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I've tried 4 different Capacitive Screen styluses on my Tablet S, with no screen protector, and it requires me to push much harder than on any other tablet or screen I've tried it on.
Can anyone test this out on their Tablet S for me?
Is this normal? Or is this just a defect in the one I got? Give it a try and let me know please.
Ive never tried a stylus on any other tablet than the Sony one I own so I didn't know it was just an issue on this one but yes, the performance of the stylus is horrible.
The stylus didn't work very well for me either. The Nook color I have also didn't work very well. Pretty sure the capacitive touchscreens work differently between iOS and android so this may just be a "designed for ipad" kind of issue.
The problem I have is that I used it on the Xoom and ALL the other tablets they had over at Best Buy on display, and they worked flawlessly. Some of then better than it did on the iPads on display :-( damn it SONY, I think it's just a screen sensitivity thing... if anyone figures out how to increase this, let me know.
Why do you need a stylus anyway? If you really do need a stylus, you should have gotten a tablet that supports an active stylus by either Wacom or N-Trig for actual precision, and quality when writing. I know at least the HTC Flyer and one of the Lenovo tablets support this.
ilnewsome said:
I've tried 4 different Capacitive Screen styluses on my Tablet S, with no screen protector, and it requires me to push much harder than on any other tablet or screen I've tried it on.
Can anyone test this out on their Tablet S for me?
Is this normal? Or is this just a defect in the one I got? Give it a try and let me know please.
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Hi,
A friend of mine recommended the Griffin Stylus, although he has an iPad2 he said that after trial and error with several brands, this one was near perfect.
I'm also looking into this, so that I can use the tablet as a notepad for classes - I have the apps installed already, all I have to do now is find the proper stylus.
Dunno if you guys didnt realize that there is a factory installed screen protector over the glass ( yes glass, mineral glass in fact). thats causing sensitivity issues.
If you read the manual it will tell you NOT to use a stylus. The Tablet S is not meant for anything other than your finger tip.
dberladyn said:
If you read the manual it will tell you NOT to use a stylus. The Tablet S is not meant for anything other than your finger tip.
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Not according to the link below
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666381663
I searched all the leaflets and booklets that came with the tablet and could not find any evidence supporting your claim, I also went online to the Sony Forums and nothing about Stylus Pen issues - but it's still possible, as stated, that due to design/build characteristics, stylus pens work badly with the tablet.
So far, according even to my friend's experience on the iPad and the information at the Sony Store, I'm still hoping that maybe the Sony Tablet is just picky when it comes to Stylus Pens and we just have to do our homework before buying one.
I hope that's the case, as I'm planning on using this device for classes and so far, software-wise I'm all set, so all I need now is a suitable stylus pen to write with.
I'll let you know how it goes, but please if anyone else has any successful results on this, please share as well.
Hi, Maybe I am "mis-remembering" it. I believe if you click on the Sony Help Icon it will take you to a website with various tips and information. In there it will tell you not to use anything on the screen except for your finger tips. I should confirm this for you but I am tired and lazy. Anyways, I don't see the point in using a stylus with this tablet. To me, this is the kind of tablet you leave beside the couch or your bed. In my opinion it's not a travel / work tablet.
dberladyn said:
Hi, Maybe I am "mis-remembering" it. I believe if you click on the Sony Help Icon it will take you to a website with various tips and information. In there it will tell you not to use anything on the screen except for your finger tips. I should confirm this for you but I am tired and lazy. Anyways, I don't see the point in using a stylus with this tablet. To me, this is the kind of tablet you leave beside the couch or your bed. In my opinion it's not a travel / work tablet.
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Couldn't disagree more, this tablet keeps surprising me, in a positive way.
Work is always relative, travel is just not so as this seems more and more as THE partner to have, but opinions come and go, of course.
As for facts, check the image below - and hopefully the stylus drama dies here.
Griffin stylus pen, GC16040 - 4.3" length, in an orange box.
I'm still to put the screen protector, will report back as it is done.
wickwire said:
Couldn't disagree more, this tablet keeps surprising me, in a positive way.
Work is always relative, travel is just not so as this seems more and more as THE partner to have, but opinions come and go, of course.
As for facts, check the image below - and hopefully the stylus drama dies here.
Griffin stylus pen, GC16040 - 4.3" length, in an orange box.
I'm still to put the screen protector, will report back as it is done.
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I picked up the Griffin stylus GC16040 and it isn't working well with mine with the Sony screen protector on. I still had to give in a good amount of pressure for it to work.
Has anyone tried the stylus sold on the Sony store website?
I'm going to assume it'll work because Sony is selling it, and it says specifically that it is for Sony tablets. I'm going to place an order to try it out.
