Hello,
Anyone can tell me if the TrueSmart works correctly when touchscreen is wet or damp by rain and water one day of bad weather practicing outdoors sports?
The wet screen responds correctly or perform random movements making it impossible to use?
And also know if the Touchscreen can be used with gloves or not?
Thanks in advance.
Most screens go a little wacky when there is water on them. I personally haven't tested it while wet, and you'll be hard pressed to find people who have because it is NOT water proof. Be careful with it.
They make gloves that are use able with touchscreens. But generally gloves don't work with them.
All capacitive screens have issues with water. There's a chance this will work with (thin) gloves, as the touch is very sensitive. Surgical gloves work on my other phones (haven't received watch yet).
Touch Screen is not usable when exercising. Gloves, wet, size etc.
The TS has a really sensitive screen, so it goes crazy when wet, Dry gloves are OK, even typing is possible (with Minuum).
However, there are apps that works well with HW buttons.
See my mod and IpBike setup:
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Wow. Just noticed something really odd with the keyboard/screen, but then it could be my phone!
If put your phone on a flat surface (ie table) - try type some letters on the right/left/bottom edge - i find it not as responsive as if you typed in the middle part of the screen. But if you hold the phone in your hands, its perfectly fine!
Anyone else getting that weird problem?
Yep
Noticed the problem to.
I'm guessing there is some screen sensitivity changes when it knows its flat on a surface.
I guess its another on the list of things to fix when the release a new build (or some devs release soem cooked ROMs).
I wonder if this is related to the capacitive nature of the touchscreen? I can replicate the effect if the phone is flat on the surface and I'm only touching it with my typing finger. However, if I rest another finger on the device, or hold it lightly by the edges (still sitting flat on the surface) it works fine.
If this is the case, I doubt any rom will be able to fix it since it is likely to be the capacitive touch screen technology and not a software "fault" per se.
Regards,
Dave
I have seen this too. I wondered if it was a perspective thing - are you pressing the right part of the screen?
are you pressing the right part of the screen?
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Oh yeah, looks like I am pressing the right part. It just have to be more firmer pressing those edge buttons. It doesn't matter which way the keyboard layout is.
Anyway, thanks to everyone confirming that you got the same problem. I would have thought it was hardware related, but it could be software related I suppose. Perhaps whatever software is trying to rotate the keyboard is having a hard time to work out what direction to show the keyboard is causing that weird problem
Try holding the phone between thumb and forefinger whilst it is on a flat surface and then typing. If I do this, I have no issues, but the second I remove my fingers, I then get the lack of response for the keys on the bottom row of the device.
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Dave
mines the same may be to avoid key presses in your pocket?
I have the same problem too. It isn't a problem with all capacitive screens as the iphone never used to do this (l know, I know)
So far I've found no solution, let's hope it gets a quick fix
wow, and I thought it was only me, when I put the phone on the desk, and try use my fingers it becomes really unresponsive but when I'v got it in my hand and I'm using my thumb its all fine, hmmm really weird
it's not really a fault, but more of the nature of the capacitive screen and/or software. In comparison with the iPhone, the iPhone's capacitive screen lets you type/navigate with the phone lying on a flat surface. I find that the Hero's screen requires you to apply a tiny bit more pressure and more surface-area of your finger/thumb, for it to respond. I hope HTC somehow tweak the software for this to be more responsive with less pressure/surface-area contact required so it is usable on a flat surface - don't always want to be picking my phone up to use it at work.
i confrim, using hero without touch the metal edge result in less responsivity and difficult on multitouch operation
hope new firmware can solve this, too many errors using it like a normal keyboard on a table!
Noticed the same problem when using the Hero in my In Car Holder. Makes data input into CoPilot very difficult indeed.
A couple of observations...
I actually have mine in one of those Silicon Covers - the new style 'Gel' ones (work really well and looks good too, unlike old Silicon ones). So it's not actually about having contact with metal as such.
Problem does not occure when plugged into USB.
Now this bit could just be perception rather than reality, but I tried typing while flat (USB disconnected) when touching the coated surface around the trackball and it did not seem to improve things. Trying to do the same while touching the metal area around the speaker grill did seem to improve things. You guys observing similar ?
Anyway, I'm hoping that when I have my car charger, it will fix my CoPilot problem since this should be the same as having the USB plugged in.
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Ok, probably not. There's gotta be a perfectly valid explanation, but I just noticed this:
When I open Albums on my Hero and look at a single photograph, I can zoom in and out by pinching. Same goes for web pages. We all know this.
