Hey guys,
So I got the g3 back in Aug. And rooted with one of the early methods.
I stopped keeping up to date with updates but now my phones running a little slow so I figured I'd see what updates I should apply or what the best route would be to go.
Currently I am on 4.4.2 build kvt49l.
I do not remember what I used to root but I believe I'm stock Rom without custom recovery and only root.
I'm okay without going custom recovery, unless it's super easy to obtain, I just enjoy having root for a number of reasons.
Thanks for the info guys.
derik123derik123 said:
Hey guys,
So I got the g3 back in Aug. And rooted with one of the early methods.
I stopped keeping up to date with updates but now my phones running a little slow so I figured I'd see what updates I should apply or what the best route would be to go.
Currently I am on 4.4.2 build kvt49l.
I do not remember what I used to root but I believe I'm stock Rom without custom recovery and only root.
I'm okay without going custom recovery, unless it's super easy to obtain, I just enjoy having root for a number of reasons.
Thanks for the info guys.
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If you are on the VS985 (Verizon model), only Stump root works.
But, first off, before doing anything, how many apps have you installed? What is the amount of free memory/storage on your phone? If you have way too many apps installed, that can cause the phone to become sluggish. I would suggest removing any apps you know longer use.
Also, you could boot into recovery and wipe the cache and dalvik. Not a factory data reset which wipes your phone, but just wipe the cache and dalvik cache.
I would do that first before taking the OTAs. If all you have done was root via Stump and have not "bumped" the phone with TWRP, you can go into SuperSU and tell it to maintain root across OTAs. Then, you can take the OTAs as they come in and you'll maintain root.
But, i doubt that will fix your sluggishness with the phone. As I stated, I would check to see how much free storage you have left (both on the internal memory as well as the main memory). Then, wipe dalvik and cache and try that as well.
iBolski said:
If you are on the VS985 (Verizon model), only Stump root works.
But, first off, before doing anything, how many apps have you installed? What is the amount of free memory/storage on your phone? If you have way too many apps installed, that can cause the phone to become sluggish. I would suggest removing any apps you know longer use.
Also, you could boot into recovery and wipe the cache and dalvik. Not a factory data reset which wipes your phone, but just wipe the cache and dalvik cache.
I would do that first before taking the OTAs. If all you have done was root via Stump and have not "bumped" the phone with TWRP, you can go into SuperSU and tell it to maintain root across OTAs. Then, you can take the OTAs as they come in and you'll maintain root.
But, i doubt that will fix your sluggishness with the phone. As I stated, I would check to see how much free storage you have left (both on the internal memory as well as the main memory). Then, wipe dalvik and cache and try that as well.
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I don't believe I have that much installed.
I am having an issue with installing apps all of a sudden. I keep getting an error saying I don't have enough space, but I have plenty...?
My issue is with lag. Especially with the keyboard. I'm using the stock LG keyboard but if I attempt to type quickly it'll lag and cause me to mistype.
I'll try wiping the cache and what not and report back. Thanks for your input.
Edit: so I wiped the cache and the device is still laggy. Would tasker be causing it at all? Thanks again.
derik123derik123 said:
I don't believe I have that much installed.
I am having an issue with installing apps all of a sudden. I keep getting an error saying I don't have enough space, but I have plenty...?
My issue is with lag. Especially with the keyboard. I'm using the stock LG keyboard but if I attempt to type quickly it'll lag and cause me to mistype.
I'll try wiping the cache and what not and report back. Thanks for your input.
Edit: so I wiped the cache and the device is still laggy. Would tasker be causing it at all? Thanks again.
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I have had tasker before and removed it due to it causing lag. I don't know if it still does. I haven't installed it as I have no use for it.
You could try freezing it and see if that fixes it as opposed to uninstalling if you have a lot of settings created. That way, if the lag still persists, you know it wasn't tasker and you could just unfreeze it and not have to worry about setting it all up again from a clean install. Unless, of course, you use something like TiBu to back it up, then you could uninstall it and see.
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I have had tasker before and removed it due to it causing lag. I don't know if it still does. I haven't installed it as I have no use for it.
You could try freezing it and see if that fixes it as opposed to uninstalling if you have a lot of settings created. That way, if the lag still persists, you know it wasn't tasker and you could just unfreeze it and not have to worry about setting it all up again from a clean install. Unless, of course, you use something like TiBu to back it up, then you could uninstall it and see.
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Hey thanks for the reply. I'll try that.