Yh
Evo 4G63 said:
I picked up the Griffin stylus GC16040 and it isn't working well with mine with the Sony screen protector on. I still had to give in a good amount of pressure for it to work.
Has anyone tried the stylus sold on the Sony store website?
I'm going to assume it'll work because Sony is selling it, and it says specifically that it is for Sony tablets. I'm going to place an order to try it out.
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I got my screen protector from amazon today - not the official sony one, and another set of stylus pens - Groov-e, GV-CP2
Both stylus packs work ok, but with screen protector I do have to apply some little pressure, but I have to say that for me, it's basically the same as when writing with normal pen and paper...
I do notice a slightly more diffuse image due to the protector, and the griffin stylus is alot softer to use than the Groov-e ones.
Both work ok, but the Groov-e just seemed slightly rougher, when typing I get a subtle scraping sound...
I also noticed that not all apps behave the same with this, personally I liked genie writing best, whereas hand writing HD didn't feel so precise in capturing my strokes.
Sample 2 in attach.
wickwire said:
Yh
I got my screen protector from amazon today - not the official sony one, and another set of stylus pens - Groov-e, GV-CP2
Both stylus packs work ok, but with screen protector I do have to apply some little pressure, but I have to say that for me, it's basically the same as when writing with normal pen and paper...
I do notice a slightly more diffuse image due to the protector, and the griffin stylus is alot softer to use than the Groov-e ones.
Both work ok, but the Groov-e just seemed slightly rougher, when typing I get a subtle scraping sound...
I also noticed that not all apps behave the same with this, personally I liked genie writing best, whereas hand writing HD didn't feel so precise in capturing my strokes.
Sample 2 in attach.
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Which screen protector did you get exactly?
Drawing in supernote is the same with your finger or stylus, not great. It misses some inputs when drawing. I'm sure with future updates it will get better. I'm using a targus stylus.
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Stylus on Sony Tablet S
I bought these TOUCH SCREEN STYLUS FOR Huawei IDEOS S7 Slim Tablet
on ebay and tested them on my Sony Tablet S and Galaxy S phone.
It works 100x better on my galaxy s phone than on the sony tablet.
They do work on the sony but the sensitivity isn't there, a fair amount of pressure is needed in order for it to respond.
I'm also interested to see if anyone else gets a better result with the targus stylus that sony sells.
I created a short video to show the problem. Go to youtube and search for AntMoore23, go on my channel and watch.
I think for the Sony it has a special resin that allows the screen to have a better black response. I think maybe that's the reason why the stylus response is bad. Just something to keep in mind.
I use a griffin stylus (GC17125) with sketchbook pro every day and it work just fine.
I also tried to build my own stylus with a sponge and some other crap (try a search on youtube) but without success.
did anyone try using the Stylus used in the video here, they call it a Wacom Active Digitizer
http://youtu.be/oty4ukjSIjg
The active digitizer is not the stylus, it's part of the screen technology inside the tablet, similar to the Galaxy Note.
Just, within the hour, received my Ultra. I have not yet even turned it on! I have it charging. I use at present the SGNote 3 and the difference in quality is immediate. I owned the original Xperia Z and the quality of that was simply superb, why I bought the Note 3 I have no idea however.
So pleased to again just hold a device that feels so well made and worth its value in terms of cost also being a flagship of that group. When I hold the Note 3 now...........The Note 3 is a superb phablet but simply lacks that feel of being a flag ship device. I am so pleased to hold the Ultra and experience that feeling of class. Of purchasing something worthy of my cash and its title.
I will post again latter when I have charged the Ultra and turned it on. I am praying I have made the right choice in changing over and the Sony will perform well without the software bugs I have with my Note 3?
Kind regards to one and all.
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
Just, within the hour, received my Ultra. I have not yet even turned it on! I have it charging. I use at present the SGNote 3 and the difference in quality is immediate. I owned the original Xperia Z and the quality of that was simply superb, why I bought the Note 3 I have no idea however.
So pleased to again just hold a device that feels so well made and worth its value in terms of cost also being a flagship of that group. When I hold the Note 3 now...........The Note 3 is a superb phablet but simply lacks that feel of being a flag ship device. I am so pleased to hold the Ultra and experience that feeling of class. Of purchasing something worthy of my cash and its title.
I will post again latter when I have charged the Ultra and turned it on. I am praying I have made the right choice in changing over and the Sony will perform well without the software bugs I have with my Note 3?
Kind regards to one and all.
Ryland
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I came from a note 2 and never going back to samsung. It does everything that samsung does but better and the quality of the Zu is just amazing. I feel my money was well spent. Instead of buying a big piece of plastic.
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I came from a note 2 and never going back to samsung. It does everything that samsung does but better and the quality of the Zu is just amazing. I feel my money was well spent. Instead of buying a big piece of plastic.
