Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
If you realy want to delete touch wiz, you'll have to root your phone otherwise you can't get rid of touch wiz, however you can run a different launcher and having touch wiz on your phone.
Hi Viletung. In WebOS, it takes me about 30 seconds to root the phone.
Yet that retains all the phone settings unchanged, while allowing me to install packages, manipulate data, etc. Is it the same thing with SGS2?
I guess my question is: is it recommended to root the phone? I'm curious if most of Android users root their phone. I know I rooted my Palm Pre/Pre2 phones 5min after I got them. I read on the Internet that certain ROM's are built on stock Gingerbread (without TouchWiz), allowing the phone to save on battery and run much smoother with less used resources. Obviously, if you install a new ROM it will void the warranty.
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
Hello!
I've installed Lite'ning rom 1.5, which has root access. And to flash it takes about one minute!
When I got this phone, I knew it was possible to root my phone, but I was scared that I would screw something up and break the device.
Now, it's about one month after I got this phone and I must say after rooting the device, deleting some standard Samsung **** (Social Hubs etc..), my SGSII isn't draining battery as it used to do before I deleted some stuff. (Including TouchWiz)
But I have also a JIG, to reset the custom kernel counter, just incase I need my warranty back.
So my final conclusion is; I can't life without root! I like to edit the system icons (battery-, wifi icon and much more).
If you have any questions, I'll try to help you
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
Most dont root but most are not on XDA and dont know anything bar stock . I would guess most XDA users root .
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
To a certain extent its been a learning curve for the devs as SGS 2 is different to SGS1 .Expect even more development as the days go by .
jje
Thanks a lot guys for the info.
prodygee said:
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
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Thanks for the info. I want to have the latest version of Android, I don't really care about Gingerbread. How do updates work on Android (i.e. updating to Ice Cream Sandwich eventually)? On WebOS, updates are done automatically from your carrier or Palm/HP (if you had an unlocked phone like myself). Even if I rooted my phone, I would be able to update the phone firmware with a simple download and retain the rooted aspect of the phone.
About rooting, what did you used? I'm looking at Odin and SuperOneClick... is there something better/safer? One more time, thank you.
Official updates via Kies over PC only .
Rooting is usually lost on update .
Rooting via Chainfire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
jje
yqed said:
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock.
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Why don't you use it for a least a few seconds before ditching it, there's no aosp gingerbread anyway so you're stuck with it until cm7 comes along.
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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That's correct, and is one of the main reasons people root their Androids so that when a new version comes out we can download it straight away and don't have to wait for the carrier to officially release it, which usually takes a lot longer than it does for the devs here to put something together. E.g. there are a few ROMs already in the dev forum based on 2.3.4, but there is not yet any official update.
Thanks guys much appreciated. I will probably have more questions, once I have the phone on hand.
yqed said:
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Android phones get new updates over the air when available, just like web os. Only Samsung does their own thing which is different on the sgs2 than on normal android devices. .
Which is, providing updates through an unnecessary software suite called KIES. You won't see an update available message on your phone.
yqed said:
Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
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Just install a launcher fromthe Android Store. There's plenty of good ones like LauncherPro, GX Launcher, 7 launcher. Their all relatively good and fully functional.
OK, I got the phone (16GB model) today from FutureShop and played with it a bit. It is a great phone indeed...
Phone Info (might be useful for devs)
Network: Bell Canada
Model: GT-I9100M
Android Version: 2.3.3
Baseband Version: I9100MUGKG2
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100MUGKG2-CL371789 [email protected] #2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.UGKG2
Now, on with the usual:
Bell bundled the phone with several crap apps like Self Serve, TeleNav GPS (how stupid is that on an Android), Remote PVR, etc.
I will follow your advice and use the phone for now as is, without any fancy stuff done to it (like a new ROM). I would like to get rid of the Bell proprietary apps (physical delete), let me know if is possible. I guess if the phone is rooted it should be easy, the trick is to know how to delete the apps from the phone.
Another question: How do I install the Samsung drivers, without installing the blotted KIES?
I looked for a clean package with SGS2 drivers only but I could not find anything... All I want is to go to Device Manager and point a directory.
I must admit that Android is a totally new experience, coming from WebOS. I'm pretty much lost, heh. I know I sound like a noob, so please forgive me if I ask some simple questions that I can get the answer with a search or just by reading the phone instructions (haven't had the time to read the documentation).
I own a Fire HDX 7 with FW 13.3.2.7. I've also been away for a about a month and have recently been looking through numerous posts around here since then but haven't found a newer answer. Is it still not possible rollback and unlock the bootloader and install a custom rom like CyanogenMod, or am I only still limited to only safe-strap and Nexus?
