Samsung set to discontinue Galaxy Alpha in favor of cheaper phones
The*Galaxy Alpha*might have been among the best phones Samsung ever produced — it's certainly*the prettiest*— if it weren't for a couple of stumbles: the battery didn't last long enough and its full flagship price forced it to compete against better-rounded rivals. Now, just a few brief months after its introduction, the Alpha is reportedly being supplanted by its successor Galaxy A5, which will take over as the leading Samsung handset for the mid-range market.
ET News*reports that the*Galaxy A5, which launched in China last month, is being brought over to South Korea as part of Samsung's effort to "take the bull by the horns" and*reorganize its slumping smartphone division. The 5-inch A5 is a continuation of the Alpha's design philosophy, emphasizing thinness and higher-quality metal construction, though it opts for a tamer spec sheet that will allow it to be priced at a more competitive 400,000 won (roughly $360). The report states that the A5 will be arriving in Samsung's home country in January or February, while the Galaxy Alpha will be phased out as production ramps down once the current inventory of materials is exhausted.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/29/7459743/samsung-galaxy-alpha-discontinuation-report
too sadly,what worry me is updates
Hope they maintain the updates
Just read the article myself and copied the link and went to XDA to make a post about it. You did it before me.
It pisses me off tho. They finally started making a decent specced phone with a quality feel, somewhat at least. I was hoping they'd continue and perfect it with future models. A5 sounds like a device I would never buy. Specs wise I'm reluctant I bought the Alpha to start with. Exynos is just never good. But the phone itself is decent and I have no battery quirks. That prolly has something to do with me being very introverted and I spend like 2 hours a month on calls.
To me, having a decent community for my phone on XDA is also a huge factor. The problem to me with Samsung will always be their Exynos processors. It makes developing for the device so much harder. Now for the Alpha another problem rises, it will be discontinued so it's limited how many people will ever get their hands on one now since dropped prices and supply will go hand in hand and eventually there will be no more phones. I haven't owned a Samsung phone for years simply because they chose their own noob processor and I returned because of build quality. This was a bad decision from Samsung and I feel like they don't really understand. Making more mid-range devices will not make more sales for them. It never has. I work as an IT administrator and we actually use mid-range Samsung devices. People with iPhones and such report "sluggish" behavior. And all I can say is.. Yeah, when you've tried a decent processor it's hard using a handset that uses some old cheap processor for power. It just wont feel as fluent. Even the common end user will notice that a phone runs sluggish.
It's my last Samsung device (for the time being) and I'm somewhat sad cause the S2 and the Galaxy Nexus was my first two decently specced Androids back in the day when they released. I'm sad that Samsung can't get their act together and decide what they want from their phones. Oh well, I'm just ranting.
All in all I hoped for Samsung to continue the fashion with a nicely specced hanset with below 5 inch screen. Guess all we'll get is the A5 or a bigger S5/6 or a Note. I'm just sick of the hype around big handsets. I have my tablet if I want a big screen for something. iPhone has like 2 models atm. - Why can't Samsung just like kick out a ****ty phone, a nice small phone, and then some beefed up S5/6 and a Note for the people that demands a phone on roids. I don't see why you need so many different handsets. All in all it doesn't matter if you choose a S4 Mini or a Core Plus or a Young or a Neo. They are all horrible old devices and they will not be up to standards. Focus on one of them, give em a touch-up.
Sorry, sorry, sorry. Now I'm really worried that this device wont even see half of the dev that happend on the Tab Pro that at least got a CM12 Lollipop release. Sigh.
Merry Christmas guys, and a happy new year.
- @samsung ,you done slipped up again. Make up your mind.
As long as it gets the update to Android 5 I couldn't care less. The Alpha is a beast and I've been very happy with it even coming from an S5. This bad boy has done me just fine, waiting for an S6 with the same quality as the Alpha, Samsung had better deliver or I'll be looking elsewhere to devote my loyalty to.
On the other hand....that is good news....
If sammy stops alpha, it will get a high after-sales value, it will be a rare collectible device,
ofc im happy with it, i do not want my phone to be in everyone's hands
Very sad news , i am very happy with my Alpha and this is Perfect phone.
Just bought it 20 days ago.
Why they want to discontinue
I just ordered the note 4 and it should be here tomorrow. With the new thinner design philosophy the bigger phones don't feel that bad when holding them. The alpha was a nice phone but the lagginess really got to me. I came from the Nexus 5, once you go smooth it's hard to go back to laggy. The note 4's display is just phenomenal to, can't wait to get it. I wish they would have waited a few days to announce this though, now the value on this phone will go down like mad.