But the thing is: if I put my phone down on the table and try to pinch with just one hand (thumb+index finger), it doesn't work!
I only need to touch the phone with one finger on my left hand and it starts working. I have to touch the back or the frame. The chin doesn't react.
I tried it on an iPhone and it works with only one hand. It must be some conductivity issue and the Hero simply has a touch screen that works differently from iPhones.
It isn't really a problem for me: I can hold the phone in both hands while pinching. I just found it slightly interesting...
Yeah I have noticed that as well. Although if you try to calibrate using the g-sensor calibration tool it sometime fixes the issue...
Clue is in the technology? Capacitative touch screen....hit the physics books guys
A good capacitive screen doesn't require the user to complete a circuit with the phone using another hand to hold it, or by touching the bezel with a finger. The problem is either in the circuitry driving the touchscreen or possibly with the algorithms used to establish finger gestures and position.
It's even feasible that the metal bezel interferes with the electrostatic field introduced when your finger is in proximity with the screen. This would explain why the sensitivity is reduced around the edges of the screen.
Spose you need to form a complete circuit for it to work. Interesting point though, I didn't know that capacitive screens needed a second 'plate' to work (i.e. more than just the screen alone).
Makes sense though if you think about it.
Q.I indeed
jayjay said:
Ok, probably not. There's gotta be a perfectly valid explanation, but I just noticed this:
When I open Albums on my Hero and look at a single photograph, I can zoom in and out by pinching. Same goes for web pages. We all know this.
But the thing is: if I put my phone down on the table and try to pinch with just one hand (thumb+index finger), it doesn't work!
I only need to touch the phone with one finger on my left hand and it starts working. I have to touch the back or the frame. The chin doesn't react.
I tried it on an iPhone and it works with only one hand. It must be some conductivity issue and the Hero simply has a touch screen that works differently from iPhones.
It isn't really a problem for me: I can hold the phone in both hands while pinching. I just found it slightly interesting...
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The metal bezel actually acts like a ground point between the capacitive circuitry and your finger. When you are touching at the very edges of the capacitive area there simply isn't enough room to get a good grounding point so the driver/controller gets a hard time of locating what points are actually grounded. The bezel helps in this regard.
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A good capacitive screen doesn't require the user to complete a circuit with the phone using another hand to hold it, or by touching the bezel with a finger. The problem is either in the circuitry driving the touchscreen or possibly with the algorithms used to establish finger gestures and position.
It's even feasible that the metal bezel interferes with the electrostatic field introduced when your finger is in proximity with the screen. This would explain why the sensitivity is reduced around the edges of the screen.
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...perhaps not then lol
Yeah, well I hate to be the one to ask, but why does it work on the iPhone then? I realize it's a grounding / closed circuit issue, but if another similar phone can do it, then there's obviously a way around it.
And another question: Why doesn't pinching work, but normal one-fingered touching does?
Only place where I could see this becoming a problem is when you dock your device to some plastic holder in a car and want to pinch to zoom in some navigator software. Letting go of the steering wheel to use two hands on your phone isn't necessarily the safest thing in the world. One would assume though, that the interface in any navigator software wouldn't require complex gestures while operating it...
i confrim, using hero without touch the metal edge result in less responsivity and difficult on multitouch operation
hope new firmware can solve this, too many errors using it like a normal keyboard on a table!
Hi folks,
I have a problem with the screen of my Active when wet (eg. under shower). When water splashes on the screen (even small drops) my screen goes like crazy. It acts like I'm touching the screen with every single splash of the water drops. (It does this when screen is unlocked of course). It also makes it impossible to control with finger when drops are splashing. I started to think that wet finger control is a sort of scam.
I've imagined listening to music and be able to use the phone while in shower before I purchase this rugged phone. However I see it impossible now.
Is it some sort of a mulfunction? or it is supposed to behave that way. How does yours behave?
BTW I have the screen protector on that came affixed with the phone.
Thanks!
It is my understanding that the nature of the screen itself is such that working with water on the screen is not efficent. The reason why is that a capacitive screen acts by charging the screen with electricity and then monitoring the change in this charge as you touch it.
Water, just as your fingers, can absorb the electric charge on the screen and the screen would detect that as a touch. Therefor with some or much water on the screen it would be rendered unuseful (as the water would make the phone detect false input, as long as its on the screen).
There is however the possibility that this is not the case, but if so I am not aware of this. Possibly you could try some alternatives to controling your phone in such conditions when the screen is not useable.