Any input on nit being able to install apps due to insufficient storage? Check out the picture in my other post. I feel like I have enough free space..?
derik123derik123 said:
Hey thanks for the reply. I'll try that.
Any input on nit being able to install apps due to insufficient storage? Check out the picture in my other post. I feel like I have enough free space..?
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The other possible issue could be your cache or dalvik cache partitions, but I see you've already cleared those out, so I'm not sure why else you would be getting this.
Here is a link that has a lot of possible causes and solutions. Try these out and report back because I'm at a loss:
http://www.phonetipsandtricks.com/t...e-error-when-running-low-on-phone-storage-49/
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The other possible issue could be your cache or dalvik cache partitions, but I see you've already cleared those out, so I'm not sure why else you would be getting this.
Here is a link that has a lot of possible causes and solutions. Try these out and report back because I'm at a loss:
http://www.phonetipsandtricks.com/t...e-error-when-running-low-on-phone-storage-49/
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Ended up just getting custom recovery and rom thanks for your help
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I don't believe Ive seen this mentioned anywhere yet, so I figured Id remind those who know, and inform the newbies who don't know.
Ive heard people who have applied various lag fixes complain that their phone slows down over time when opening apps. This "fix" i am about to mention is really easy and can help anyone not just those who have problems with an applied lag fix.
If you open Rom Manager and use Fix Permissions, wait for it to finish, then select Reboot to Recovery, and wipe Cache, and then go to Advanced Settings, and wipe dalvik cache, then reboot normally, your phone will hang at the Galaxy S bootscreen for a few minutes, it might take a while because it is rebuilding the dalvik cache, you should notice things running smoothly again and apps opening quicker.
Hope this helps anyone out there!
Does wiping those 2 cache's screw up installed apps? Where you have to download them all again?
Bronk93 said:
Does wiping those 2 cache's screw up installed apps? Where you have to download them all again?
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No, wiping the caches shouldn't affect your installed apps.
And all the same, if you still worry about it, just run a nandroid backup before you wipe the caches, then if you run into any issues, just restore, or advanced-restore only your data partition.
cheers,
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So not a big deal cause I have replaced my update.zip with the clock work reboot update.zip and can reach clockwork still by "reinstalling packages" but I tried this fix and now can't reboot into recovery straight to clockwork through rom manager cause it says something to the effect of
E: can't reboot cause file /cache/update.zip missing
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Not exact but obviously there was a vital cached update.zip that was used in order to reboot directly into clockwork through rom manager.... Any idea on a fix? Think it would be unwise to just reflash clockwork through rom manager again to recache the file? Would anything else be effected like possibly overwriting my past nand recoveries? Thanks guys/gals for any help on this one.
Pooped from my Samsung Vibrant using XDA app...
Dont mind the skidmarks...
Bump for the safety of reflashing clockwork to replace cache file?
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p()()pypants said:
Bump for the safety of reflashing clockwork to replace cache file?
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Dont mind the skidmarks...
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yes, your missing the update.zip that unzipps itself to run clockwork. So yes flash the update.zip again through rom manager.
I just creates the update.zip file so it will not do any harm.
Awesome I assumed just as much but wanted confirmation first, thank you much
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I've done this, and it worked just fine.
Thanks OP!
it worked perfectly, thanks
speedysilwady said:
I don't believe Ive seen this mentioned anywhere yet, so I figured Id remind those who know, and inform the newbies who don't know.
Ive heard people who have applied various lag fixes complain that their phone slows down over time when opening apps. This "fix" i am about to mention is really easy and can help anyone not just those who have problems with an applied lag fix.
If you open Rom Manager and use Fix Permissions, wait for it to finish, then select Reboot to Recovery, and wipe Cache, and then go to Advanced Settings, and wipe dalvik cache, then reboot normally, your phone will hang at the Galaxy S bootscreen for a few minutes, it might take a while because it is rebuilding the dalvik cache, you should notice things running smoothly again and apps opening quicker.
Hope this helps anyone out there!
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Thank you! Am trying this now and will post any impressions after.
EDIT: Immediately after re-booting, it definitely seems smoother and snappier - thanks again for this. I was wondering if I should do something like this, but didn't know what, because I'd flashed Eugene's Vibrant6 and a lag fix and then restored to my pre-flash nandroid. I thought the phone's performance was suffering after all that, and I definitely found this tip helpful, so really appreciated!
