked the bootloader .
That being said, I'm bummed.. I can either go the HTC method (void warr) or get in line and wait for the proper support in a upcoming revolutionary release? Do I have any other options? Is there nothing else I can do?
*** LOCKED ***
SHOOTER XC SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.50.0000
RADIO-0.97.10.0808
eMMC-boot
Aug 7 2011, 10:2140
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If it's s-off, you can flash anything you want...right? You can downgrade hboot if the locked bothers you or just use HTC's method. Just try flashing something and see if it works. I have a feeling it will.
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LuBi said:
I'm in the same boat.. I just purchased a used EVO 3D, the first thing I wanted to do was check hboot. Unfortunately it has hboot 1.50 installed, but it reports S-OFF. Like you I'm thinking the previous owner unlocked and achieved s-off but then updated which locked the bootloader .
That being said, I'm bummed.. I can either go the HTC method (void warr) or get in line and wait for the proper support in a upcoming revolutionary release? Do I have any other options? Is there nothing else I can do?
*** LOCKED ***
SHOOTER XC SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.50.0000
RADIO-0.97.10.0808
eMMC-boot
Aug 7 2011, 10:2140
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With S-Off you should still be able to flash a custom recovery and root even though your boot loader is locked. That is the beauty of using Revolutionary, you may lose root when you take updates, but it keeps you S-Off and you can re-root by flashing CWM and Superuser.
mwalt2 said:
If it's s-off, you can flash anything you want...right? You can downgrade hboot if the locked bothers you or just use HTC's method. Just try flashing something and see if it works. I have a feeling it will.
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tpbklake said:
With S-Off you should still be able to flash a custom recovery and root even though your boot loader is locked. That is the beauty of using Revolutionary, you may lose root when you take updates, but it keeps you S-Off and you can re-root by flashing CWM and Superuser.
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That's what I thought, I attempted to flash recovery from adb but was geeting an error message (FAILED (remote: not allowed). So after reading your replies I decided to try install TWRP by way of PG86IMG.zip, which worked. I removed the *.zip, rebooted into hboot, and then launched recovery. I'm doing a nandroid backup as we speak then will attempt to install a ROM.
this is what my hboot says and im not sure why
LOCKED
VIGOR PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-2.11.0000
why is there a "RL" at the end of s-off
I don't know what the rl stands for and I'd like to know as well, but that is perfectly normal. I recommended the dev hboot if you intend to modify from here on out as unlocking with the htcdev will make it a pain to return to stock. (Relock, s-on, s-off then s-on again)
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Kennnny1 said:
I don't know what the rl stands for and I'd like to know as well, but that is perfectly normal. I recommended the dev hboot if you intend to modify from here on out as unlocking with the htcdev will make it a pain to return to stock. (Relock, s-on, s-off then s-on again)
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ive been s-off for a while now and i was on a modifided hboot with ics firmware and ics rom. i decided to downgrade my firmware to the 2.11 GB. after that is when the RL showed up at the end of s-off.
i never unlocked after s-offing and now its is acting like im locked and s-on.
i even had to flash recovery with fastboot as no other method would work.
i am going to unlock and s-off again. i just thought it was weird how it happend
nevermind, i just looked at a pic i had and the "RL" is there. i guess i just never noticed it before
Are you still s-off'd? Did you unlock yet? It's as easy as flashing a patched 2.11 hboot via ph98img to get fastboot commands to work again.
Do not bother to unlock once you have S-off. Trust me, just unwanted trouble.
Just flash a JuopunutBear hboot.
Edit: to elaborate just a bit, if you did need to do a warranty exchange or repair and wanted the bootloader to look stock by saying Locked/S-on:
Coming from Locked/S-off you'd just run a GB RUU and do a few fastboot commands to achieve S-on.
Coming from Unlocked/S-off, you'll need to do the RUU, relock bootloader, and do fastboot commands for S-on... then the whole S-off procedure again... then repeat RUU and fastboot S-on.
I rooted and got S-Off using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2026938
Afterwards I had to do a reset through the phone due to data issues, now its showing S-On, and nothing is working to turn it back off. Running the RUU errors everytime. Any help that can be provided is greatly appreciated.
Did you relock your bootloader? You need to do that before running the RUU.
Well if you followed the link you posted, then you were never s-off. That thread is not a s-off thread. That would explain the s-on. Can you boot the rom.?
dw0783 said:
I rooted and got S-Off using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2026938
Afterwards I had to do a reset through the phone due to data issues, now its showing S-On, and nothing is working to turn it back off. Running the RUU errors everytime. Any help that can be provided is greatly appreciated.
