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I was thinking of rooting my p500 and wanted to know if there is a way to completely bring the phone back to stock so that the guys at LG dont know that I had rooted it earlier if I ever have to send it back for repair or something.
Can It be done by just flashing the nandroid backup from custom recovery and then unroot via z4root?
Please help guys i am a noob in android
Yes, KDZ Flasher, but I don't recommend using it. It does work, but there have been reports of people bricking their phones because of this.
And oh, it restores everything including the stock recovery.
Can It be done by just flashing the nandroid backup from custom recovery and then unroot via z4root?
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You still have the custom recovery. They might find that out
So basically there aint no way I can remove the custom recovery other than the KDZ flasher?
And is this the only way to return the phone into stock condition?
KaKkaR0T said:
So basically there aint no way I can remove the custom recovery other than the KDZ flasher?
And is this the only way to return the phone into stock condition?
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Something like that.
Check this thread (HOWTO section):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247
When a phone is simply rooted with super one click, and it's unrooted later and if i do a factory reset via phone than the root won't be noticable anymore, right?
I mean if i didn't use custom recovery just root via super one click.
So basically the guys at LG/ the guys who repair my phone, won't be able to notice my phone was once rooted.
And when the phone was once rooted but they don't know it was they will still repair it, right?
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And when the phone was once rooted but they don't know it was they will still repair it, right?
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i bricked my O1, and i mean by bricked it is completely dead that it does not turn up by charging it and not even emergency mode appears..
it was rooted with z4root & tried installing custom recovery & tried flashing a new stock rom using KDZ ...
25/01 brought to assistance ... let's wait if warranty applies or i'll have to pay
KaKkaR0T said:
I was thinking of rooting my p500 and wanted to know if there is a way to completely bring the phone back to stock so that the guys at LG dont know that I had rooted it earlier if I ever have to send it back for repair or something.
Can It be done by just flashing the nandroid backup from custom recovery and then unroot via z4root?
Please help guys i am a noob in android
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Dude i did all the steps u mentioned ...However i have one more trick up my sleeve....
Before i installed "Custom Recovery" i created a backup copy of my LG's recovery ...SO in case i have to return my phone for warranty claim..I will restore my nandroid backup first and then erase that custom recovery and replace it with LG's recovery that i backed up and also i will unroot using Z4root...I wud prefer this than flashing using KDZ..
how to create a backup of the original LG's recovery?? sorry but i am a noobie.
KaKkaR0T said:
how to create a backup of the original LG's recovery?? sorry but i am a noobie.
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It is possible- but why?
If you are thinking about "flashing it all back" to "original LG firmware" for "service reasons" then you must use kdz flasher anyway.
KDZ only bricks the phone if u flash the wrong KDZ.. be careful.. I've flashed 5 KDZ's so far with no problems
I'm a noob too and I read a lot for all this stuff here.
I have rooted my phone with SuperOneClick.
I want to install and the custom recovery.
But with KDZ and the flasing of original LG ROM does the custom recovery go away?
evripidis said:
But with KDZ and the flasing of original LG ROM does the custom recovery go away?
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With kdz flasher you can get the "out of the box" experience
Der_Caveman said:
With kdz flasher you can get the "out of the box" experience
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It's pretty good because with this way we can keep thw warrant....
@evripidis
yes. it will return to just being a normal phone. LOL
Hey guys
I've never modded my phone at all when it comes to custom ROM's, etc. My friend told me today that he flashed a CM9 ICS nightly build and it sparked some interest in me.
I read that to get the CM9 ROM you need to have CWM installed on your phone. Is that necessary? If so, why?
I also read that it will void my phones warranty if I install CWM...now obviously nothing is "suppose" to go wrong with the phone while doing this process and I heard that if the phone is soft bricked it can be recovered with nvflash (is this true?).
Finally, is there anything stopping me from flashing a stock bootloader (is that what CWM is?) onto the phone and then a stock ROM, allowing me to do a return on the phone without them knowing?
I'm completely new to this and this whole forum is so confusing and the only real easy instructions I found were on the CM9 site.
Thanks guys,
Elliott
EDIT: I also just saw on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uK-k3KfY5c
He used some sort of USB dongle at the end for something...what did it do?
Everything you need and more in the relevant thread. With such basic questions and the apparent lack of ability to search, read and digest information, you would be wiser to stick to stock, official ROMs though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419102
Thanks but of course that did not answer any of my questions. I have already seen that and obviously you didn't read my post correctly. I am more interested in the warranty issues with doing this...and if it's possible to comletely revert everything to the point where they can't tell what was done with the phone...I have searched around.