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I can fully understand your sentiments.
My major gripe with Samsung is the materials used in the construction. The Note 3 is one of the most expensive phones on the market. In terms of Android I think it may well be THE most expensive? If other brands like HTC, Apple and Sony can produce top spec phones AND be constructed from quality materials, why cant Samsung. My Note 3 has plastic leather back with plastic pretend stitching along with plastic chrome sides etc? I am amazed Samsung didn't use cling film for the screen! Its a missed opportunity as the Note 3 when bug free works very well indeed.
Presentation has an awful lot to do with how we feel about what we own. For top price models I think it only reasonable to expect top quality materials and finish. Still, Samsung's loss and Sony's gain.
It is also very reassuring to own a device that is NOT region locked and to that end I am able to use it all over the globe unlike the Note 3 that I can only use within Europe! Don't set me off on that one.
Just waiting for them to charge then I can play..............I just have to start to act my age! Scrub that what an awful concept...yuk..
Ryland
Ex Note 2 user here too. I really was never bother by the plastic to be honest although holding the naked Ultra just feels amazing! Note 4 would have to be more than amazing for me to go back. Besides, knowing samsung they will add .18" again to its size to make it just short of 5.9 so it will take a few more generations to get to the Ultra size lol
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Ex Note 2 user here too. I really was never bother by the plastic to be honest although holding the naked Ultra just feels amazing! Note 4 would have to be more than amazing for me to go back. Besides, knowing samsung they will add .18" again to its size to make it just short of 5.9 so it will take a few more generations to get to the Ultra size lol
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I bought the Note 1 the day of release only to sell it some months later because I could not live with its pocket unfriendly size. I recall writing in my Amazon review that a phone that size will never sell in any numbers.....Talk about dropping a brick! The Note series has sold in the millions.
The quality of the Note 1 was far far better than my Note 3. I didn't purchase the Note 2 but understand the general build of the Note 2 was also superior to the Note 3? Enough of the past and the plastics.
I am very pleased with the quality of the screen and the speed of this appears to me just a smooth and fast as my note 3. I think the 3GB of RAM on the Note is needed to run the UI. The Sony is more vanilla in UI and I prefer that.
The colour scheme on the Sony is also beautiful. I prefer the Sony screen to the Samsung though this is choice, both screens are simply superb.
No sooner I turned the Sony on that it updated to 4.3 OS and I then spent some time downloading my apps etc.
This IS one beast of a phablet. I have zero idea how I am going to live with the size but I am going to make ever effort! The SBH52 will help so I don't have to keep taking the Ultra out of pockets. I had to laugh this afternoon as I cant find a single pair of trousers that this beastie will fit into.
I like the SBH52 even though it came without a charger and no instructions at all. Soon found what I wanted on the Sony site.
Early days to write much more. One tiny thing I have noticed is that Sony have made the icons smaller on the screen? I was surprised at that. I would have preferred larger icons.
I hope it proves reliable. I have it housed in a very nice real leather flip case holder. Holder has one small snag in that no space is cut out for the charging mini USB port so I have to remove the Ultra from the case in order to charge it or down load things to my PC. I will see if I can cut out a small space myself tomorrow.
So..........So far all good. Wonderful quality of materials, very different from the Samsung experience. Both good phablets in their own way.
Will be nice to be able to use my phone again in the rain etc.
Regards,
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
I hope it proves reliable. I have it housed in a very nice real leather flip case holder. Holder has one small snag in that no space is cut out for the charging mini USB port so I have to remove the Ultra from the case in order to charge it or down load things to my PC. I will see if I can cut out a small space myself tomorrow.
So..........So far all good. Wonderful quality of materials, very different from the Samsung experience. Both good phablets in their own way.
Will be nice to be able to use my phone again in the rain etc.
Regards,
Ryland
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I recommend leaving your case as is.
=Cut out a space for the mag-dock. It charges slightly faster and it wont wear the O-rings out from opening and closing them a couple times perday.. that way it will continue to protect agains dust and water.
hamdogg said:
I recommend leaving your case as is.
=Cut out a space for the mag-dock. It charges slightly faster and it wont wear the O-rings out from opening and closing them a couple times perday.. that way it will continue to protect agains dust and water.
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Thank you for the kind and informative reply. There are oddly enough already cut outs for the dock. I have not purchased a dock though as I have read here that the phone does not fit a dock while still in its case only without a case? This would mean every time I need to charge the Ultra I would need to remove it from its cover.
Second point I need to connect my Ultra to my PC to update my documents etc. Is there another way, wifi for eg, of doing this?
I notice that inside the covers of my past Xperia Z that inside the tiny flaps was a white membrane. This was there to show if water had passed the flap and void the warranty? There is no such white membrane inside the flaps on the Ultra. is this correct?