I guess it's no surprise since this phone had little impact in the west. I don't think I will ever buy a carrier exclusive phone ever again.
omg i will never buy anything from samsung ever again.I dont know what happening to me first i planned to buy the Z2 then my cousin said Sony is no good buy Samsung,instead I was like okay.Im buying The Alpha even though I never ever like samsung phone but this phone look really good.And now sam**** is doing this to all of us(the alpha's owner) but i hope we still got update from sam**** because in xda there's not alot developer for this phone
ps1:sorry for being rude im really piss of right now
ps2:sorry for my bad English
ps3:I will never buy anything from samsung company again
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omg i will never buy anything from samsung ever again.I dont know what happening to me first i planned to buy the Z2 then my cousin said Sony is no good buy Samsung,instead I was like okay.Im buying The Alpha even though I never ever like samsung phone but this phone look really good.And now sam**** is doing this to all of us(the alpha's owner) but i hope we still got update from sam**** because in xda there's not alot developer for this phone
ps1:sorry for being rude im really piss of right now
ps2:sorry for my bad English
ps3:I will never buy anything from samsung company again
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How RUMORS of samsung starting to stop manufacturing of galaxy Alpha impacts usability of the phone? It seems, that Alpha will have Lollipop update. :fingers-crossed:
I just don't get all the rage coming from you guys. At least in Latvia it seems to be more popular within youth than SGS5. And it is cheaper on contract (monthly fees) than SGS5 or Z3C.... Developers will do their work, just wait. Coming from Galaxy 3 (i5800) I can say that slow progress at the start leads to better community in future, still love that phone .... And yeah, at the end there were like 4-8 real developers (everything started with one guy who made several custom kernels and later ported CM ROMs to Galaxy 3, others came and gone over the years, but each left their impact on development for the device), some themers and few system optimisers, but progress they made TOGETHER for that phone in terms of speed and functionality was huge.
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As long as it gets the update to Android 5 I couldn't care less.
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On the other hand....that is good news....
If sammy stops alpha, it will get a high after-sales value, it will be a rare collectible device,
ofc im happy with it, i do not want my phone to be in everyone's hands
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My thoughts exactly. Android 5 and rare device should give me pretty good price, when I sell this on Q4/15.
will we get lollipop 5.0 update?
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will we get lollipop 5.0 update?
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Of course
goranzdr said:
will we get lollipop 5.0 update?
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We dont mm know.
Samsung has yet too announce anything.
And to people thinking their phone "rare" your not going to magically make huge profit. The phone is not sought after and its definitely not "rare", it has low production to meet low demand.
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We dont mm know.
Samsung has yet too announce anything.
And to people thinking their phone "rare" your not going to magically make huge profit. The phone is not sought after and its definitely not "rare", it has low production to meet low demand.
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yeah if the phone is rare its's very popular in the past and now it's discontinued or hard to buy. But this alpha is defferent i mean this phne is good at design and specs but price is abit high i think,no one really use it so it's not rare at all.Over all i love this phone but not Samsung.
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This is bad news Lollipop update ok, but what's next? If Alpha will discounted after Lollipop we can flash CM or other custom ROMs, but they will not support heart rate monitor, LTE-A and fingerprint scanner.
Of course, this is a small sacrifice for newest software. But I would not want to lose these functions
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This is bad news Lollipop update ok, but what's next? If Alpha will discounted after Lollipop we can flash CM or other custom ROMs, but they will not support heart rate monitor, LTE-A and fingerprint scanner.
Of course, this is a small sacrifice for newest software. But I would not want to lose these functions
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Well it's not like Google is going to release something huge as lollipop in 1-2 years so wouldn't expect Samsung to support newer androids than that either.
If you want good android version support, you bought a very wrong device.
Ranking:
Best support = nexus devices. (and google versions)
Second best = flagships, like s5, with qualcomm chipset.
Third = other qualcomm chipset devices
Fourth = flagships with Exynos chipset (example our device)
Fifth = other Exynos chipset devices.
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Well it's not like Google is going to release something huge as lollipop in 1-2 years so wouldn't expect Samsung to support newer androids than that either.
If you want good android version support, you both a very wrong device.
Ranking:
Best support = nexus devices. (and google versions)
Second best = flagships, like s5, with qualcomm chipset.
Third = other qualcomm chipset devices
Fourth = flagships with Exynos chipset (example our device)
Fifth = other Exynos chipset devices.
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Exynos 5430 is much better than s801 or may be s805 .
i have compared my Alpha with with friend's Xperia z3 , htc m8 , and all i can say is my is faster ,
i have compared loading time of Asphalt 8 , Brother in arms 3 , Gangstar vegas, modern combat 5 and all i can say is its loading faster on mine , s801 is no where nearer .