What issues do you think you'll run into that will warrant you sending the phone in? Im on my second samsung phone and they've been flawless, warranty be damned, flash away.
CWM "clockworkmod" is a recovery mode replacement for the stock SGS2.
It's used to do a number of things, one of which is to flash items to the device such as full roms or kernels. I'll let you read up on the rest. Without the need to have your device connected to a pc.
Flashing anything unofficial is bound to void your warranty whether via CWM or Odin etc.
The older bootloader allows the use of a USB jig to reset the warning triangle and flash counter to conceal any warranty voiding activity. At some point (can't remember when) Samsung updated the bootloader to prevent the jig working. A simple flash of the older one fixes the issue and doesn't appear to affect the device usage.
There are some great articles on xda to read about flashing etc. Worth a look.
Hope this helps.
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peachpuff said:
What issues do you think you'll run into that will warrant you sending the phone in? Im on my second samsung phone and they've been flawless, warranty be damned, flash away.
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Hey
Well I'm not planning on the phone having any issues...but you never know what could happen...When I first got my SGS2 the home button stopped working within 24 hours and I had to go back and get another one...
I'm just saying anything could happen...ex: buttons breaking, etc.
aceofclubs said:
CWM "clockworkmod" is a recovery mode replacement for the stock SGS2.
It's used to do a number of things, one of which is to flash items to the device such as full roms or kernels. I'll let you read up on the rest. Without the need to have your device connected to a pc.
Flashing anything unofficial is bound to void your warranty whether via CWM or Odin etc.
The older bootloader allows the use of a USB jig to reset the warning triangle and flash counter to conceal any warranty voiding activity. At some point (can't remember when) Samsung updated the bootloader to prevent the jig working. A simple flash of the older one fixes the issue and doesn't appear to affect the device usage.
There are some great articles on xda to read about flashing etc. Worth a look.
Hope this helps.
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Hey thanks for posting.
So you're saying that if I flash CWM, and then need to return the phone for whatever reason, I can install the original Samsung recovery tool that was there prior to installing CWM? Is that what you mean by "a simple flash of the older one..."?
Basically, if I ever need to return the phone, can I make it reset 100% original so that even if they knew how to check for stuff like CM9 and CWM, they wouldn't be able to find out that it was ever installed?
And when Samsung releases their official firmware and I decide I want to flash to that one, can I still use it? I'm guessing I could just flash it normally using CWM, but what if I wanted to go back to 100% original and update from there?
Starholdest said:
Thanks but of course that did not answer any of my questions. I have already seen that and obviously you didn't read my post correctly.
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Well that kind of attitude just irks me.
Unless I lack the ability to count, you asked a total of five questions, all of which are answered in that thread and countless others around this forum.
Anyway, your apparent main concern has to do with wanting to commit fraud. If you're okay with that, keep going. I guess since you're happy to break forum rules (rule #1), why not try and fudge a warranty claim?
Yes you can return your device to completely Telco/carrier stock.
If you want to do it...
Make a CWM backup.
Backup everything to pc from internal SD. A simple copy will do.
Use CWM to format internal SD.
Boot into download mode and flash Telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin.
Use jig to reset flash counter.
Use stock recovery to wipe device.
This should be as it was when you pulled it out of the box on day one.
When you get it back use cfroot kernel to root via Odin.
Copy SD card backup from pc to SD.
Restore CWM backup.
Should now be as it was before resetting to stock. Except maybe the modem if you like a different one from Telco/carrier stock.
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aceofclubs said:
Yes you can return your device to completely Telco/carrier stock.
If you want to do it...
Make a CWM backup.
Backup everything to pc from internal SD. A simple copy will do.
Use CWM to format internal SD.
Boot into download mode and flash Telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin.
Use jig to reset flash counter.
Use stock recovery to wipe device.
This should be as it was when you pulled it out of the box on day one.
When you get it back use cfroot kernel to root via Odin.
Copy SD card backup from pc to SD.
Restore CWM backup.
Should now be as it was before resetting to stock. Except maybe the modem if you like a different one from Telco/carrier stock.
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Excellent thanks for your help!
So as soon as I boot into download mode and flash telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin, will CWM be erased? Also, what about what this gentleman said?
The older bootloader allows the use of a USB jig to reset the warning triangle and flash counter to conceal any warranty voiding activity. At some point (can't remember when) Samsung updated the bootloader to prevent the jig working.
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What if I have the updated bootloader?
Yes CWM is removed by flashing official firmware so original recovery from then.
If jig doesn't work use Odin to flash the old bootloader. It definitely will work then.