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Armeddy said:
It is my understanding that the nature of the screen itself is such that working with water on the screen is not efficent. The reason why is that a capacitive screen acts by charging the screen with electricity and then monitoring the change in this charge as you touch it.
Water, just as your fingers, can absorb the electric charge on the screen and the screen would detect that as a touch. Therefor with some or much water on the screen it would be rendered unuseful (as the water would make the phone detect false input, as long as its on the screen).
There is however the possibility that this is not the case, but if so I am not aware of this. Possibly you could try some alternatives to controling your phone in such conditions when the screen is not useable.
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If that is the case what SE referring to as "Wet finger tracking" is? They must have done something so that the water on the screen does not effect (at least that much) the control.
After all St17i is a rugged and waterproof phone. Or at least I bought it because it is.....
Dude I'm sure it is waterproof.
Don't u c a difference between waterproof and frigging underwater capabilities... I say u ask too much maybe I dnt ask enuff
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It is my opinion that there is a noticeable difference from using your fingers on the screen when they are wet from using your phone while in the shower.
Even so, I don't really find it as a very big downfall. The reason I'd buy that phone is not it's ability to resist water damage as the possibility of throwing it at people without it breaking easily. But that is just me perhaps..
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Hello everyone,
Seems like LG g2 screen is not responding to nails. Or I'm the only one with defective unit ? Google doesn't answer this question.
ALso i have noticed that screen is not as sensitive as my previous samsung galaxies... i can always touch the screen very gently so it won't respond. It is a not too big deal for me, but it's interesting.
I have tried this with screen protector and without.
Your comments ?
Cut your nails. It gives better hygiene.
space15 said:
Hello everyone,
Seems like LG g2 screen is not responding to nails. Or I'm the only one with defective unit ? Google doesn't answer this question.
ALso i have noticed that screen is not as sensitive as my previous samsung galaxies... i can always touch the screen very gently so it won't respond. It is a not too big deal for me, but it's interesting.
I have tried this with screen protector and without.
Your comments ?
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Hello.
You're right about the G2 not responding to nails. It has a capacitive touchscreen which basically means that when you touch the screen with your finger, your fingertip, which has an electric charge, disturbs the electrostatic field of your screen and thats what your phone interprets as an input.
Now your nail, which is made of keratine, can conduct an electrical charge but it's highly dependent on the water content of the nail, but a more important factor is the contact area between the screen and the nail. Since a nail touching a screen only touches very few mm^2 and a fingertip often touches about 0.5 cm^2 there's a big difference in the electrical charge that is transferred. Thats also the reason why if you touch the screen very gently you wont get a response either.
Final note: some phones require less electrical current to distort their electrostatic field thus registering a touch easier, and some phones actually have a resistive layer so you can use your phone with gloves. It's just not this phone.
I hope this helps.
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Hello.
You're right about the G2 not responding to nails. It has a capacitive touchscreen
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Actually the screen is made very sensitive so that it can work with gloves on, nailbed, pen tip, pocket multi tools, knives!
U better return it and ask to replace the unit!
Fingernails working on my g2.
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laofan said:
Fingernails working on my g2.
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Yes Im also reading articles that G2 should work with nails and gloves on. Maybe it depends on carrier ?
Any other thoughts ? Does anybody having issues with screen not working using fingernails ?
I assume for girl with long nails this phone would not be usable :fingers-crossed:
you must have wet fingernail to response
Mine doesn't work with fingernails?
₪LG G2₪
Knock on put the touch display always on, so the voltage is very low on LG g2, not like Samsung phone wich is more reactive, even with glows
Hi guys. I have an old I9300 and it works great for it's age. But, when it gets a little hot it stops responding to my touches. I found out that the only solution is to press it hard in the lower left corner and then it works normal after that until it happens again. This solution works all the time. I tried opening the phone up and pressing that part (there's a connector for something there) with a small piece of paper, but it doesn't help.
Anyone had any problem like this or something?
Thanks
PS: is there any remedy for the horrible screen burn in except a new display?
Lick your finger and touch the screen. if it doesn't work then the digitiser may be delaminated or faulty.
shivadow said:
Lick your finger and touch the screen. if it doesn't work then the digitiser may be delaminated or faulty.
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This sounds interesting enough Will try the next time it happens. Will also feel stupid doing it, but yolo.
Conductive screens work on moisture on your skin causing an x-y voltage drop..
Capacitive screens work on x-y voltage resistance caused by pressure..
If it's glass is conductive. If it's plastic is capacitive.
Wetting your finger makes sure you don't have dry or dirty hands and ensures a good contact. If you were licking the screen itself you might get a funny look from passers by..