[Q] Lollipop for Asus TF103c? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all
Just got myself an Asus TF103C and have been looking at other posts here like http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/asus-transformer-pad-tf103c-tablet-root-t2802995/page5
which helped me to root it.
However I have been reading elsewhere that perhaps a custom Lollipop ROM would help things work a bit smoother.
I have found a couple of pages which claim to outline a method taken from the pages of XDA (although I am so far unable to find it on here) and linking to file downloads that seem a bit suspect:
http://www.rom-lollipop.org/mp3-0/asus-transformer-pad-tf103c-6409.html
and here:
http://lollipop500.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/upgradeupdate-transformer-pad-tf103c-to.html
Can anyone please advise me if these are likely to be legitimate or otherwise?
Many Thanks!

Northwinds said:
Hi all
Just got myself an Asus TF103C and have been looking at other posts here like http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/asus-transformer-pad-tf103c-tablet-root-t2802995/page5
which helped me to root it.
However I have been reading elsewhere that perhaps a custom Lollipop ROM would help things work a bit smoother.
I have found a couple of pages which claim to outline a method taken from the pages of XDA (although I am so far unable to find it on here) and linking to file downloads that seem a bit suspect:
http://www.rom-lollipop.org/mp3-0/asus-transformer-pad-tf103c-6409.html
and here:
http://lollipop500.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/upgradeupdate-transformer-pad-tf103c-to.html
Can anyone please advise me if these are likely to be legitimate or otherwise?
Many Thanks!
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I think it's a fake. the first link promote a payment for download a file, the second is removed.
BTW I'm interest too to use a different room for my tf103c, but it seem that no ROM are available. I wonder if someway could disprove me.
Kind regards,
Luigi

I also think that it is a bogus rom.
I would like to get a new rom as well . I have the device rooted, but have been unable to get flash to work. I also cannot mount network locations. I think a new rom would lift the limitations set by this Asus rom.
PS- I have the Zenfone with a similar interface . I like it on my zenfone 5, not so much on this tablet.
Sent from my K010 using XDA Free mobile app

I'm also interested in getting stock Lollipop on my tf103c (k010). I don't know what asus did to make kitkat so buggy, I don't remember it crashing apps as much as the asus load does.
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I will like to have a custom rom as well. How would I go about porting one? I will love to learn on how to develop one.
I will look arround XDA although I have no idea where to start.

first you need to unlock bootloader, because you cannot flash custom kernel, only kernel signed using asus keys.
if you dont need other kernel for your rom, you must flash system partition, with root you have acess to system, but how d you want to flash system when you running another yet? i mean, you can acces system only when phone is running this system, becuse fastoot and recovery accepts only asus signed files.

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Updating Hyundai A7HD using an .img file?

I've been using Android for quite some time on my phone but im used to an update-process involving archive-files on CWM.
Now i just bought myself a new Tablet by Hyundai digital, the A7HD and the update is supplied in .img format.
to be precise:
RKS7S01_A7HD_20120420.img
and now im not entirely sure how to flash this, since all instructions come in chinese/korean and i am unable to understand them.
About the System itself:
Allwinner A10 CPU
with Android 4.0.3
Kernel version 3.0.8
You should check http://www.flashmyandroid.com/forum/showthread.php?730-ROM-Hyundai-A7-HD-Firmware-ICS-4-03-20120420/ . Although you have to register.
Actually, im already a member there.
See the fourth post in the thread you linked me to?
Thats me.
Same Username i use on XDA, as well.
Im the one who discovered the "Safe Mode"-boot and the hidden Recovery Menu on the A7HD.
Lol, didn't notice about it. A7HD's community is not as large as I'd thought to, but is growing. In htcmania we've got custom ROM's already by a begginer cook!
Is it called Onix 0.2.1 by any chance?
If so... Thats the Firmware i am using.
And its quite a good start, cant wait to see what he will end up doing with it.
PS: I managed to install Firmwares onto my A7HD now.
Once i found out how to do it, i wrote a Tutorial, so everyone who doesn't know how to, can find out how i did it here:
http://www.flashmyandroid.com/forum/showthread.php?838-TUT-How-to-update-the-Hyundai-A7HD
Yes it is. It's quite good, though there are some bugs that came from the original one.
For example, the change from portrait to landscape with no reason when changing from one app to another.
Henxu said:
Yes it is. It's quite good, though there are some bugs that came from the original one.
For example, the change from portrait to landscape with no reason when changing from one app to another.
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Strange, I dont have this problem either on stock or onix rom ... I think it could be hardware malfunction