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My thread you posted only tells you how to unlock the bootloader,install TWRP recovery,and install SuperSU it does not give you S-OFF you need to go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964309 or http://unlimited.io/jewel.htm if you want to get S-OFF
bigdaddy619 said:
My thread you posted only tells you how to unlock the bootloader,install TWRP recovery,and install SuperSU it does not give you S-OFF you need to go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964309 or http://unlimited.io/jewel.htm if you want to get S-OFF
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I followed the directions under windows and unlocked it through htcdev.com. It did say S-OFF, now i have Tampered. Unlocked, Jewel PVT Ship S-On RL
I've tried the directions i found to relock the bootloader but nothing has worked.
dw0783 said:
I followed the directions under windows and unlocked it through htcdev.com. It did say S-OFF, now i have Tampered. Unlocked, Jewel PVT Ship S-On RL
I've tried the directions i found to relock the bootloader but nothing has worked.
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It would not say S-OFF unless you used the DirtyRacun. It says Tampered Unlocked because you used htcdev.com to unlock your bootloader
I have read pages and pages from the Android Development forum for the HTC Evo 4G LTE and I can't seem to find a solution that works for me because going S-OFF or re-locking bootloader and loading RUU does not seem feasible for my situation.
The phone has custom recovery (TWRP) and we successfully loaded Viperboy's deodexed 3.15 stock ROM.
Baseband is 1.02.12.0427 (super outdated)
This phone was bought second hand and is a HTC dev unlocked phone, S-ON
I would like to update the baseband to 1.12.11.1200 and update the firmware to 3.16
Caveats: I don't have access to the phone, my friend can reload custom ROMs through TWRP, but beyond that I don't think we can go through Dirty Racun and S-Off, I don't know how we can easily check the HBOOT version to determine if the HBOOT version is 1.12
What would happen if we accepted the Sprint OTA? Are we SOL with the baseband because we are S-ON?
Is there any way we can get on MeanBean 3 or stock rooted 3.16?
Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
I wouldnt accept the OTA update to 3.16
I actually did just that when I relocked my phone on Saturday and had all sort of problems after that. Now, I'm not too sure you would even be able to install the update being that your phone is unlocked *citation needed*.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2135670 - talks about the 3.16 OTA problems
thanks, I've definitely advised my friend to stay away from the OTA and disregard it. I think we are experiencing call/wifi issues due to the old baseband. I wonder what are the next possible steps to move forward from here...
BaconMunch said:
thanks, I've definitely advised my friend to stay away from the OTA and disregard it. I think we are experiencing call/wifi issues due to the old baseband. I wonder what are the next possible steps to move forward from here...
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1. Stay on this baseband and deal with it.
2. Relock and RUU your way up to 3.15 (stay away from 3.16)
3. S-off and Flash a couple full firmware zips.
Sadly I think those are your only option. And to check your hboot just boot into bootloader. Hold volume down when powering on.
tilltheend714 said:
1. Stay on this baseband and deal with it.
2. Relock and RUU your way up to 3.15 (stay away from 3.16)
3. S-off and Flash a couple full firmware zips.
Sadly I think those are your only option. And to check your hboot just boot into bootloader. Hold volume down when powering on.
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Thanks, I think that seems realistic, I'm concerned that if I relock through HTCDev, I read that some email/password might go to the original seller of the phone (ebay) for confirmation code, so I don't want to get stuck halfway
I am definitely crossing my fingers for HBoot v1.12, to confirm, once I check my version in the bootloader, I guess I can escape without taking any of the menu options (checking YouTube, I'll just go to recovery, enter TWRP, reboot, system).
BaconMunch said:
Thanks, I think that seems realistic, I'm concerned that if I relock through HTCDev, I read that some email/password might go to the original seller of the phone (ebay) for confirmation code, so I don't want to get stuck halfway
I am definitely crossing my fingers for HBoot v1.12, to confirm, once I check my version in the bootloader, I guess I can escape without taking any of the menu options (checking YouTube, I'll just go to recovery, enter TWRP, reboot, system).
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Relocking the phone is done through fastboot on the computer. Nothing to do with HTC. And Dev unlocked means you get an unlock token from HTC to the email that you signed up with. So if you make your own account on HTC dev and request a token, it should send nothing to the other owner.
And sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by having Hboot 1.12. You mean only flashing the radio through recovery? If that's what you mean than I can't help with that. Not sure how that works or if there are problems with that.
great news! I had someone take screen shots of the HBoot (v.1.12.0000) and TWRP (v2.2.1) menu
Bootloader shows:
Code:
*** TAMPERED ***
*** UNLOCKED ***
JEWEL PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.12.0000
RADIO-1.02.12.0427
OpenDSP-v25.1.0.32.0405
eMM-boot
So as far as I know, I'm going to make sure there's nothing wrong with the TAMPERED, and then I can flash 1.12.11.1210 through Captain_Throwbacks Radio Only zip and then looks for a 3.16 custom firmware compatible with S-On since I'm on build number 3.15.651.16 CL124461.
I'd appreciate anyone to chime in if I'm going down a bad path here. Cheers!
BaconMunch said:
great news! I had someone take screen shots of the HBoot (v.1.12.0000) and TWRP (v2.2.1) menu
Bootloader shows:
Code:
*** TAMPERED ***
*** UNLOCKED ***
JEWEL PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.12.0000
RADIO-1.02.12.0427
OpenDSP-v25.1.0.32.0405
eMM-boot
So as far as I know, I'm going to make sure there's nothing wrong with the TAMPERED, and then I can flash 1.12.11.1210 through Captain_Throwbacks Radio Only zip and then looks for a 3.16 custom firmware compatible with S-On since I'm on build number 3.15.651.16 CL124461.