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aceofclubs said:
Yes CWM is removed by flashing official firmware so original recovery from then.
If jig doesn't work use Odin to flash the old bootloader. It definitely will work then.
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Great thanks for all your help.
Going here to see the stock firmware (I guess bootloader is the same thing?), and scrolling down to the "Bell" section, there are two items listed there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113928
UGKG2: http://www.multiupload.com/WHKOJ8A5FG
Firmware info: PDA: UGKG2 Phone: UGKG2 CSC: BMCKG2
UGKG2 Stock Kernel:http://www.multiupload.com/43QUKBBK47
Password is: [email protected]
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What's the difference between the two?
The first link has the entire rom, the 2nd has just the kernel. However...
These links have been dead for a while now, so you'll need to head over to Samfirmware.com & search for the firmware you need. Follow whatever instructions they have for flashing firmware downloaded from their site.
Starholdest said:
Great thanks for all your help.
Going here to see the stock firmware (I guess bootloader is the same thing?), and scrolling down to the "Bell" section, there are two items listed there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113928
What's the difference between the two?
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Thanks. And what is the difference between just the kernel and the whole thing? Is kernel just another word for bootloader? I looked up the terms briefly...
Also, samfirmware.com doesn't have the one I have...is there another source or something?
The rom has stuff like themes, fonts, and other stuff (nuts & bolts) the kernel is like the engine (controls stuff like WiFi, controls everything you can do as root, etc). The package containing the whole rom also has the kernel in it.
No idea. Do a Google search. Alternatively, you can get the latest firmware available for your country/carrier (which may or may not be the same as the one you're looking for, depending on whether the carrier has updated firmware since the one you're looking for was released) with the PC version of Checkfus (do a search for it on here Google).
Edit to add - A better analogy for rom/kernel. Think of your phone as a car. The kernel is the engine, the rom is everything else/the car itself.
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Thanks. And what is the difference between just the kernel and the whole thing?
Also, samfirmware.com doesn't have the one I have...is there another source or something?
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Bootloader etc.
Starholdest said:
Excellent thanks for your help!
So as soon as I boot into download mode and flash telco/carrier stock firmware via Odin, will CWM be erased? Also, what about what this gentleman said?
What if I have the updated bootloader?
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I think everyone has cleared everything else for you, so I'll talk about the jig! Firstly you most likely have the new bootloader so your flash counter will still be on, therefore your warranty will still be void. LUCKILY there's an app called TriangleAway (made my Chainfire) which you can find with a simple search, this will let you reset your flash counter and get rid of the yellow triangle as long as you're running a rooted ICS ROM (like CM9) and you can then flash back to stock and all traces of any root will be gone. There is a warning that the app can brick your phone but through my many uses of it, it has never happened and no-one has reported any brick.
Cool thanks for your help!
Hello,
I have the samsung Galaxy s3 unrooted with CWM installed in it. I want to remove the CWM for some warranty issues. Can you tell me any way to remove it without actually resetting the phone to factory settings?Is there any way to do it?
only way i know is to flash stock sammy rom which also overwrites the recovery therefore putting you back to stock sammy recovery and stock rom.but try to search thoroughly,who knows you might find a solution instead of just waiting for the answer here in forums.
LaZyDood said:
only way i know is to flash stock sammy rom which also overwrites the recovery therefore putting you back to stock sammy recovery and stock rom.but try to search thoroughly,who knows you might find a solution instead of just waiting for the answer here in forums.
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THank you, ya i searched but could not find a way to remove CWM without flashing. I need something other than flashing.
amantheghost said:
THank you, ya i searched but could not find a way to remove CWM without flashing. I need something other than flashing.
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Then you're completely out of luck. You need to flash a new recovery stock or otherwise.
Kryten2k35 said:
Then you're completely out of luck. You need to flash a new recovery stock or otherwise.
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My phone isnt rooted. then also no option for removing it without flashing?
Phone model: Verizon SCH-I545
Build JDQ39.I545VRUDMI1
Have already obtained root via this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487142
Here is the problem: I am using CWM to attempt to reboot into CWM Recovery but the phone will only boot into normal recovery.
1) Is there a way to fix/get around this problem? (I assume that once I install a new Rom this problem will no longer occur)
2) Odin seems to be an option to install a new ROM without CWM recovery, however 100% of the ROMs I want to install are ZIP, not TAR as Odin requires. (I am unsure I should unzip and tar a ROM and expect that to work in Odin?)
Thanks for your help!