I flashed sharks ed01 and it fcs the apps it opens. They all were restored from my backup root.
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not a whole lot of info for me to work with here, but you probably are trying to restore some system things or something with an incompatible new rom. Likely the only way to fix it is a data wipe and then reinstall whatever applications you need... maybe clearing caches and datas of apps but I doubt it.
A data wipe is usually good anyways because the phone slows down when you have a lot of things installed and if you're anything like me you have a ton of stuff installed that you only used for one specific thing or for beta testing or whatever, and doing a data wipe and then just installing those applications on a need-to-have basis will give you a noticeable speed boost.
... or try a 'fix permissions'
nunyazz said:
... or try a 'fix permissions'
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This should do the trick. 99% sure
Boy I'm not having great luck with my hardware atm. My Nexus 7 has got some serious lag issue, probably needing a factory restore, and now my SGS2 is playing up and looking like it might need the same. I'd appreciate the help before I go to that - not sure where I am on backups, I think this problem has been lingering for a while unnoticed, and its possible my scheduled Titanium task hasn't worked in a while because of this.
So let me run through. I was trying to update a few apps in the app store, and I got 'the package file is invalid' errors over and over. I was a little confused, and suddenly I was getting a flickering alert for 'low on application space' that would come and go.
I went into applications to see what my space was and it was fine, 400mb free. But I noticed that all of the apps were reading as zero size. I tried removing one I knew was big, and the free space adjusted by a real amount, but no change to the sizes in the listing. I went thru and uninstalled a bunch just to be sure. Even after this, I could still not install any apps without getting the invalid message.
I decided to restart and wipe the cache, thinking maybe something had gone wrong there. No change. All the installed apps were working ok, though, no problems running things. So, I decide that something minor has corrupted, and that a reflash of the current firmware would maybe do the job (which is a stock XEU build of ICS). I have 'Mobile Odin' and keep the current firmware file on the SD just in case. I of course want to run a backup first, so I fire up Titanium, which fails to do the backup, with an error about something catching fire trying to 'do calculation'. I begin to figure that something worse has happened by this point.
I decide to go ahead with the reflash using Mobile Odin. It seems to load fine, I tell it to wipe the cache and so on. The flash goes fine, and the phone reboots. I expected it to go through the little optimising applications thing it does, and true enough I see this box load up, saying 'start applications' and the spinning wheel. Then, it abruptly closes, and I get my home panel...
But here's where it goes severely wrong - every app I can think of now crashes, displaying the 'unfortunately XXX has stopped'. Boxes and boxes, for basically every app that in any way runs at startup, every widget, even my Swift Key and Swipe keyboards. Yikes! After clearing the huge backlog of boxes, I start trying to open stuff, and it quickly becomes apparent that no app will work, save for those that are physically part of the firmware (such as Settings, Messages, Phone, Contacts, Memo, Camera). Basically, unless its a stock app, it's just dead. My SD apps show up as if they aren't found, with the little grey SD box. I can't even open the Play Store to try redownloading an app.
I'm going to try, once I'm home from work, reflashing the firmware using desktop Odin. But, failing that, I will need a factory restore it would seem. Basically, I'm looking help either fixing the problem without a factory restore, or a way to back up my data (messages and app data) in case my Titanium Backups are old or broken.
Thanks :/
Edit: When I do a *#1234#, my CSC comes up as 'Unknown'. Would this cause these issues?
Boot into CWM recovery and fix permissions.
unclebob_2000 said:
Boot into CWM recovery and fix permissions.
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I don't have CWM recovery installed. Will it be possible for me to install it with the phone in this state? Any reasons why the permissions will have gone like this?
gyaku_zuki said:
I don't have CWM recovery installed. Will it be possible for me to install it with the phone in this state? Any reasons why the permissions will have gone like this?
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Flash a CF root kernel using desktop Odin, reboot into CWM via hard keys vol+ home and power. Find fix permissions, run it, reboot, hopefully work...
Most apps that aren't granted the right permissions that allow them to fulfil there main task will usually end up in a FC.
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Orkane1989 said:
Flash a CF root kernel using desktop Odin, reboot into CWM via hard keys vol+ home and power. Find fix permissions, run it, reboot, hopefully work...
Most apps that aren't granted the right permissions that allow them to fulfil there main task will usually end up in a FC.
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The phone is already rooted. Can I apply CWM as an update.zip from inside the current recovery?
gyaku_zuki said:
The phone is already rooted. Can I apply CWM as an update.zip from inside the current recovery?