Thanks for your help and support, I appreciate it.
Regards,
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
Thank you for the kind and informative reply. There are oddly enough already cut outs for the dock. I have not purchased a dock though as I have read here that the phone does not fit a dock while still in its case only without a case? This would mean every time I need to charge the Ultra I would need to remove it from its cover.
Second point I need to connect my Ultra to my PC to update my documents etc. Is there another way, wifi for eg, of doing this?
I notice that inside the covers of my past Xperia Z that inside the tiny flaps was a white membrane. This was there to show if water had passed the flap and void the warranty? There is no such white membrane inside the flaps on the Ultra. is this correct?
Thanks for your help and support, I appreciate it.
Regards,
Ryland
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You can get a cable that connects through the mag -dock. Don't need the actual dock.
You can use wifi direct to connect, but that will depend on your computer's hardware. Loads of apps and software to do this through IP address if you need. The only reason I use my Usb is to update firmware using an Ftp and flash tool.
Ryland Johnson said:
Thank you for the kind and informative reply. There are oddly enough already cut outs for the dock. I have not purchased a dock though as I have read here that the phone does not fit a dock while still in its case only without a case? This would mean every time I need to charge the Ultra I would need to remove it from its cover.
Second point I need to connect my Ultra to my PC to update my documents etc. Is there another way, wifi for eg, of doing this?
I notice that inside the covers of my past Xperia Z that inside the tiny flaps was a white membrane. This was there to show if water had passed the flap and void the warranty? There is no such white membrane inside the flaps on the Ultra. is this correct?
Thanks for your help and support, I appreciate it.
Regards,
Ryland
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I highly recommend a dock. You will be so sick of opening the USB port every time you're going to charge it, and you'll also wear the rubber seals out (i guess). It's also nice to dock it on the nightstand at night and watch tv shows, like it's a tiny Sony TV.
You can transfer files wirelessly by using an app. AirDroid is very good, but that's more of a full fledged manager that you can transfer big files, delete files, send SMS' and even navigate through the filesystem with. I installed Pushbullet last week and it's an amazing little app. It's so easy to send links, photos, files etc. to and from a computer or even another device. I highly recommend it.
Welcome to the Z Ultra forms, @Ryland Johnson !
I remember you from the Z forum (was contemplating buying the Z)..
The Z Ultra is indeed big, but just use it for a month or so, every other phone will seem tiny then
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warfareonly said:
Welcome to the Z Ultra forms, @Ryland Johnson !
I remember you from the Z forum (was contemplating buying the Z)..
The Z Ultra is indeed big, but just use it for a month or so, every other phone will seem tiny then
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Agreed...
Especially compare it with ip4/4s...
ZU makes them looks like a lil boys phone...
hamdogg said:
You can get a cable that connects through the mag -dock. Don't need the actual dock.
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Thank you all for the kind information.
Hamdogg, may I ask you a little more about this cable you mention? Any links or other information would again be appreciated.
many thanks,
Ryland
ronald_loulan said:
Agreed...
Especially compare it with ip4/4s...
ZU makes them looks like a lil boys phone...
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I was considering the Apple iPhone 5S. I know I know, going over to the 'dark side' The points that prevented me where price, its double the cost of the Ultra, not able to use any sort of expandable memory, not water resistant plus possibly the OS and UI? I wanted to try the newer Apple to see if I liked it any more than I did my first Apple. I have to write that the Apple is a quality product with quality back up. The packaging alone always pleases me when I purchase something Apple. I am just not an Apple OS fan.
Sony are getting there again. I think, I don't know, that some large companies like Sony sat on their laurels for too long and just depended on customer loyalty. Not possible to do that for many years. Pleased to see that Sony are moving in the right direction BUT still have a tad way to go.
A classic example of this is the SBH52. I purchased this with the Ultra. No instructions nor wall charger in the box? Even the packaging is rather cheap and cheerful. Apple just don't do that. Even the boxes Apple products come in is quality cardboard !! This is not a joke, all aspects of marketing need to be spot on to improve or even hold onto ones market place.
Remember HTC? Hardly see a single sale in this country today yet only 5 years ago it was nearly all HTC.
Apple have made a science out of how they sell and their market research is second to non plus their customer satisfaction and relations are superb. Of course there will always be the exception to any rule.
I like what Sony are doing. As I wrote above I think in some areas they have a way to go, they appear to be a getting there though. IF Sony can maintain this trend I think Sony will again start to show profits and the devices they produce will again reach the heights they did in the past.
Now Pioneer have ceased making TV's Sony and Panasonic make some top quality sets. Samsung and LG outsell them all BUT for how long?
Samsung is starting to slip with things like region lock on their phones. I for one will not purchase another Samsung until they drop this absurd behaviour.