You'll have to use Safestrap, it's the only way for your build.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441&styleid=18
Disappointing
Sir_Eagle said:
You'll have to use Safestrap, it's the only way for your build.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441&styleid=18
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Thanks! This saves me time.
So you are saying Odin is not an option? The only way to Flash a new ROM for my build is with Safestrap. Its very hard to tell by the thread if its safe to use, or even a real way to truly install a new ROM. By that I mean, I can't tell if Safestrap's method of installing a new ROM doesn't in fact replace the existing ROM, it just installs an alternate ROM to the side of the regular ROM?
This is disappointing enough that I may sell my S4 and stick with my Galaxy Nexus
ktamlyn said:
Thanks! This saves me time.
So you are saying Odin is not an option? The only way to Flash a new ROM for my build is with Safestrap. Its very hard to tell by the thread if its safe to use, or even a real way to truly install a new ROM. By that I mean, I can't tell if Safestrap's method of installing a new ROM doesn't in fact replace the existing ROM, it just installs an alternate ROM to the side of the regular ROM?
This is disappointing enough that I may sell my S4 and stick with my Galaxy Nexus
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Odin is not an option for installing custom ROMs. Since the bootloader is locked, the only things you can flash on your device using Odin are factory stock files. No custom recovery, no AOSP or CWM at the moment - only what's compatible with Safestrap.
Yes, it's safe. SS installs the new ROM in free space in your phone's internal storage, leaving the stock ROM intact for recovery. This should have been quite clear if you read the Safestrap description.
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Odin is not an option for installing custom ROMs. Since the bootloader is locked, the only things you can flash on your device using Odin are factory stock files. No custom recovery, no AOSP or CWM at the moment - only what's compatible with Safestrap.
Yes, it's safe. SS installs the new ROM in free space in your phone's internal storage, leaving the stock ROM intact for recovery. This should have been quite clear if you read the Safestrap description.
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I continued reading and accept reality now - I think I was in denial! My mistake of letting the phone update is seriously frustrating. My hope was to have the Google Edition ROM installed, but SS doesn't allow this currently.
Sorry to hear that... if you want custom software you need to read before you buy, assumptions are a mofo.
i'm guessing we can't simply use odin and flash to a different software build
endleesss said:
i'm guessing we can't simply use odin and flash to a different software build
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That is correct. Once you take the plunge, you can never go back unless you or someone you know has Jtag experience.
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itsdubai said:
That is correct. Once you take the plunge, you can never go back unless you or someone you know has Jtag experience.
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I've only seen one person say they successfully used JTAG to downgrade firmware, granted he's a reputable developer, but even if you ask JTAG they'll tell you they can't get our model to downgrade.
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I have a Verizon S4 (build VRUFNC5) with locked boot loader. I'm interested in using Xposed Installer but want to have a way to recover if anything goes wrong. So I was looking through different methods and the only one I can find that I think will work with a locked boot loader is using Odin to flash a factory image. However, I just wanted to be sure that it will before I do anything with Xposed.
The files I found to use in Odin are found on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735172
Can someone just help me out and confirm that I will be able to use Odin and that those are the correct files I would use.
Thanks
cac595 said:
I have a Verizon S4 (build VRUFNC5) with locked boot loader. I'm interested in using Xposed Installer but want to have a way to recover if anything goes wrong. So I was looking through different methods and the only one I can find that I think will work with a locked boot loader is using Odin to flash a factory image. However, I just wanted to be sure that it will before I do anything with Xposed.
The files I found to use in Odin are found on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735172
Can someone just help me out and confirm that I will be able to use Odin and that those are the correct files I would use.
Thanks
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Yes, that's the right way to restore factory NC5.
k1mu said:
Yes, that's the right way to restore factory NC5.
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Ok, and I shouldn't have any problems since I used the "over the air" method to update to what I have now? Even though I'm 100% stock, besides root, this method will work to unbrick and wont cause any other issues? Also, one last thing. I can't use Odin to go back to a previous build can I? As in anything before NC5 will cause problems or brick.
cac595 said:
Ok, and I shouldn't have any problems since I used the "over the air" method to update to what I have now? Even though I'm 100% stock, besides root, this method will work to unbrick and wont cause any other issues? Also, one last thing. I can't use Odin to go back to a previous build can I? As in anything before NC5 will cause problems or brick.
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Yes, this won't cause any problems as long as you flash whatever your bootloader expects or anything later.
You can't flash back. (FAQ #1).
k1mu said:
Yes, this won't cause any problems as long as you flash whatever your bootloader expects or anything later.
You can't flash back. (FAQ #1).
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Cool, thanks a lot for your help.