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Unsure. Most likely not. It would be like running 2 kernels at once... just wouldnt work. Wouldn't risk it. Could hard brick the phone.
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First, Post your ROM and kernel details; Goto Settings - About phone, and post everything you see
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Jokesy said:
First, Post your ROM and kernel details; Goto Settings - About phone, and post everything you see
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No problem -
Model N: GT-I9100
Android V: 4.0.3
Baseband V: I9100XXLPS
Kernel V: 3.0.15-I9100XWLP7-CL340913 [email protected] #3
Build N: IML74K.XWLP7
I ask about the update.zip thing as it is a legitimate way to install CWM recovery according to various guides online.
Thanks for the help guys. Appreciate it.
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No problem -
Model N: GT-I9100
Android V: 4.0.3
Baseband V: I9100XXLPS
Kernel V: 3.0.15-I9100XWLP7-CL340913 [email protected] #3
Build N: IML74K.XWLP7
I ask about the update.zip thing as it is a legitimate way to install CWM recovery according to various guides online.
Thanks for the help guys. Appreciate it.
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1. Backup your important data.
2. Uninstall apps you don't use
3. Using a ROOT capable explorer goto /data/app on your phone, delete all .odex files you find there
4. Disable System apps you don't need/use
- Goto Settings - Apps - All - Select the app you want to disable, select FORCE STOP, then DISABLE.
Repeat the step for each app
- Alternatively you can use titanium backup pro to freeze those apps
You can find the list of apps you can disable: here https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...1gdDJRekl4QmkyNmIzUmRvX2h3UDVkQXc&output=html
5. Boot to recovery (the stock recovery)
- clear cache
- reboot phone.
6. If any user / system app gives you force stop warning, then clear the days of that/those app(s) in settings.
You should notice the difference!
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Jokesy said:
1. Backup your important data.
2. Uninstall apps you don't use
3. Using a ROOT capable explorer goto /data/app on your phone, delete all .odex files you find there
4. Disable System apps you don't need/use
- Goto Settings - Apps - All - Select the app you want to disable, select FORCE STOP, then DISABLE.
Repeat the step for each app
- Alternatively you can use titanium backup pro to freeze those apps
You can find the list of apps you can disable: here https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...1gdDJRekl4QmkyNmIzUmRvX2h3UDVkQXc&output=html
5. Boot to recovery (the stock recovery)
- clear cache
- reboot phone.
6. If any user / system app gives you force stop warning, then clear the days of that/those app(s) in settings.
You should notice the difference!
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Thanks for that, but I'm sorry, what? I seem to be missing something - you've answered something that seems to be an entirely different problem! I can't even RUN an explorer let alone grant it root - so I can't reach the ODEXes, which aren't the reason for the FCs anyway.
This 'fix permissions' sounds like a good plan, I just need to know my best method for getting CWM onto the phone given it's state. I think I can use the update.zip method, but I may have to just wait until I can get to a machine capable of running Odin for me, to flash the CF kernel.
gyaku_zuki said:
Thanks for that, but I'm sorry, what? I seem to be missing something - you've answered something that seems to be an entirely different problem! I can't even RUN an explorer let alone grant it root - so I can't reach the ODEXes, which aren't the reason for the FCs anyway.
This 'fix permissions' sounds like a good plan, I just need to know my best method for getting CWM onto the phone given it's state. I think I can use the update.zip method, but I may have to just wait until I can get to a machine capable of running Odin for me, to flash the CF kernel.
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Ok.
Let me tell you some things you need to know
1. Fix permissions only has much effect on system apps, only if their permission is broken
2. Flashing a new Kernel will never fix many FC
3. Have you booted to recovery and wipe cache? If after doing this and your problem still persist, then you might have perform a Factory Data Reset.
4. Flashing a new firmware via Odin will not dramatically stop Force close errors. You will still need a factory reset to fix that.
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Jokesy said:
Ok.
Let me tell you some things you need to know
1. Fix permissions only has much effect on system apps, only if their permission is broken
2. Flashing a new Kernel will never fix many FC
3. Have you booted to recovery and wipe cache? If after doing this and your problem still persist, then you might have perform a Factory Data Reset.
4. Flashing a new firmware via Odin will not dramatically stop Force close errors. You will still need a factory reset to fix that.