I had to factory reset my Ultra last night after spending 12 hours setting it up just as I wanted it. The screen froze and no matter what I did it would not unfreeze. After turning the device on and off several times I was able to get into the settings and reset to factory settings. For around 30 minutes I thought it was going to have to be returned! The programme that caused the problem was 'talk back'.
One point that has concerned me is after a complete factory reset I noticed today that the files I had downloaded from my PC into the memory of the Ultra where STILL THERE! This is bad news as had I returned the Ultra those files would have been open to access. I was under the illusion that a factory reset would reset the phone back to a virgin state. This is not at all the case?
Very early days though and some teething problems can some times occur.
Ryland
warfareonly said:
Welcome to the Z Ultra forms, @Ryland Johnson !
I remember you from the Z forum (was contemplating buying the Z)..
The Z Ultra is indeed big, but just use it for a month or so, every other phone will seem tiny then
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Hi. What an experience that was! No matter how hard I tried to explain the difference between water proof and water resistant some fellow posters just could not accept that their poor Xperia Z's where unsuitable for deep sea diving. The way Sony market the Xperia Z was, in my opinion, very poor. In the manual Sony made it clear with large diagrams that the Z could not be used in sea water nor swimming pool water YET their own advert had the Z being used in a bloomin swimming pool!
I gave up on that subject and just laughed at some of the things people did with their poor phones. Did you see the clips of them being cooked in chocolate and soup etc....Phone had more artificial intelligence than some owners had brains. I am still totally baffled as to why one would take any phone into a shower? How does one wash? To what aim would one need a phone while in the shower? Never mind.
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
Thank you all for the kind information.
Hamdogg, may I ask you a little more about this cable you mention? Any links or other information would again be appreciated.
many thanks,
Ryland
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http://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Charging-Cable-Xperia-Ultra/dp/B00FF9P1T6
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http://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Charging-Cable-Xperia-Ultra/dp/B00FF9P1T6
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I didn't know such a cable existed! Thanks so much for the heads up. I have just placed my order with Amazon.
Many thanks, :good:
Ryland
I came from many phones
last 2 are S4 LTE , Note 3 LTE
Note 3 LTE has better camera and better screen brightness & whiteness
including some interactive sensors
However is need ZU big screen !!!
next ..... may be Note 8.4 Pro (if it has) / Tab 8.4 Pro / Note 10.1 2014
(use with bluetooth headset)
Well folks after 4 days ownership and use I am so far a very happy bunny. Providing I understand I have purchased a phablet and not a tablet nor a mobile phone but the best of both worlds I am content. The SBH52 makes a very good companion device. We have long very hot summers here so where I am going to keep the table while walking about in shorts and T-shirt, I have no idea though? I do like a challenge.:good:
Ryland
Can it be easily rooted on the latest firmware? Has the audio lag, touchscreen and lag issues been resolved? When was the last time the uk model has had a firmware update?
Is it true the micro sd card is read only on this tablet? Can file browsers like astro file browser acess the micro sd card ok?
Does the speaker placement cause any issues? Especially if you are going the be holding the tablet there most of the time.
How long does it take to charge the tablet?
Sorry for the long questions but i need to be sure that this is the right tablet for me, Samsung don't offer 32gb model in the uk so I'm really interested in the Z2 because of this.
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Can it be easily rooted on the latest firmware?
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Yes. I used this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792056 and it worked flawlessly. Rooted in just over a minute.
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Has the audio lag, touchscreen and lag issues been resolved?
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I've not seen any audio lag. The touchscreen isn't the most responsive I've ever used, but is fine with fingers. Stylii are a different issue - I've not found one that works well. I've not seen any lag whilst using the tablet (except for the odd microstutter when Google play decides to update everything at once). I updated to the latest firmware as soon as I got it, so I don't know what these were like before.
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When was the last time the uk model has had a firmware update?
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17.1.1.A.0.402 is the latest, released at the end of May.
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Is it true the micro sd card is read only on this tablet? Can file browsers like astro file browser acess the micro sd card ok?
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All KitKat devices restrict apps writing to the SD (Astro for example would only be able to read the SD). By default you can only write to the SD by plugging into a computer and copying files across. However, if you're rooted, you can just install SD Fix (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix) and get the pre-KitKat behaviour.
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Does the speaker placement cause any issues? Especially if you are going the be holding the tablet there most of the time.
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They're a little low, but the tablet is so light that you're not likely to be gripping it hard enough to distort the sound. Personally I tend to hold it one handed in landscape like I would a book, with my thumb on the front of bottom edge and my fingers splayed out on the back. This way the speakers are completely unobstructed.
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How long does it take to charge the tablet?
