If I could install Windows 7 along side Android on this thing, then I'd replace my laptop as my main PC. Is this possible? Or if not, will it be in the future with Windows 8? I can wait a few more months, by then maybe the price will drop some as well ^_^.
No, Windows 7 will never be compatible on an ARM based tablet because it is made for x86/Itanium architecture.
Windows 8: Maybe- depends on the driver release but that is atleast a few months away so no one can really say.
avinash60 said:
No, Windows 7 will never be compatible on an ARM based tablet because it is made for x86/Itanium architecture.
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Not even Itanium on Windows 7, it's x86/x64 only.
Windows 8 will be theoretically compatible but it remains to be seen whether it will actually be possible to install it on the Prime. Don't forget that Windows 8 on ARM won't run existing Windows programs away.
I'd be interested in an Ubuntu or such dual-boot.
can we have more windows threads please?
i mean really? as if the windows 8 threads concerning an OS which won't be out (in it's ARM form) until late next year weren't enough, we get ones about an OS that CLEARLY wont' work on ARM arch.
i don't say it often, but a quick search would have turned up the answer that x86 OS' will never work on ARM arch. ESPECIALLY ones that are not open source to be dismantled by a crazy person to be made to work somehow.
Haloman800 said:
If I could install Windows 7 along side Android on this thing, then I'd replace my laptop as my main PC. Is this possible? Or if not, will it be in the future with Windows 8? I can wait a few more months, by then maybe the price will drop some as well ^_^.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365283&highlight=windows
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1368651&highlight=windows
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1407305&highlight=windows
Since when did the Prime have a ARM processor that's a cheap CPU found in netbooks.
Officially there will never be a Windows OS for Transformer Prime, ASUS already have a tablet on the market for Windows and it's the Eee Slate EP121, and like the other Windows tablets it's big, heavy, and lack multitouch support for it's touchscreen and requires a stylus and it retails for a whopping $1400.
Unofficially anything is possible. Heck you can run Mac OS X on non Apple hardware thanks to the Project OS X team.
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Since when did the Prime have a ARM processor that's a cheap CPU found in netbooks.
Officially there will never be a Windows OS for Transformer Prime, ASUS already have a tablet on the market for Windows and it's the Eee Slate EP121, and like the other Windows tablets it's big, heavy, and lack multitouch support for it's touchscreen and requires a stylus and it retails for a whopping $1400.
Unofficially anything is possible. Heck you can run Mac OS X on non Apple hardware thanks to the Project OS X team.
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Lol are you joking? You are right?!
And no! There won't be ever a Windows 7 copy running on he Prime. Never!
am I joking no. but I'm not sure where ARM gets associate with Prime when it clearly shows in the specs that it has a Nvidia Tegra 3 Quad Core CPU.
My Palm Treo phone has a ARM processor and it's old and slow as ****.
The second part is true, Project OS X is basically a hacked version of Mac OS X that can run on non-Apple PC hardware.
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am I joking no. but I'm not sure where ARM gets associate with Prime when it clearly shows in the specs that it has a Nvidia Tegra 3 Quad Core CPU.
My Palm Treo phone has a ARM processor and it's old and slow as ****.
The second part is true, Project OS X is basically a hacked version of Mac OS X that can run on non-Apple PC hardware.
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Oh wow... I guess you slept the last years...? Maybe get a read on mobile processors... They are all ARM based....
People really shouldn't try to argue about things they have no idea about...
And i know you can run OSX on non apple hardware. That doesn't change the fact that Windows 7 can't run at all on the Prime. Never!
Diamondback2010 said:
Oh wow... I guess you slept the last years...? Maybe get a read on mobile processors... They are all ARM based....
People really shouldn't try to argue about things they have no idea about...
And i know you can run OSX on non apple hardware. That doesn't change the fact that Windows 7 can't run at all on the Prime. Never!
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I'm not arguing. Sounds like you want to though.
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Plus who's to say that there won't be any virtual OS software made for Android that would allow you to install Windows onto it.
there would go that whole never be able to right there. Anything is possible.
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I'm not arguing. Sounds like you want to though.
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Plus who's to say that there won't be any virtual OS software made for Android that would allow you to install Windows onto it.
there would go that whole never be able to right there. Anything is possible.
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Because Windows 7 is made for x86/x64 processor architecture and not ARM.
There will be a extra super special version of Windows 8 written only for ARM processors
This version may run on the Prime. But not Windows 7.
If there was a way of running x86 code on ARM processors, Microsoft wouldn't rewrite Windows parts for the ARM architecture.