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I've tried wiping cache in recovery, yes. The only apps that run are the system ones. I can't explain why permissions may have been broken on the other apps, but it may be the case, so I'd like to try it. And, it was a flash via (Mobile) Odin CAUSED the FCs, so I don't know if that's true. Regardless, I'm heading home now, I can try flashing the CWM and run the fix permissions, and otherwise I need to figure out a backup solution before I factory restore.
I don't mean this wrong, but I'd prefer you don't just throw generic (yet good for general faults) advice if you don't have personal knowledge of the particular problem. It could be misleading.
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I don't mean this wrong, but I'd prefer you don't just throw generic (yet good for general faults) advice if you don't have personal knowledge of the particular problem. It could be misleading.
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You know my aim wasn't to mislead you but to help. I actually missed somethings in your Original post like "Every apps now doesn't work" etc
Because the only apps that run now are the system apps proves that there is something wrong in the /data partition, a location where all user apps, settings etc are stored.
Anyway, it's always very good to try all other means possible before factory reset.
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Jokesy said:
You know my aim wasn't to mislead you but to help. I actually missed somethings in your Original post like "Every apps now doesn't work" etc
Because the only apps that run now are the system apps proves that there is something wrong in the /data partition, a location where all user apps, settings etc are stored.
Anyway, it's always very good to try all other means possible before factory reset.
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Oh, I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to offend you or have a go. I appreciate all the help about to try flashing the rooted CWM kernel, to try the permissions fix. If that doesn't work, I need to figure out some way of doing a backup of sorts, before I do a restore :crying:
UPDATE: After flashing the CF-Kernel to access CWM, I'm getting a message I'm unfamiliar with "The System UIDs are inconsistent" yadda yadda factory reset. I'm currently 'fixing permissions' It looks like it's stalled, but it may just take a while. I have a lot of apps. Anyone understand the UIDs message in my context?
Update 2: Had to factory restore, but was able to restore almost everything with no problems from a CWM nandroid backup. Thanks for the help.
Hello, s2 galllery just become unusable. How ? Well I connected device to the pc, copyed some photos to pc and then deleted some photos of s2 gallery from my computer with shift+delete. after that I disconnect device and guess what? Yes gallery and photo itself either lags alot even though its even less photos in the mobile than before or does not even start or says gallery is not respoding. Restarted device - did not help. deleted gallery data(cache) from applications section also did not help. I hope to find an answer without doing a factory reset.
for now it doesnt even start - says loading for ever
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Hello, s2 galllery just become unusable. How ? Well I connected device to the pc, copyed some photos to pc and then deleted some photos of s2 gallery from my computer with shift+delete. after that I disconnect device and guess what? Yes gallery and photo itself either lags alot even though its even less photos in the mobile than before or does not even start or says gallery is not respoding. Restarted device - did not help. deleted gallery data(cache) from applications section also did not help. I hope to find an answer without doing a factory reset.
for now it doesnt even start - says loading for ever
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What ROM are you on again?
DZG said:
Hello, s2 galllery just become unusable. How ? Well I connected device to the pc, copyed some photos to pc and then deleted some photos of s2 gallery from my computer with shift+delete. after that I disconnect device and guess what? Yes gallery and photo itself either lags alot even though its even less photos in the mobile than before or does not even start or says gallery is not respoding. Restarted device - did not help. deleted gallery data(cache) from applications section also did not help. I hope to find an answer without doing a factory reset.
for now it doesnt even start - says loading for ever
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Did you do a safe disconnect of device?
Also, why does doing factory reset bother you? All you need to do is backup apps/appdata via Titanium Backup Pro, and SMS via SMS Backup, factory reset and restore backups and contacts will sync via google account. Its no big deal your not going to lose anything.
Also, why on earth call this a "major bug" when its completely obvious that it isnt otherwise it would be very common and well known about already. Plus you dont even bother to mention what ROM you're using, did you even check the roms thread? Or if stock did you contact Samsung?
I don't like factory resets either, I actually avoid them.
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I don't like factory resets either, I actually avoid them.
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Why?
TheATHEiST said:
Why?
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Because I'm able to, and I don't have to. Everything always works fine. It's crazy.
gastonw said:
Because I'm able to, and I don't have to. Everything always works fine. It's crazy.
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Well if everything works fine, Its not that your "avoiding it" its simply that you "dont need" to use it. So your original comment makes no sense.
Only time you need to wipe data is when moving to a new rom base/type, If you face issues or if you just want to do a clean install.