Also in multitasking , i found my Alpha more responsive , Fluid .
i never liked Nexus devices , used nexus 5 for 10 days , and ditched that Garbage looking and garbage feeling Stock android , and its having Zero functionality compared to our Alpha , if new Nexus 6 is For even 300 $ , still i will not get it :silly:
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Exynos 5430 is much better than s801 or may be s805 .
i have compared my Alpha with with friend's Xperia z3 , htc m8 , and all i can say is my is faster ,
i have compared loading time of Asphalt 8 , Brother in arms 3 , Gangstar vegas, modern combat 5 and all i can say is its loading faster on mine , s801 is no where nearer .
Also in multitasking , i found my Alpha more responsive , Fluid .
i never liked Nexus devices , used nexus 5 for 10 days , and ditched that Garbage looking and garbage feeling Stock android , and its having Zero functionality compared to our Alpha , if new Nexus 6 is For even 300 $ , still i will not get it :silly:
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I didn't say anything about performance, my list is only about android version support and how easily the devices get custom roms. Read before posting
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If you want good android version support, you bought a very wrong device.
Ranking:
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Fourth = flagships with Exynos chipset (example our device)
Fifth = other Exynos chipset devices.
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For example Note II with Exynos was released in 2012 and get Lollipop update in 2015. Samsung complies with the terms of updates (Google says about 18 month of updates). If Alpha will recieve update in spring-2016 - this good, but I'm afraid that because of the discontinue that will not happen.
I do not want something fantastic, do not want the latest software among the first. I just want to support. I want a new smartphone does not forget
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I've had my Desire HD for almost a year now and it's a great phone and has served me well but once again the new year has rolled around and my annual phone savings have started to swell so I'm looking to get a new phone.
The only phone at the minute that seems like a formidable upgrade from my desire HD and has caught my eye is the Galaxy Note, my main question however is:
Should I part with my money now or wait to see what 2012 has to offer?
Any replies/suggestions/opinions are appreciated, thankyou.
I heard that there's going to be a very fast phone coming in 2015.
I'd wait. quad core phones should be rolling out within the next few months.
unless you get a super good deal on a dual core phones out now, and don't need to have your new phone asap, really no reason not to wait just a couple months or so.
now why the heck would one need a quad core? one more way to uncharge your phone?!
ptt: if you don't need the best cam, i would def. lay down your money now on the GNex, best phone i ever owned... and the pure Google Android experience is awesome in my opinion
I'm not a massive fan of the nexus, just not my cup of tea design wise, if I'm to get a new one it'd be the note hands down.
I think I'll stick with my desire HD for now and get one of those lovely £10 a month GiffGaff simcards, upgrading so soon is a bit silly considering I only want the note because of it's superior browsing experience, everything else is just buffer.
Thanks anyway guys.
No matter when you buy, the next generation will be out a month later.
If you want the best futureproofing ATM, Galaxy Nexus is the best choice. But if you are into the HTC experience since you had the DHD so long, HTC should announce their Tegra 3 quad core phones shortly after CES, in case you want to look out for that as well
I'm personally going to wait to see the selection of tegra 3 devices that come out or are announced over the next 4 or 5 months before making a purchase decision. My CM7 Touchpad will do for now.
I think it's better to wait for quad-core phones.
After a couple of days pass there'll be CES! I think a lot of great quad-cores (actually not only quad-core devices) will be shown at the exhibition. So, there'll be much more devices that can 'catch your eye' and more options to choose from
They're out to get you
No matter what you do, the manufacturers are all out to get you in the end. You buy one now, 3 months later, there's something new that's out that you can't just get an "upgrade" to your existing phone for.
Samsung is a classic example. They could deploy ICS to the Galaxy S, but instead of just doing it and giving their customers what they want, they make them go out and buy the S2 (which is a fine device... ), but it only helps the carriers lock people into another 3 year contract, when they only had a year in to begin with.
It's a serious cramp in consumer leverage.
Wait till Cortex A15 processors (and Qualcomm's Krait architecture) come out.
The only quad core devices that will be coming out in the next roughly 3 months will all likely be Tegra 3, which IMO has a lackluster GPU and is A9. Tegra 3 definitely is pretty nice, but I think A15 chips with more powerful GPUs will be much better than Tegra 3.
I think it's safe to say that the Galaxy S3 is going to be something special. I'd wait to see just how good it is rather than buying now.
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I think it's safe to say that the Galaxy S3 is going to be something special. I'd wait to see just how good it is rather than buying now.
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I agree, the new S3 will be something. Wait mid year and see what gets announced.
S3 will no doubt be fantastic specs wise but I just don't like the plastic construction and the lack of a bit of weight in Samsung phones and I know I'm not alone in that, so will probably be buying the HTC Edge, although if it's disappointing or not right for some reason I'll probably just try to find a good 32GB Gnex deal, can't justify spending the €500-600 most are looking for on Ebay for the 16GB model atm.