I'd appreciate anyone to chime in if I'm going down a bad path here. Cheers!
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You've indeed unlocked the bootloader properly but this only let's you flash recoveries and custom roms. You have to S-OFF the phone to update firmware via bootloader. You're other option would be to RUU which would upgrade the firmware and software and that CAN be done with S-ON, however there is a problem with the update which disables touch input so you should either wait for a dev to make custom 3.16 rom and forget about the firmware OR wait for a fix from HTC and run that RUU whenever it comes out.
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You've indeed unlocked the bootloader properly but this only let's you flash recoveries and custom roms. You have to S-OFF the phone to update firmware via bootloader. You're other option would be to RUU which would upgrade the firmware and software and that CAN be done with S-ON, however there is a problem with the update which disables touch input so you should either wait for a dev to make custom 3.16 rom and forget about the firmware OR wait for a fix from HTC and run that RUU whenever it comes out.
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Thanks xlxcrossing! I messaged Captain for a a recovery flash for the baseband only and he said my approach is no good either. So seems like I have to RUU to get off 1.12 anyways since LazyPanda is not supported and DirtyRacun starts at 1.15
So I am looking at the UNLIMITED.IO site now
step 1) relock via fastboot
step 2) RUU 1.15 or 1.19 (so this means my firmware/software/hboot will be updated as well?)
From here if I stop, I will be S-ON so I can...
option 1) RUU 2.09 and stay on 3.15
option 2) unlock bootloader from HTCDev and stay S-ON
option 3) unlock bootloader from HTCDev and DirtyRacun S-OFF (which actually seems like a very simple process once unlocked)
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Thanks xlxcrossing! I messaged Captain for a a recovery flash for the baseband only and he said my approach is no good either. So seems like I have to RUU to get off 1.12 anyways since LazyPanda is not supported and DirtyRacun starts at 1.15
So I am looking at the UNLIMITED.IO site now
step 1) relock via fastboot
step 2) RUU 1.15 or 1.19 (so this means my firmware/software/hboot will be updated as well?)
From here if I stop, I will be S-ON so I can...
option 1) RUU 2.09 and stay on 3.15
option 2) unlock bootloader from HTCDev and stay S-ON
option 3) unlock bootloader from HTCDev and DirtyRacun S-OFF (which actually seems like a very simple process once unlocked)
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My advice is get s-off it will save alot of headaches down the road
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BaconMunch said:
Thanks xlxcrossing! I messaged Captain for a a recovery flash for the baseband only and he said my approach is no good either. So seems like I have to RUU to get off 1.12 anyways since LazyPanda is not supported and DirtyRacun starts at 1.15
So I am looking at the UNLIMITED.IO site now
step 1) relock via fastboot
step 2) RUU 1.15 or 1.19 (so this means my firmware/software/hboot will be updated as well?)
From here if I stop, I will be S-ON so I can...
option 1) RUU 2.09 and stay on 3.15
option 2) unlock bootloader from HTCDev and stay S-ON
option 3) unlock bootloader from HTCDev and DirtyRacun S-OFF (which actually seems like a very simple process once unlocked)
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The advice is free....the bandwidth, not so much
Just wanted to say thank you all for the support and advice.
I finally walked my friend over gtalk and successfully achieved S-OFF after relock, 1.15 RUU, unlock with HTC DEV, dirtyracun
Then updated full firmwares incrementally to 3.16
Then while trying to load MeanBean, realized we lost TWRP (and possibly root, need to confirm), I can only guess that went away with the RUU? That's not really documented anywhere unless that's a known thing.
TWRP installation via goomanager failed (maybe due to lack of root), I was able to find TWRP v2.3.1 bootloader, installed that and installed MeanBean 3.0.4
I think that makes us up to date, however we will likely install SuperSU via TWRP once we customize and ensure the phone is running smoothly.
Thanks again all!
Super su is included with the ROM
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Ok so i just got the One yesterday and im not really sure that much about it. Im going to root it soon, but i see S-Off and S-On everywhere. What Exactly is S-Off and S-on?Thanks in advance
JDT283 said:
Ok so i just got the One yesterday and im not really sure that much about it. Im going to root it soon, but i see S-Off and S-On everywhere. What Exactly is S-Off and S-on?Thanks in advance
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The S equals "Security." So, S-OFF is "Security Off", meaning you can flash every aspect of your device -- from Radios to Bootloaders (not that I'd recommend doing that). S-ON just means that you can only flash custom recoveries, ROMs, and kernels. If you have S-OFF, you effectively have an unlocked bootloader, just more freedom. S-OFF also allows you to relock your bootloader (and have it say LOCKED), whereas relocking your bootloader on S-ON relocks it to RELOCKED. Hope that answers your questions