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Well if everything works fine, Its not that your "avoiding it" its simply that you "dont need" to use it. So your original comment makes no sense.
Only time you need to wipe data is when moving to a new rom base/type, If you face issues or if you just want to do a clean install.
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Avoiding it by not messing up with it. I could choose to go and play with things that will require a factory reset. I think I made that pretty clear, you just have to read it, think about it and read it again.
I'm good with semantics & semiotics, didn't I tell you that?
BTW, I flash with MO, it does the wipping itself.
Be good now.
gastonw said:
Avoiding it by not messing up with it. I could choose to go and play with things that will require a factory reset. I think I made that pretty clear, you just have to read it, think about it and read it again.
I'm good with semantics & semiotics, didn't I tell you that?
BTW, I flash with MO, it does the wipping itself.
Be good now.
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And at what point did you make it "pretty clear" ?
Also what has Mobile Odin got to do with the price of fish? The wipe in question is in general if you have issues with a particular rom resulting in attempting to clear it by clearing non-default data/settings, Not about when wiping before/after first rom flash which is mostly for custom roms via CWM when its strongly advised unless moving up version of same rom. Since it ounds like you only use stock rom then you will very rarely come across teh need to use wipe.
Either way its not that your "avoiding" it, its simply that you have no "need" to use wipe in your circumstances because its not necessary.
Wiping data/factory reset is no big deal either way as the most important stuff can very easily be backed up and restored so if you have issues with system and cant resolve it then just backup everything and do wipe (and/or clean install of rom) and restore it back, simple.
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And at what point did you make it "pretty clear" ?
Also what has Mobile Odin got to do with the price of fish? The wipe in question is in general if you have issues with a particular rom resulting in attempting to clear it by clearing non-default data/settings, Not about when wiping before/after first rom flash which is mostly for custom roms via CWM when its strongly advised unless moving up version of same rom. Since it ounds like you only use stock rom then you will very rarely come across teh need to use wipe.
Either way its not that your "avoiding" it, its simply that you have no "need" to use wipe in your circumstances because its not necessary.
Wiping data/factory reset is no big deal either way as the most important stuff can very easily be backed up and restored so if you have issues with system and cant resolve it then just backup everything and do wipe (and/or clean install of rom) and restore it back, simple.
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Second quote TheATHEiST
Obviously you are talking to somebody who is very inexperienced with Android.
You can always download gallery apps from the play store. This would be along your lines of something you can do to fix it.
Also this is not a major bug!! Very very very minor at best!
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And at what point did you make it "pretty clear" ?
Also what has Mobile Odin got to do with the price of fish? The wipe in question is in general if you have issues with a particular rom resulting in attempting to clear it by clearing non-default data/settings, Not about when wiping before/after first rom flash which is mostly for custom roms via CWM when its strongly advised unless moving up version of same rom. Since it ounds like you only use stock rom then you will very rarely come across teh need to use wipe.
Either way its not that your "avoiding" it, its simply that you have no "need" to use wipe in your circumstances because its not necessary.
Wiping data/factory reset is no big deal either way as the most important stuff can very easily be backed up and restored so if you have issues with system and cant resolve it then just backup everything and do wipe (and/or clean install of rom) and restore it back, simple.
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Exactly. See? now you got it.
I just do not flash custom ROMs.
Wasn't so hard, was it? It' simple; you said it yourself.
TheATHEiST said:
Dude, your talking utter crap. At no point did you "make it clear" (as you claimed) you was only flashing stock roms.
I'm ending this conversation now because you're starting to get annoying.
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So elocuent.
And don't worry, I always knew you couldn't see my point. Everyone else did.