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No matter when you buy, the next generation will be out a month later.
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Yes. That's true and that is exactly what causes the low resale value of an android phone, IMHO.
hey I love the pace and the low resale value of android phones
otherwise I would never have my S2 on boost
I could never afford the phone otherwise
so you manufacturers keep cranking them out please because I don't do contracts
I cannot wait until the next batch of phones comes out because then I can grab a couple of extra S2's on craigslist
I am flat out impressed with a galaxy s 2 the only thing is really lacks is not enough resolution for the screen
for most things including games and videos you cannot notice the resolution lacking but the interface is too crowded things are too large I found lcd resolution allows me to change the dpi too an affective 160 dpi which simulates a 1200x720 screen resolution much much better
if a new galaxy s 3 has a 720 resolution screen keeps the SAMOLED screen feature I will buy it
otherwise I am perfectly happy with a S2's amazing feature set
If you're in America, don't wait for the S3. We most likely won't get them until late 2012 unless you fork over $800 for the international version.
Just my humble opinion, but quad cores are a bit early to adopt, there isn't going to me much application support utilizing all four cores till they flood the market, and there was already a bunch of new dual cores announced at CES - granted it's only the first day.
I think you better wait and buy something more worthwhile
you better wait for SGS 3..i think it will be good
Hi guys, I'm planning to get alpha or some similar phone, and yeah, i have YouTube channel and i m recording some ROM reviews and some things about phones, as i can see there's just one ROM in android development Will be there more, if yes i will pick this phone for sure, would you suggest me some other phone to pick instead this, that have great developer support? Its really disappointing that there's one rom just for alpha it is really beautiful phone
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Hi guys, I'm planning to get alpha or some similar phone, and yeah, i have YouTube channel and i m recording some ROM reviews and some things about phones, as i can see there's just one ROM in android development Will be there more, if yes i will pick this phone for sure, would you suggest me some other phone to pick instead this, that have great developer support? Its really disappointing that there's one rom just for alpha it is really beautiful phone
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Yeah it's too bad about the alpha but it seems right now people want 5 inch screens so it loses out on that. I would recommend the S5 or HTC one m8, both have great dev support. But the best idea is to wait for spring/summer when the S6 and the new HTC is released
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Yeah it's too bad about the alpha but it seems right now people want 5 inch screens so it loses out on that. I would recommend the S5 or HTC one m8, both have great dev support. But the best idea is to wait for spring/summer when the S6 and the new HTC is released
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I really really like alpha Probably i will sell mine lg g2 for 250 euros and i will add 100 or less and buy lg g3, i will play with it for a while and then i will buy galaxy s6 or some phone that will come out I was thinking about xperia z3 or z3 compact , but z4 will come out in march (i think so) , also i dont like plastic galaxy s5 but i like htc one m8....
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The Galaxy Alpha is a great phone! you don't need actually replace rom.
Just got a small ota update and se security update from play. Changelog anyone?
Perhaps preparing for 5.0
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I really really like alpha Probably i will sell mine lg g2 for 250 euros and i will add 100 or less and buy lg g3, i will play with it for a while and then i will buy galaxy s6 or some phone that will come out I was thinking about xperia z3 or z3 compact , but z4 will come out in march (i think so) , also i dont like plastic galaxy s5 but i like htc one m8....
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Since quite a lots of android users switched-to/switched-back Iphone now because of 4.7"/5.5" Iphone launched. You really don't expect any android discussion board will be as busy as in the old age, the time has gone. Another major reason is nowadays people slowly upgrade their smartphone because hardware is started to mature. When you look on XDA, you will know many new phones development board isn't that active now.
I'm now with Z1 Compact and also thinking to upgrade to Z3 Compact or Alpha or S6(if it manage to smaller than S5 in size a bit) in around March/April. I think mostly I will pick Z3c or Alpha because I believe S6 would be too expensive to me and excess my budget but I will put an eye on it. Z4/Z4c/Z4U is almost sure to hit a big delay now, they will all announce only on May/June sometimes. So, I decided to don't wait them now.
If you like Alpha, just go get it. It is a rare Samsung phone though almost no development here but the phone itself is very capable without any support. If you want a little bit bigger community and need a microSD slot, then pick Z3c.
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Since quite a lots of android users switched-to/switched-back Iphone now because of 4.7"/5.5" Iphone launched. You really don't expect any android discussion board will be as busy as in the old age, the time has gone. Another major reason is nowadays people slowly upgrade their smartphone because hardware is started to mature. When you look on XDA, you will know many new phones development board isn't that active now.
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Switching to Iphone from more matured system? Iphone was good and impressive like 3 generations ago when android wasn't so matured system, nowdays I don't see a reason for people who own for example a S4 to switch to Iphone.