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I've not charged from empty, but using the charger it comes with seems pretty quick. I can put it on charge, go make a cup of coffee, get back and it will have gone up by a percent or two. I bought the magnetic dock, and just leave it there when I'm not using it. The battery easily gets me through a day of heavy use, and when I'm at home it just sits on the dock.
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Sorry for the long questions but i need to be sure that this is the right tablet for me, Samsung don't offer 32gb model in the uk so I'm really interested in the Z2 because of this.
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I had exactly the same thoughts (also in the UK). 32GB is the way to go. I've had mine about a month now. I've installed pretty much every app/game I'm going to need, and the internal memory is about 80% full.
Some more thoughts:
Pros
This thing is so thin and light that I forget I'm carrying it in my bag. For me, that's a huge bonus over other tablets, and more than makes up for its flaws. It's noticeably easier to hold than an iPad Air over long periods.
Sony's interface is very close to stock Android, and most bloatware (of which there is very little) can be uninstalled.
Waterproofing is nice to have. I thought it was a gimmick at first (does anyone actually use these in the bath?), but I use mine to display recipes whilst cooking, and it's nice to not have to worry about splashes and spills.
Vibration - it lets me know that I've turned it on. I wouldn't miss this if it were missing, but it's nice to have.
NFC. I love NFC. I have a tag on the bottom of my universal remote; I use the remote to turn on my Hi-Fi, swipe the tag across the tablet, and the tablet connects over Apt-X Bluetooth and starts Spotify. Magic!
Dual-shock compatibility. It just works (you need an OTG cable for the initial pairing, after that it's Bluetooth), and is very slick.
Cons
Screen resolution isn't as nice as other tablets. This isn't noticeable when used normally, though if it's closer to your face (e.g. you're lying down using it in bed), you can see the pixels.
The waterproof flaps on the SD and USB connectors feel a bit flimsy. I'd highly recommend the magnetic doc, or a connector adapter such as the Magnector-X for charging, so that you don't have to open the port covers.
It's a fingerprint magnet (but you can just wash it clean, because it's waterproof).
The IR blaster seems to have a very narrow "beam" so is a bit tricky to use. There is also a ~1 second delay between pressing the onscreen button and the IR signal being sent. I've given up on using it, but I'm not sure how much use I'd have gotten from it anyway.
I'd go to a store and have a play if I were you. Try and find one that's not got a huge security lock on it; I've seen this on display in some stores with a metal cage around it, or a huge self retracting security cable, which makes it hard to get a feel for how it would be to hold.
i know about the screen resolution, it's not as great compared samsung note 2014 but the Z2 has the advantage of more memory space, i think that is a good trade off imo.
i tend to hold my tablet in portrait mode so the speaker placement is a issue for me, i like that it's light so i can sit down comfortably with it for long periods, i have the galaxy note 10.1 2012 model and it's quite heavy compared to current models out there now, especially for long periods of use.
that is a bonus that the tablet supports the dual shock 3 out of the box, on other devices you have to root to use the controller wirelessly.
the waterproof flaps you say are a issue, so if you are using it in a water environment wouldn't that cause problems?
the galaxy note 10.1 2012 is just as bad when it comes to finger prints but it can be easily cleaned.
i didn't know it has vibration feedback, no website lists this feature, so thanks for telling me that.
samsung is king of bloat, that is good that there is minimal it saves me having to remove it all when i set it up lol.
battery life sounds good, maybe even better than the galaxy note 2012, quite frequently i'm charging the device during the day while using it. it could be because the device is getting old though.
i use my stylus a lot on my galaxy tablet, can you offer me some feedback if you have used one on this tablet? that is good to hear that it's easily rooted.
and thanks a lot for the reply.
I am very happy with my Z2 tablet.
I've not had any issues with the waterproof flaps. One covers the microsd (and sim) slot and the other covers the usb port. If you get a wireless charger, you won't find yourself opening the flaps often. They stay in place and have not opened by themselves. I don't think you'll have problems with waterproofness.
I personally find that the screen keeps quite clean. It's a MAJOR improvement in this respect compared to my previous generation Xperia Tablet Z.
I've tried using the Z2 Tablet with a stylus (Lynktec Rechargeable Apex Fine Point Active Stylus). It's been disappointing. Writing is nowhere as precise as with the in-built stylus on my Samsung Galaxy Note 3. If using a stylus with my tablet were important to me, I would have gone with a Galaxy Note tablet.