Get a read about processors architecture etc.
Diamondback2010 said:
Because Windows 7 is made for x86/x64 processor architecture and not ARM.
There will be a extra super special version of Windows 8 written only for ARM processors
This version may run on the Prime. But not Windows 7.
If there was a way of running x86 code on ARM processors, Microsoft wouldn't rewrite Windows parts for the ARM architecture.
Get a read about processors architecture etc.
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why are you continuing to go on about hardware compatibility when I clearly referred to software as far as anything's possible.
Please explain why the nVidia Tegra 3 cpu wouldn't be able to run Windows 7 in a virtual OS environment?
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why are you continuing to go on about hardware compatibility when I clearly referred to software as far as anything's possible.
Please explain why the nVidia Tegra 3 cpu wouldn't be able to run Windows 7 in a virtual OS environment?
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Because you can't run x86/x64 code on ARM processors... I already said that.
It's the same for x86/x64 code... You can't run x64 code on a x86 processors.
That's why there are different x86 and x64 versions of e.g. Firefox.
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Because you can't run x86/x64 code on ARM processors... I already said that.
It's the same for x86/x64 code... You can't run x64 code on a x86 processors.
That's why there are different x86 and x64 versions of e.g. Firefox.
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yes you can run x86 code on ARM cpus, through emulation software. It can be done on some ARM devices out now.
Go lookup Bosch x86 emulator for ARM.
I would like to see an ARM processor try to emulate x86 architecture. Anyone who's ever tried looking for emulation software knows that emulation is slow as hell. While PCs are faster than both PS3s and Xbox 360s, are there emulators? No. Why? Because you need much more power to translate the architectures to something the processor understands. This is why x86, a large and powerful architecture will never run on ARM properly. Even Bosch's website says so:
1.9.5. Tell me about performance when running Bochs.
Because Bochs emulates every x86 instruction and all the devices in a PC system, it does not reach high emulation speeds.
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Or better, you could try emulation on a Prime. I'm sure you don't mind seeing how slow Tegra 3 can be
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yes you can run x86 code on ARM cpus, through emulation software. It can be done on some ARM devices out now.
Go lookup Bosch x86 emulator for ARM.
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Yea, so show me this thing running on a Tegra 2/3 other modern ARM processor...
I haven't seen something like this on the site.
Apart from that the emulator doesn't seem to be compatible with Win7?
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I would like to see an ARM processor try to emulate x86 architecture. Anyone who's ever tried looking for emulation software knows that emulation is slow as hell. While PCs are faster than both PS3s and Xbox 360s, are there emulators? No. Why? Because you need much more power to translate the architectures to something the processor understands. This is why x86, a large and powerful architecture will never run on ARM properly. Even Bosch's website says so:
Or better, you could try emulation on a Prime. I'm sure you don't mind seeing how slow Tegra 3 can be
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I would mind boging it down lol. Doesn't seem like an easy task. Just wondering because this made me think about it. On Antutu, there is a prime that is oced. Why don't we have that
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That is probably a development Prime from Asus to see how the higher clocks impact performance and battery life, and it seems they feel that 1.3GHz (up to 1.4GHz under certain conditions) is the sweet spot.
pandaball said:
That is probably a development Prime from Asus to see how the higher clocks impact performance and battery life, and it seems they feel that 1.3GHz (up to 1.4GHz under certain conditions) is the sweet spot.
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ook. Thanks for answering that. and sorry OP for going off topic.
try running older versions of OSX (before apple switched to intel chips) on a PC and tell me anything is possible.
if you want to run win7 on your prime, use the remote desktop. it's going to be the only way you'll get there.
As the title suggests, from the specs the device is given. This should be possible. Since the tablet is just now coming out, there are few forums for it. Even the Nvidia forums don't have a section for it, let alone XDA's forum. Which is why this is under modding.
The Nvidia Shield Tablet meets the Windows 8.1 requirements and uses intel chipsets. It's not a matter of if as much as when. Which is my request to the devs. Make the tablet either dual boot windows 8.1 and android or a full install of windows 8.1
Best of luck to you all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJSWe6Ane5A
At 2:39, you get the kernal build number that comes in the stock tablet. I know very little about kernals so I leave that to your discretion.
If anyone has any comments or relevant information to help developers with pushing a windows build into the tablet please feel free speak.
Are there any forums on xda for the Shield Tablet? Its running android, and its most likely rootable.
Sincereless said:
[Update]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJSWe6Ane5A
At 2:39, you get the kernal build number that comes in the stock tablet. I know very little about kernals so I leave that to your discretion.