The latter part is very true, a 100€ phone can handle basically anything that basic user throws at it. And the devs and other people who can get more out of their current older phones trough custom roms, don't really have reasons for upgrade.
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Switching to Iphone from more matured system? Iphone was good and impressive like 3 generations ago when android wasn't so matured system, nowdays I don't see a reason for people who own for example a S4 to switch to Iphone.
The latter part is very true, a 100€ phone can handle basically anything that basic user throws at it. And the devs and other people who can get more out of their current older phones trough custom roms, don't really have reasons for upgrade.
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You gonna search more information. Iphone market share worldwide is same with Samsung in 2014 Q4 and already excess Samsung now in 2015 Q1 so Apple is the No.1 smartphone company again now.
System-wise is always Android better but since Iphone borrowed more and more functions from Android in every generation OS, the gap in different will just become smaller in long run. But on the other hand, Iphone still owns the most best apps and even both platform got the same one, IOS one usually performs better.
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You gonna search more information. Iphone market share worldwide is same with Samsung in 2014 Q4 and already excess Samsung now in 2015 Q1 so Apple is the No.1 smartphone company again now.
System-wise is always Android better but since Iphone borrowed more and more functions from Android in every generation OS, the gap in different will just become smaller in long run. But on the other hand, Iphone still owns the most best apps and even both platform got the same one, IOS one usually performs better.
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I don't like Apple at all... I really like Android cause you can access all parts of system and you can do many things. also i mentioned that i m making video reviews of many android roms and i need phone that have good developer support... Can u suggest me some phone that i can buy right now instead Note 4 (its too big)... I will buy some better phone (probably g4) when some phone that impress me come out.... Thanks for reply
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I don't like Apple at all... I really like Android cause you can access all parts of system and you can do many things. also i mentioned that i m making video reviews of many android roms and i need phone that have good developer support... Can u suggest me some phone that i can buy right now instead Note 4 (its too big)... I will buy some better phone (probably g4) when some phone that impress me come out.... Thanks for reply
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Only G3 or S5 or M8 have active development I can name(Z3/Z3c isn't active coz most people still using Z1/Z1c/Z2) but M8 camera is really suck I don't suggest it. And you don't like plastic samsung so no S5 I think, only G3 leave.
S6 will use Exynos and no S810, this time S6 development should not be very active as well because Exynos is harder to support. G4 will also hit a big delay becoz GFlex2 will out first on March/April, G4 won't appear until May/June much like Z4.
I feel bad right now cus im hoping to see alot of roms for this great device but i guese i was wrong.Im not upset or anything but this is why we buy android phones instead of iphone we need to change to somthing new
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anyone else looked at this phone? seems like a decent replacement and not too small.
if not, what else are people moving onto?
given up on sony releasing
I'm just looking at nexus, blackberry if the rumors is true that they will move on to android, or the classic HTC.
HTC is probably the manufacturer you can't go wrong with. If you look at this part of the XDA forum..its filled with devs making roms and kernels.
I think s810 is just temporarily. Maybe next year there will be a new series of soc that won't overheat as this years release.
Its just the same as with the tegra 3. You could fry eggs on it. But HTC moved on and improved their devices. And I hope they will release another beast in the near future.
Huawei is enlarging their market on mobile devices but I think its to early to invest in one of those devices. I want there to be devs who makes roms so I don't have to rely only on the stock rom/firmware to work when something goes wrong. If that ever happens...who knows.
Samsung is a no go. They don't exist in my world. Last and only device I owned was the SII Exynos 4210. They make good electronics elsewhere but not mobile devices.
LG is also a no go. Only nexus. To much plastic, big LG logo and weird cheap looking software interface on stock rom. Reminds me of MIUI and Huawei.
SONY is moving from europe home to japan. Okay...weird. So then I just won't buy your stuff then. Bye..I will never buy a sony mobile device again.
When "I" am buying a device. I am only buying the flagships. Because I am looking for an investment that will last for many years and won't seem slow even after four years compared to newer devices. And also the general lifetime of the device. I want there to be devs here on the forum that I can rely on after device has reached the end-of-lifetime.
The Z ultra is a bit special. It has the same hardware specs as its brother Z1....so for performance I would still call this a kind of side show flagship despite the low spec camera.
i'#d be ok with sony if they would release an ultra 2 but it's too late now.
samsung, i liked until the whole locking SIMs to europe only or whatever around the time of the note 3 i tink, maybe 4.
moto x is brand new but there's some people on the board already. once it shows as rooted i'll jump on there. it's cheap as well actually. well cheaper than the ultra was when i bought it
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i'#d be ok with sony if they would release an ultra 2 but it's too late now.
samsung, i liked until the whole locking SIMs to europe only or whatever around the time of the note 3 i tink, maybe 4.
moto x is brand new but there's some people on the board already. once it shows as rooted i'll jump on there. it's cheap as well actually. well cheaper than the ultra was when i bought it
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I don't have any experience of motorola exept for the old classic pagers and radios. I've never seen a moto x in real life so I don't really have any opinion. Its offered at a good price yes! but yeah I really dunno. The only con I can see is the tiny battery at 2300mAh.