[Q] newbie here

i have a maylong m270 tablet can anyone plz tell me,how to gain acesess to root,i cant find anything on this tablet,it is android 4.0.4 the kernal is 3.0.8 the build number is rockchip imm76d,any help would be very appreciated much .. thanks rod
Hi, if you searched for it on Google and XDA (as I just did to check), it likely has not been rooted yet. Sorry! The best thing you could do is to google search and search XDA every week or so, maybe something will turn up soon!
I might get one of these, as they're $100 on Target's website for Cyber Monday.
Not enough people have them for someone to invest the time into rooting, but a common root method might work...
M-270
pkopalek said:
I might get one of these, as they're $100 on Target's website for Cyber Monday.
Not enough people have them for someone to invest the time into rooting, but a common root method might work...
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Got mines at walmart for $79. I have the same kernel as him except my firmware version is 4.0.3.
Still can't find anything on this damn tablet. Almost wish I didn't buy it heheh.
Supposedly root is available on M-270 but I still can't install Superuser. su is present in xbin too. I tried to use superoneclick and it said it was rooted then I tried to continue with root anyway and it froze. Has anyone had this problem and found a solution yet?
vcsack said:
Supposedly root is available on M-270 but I still can't install Superuser. su is present in xbin too. I tried to use superoneclick and it said it was rooted then I tried to continue with root anyway and it froze. Has anyone had this problem and found a solution yet?
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Did you ever figure this out? I have the same tablet and want to root it.
Sent from my Triumph using Tapatalk 2
This Tablet is surprisenly fast... runs as smooth as a 4th Gen I POD.. haven't had any issues so far decent tablet to play around on... i do need a root as well just so i can mod some game files GAMES run super smooth even intense graphics like shooting games... no lag at all colors are rich i was very surprised because of the price i thought it was gonna be a bust.. but with an HDMI slot SDslot.. no special charger needed just use any new phone cords, a 1GHZ processor running ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) ITS A GREAT TAB! runs great haven't had to long to comment on battery life but i do suggest if u want a tablet to start out with get this one... really nice and fun! Please notify me of any updates on this topic i suggest a DEV go get one and play with us PPP
Thanks Guys Please Help Me Soon! -Spikebob
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
I successfully rooted my Maylong M270 by using the software in the linked thread. I was able to install Google Play, and from there I updated SuperUser and BusyBox. Titanium Backup works properly. Without a custom kernel, overclocking is impossible for the moment, and I'm not too sure on how a kernel (or custom recovery and ROM for that matter) can be ported, but the root is here and working.
mtnickels said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
I successfully rooted my Maylong M270 by using the software in the linked thread. I was able to install Google Play, and from there I updated SuperUser and BusyBox. Titanium Backup works properly. Without a custom kernel, overclocking is impossible for the moment, and I'm not too sure on how a kernel (or custom recovery and ROM for that matter) can be ported, but the root is here and working.
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I call bogus on this post. I tried both means to root the Maylong M270 using this method and it does not work. Instead of just posting "I DID IT", why not help out the users and post HOW you did it... simply following the links and downloads on the post you've referenced doesn't do it.
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rodlr said:
i have a maylong m270 tablet can anyone plz tell me,how to gain acesess to root,i cant find anything on this tablet,it is android 4.0.4 the kernal is 3.0.8 the build number is rockchip imm76d,any help would be very appreciated much .. thanks rod
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I know it's been way long since the OP, but a tool called "ICS root" (can be found on SourceForge) will unlock this tablet. The device is a bit temperamental so once you run the .bat in terminal, you will have to manually restart and log back into the tablet before continuing each prompt at the terminal. Eventually after 2 -3 prompts, the .bat will be finished and the tablet will "update Android", a sign that you have successfully rooted.
Good luck all.
Root and Custom ROM at this link for Maylong M-270
CountXDA said:
I know it's been way long since the OP, but a tool called "ICS root" (can be found on SourceForge) will unlock this tablet. The device is a bit temperamental so once you run the .bat in terminal, you will have to manually restart and log back into the tablet before continuing each prompt at the terminal. Eventually after 2 -3 prompts, the .bat will be finished and the tablet will "update Android", a sign that you have successfully rooted.