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i know about the screen resolution, it's not as great compared samsung note 2014 but the Z2 has the advantage of more memory space, i think that is a good trade off imo.
i tend to hold my tablet in portrait mode so the speaker placement is a issue for me, i like that it's light so i can sit down comfortably with it for long periods, i have the galaxy note 10.1 2012 model and it's quite heavy compared to current models out there now, especially for long periods of use.
that is a bonus that the tablet supports the dual shock 3 out of the box, on other devices you have to root to use the controller wirelessly.
the waterproof flaps you say are a issue, so if you are using it in a water environment wouldn't that cause problems?
the galaxy note 10.1 2012 is just as bad when it comes to finger prints but it can be easily cleaned.
i didn't know it has vibration feedback, no website lists this feature, so thanks for telling me that.
samsung is king of bloat, that is good that there is minimal it saves me having to remove it all when i set it up lol.
battery life sounds good, maybe even better than the galaxy note 2012, quite frequently i'm charging the device during the day while using it. it could be because the device is getting old though.
i use my stylus a lot on my galaxy tablet, can you offer me some feedback if you have used one on this tablet? that is good to hear that it's easily rooted.
and thanks a lot for the reply.
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i tend to hold my tablet in portrait mode so the speaker placement is a issue for me
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I don't think you'll have any problems then. The top and bottom bezels (as viewed in landscape) are large enough that if held in portrait mode you're very unlikely to ever cover the speakers. Assuming you're right handed and holding the tablet with your left (this is how I read newspapers and magazines on mine), one speaker will be about an inch diagonally down and to the right of the base of your thumb, and the other will be well out of the way at what is now the top of the tablet.
It also worth pointing out that the tablet allows screen rotation in all directions (is this true of all tablets? My phone doesn't do this by default), so if you do ever find that the speaker placement is an issue, you can just rotate it 180°.
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I've not had any issues with the waterproof flaps. One covers the microsd (and sim) slot and the other covers the usb port. If you get a wireless charger, you won't find yourself opening the flaps often. They stay in place and have not opened by themselves. I don't think you'll have problems with waterproofness.
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Agreed. I should have been clearer when I listed the flaps as a con in my post above. I've got no concerns about their waterproofness. My concern is that if I was opening the USB cover daily to charge the tablet it might become weakened or damaged, which is why I bought the magnetic chargers. The port covers feel quite delicate when opened, but very secure when closed.
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I've tried using the Z2 Tablet with a stylus (Lynktec Rechargeable Apex Fine Point Active Stylus). It's been disappointing. Writing is nowhere as precise as with the in-built stylus on my Samsung Galaxy Note 3. If using a stylus with my tablet were important to me, I would have gone with a Galaxy Note tablet.
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Same here. I've tried a DAGi 701 stylus (which is passive). Sketching is doable, but the display doesn't seem sensitive enough for writing. I hope that this is a software thing, though even if it were fixed, the extra features of the Note series such as the hover and palm detection would make it much more suited to note taking. I see the Z2 as more of a media consumption, rather than creation, device.
ok, thanks for the feedback guys, ill take all your replies in consideration when deciding, i use the black rubber end stylus, the one you mentioned is similar to the stylus that is included with the note 10.1, but it seems that no matter what stylus i will use i think i'll get the same results which is a shame really.
Anyone know of any good headsets? I got the white Vigica one from Amazon but the buttons kept getting smushed making the volume go all the way up or all the way down.
If you're rocking one, which one?
I have the view master by mattle and it works perfect. Any questions just ask
purchased at target for 25$
Edit: no volume button smashing, but they are easily accessible to change volume if needed
Headsets
Hello,
There's an unfortunate truth about the Nexus 6... It has a 6" screen. The majority of headsets are being geared towards 5.5" and smaller. I've purchased and used 3 headsets with my Nexus 6 though, so I can share some experience there.
The first headset was the Blisstime Google Cardboard
One of the cheapest headsets on the market
Comes with foam to cover the uncomfortable cardboard bits
Solid quality cardboard
Comes with (admittedly useless) strap
DOES NOT FIT NEXUS 6.
As mentioned, I had to cut out additionally pieces of cardboard and tape here and there to make my Nexus 6 fit.
Second headset was another Cardboard one. IAMCARDBOARD 6"
Fits the phone perfectly
Allows a lot of light in because of it's wide form factor
The poor design of the front of the unit where the camera hole was cut out allows the cardboard to crush inwards within a few weeks of use
The Blisstime headset, although too small gave a much more immersive experience. I attribute this to the closer distance of the screen to my eyes, the much smaller amount of light let through and the foam to allow comfortable use.
The last headset I purchased was the IncrediSonic M700 VUE Series
Relatively comfortable
Good quality strap that holds the headset in a convenient location
Included remote works as cardboard magnet (trigger) (NOTE if you're trying to figure this out, it's the select button that works as the trigger.)
Overall, the high quality plastic doesn't quite make up for the fact that it's the exact same experience I will get with a $12 cardboard. There is nothing more immersive about this headset than the Blisstime or IAMCARDBOARD. In fact, as a developer, I don't even touch this headset anymore.