From what I can see its almost like some mix to a budget nexus device..almost stock rom and no bloat apps. :good:
Me myself is waiting to see what google has to offer. There is already a bunch of pics of the new nexus devices but I'm curiously waiting for the release event
3000 for the style no?
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3000 for the style no?
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oops ....I probably looked at the older model. You're right its 3000mAh!
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_style-7229.php
Then it looks alright!
gave me a scare there for a sec
is that when it comes to android, always buy the goddamn flagship.
"OH YES 720p with that processor means this phone will be so smooth and battery life should be great" but here I am a couple months later with a phone that takes 10 seconds to open the recent apps menu. Samsung just does not have the time to regulate and quality control these lower range phones when they've got like 4 flagships to prioritise.
btw, I have 10gb of memory free, play no demanding games and have no more than 20 apps installed. Still a joke.
Note to self, when it comes to android phones, do not try and save money.
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is that when it comes to android, always buy the goddamn flagship.
"OH YES 720p with that processor means this phone will be so smooth and battery life should be great" but here I am a couple months later with a phone that takes 10 seconds to open the recent apps menu. Samsung just does not have the time to regulate and quality control these lower range phones when they've got like 4 flagships to prioritise.
btw, I have 10gb of memory free, play no demanding games and have no more than 20 apps installed. Still a joke.
Note to self, when it comes to android phones, do not try and save money.
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Which version do your have? I have the 850M rooted and it wheels great running KK. 850A running KK is also decent.
Well techinically this phone was a real flagship at its time, lauched a little after the galaxy s5 it was the first to use the 20nm exynos chipset, it have the ISOCELL camera, 4k recording, 32gb memory, the heart rate monitor. on efficiency is only superseded by the galaxy note 4 launched several months later using the armv8 architecture, that was a real jump
the real problem of our phone it is because it was REALLY expensive at time(why so expensive i dont know), and the price only dropped years after, so even being a flagship phone, it have low priority of updates now because not so much people have this phone, why kit kat is so stable? because it was new, and samsung was caring for the phone, make it real good.
i bought one for cheap this year, i have no complaints, phone have the absolutely perfect size, i am an avid android tweaker, even tough phone runs nice even on stock configurations, the only downsides are the recent apps bugged button, sometimes it does not work, some times it works, and always respondin slowly, i got used to not using it <_>
i am really sure we will receive the marshmallow update, including the new interface.
but is really sad, that people with the first gen moto g received marshmallow about a year ago, this just show how samsung only wants to sell phones, make it "old" after some time and make you buy a new one.
victoram said:
Well techinically this phone was a real flagship at its time, lauched a little after the galaxy s5 it was the first to use the 20nm exynos chipset, it have the ISOCELL camera, 4k recording, 32gb memory, the heart rate monitor. on efficiency is only superseded by the galaxy note 4 launched several months later using the armv8 architecture, that was a real jump
the real problem of our phone it is because it was REALLY expensive at time(why so expensive i dont know), and the price only dropped years after, so even being a flagship phone, it have low priority of updates now because not so much people have this phone, why kit kat is so stable? because it was new, and samsung was caring for the phone, make it real good.
i bought one for cheap this year, i have no complaints, phone have the absolutely perfect size, i am an avid android tweaker, even tough phone runs nice even on stock configurations, the only downsides are the recent apps bugged button, sometimes it does not work, some times it works, and always respondin slowly, i got used to not using it <_>
i am really sure we will receive the marshmallow update, including the new interface.
but is really sad, that people with the first gen moto g received marshmallow about a year ago, this just show how samsung only wants to sell phones, make it "old" after some time and make you buy a new one.
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What mods have you done with this phone?
The best part about this phone is the small size, light weight, and changeable battery. I can tolerate not getting MM for having these features.
cqdiep said:
What mods have you done with this phone?
The best part about this phone is the small size, light weight, and changeable battery. I can tolerate not getting MM for having these features.