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Alright, I hope I have this in the right place. I just recently flashed the TerraSilent Kernel for the Galaxy Player 4.0 US version. The Flash went fine, but my device was running extremely slowly. A re-flash didn't solve it either. I figured that wiping the cache partition might solve the problem - I decided to do this before running a backup, since no important data is stored in the cache (...right?), and since I was worried that backing up while I had this problem could make things worse - so I went ahead into CWM and did just that. Then, it reboots, and I nearly get a heart attack. The stock wallpaper is back, it's using the default launcher again (I had LauncherPro installed), and pretty much only system apps work, all the others have an icon with an SD card on it, and when clicked on, it says something like "application not installed". I did some searching, and it seemed like a reboot might help (although I didn't find anyone with a problem like mine anywhere). The reboot didn't do anything, so now I have it shut down, so that nothing can happen. The odd thing is, it doesn't seem to me like the system messed up and did a full wipe instead, either, because a couple of things I have are still there - for example, some of my bookmarks I made on the homescreen while still using the default launcher are still there. I'm really confused because I have wiped the cache partition before, when I was still on an unmodified stock kernel, and everything stayed the same, the way I thought it was supposed to. And now this happens. What do I do now? I exported my absolute most important data (Astrid Tasks and Calendar) before I installed TerraSilent (but I obviously wasn't able to do a full backup because I wasn't rooted, I figured installing TerraSilent would root it), so my absolute most important data is on my computer. I also did a simple file backup of the internal USB storage and external SD card to another computer before flashing TerraSilent. However, there is still a good deal of data still need, and a lot of data that would just be a pain in the rear to recreate, not to mention my (valuable to me) game data. What did I do wrong - or did something in the system mess up? And - what do I do to get back to where I was before?
It happened to me when I was on gingerbread with terrasilent. It's a known issue with this kernel. In fact, you didn't wipe the data, but the recovery contain a bug wich format the data as soon as you do an operation wich mount the data partition(I think it's this but I can't remind) but it doesn't wipe the system or anythin else, so the icon, setting and everything else stay there but without anything attach to them. I don't remind what was causing it, I only stopped using cwm with this kernel unless I wanted to flash something or to wipe everything. Sorry but I can't help you more as I don't remind everything, it's been a while since I've been on gingerbread.
ti-pich said:
It happened to me when I was on gingerbread with terrasilent. It's a known issue with this kernel. In fact, you didn't wipe the data, but the recovery contain a bug wich format the data as soon as you do an operation wich mount the data partition(I think it's this but I can't remind) but it doesn't wipe the system or anythin else, so the icon, setting and everything else stay there but without anything attach to them. I don't remind what was causing it, I only stopped using cwm with this kernel unless I wanted to flash something or to wipe everything. Sorry but I can't help you more as I don't remind everything, it's been a while since I've been on gingerbread.
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Wasn't that problem solved with a later version of the kernel though?
And, assuming that's what happened (what you describe sounds pretty much like what happened to me), would that mean that the only way to try and get it back would be by trying to recover the formatted data?
trainman261 said:
Wasn't that problem solved with a later version of the kernel though?
And, assuming that's what happened (what you describe sounds pretty much like what happened to me), would that mean that the only way to try and get it back would be by trying to recover the formatted data?
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It was said to be resolved, but it happened to some peoples even thought. Maybe you can recover some of your data with your computer and some tools that let you get the erased data, but I can't guarantee the integrity of your data and you would need to replace every bit of data that was there before to get it running nicely. The easiest way would be to try to recover some of your important data, put it on your computer then wipe your player and start from scratch (wipe data/factory reset) and reinstall your apps. Then put back the save, or setting or files that you got back in your apps. Hope this help, I'm not a proffessional with data recovering or where to put it back after you got it, maybe someone else could further help you with this.
And the conclusion...
ti-pich said:
It was said to be resolved, but it happened to some peoples even thought. Maybe you can recover some of your data with your computer and some tools that let you get the erased data, but I can't guarantee the integrity of your data and you would need to replace every bit of data that was there before to get it running nicely. The easiest way would be to try to recover some of your important data, put it on your computer then wipe your player and start from scratch (wipe data/factory reset) and reinstall your apps. Then put back the save, or setting or files that you got back in your apps. Hope this help, I'm not a proffessional with data recovering or where to put it back after you got it, maybe someone else could further help you with this.
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OK, my reply is late, but thanks for your help. I managed to copy the partition with all the deleted contents over to the computer, and I'll have to study the contents some other time, because I've spent about 24+ hours on this problem in total, and need my device for more important purposes - those for which the data I managed to copy before the custom kernel and everything else. For those of you who have a similar issue, this is how I managed to save (or that is I am 95% sure this will have saved at least some, as I said I haven't studied it yet) what I hope is a good chunk of my data.
Have you tried flashing a different kernel? Terrasilent also gave me some weird in that after a few days my device would boot into recovery by itself then wipe all my data in that only my system apps would remain. So it's a little different than what's happened to you. I ended up using klin's R3 kernel or Steven's kernel that fixed the issue.
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Have you tried flashing a different kernel? Terrasilent also gave me some weird in that after a few days my device would boot into recovery by itself then wipe all my data in that only my system apps would remain. So it's a little different than what's happened to you. I ended up using klin's R3 kernel or Steven's kernel that fixed the issue.