I purchased it with the sole intent of having a more attractive looking display unit; which I think it will do.
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I have the view master by mattle and it works perfect. Any questions just ask
purchased at target for 25$
Edit: no volume button smashing, but they are easily accessible to change volume if needed
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I second the Viewmaster. The phone won't fit with a case (Ringke slim), but that's the only downside I've noticed.
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I second the Viewmaster. The phone won't fit with a case (Ringke slim), but that's the only downside I've noticed.
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Glad you added that. Doesn't fit with unicorn beetle either.
I purchased the following Chinese one for $10 from Aliexpress. I'm happy with it and would highly recommend it.... especially for the price. Its based of of the original cardboard with the magnet but it works great with the nexus 6. They ship from China so it takes 2-3 weeks to arrive but it works great... "Quake for Google Cardboard" alone was worth it for me.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/RITECH-II-Head-Mount-Plastic-Version-3D-VR-Virtual-Reality-Glasses-Google-Cardboard-3D-Movies-3D/32344284284.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2_79_78_77_82_80_62,searchweb201644_0,searchweb201560_5
I got my cardboard 2.0 clone from aliexpress for ~$7.
If you have a cardboard one, you can cut out the volume and power button space so it doesnt interfere when you strap it in, thats what I did and its fine.
I had to customize mine with the google webapp provided. Else things were out of focus and I saw double. Now anything that shows VR through cardboard settings is fine, but standard videos downloaded from web are still pretty messed up when looking at range, I guess they are made just for oculus' settings?
I just use the free one Google gives away. Or get a free one from Verizon.
http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/11/get-a-free-star-wars-edition-google-cardboard/#.hh5vbe9:kzXR
I'm interested in finding one that works well with the N6 as well.
+1 for Viewmaster. Readily available for $20. Use a bluetooth headset. I like that you have to hold it (not head mounted) as I don't want my son walking around the house with a headset on his head.
So as the title says, I have both the 23 plus and the 23 ultra. I also had a s21 ultra.
So that given, I have days that I play very long hours of Diablo Immortal on my phone, holding it in my hands. We're taking 8-10 hours at times
With the 21 ultra and the s23 plus it isn't so bad, as it had rounded corners. With the s23 ultra it's a bit more uncomfortable because the corners are squared off, so it ends up digging into my palm after awhile making it uncomfortable.
So I'm curious if anyone else with an s23 ultra plays long hours of gaming. If so what do you do about when it becomes uncomfortable in your hands? Other than the obvious which is at that point take a break, or use a control of some sort.
Ideas are welcome, and thanks in advance
I don't play, but it comes to my mind as a suggestion to put a massive case with similar angles.
Hi, i play genshin long hours using s23 ultra and lots of PS2 emulator games.
I use Gamesir X3 Pro gamepad. Its really good and comfortable for me.
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I don't play, but it comes to my mind as a suggestion to put a massive case with similar angles.
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This is EXACTLY why I post here. I never even thought they had a case with round corners, let alone even thinking of it.
Did a quick search on amazing and they do indeed have them.
They even have slim ones that curve ever so slightly. I think that will be enough of a round edge to cut the sharpness of the corner.
For the life of me I don't know why they made it so square, because the 21 ultra isn't that way. I get the square design from back in the s10 ultra days, but come on. It's like the curved edges, people are so n over the curves, they would rather have flat, at least the majority of people would.
I think in my looking around, the sharpness of the corners was one of the complaints about the 23 ultra.
Thanks for the advice/input/idea, I appreciate it greatly.
I'm torn between these two cases
Anqrp Mist Series Designed for Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra Case, [Support Wireless Charging] Slim Silicone Case for S23 Ultra 6.8 inch, Black https://a.co/d/gGNrR9u
Spigen Tough Armor Designed for Galaxy S23 Ultra Case (2023) - Black https://a.co/d/38evxaW
I'm honestly leaning towards the Anqrp
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Hi, i play genshin long hours using s23 ultra and lots of PS2 emulator games.
I use Gamesir X3 Pro gamepad. Its really good and comfortable for me.
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Yeah, I did a search on those. There are multiple companies that make similar ones, a LOT of them don't support "with case on".
I did find one that advertised "case friendly" and I ordered one. It's called gamevice flex.
I currently use an Xbox controller and bt but I think this will work better.
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Yeah, I did a search on those. There are multiple companies that make similar ones, a LOT of them don't support "with case on".
I did find one that advertised "case friendly" and I ordered one. It's called gamevice flex.
I currently use an Xbox controller and bt but I think this will work better.
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Ah I see, hope it works well for you.
Personally, i prefer gaming with no case on bcs i want the cooling pad on Gamesir X3 Pro to directly touch the phone's body. More effective cooling. Just my opinion tho