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victoram said:
Well techinically this phone was a real flagship at its time, lauched a little after the galaxy s5 it was the first to use the 20nm exynos chipset, it have the ISOCELL camera, 4k recording, 32gb memory, the heart rate monitor. on efficiency is only superseded by the galaxy note 4 launched several months later using the armv8 architecture, that was a real jump
the real problem of our phone it is because it was REALLY expensive at time(why so expensive i dont know), and the price only dropped years after, so even being a flagship phone, it have low priority of updates now because not so much people have this phone, why kit kat is so stable? because it was new, and samsung was caring for the phone, make it real good.
i bought one for cheap this year, i have no complaints, phone have the absolutely perfect size, i am an avid android tweaker, even tough phone runs nice even on stock configurations, the only downsides are the recent apps bugged button, sometimes it does not work, some times it works, and always respondin slowly, i got used to not using it <_>
i am really sure we will receive the marshmallow update, including the new interface.
but is really sad, that people with the first gen moto g received marshmallow about a year ago, this just show how samsung only wants to sell phones, make it "old" after some time and make you buy a new one.
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same feeling here, brother
No complains here (except for the too much expected MM update, which was one reason to choice this model).
More than 20 apps installed (G850F).
Battery drains very fast in mobile data mode (and also heats).
It cost 330€, which I found quite good in price/quality ratio.
Because of the fast evolution of technology, I never advise to buy immediately the high-end models. The prices on these will fall very fast within few months. The wait is quite compensatory...
(to give a lot of money for a smartphone its almost a steal...)
Like most on here, Im a phone junkie ?
I usually have 2 main devices that I use daily and it's been since launch that I've had a Nexus 6p.
When the 6p came out I bought one brand new (but from someone who upgraded third contract) so it kind of worried me as I didn't wanna get stuck with a blacklisted phone. Ended up selling the 6p for a decent profit, told said person to get a hold of me if any problems occurred (ie the phone getting blacklisted) , never heard back from the buyer.
Fast forward a couple years and after going threw 6 different phones just this year (25 last year) I always seem to want to flash a stock rom (when I can)
The problem is, there is always something wrong (bugs) and the phone never seems as smooth as it should be.
Right now I have a LG G5 , Microsoft 950 and Samsung Note 4 .
As I'm walking threw a local store and couple days ago, I see that they are selling brand new 6p for $299 (cdn) for the 32gb model. How could I pass this up??? Simple answer, I couldn't
So with them already being unlocked it really was a no brainier for me (especially since they are selling for around $350-400 on the used market here)
I was a tad concerned about the SD810 and 3gb of ram as those are mid-range specs these days and I'm used to the proformance of no lag and what not (iPhones have spoiled me)
Well being a Nexus and having stock software makes a HUGE difference as opposed to bloated software from OEMs.
My 6p is snappy and fast as hell and is faster than my G5 in everyday use, kills my Note 4 (which is no surprise) and crushes my 950.
To make a long post short, specs aren't always everything. If the software is optimized properly, backed with good hardware, you will have a smooth experience.
And also that the 6p is still a beast of a device almost 2 years after it's release.
Makes me not miss my iPhone as much
mistamikel said:
Like most on here, Im a phone junkie ?
I usually have 2 main devices that I use daily and it's been since launch that I've had a Nexus 6p.
When the 6p came out I bought one brand new (but from someone who upgraded third contract) so it kind of worried me as I didn't wanna get stuck with a blacklisted phone. Ended up selling the 6p for a decent profit, told said person to get a hold of me if any problems occurred (ie the phone getting blacklisted) , never heard back from the buyer.
Fast forward a couple years and after going threw 6 different phones just this year (25 last year) I always seem to want to flash a stock rom (when I can)
The problem is, there is always something wrong (bugs) and the phone never seems as smooth as it should be.
Right now I have a LG G5 , Microsoft 950 and Samsung Note 4 .
As I'm walking threw a local store and couple days ago, I see that they are selling brand new 6p for $299 (cdn) for the 32gb model. How could I pass this up??? Simple answer, I couldn't
So with them already being unlocked it really was a no brainier for me (especially since they are selling for around $350-400 on the used market here)
I was a tad concerned about the SD810 and 3gb of ram as those are mid-range specs these days and I'm used to the proformance of no lag and what not (iPhones have spoiled me)
Well being a Nexus and having stock software makes a HUGE difference as opposed to bloated software from OEMs.
My 6p is snappy and fast as hell and is faster than my G5 in everyday use, kills my Note 4 (which is no surprise) and crushes my 950.
To make a long post short, specs aren't always everything. If the software is optimized properly, backed with good hardware, you will have a smooth experience.
Makes me not miss my iPhone as much
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God dam, iPhones suck ass. Haha What was the purpose of your post btw? Just to let people know you switched back to the Nexus 6p or something?
Lol iPhone are excellent!! But I will always perfer Android over ios.
The purpose was to basically say, specs don't mean ****, lol. And that the 6p is still a hell of a phone in 2017
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Lol iPhone are excellent!! But I will always perfer Android over ios.