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I've got huge issue with steve's kernel. You can get into recovery, but once you booted in it will simply bootloop. Then you have to flash back with odin. So if you go with steve's kernel, don't boot into recovery. As for klin's kernel, I've never tried it, and will probably never as we have some really nice jellybean rom that I recommend you.
I never got that issue with steve's kernel.
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Have you tried flashing a different kernel? Terrasilent also gave me some weird in that after a few days my device would boot into recovery by itself then wipe all my data in that only my system apps would remain. So it's a little different than what's happened to you. I ended up using klin's R3 kernel or Steven's kernel that fixed the issue.
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Actually, with my problem, my system apps did remain, so it's almost the same problem, only my device didn't boot into recovery on its own (seriously, it booted into recovery on its own and wiped the data? ). I only installed the terrasilent kernel to be able to upgrade to JB, so I'm now on JB, running into different problem (the wrong settings are being backed up from google backup, they're restoring from my galaxy mini 2), but thanks anyway. I am really not having any luck at all with this whole update . But ti-pich, I agree with you, that JB rom is awesome
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Actually, with my problem, my system apps did remain, so it's almost the same problem, only my device didn't boot into recovery on its own (seriously, it booted into recovery on its own and wiped the data? ). I only installed the terrasilent kernel to be able to upgrade to JB, so I'm now on JB, running into different problem (the wrong settings are being backed up from google backup, they're restoring from my galaxy mini 2), but thanks anyway. I am really not having any luck at all with this whole update . But ti-pich, I agree with you, that JB rom is awesome
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Yes it did, after 1 week. I was like ???. I reflashed it again and it did the same exact thing, and it happened to me while I was at my college too.
I also had that same issue where it was restoring from the wrong device. I just had to reflash the rom, and install stuff manually because it was making my device horribly slow.
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Yes it did, after 1 week. I was like ???. I reflashed it again and it did the same exact thing, and it happened to me while I was at my college too.
I also had that same issue where it was restoring from the wrong device. I just had to reflash the rom, and install stuff manually because it was making my device horribly slow.
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Wow that is some scary stuff, now I know why every kernel/ROM/mod has a disclaimer at the beginning ... I'm glad I'm off that now and on a stable JB build now. I found a way to have it restore at least some of the stuff from when it was on gingerbread (mostly apps and appdata, no WiFi passwords or other settings - at least I'm pretty sure, I'm still working on getting all the stuff up and running) - go into a terminal, and type
Code:
bmgr list sets
It will probably have two different sets, one for when it was on GB and one for JB - or that is, if you had the problem, there will probably be a third set for a different device (maybe more). Then, choose the one you want to restore from, and type
Code:
bmgr restore xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
and replace xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with the apropriate ID from the command before. I'm having to type it several times in order to get it to work - I type it once, it restores some apps, then stops, I type it again, and it restores some more - but I'm hoping it gets as much possible onto the JB build. I guess this won't help you much, I've seen you saying on the ICS and JB threads that you've upgraded a while ago, but I guess if someone else comes along with the same problem, I hope it will help
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Wow that is some scary stuff, now I know why every kernel/ROM/mod has a disclaimer at the beginning ... I'm glad I'm off that now and on a stable JB build now. I found a way to have it restore at least some of the stuff from when it was on gingerbread (mostly apps and appdata, no WiFi passwords or other settings - at least I'm pretty sure, I'm still working on getting all the stuff up and running) - go into a terminal, and type
Code:
bmgr list sets
It will probably have two different sets, one for when it was on GB and one for JB - or that is, if you had the problem, there will probably be a third set for a different device (maybe more). Then, choose the one you want to restore from, and type
Code:
bmgr restore xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
and replace xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with the apropriate ID from the command before. I'm having to type it several times in order to get it to work - I type it once, it restores some apps, then stops, I type it again, and it restores some more - but I'm hoping it gets as much possible onto the JB build. I guess this won't help you much, I've seen you saying on the ICS and JB threads that you've upgraded a while ago, but I guess if someone else comes along with the same problem, I hope it will help
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hmmm. I'm about to try Terrasilent with my YP-G1 (US version) running 2.3.6. This is giving me second thoughts. Does this kernel still cause issues with SGP 4.0s running GB 2.3.6?? Maybe I should try the old Steves Kernel? I just want to use voodoo sound - thats really the only reason I want to root and get these kernels.