If it's still not possible, what is the reason that 3.2.6 can be downgraded, what is the difference between .6 and .7/8 that makes this not viable.
If anyone has an idea of how to make it work I am willing to try with my device, I'm just not sure what the community needs to be able to make this change work.
Lastly, if I sent in my Fire HDX for a replacement, does anyone know if the replacement will come with 4.5 or a lower 13.x.x.x version? I just can't stand the lack of OTG support, only a 16GB HD, and would love to music/games on USB stick or use a gamepad.
Thanks in advance.
Sorry but I still don't think OTG support is available yet be even with the given roms right now. And the new one may be a long shot to have lower firmware. May have more luck asking for a downgrade like some have said they have done.
You can't downgrade from 3.2.7/3.2.8. Either via hack or request to Amazon. At present your options are limited to 1) rooting, disabling OTA and living with native ROM + sideloaded Gapps; or 2) installing Safestrap and the Nexus ROM described elsewhere. TWRP is not an option with 3.2.7 which rules out CM11 and other ROMs...at least for now. OTG support is not available as it has been disabled at the HW level (as I understand it). If you need that look for another device.
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Sorry but I still don't think OTG support is available yet be even with the given roms right now. And the new one may be a long shot to have lower firmware. May have more luck asking for a downgrade like some have said they have done.
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Thanks for the reply, I already got downgraded from 4.5 to 13.3.2.7, but sadly you can't rollback 3.2.7 to a version that the bootloader is unlockable. And since Amazon has already rolled it back once the fuse has been blown, and from my understanding they can't downgrade it any further once they blow the fuse.
I am thinking of just trying to get them to send me a replacement and hope it comes with an un-upgraded version. Has anyone gotten a replacement recently and know what version they will ship it with?
From what I've read around the reason we aren't able to roll back 13.3.2.7 is because the .bin (?) deletes itself and no ones been able to capture it? I have Linux running on my kindle also, so if someone who knows more about the OS than me wants to help me to to capture the file via linux running inside the FireOS in a 'man in the middle' type setup let me know what needs to be done.
I'm willing to help, unless most of the devs have moved on away from this device.
Edit: Just saw your reply Davey126, thanks for clearing up a couple of my questions, my offer to still help finding a 3.2.7 workaround still stands though.
I got my Mega 6.3" (SGH-I527M) and I have a few questions:
I don't want to lose "any" functionality or performance that the stock Android 4.2.2 or 4.4.2 out of box provides me with. Even useful features of TouchWiz like multi-windows and etc. are good and I want to keep them. After all, I think this device will not receive any more love and update neither from Samsung nor XDAdevs, right?
I just need to have root access. Now with this mentioned, is there any way of rooting it without tripping Knox? I'm asking this because I'll like to be able to go back to stock ROM if I want to.
Saying this, what ROM is your favorite one, guys or gals?
I am thinking about rooting my nvidia SHIELD tablet and i had a few questions about rooting. I've never done it so I won't understand any fancy terms you guys might know.
1. When I root it can I update the software at the release date. (ex. say I have 4.4 kitkat and I was rooted. lolipop comes out. Can I upgrade the day it comes out or do I need to wait for a root version or something?)
That's all for now THANKS GUYS!
You will not be able to use googles default update mechanism. Depending on the rom you have to update manually...
AppSimpel said:
You will not be able to use googles default update mechanism. Depending on the rom you have to update manually...
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Oh so what exactly is a ROM? Is CyanogenOS a ROM or am I incorrect?
I'm wanting to upgrade my Gigaset QV830 to at least Lollipop, currently the highest it seems to want to go on it's own is Jellybean.
I've never even rooted something before so I'm not entirely sure what I'd need to do in order to work any of this but I'm wondering if it's currently possible to use a ROM image to upgrade it to Lollipop?
It has a built-in ROM applying software but when I try to update the system with Lollipop ROMs for various phones it says it's installing but just ends up restarting it with no changes.
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I'm wanting to upgrade my Gigaset QV830 to at least Lollipop, currently the highest it seems to want to go on it's own is Jellybean.
I've never even rooted something before so I'm not entirely sure what I'd need to do in order to work any of this but I'm wondering if it's currently possible to use a ROM image to upgrade it to Lollipop?
It has a built-in ROM applying software but when I try to update the system with Lollipop ROMs for various phones it says it's installing but just ends up restarting it with no changes.
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Did you ever manage to figure it out? I'm wanting to do this too with my QV830 and have no rooting experience. I suspect the lack of updates is because Gigaset stopped supporting the tablet a while ago.
Can not update my tablet