The purpose was to basically say, specs don't mean ****, lol. And that the 6p is still a hell of a phone in 2017
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I still think iPhones are overpriced overhyped trash and do prefer android but that's a letter of opinion. I agree that specs do t always matter because it depends how resources are used and the version of software and all. However, specs still are important and do meant **** because you Can't say that phones like the oneplus 5 aren't more powerful and faster with better battery than the 6p so specs are important but at the same time it depends how the software is used by the phone maker.
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Lol iPhone are excellent!! But I will always perfer Android over ios.
The purpose was to basically say, specs don't mean ****, lol. And that the 6p is still a hell of a phone in 2017
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Couldn't agree more. As time marches on, I'm always on the lookout for a new phone. But there's always something missing, whether it's front facing speakers, beautiful screen, a great camera or snappy response. Stock Android is the best but it's also thanks to developers for their amazing work that makes this phone great, like elemental kernel and viper arise with Dolby atmos.
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I still think iPhones are overpriced overhyped trash and do prefer android but that's a letter of opinion. I agree that specs do t always matter because it depends how resources are used and the version of software and all. However, specs still are important and do meant **** because you Can't say that phones like the oneplus 5 aren't more powerful and faster with better battery than the 6p so specs are important but at the same time it depends how the software is used by the phone maker.
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It's funny that you mention One plus.
Yes new phones today come speced out (flagships) but just how much of that is a gimmick ?
Look at OnePlus, a phone with 6gb or 8gb of ram, seems crazy right? But what's the point when Android only can utilize 4gb MAX.
Processors are absolutely killer these days, no doubt. But the more intense ones with wicked gpu are just so they can play games.
I don't game on my phone, so having the most powerful SoC isn't really important to myself.
Let's look at optimized software on top as well.
When I had my Axon7 (sd 820) and S7 edge (exynos 8890) both their companies flashships at the time, I would run benchmarks and different tests to see which one was the more powerful.
On paper the Exynos would always score higher in any test I ran, but when it came to day to day use, the Axon would less laggy and feel smoother.
And all this came down to proper software optimization and less bloat.
I'm getting the same results with this 6p vs my LG G5.
The G5 is superior on paper, but the Nexus preforms better over all due to software.
Another prime example of specs not meaning much (to me anymore) is with my laptop (convertible) vs my tablet.
I use a Acer Alpha Switch 12 for my Windows option when I'm on the go, it's got 8gb of ram, core i5 (6th gen) ect. I use it to edit vids and what not.
Now I also have the 2017 iPad (the cheapest one) which has 2gb of ram and the A10 processor (the ones used in the iPhone 6s). The crazy thing? I can edit 4k video faster and smoother on my iPad than I can on my Windows machine. Crazy right?
I used to be all about specs and would always want the latest and greatest just for the sake of having it.
But once I started to use an iPhone..... Well, spces really don't mean all that much anymore
PS Hell yes iPhones are wayyyy over priced hahahaha
You just wait until Android O is dropped, I was running O DP4 for a couple weeks and I can tell it's going to make the 6p feel new again, other than the graphical lag, which is expected for a beta, it felt smooth and refined. I'm pretty excited myself for Android O
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I still think iPhones are overpriced overhyped trash and do prefer android but that's a letter of opinion. I agree that specs do t always matter because it depends how resources are used and the version of software and all. However, specs still are important and do meant **** because you Can't say that phones like the oneplus 5 aren't more powerful and faster with better battery than the 6p so specs are important but at the same time it depends how the software is used by the phone maker.
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Yeah best cpu, gpu, one of the best screens.. Total trash. Aren't pixels the same price?
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Yeah best cpu, gpu, one of the best screens.. Total trash. Aren't pixels the same price?
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Best what?! Where are you getting this false information from? Lol
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Best what?! Where are you getting this false information from? Lol
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Look at benchmarks... It is technically a dual core, doubles pretty much everything else in single core performance (which most apps run in) and matches octocore processors in multicore. Runs pretty much everything at 60fps. I sold mine because iOS was boring but no matter how much of a fanboy you are you can't deny they perform extremely well.
I grew up and realized i didn't need to be on either side, I'm not like one of those ford vs dodge morons. That's just pathetic imo
My 6P is still a great phone. Just wish Huawei used better battery and focused more on build quality. iPhone can also be great for certain people. My Dad has the iPhone SE. I'd get bored using a iPhone but he loves it because it's less complex than Android, gets very good battery life without any tweaking and has great build quality.
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Honestly if you don't really use your phone for vr apps, the iPhone 6s+ , to me, is an absolute beast. No iPhone 7 because of the nonexistent headphone jack (such a silly move).
Would I take it over my 6p? If both were unlocked ,and brand new, I could go either way and be happy with A or B.
But the fact that I picked up a brand new 6p (from a retailer) for $300 cdn ($240usd) is one hell of a deal.
The 6p will most likely be sticking with me for a year as nothing that's come out / coming out really seems all that exciting to me.