If anyone has any comments or relevant information to help developers with pushing a windows build into the tablet please feel free speak.
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Anybody try to root this with towelroot?
joshuabg said:
Anybody try to root this with towelroot?
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Yes i just got mine and rooted it with towelroot. works great, got xposed framwork up and running.
Wait wait wait. The Shield Tablet has Intel chipsets? So I can run Desktop mode and say install Steam and play lower end games if this became feasible? I'm almost positive already that Nvidia said that the Tegra K1 has DirectX capabilities, I would LOVE to play games like Halo PC and other lower end titles on this tablet! Especially if someone made drivers that recognized the Shield Controller as an XInput device!
Which is why I started this thread. To see what the devs have to say about this. If there is any chance XDA devs can do this, it will almost certainly change the scope of gaming at home and on the go.
On a side note, there are already videos of the tegra K1 running the dolphin emulator. While previous K1 devices could only run games to a certain extent, over at the Dolphin forums the devs there are already discussing full speed emulation with almost all Gamecube games and some Wii games. For Dolphin it comes down to CPU strength since both consoles only run on 1 core. While the tablet is quad core, the software can't connect to the other 2 cores due to information process paths which leaves 1 core(They managed 2 cores as an option, not sure how) The Dolphin emu needs to atleast 2 times that to run gamecube(485mhz) games and 4 times for the Wii(800 mhz). The Nvidia Tablet is a 2ghz. Which just isn't strong enough to run wii games. So getting Windows ported over is important for overclocking the cpu efficiently to a level Wii games can handle, and pc games a bonus.
Nope, nope, nope.
Hey, guys. I just randomly ran across this thread, and I wanted to let you know that the reason why nobody has ported Windows 8 to the nVidia shield tablet is that it uses an ARM processor. Yes, this processor is made by Intel, but it is an Intel MOBILE processor, not a full x86 architecture processor.
So, although it may take some reading for you to understand the basic incompatibilities here, I will tell you that running Windows 8 on this thing is not possible in any universe. The only Windows OS which will run on an ARM processor is Windows RT. But everyone hates Windows RT, and not a single Windows RT device has been made since 2013.
However, on a happier note, Android 5.0 Lollipop does add support for x86 and 64bit processors. So, a future in which we have dual booting Windows 8 / Android tablets is not unfeasible.
Hey everyone! Just wondering if any one has successfully gotten half life 2 or portal to work on their nexus 9. I think it should work using gltools but everytime I try it always crashes. Shouldnt it work with the tegra k1 processor?
I tried Portal but it crashes after the Valve logo.
The N9 has a different CPU architecture (ARM64) that the NVidia SHIELD which is 32bit.
K1 Trine 2 crashes also. Oh well.
Hi guys,
I have just Raspberry version 1 b+ and comparing kodi to both devices, I find our tablet nexus 9, blazing fast. Really impressed. Raspberry version 1 is so slow opening menus in kodi.
Does anyone has raspberry pi2 (latest version) and how is the speed comparing to nexus 9 browsing through the menus of kodi?
Last question. How can I stream kodi from nexus 9 to TV?
albsat said:
Hi guys,
I have just Raspberry version 1 b+ and comparing kodi to both devices, I find our tablet nexus 9, blazing fast. Really impressed. Raspberry version 1 is so slow opening menus in kodi.
Does anyone has raspberry pi2 (latest version) and how is the speed comparing to nexus 9 browsing through the menus of kodi?
Last question. How can I stream kodi from nexus 9 to TV?
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WTF are you talking about? rpi is a bottom end pile of crap board computer. Nexus 9 is a top of the line TABLET. These are not by any means comparable machines. rpi2 is not substantially different from rpi. Still a piece of crap that is priced way over its value.
doitright said:
WTF are you talking about? rpi is a bottom end pile of crap board computer. Nexus 9 is a top of the line TABLET. These are not by any means comparable machines. rpi2 is not substantially different from rpi. Still a piece of crap that is priced way over its value.
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Come on. Stop beating around the bush and say what you really think!
I do have an Nvidia Shield Tablet with Tegra K1 processor, but I'm probably going to sell it because of all the flaws it has.
I'm planning to get a Nexus 9 instead, since it also got a K1 processor, does anyone know if Doom 3 BFG or the other Shield games like Half Life 2 work on it?
An answer would be appreciated
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To play, you will need a compatible device, and as of right now, that is just the SHIELD box, or a SHIELD Tablet and SHIELD Controller from NVIDIA.
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I don't believe our GPU is compatible.
how to play it on snapdragon