Good luck all.
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Sorry for the next several posts, but I REALLY want to contribute by bringing this knowledge here for this tablet.
---------- Post added at 10:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:15 AM ----------
ksteffen said:
Sorry for the next several posts, but I REALLY want to contribute by bringing this knowledge here for this tablet.
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However, I'm not allowed to post links, since I have not posted before. So I'm going to post this info in a series of posts, hoping that by the end, links will be allowed.
To find more info on your tablet there is an app in the Play store called CPU Identifier that will tell you what type of board you have in the tablet. Search for that board name on XDA to find rooting advice.
Sent from my Mid-9000 using XDA Premium HD app
Custom ROM and ROOT for Maylong M-270
But the short story is, there is a way to root this tablet, but even better there is a custom ROM available. HardcoreHacker over at "techknow dot me" has been working hard on this. The key to figuring this out was realizing the WM8950 SOC chip set used in this tablet is the same as the WM8850. They are interchangeable. The rom is called Uberoid and is Jellybean 4.1.1, and it works great. My tablet runs very well now, and doesn't lock up all the time like it used to. I also have a link where you can download the original firmware from Maylong. So I'm trying to get some posts here so I can do a proper link, however here are some ugly links to try.
Original Firmware:
maylonggroup dot com forward slash Tablet_downloads.htm
and Uberoid Link
3w's "dot" techknow "dot" me "forward slash" forum "forward slash" index.php?topic=5356.0
Again, I apologize for the very cryptic links - I will work on getting them posted properly. I have two of these tablets and both are running Uberoid. I'm very satisfied with it. The only issue I have (on both tablets) is the battery monitoring is very poor. But this is in the kernel I think because it is the same as it was before the custom ROM.
NOTE! - as you will see on the Maylong Site, there are two different models of this tablet - You can tell which you have based on your serial number, but I think this is a pretty important distinction. If you have the same model as I do, you are going to need JingHan_MID7_V715_8228_FT5206.fwc from the Uberoid List. My model's serial number is M2701204 which is in the same group as M2701202, M2701203, and M2701205)
ksteffen said:
But the short story is, there is a way to root this tablet, but even better there is a custom ROM available. HardcoreHacker over at "techknow dot me" has been working hard on this. The key to figuring this out was realizing the WM8950 SOC chip set used in this tablet is the same as the WM8850. They are interchangeable. The rom is called Uberoid and is Jellybean 4.1.1, and it works great. My tablet runs very well now, and doesn't lock up all the time like it used to. I also have a link where you can download the original firmware from Maylong. So I'm trying to get some posts here so I can do a proper link, however here are some ugly links to try.
Original Firmware:
maylonggroup dot com forward slash Tablet_downloads.htm
and Uberoid Link
3w's "dot" techknow "dot" me "forward slash" forum "forward slash" index.php?topic=5356.0
Again, I apologize for the very cryptic links - I will work on getting them posted properly. I have two of these tablets and both are running Uberoid. I'm very satisfied with it. The only issue I have (on both tablets) is the battery monitoring is very poor. But this is in the kernel I think because it is the same as it was before the custom ROM.
NOTE! - as you will see on the Maylong Site, there are two different models of this tablet - You can tell which you have based on your serial number, but I think this is a pretty important distinction. If you have the same model as I do, you are going to need JingHan_MID7_V715_8228_FT5206.fwc from the Uberoid List. My model's serial number is M2701204 which is in the same group as M2701202, M2701203, and M2701205)
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Wow very helpful I'm trying this now, also it should be mentioned you have to be signed into Techknow for the link to work. If you're not it just looks like a bad link.
Spikebob21 said:
This Tablet is surprisenly fast... runs as smooth as a 4th Gen I POD.. haven't had any issues so far decent tablet to play around on... i do need a root as well just so i can mod some game files GAMES run super smooth even intense graphics like shooting games... no lag at all colors are rich i was very surprised because of the price i thought it was gonna be a bust.. but with an HDMI slot SDslot.. no special charger needed just use any new phone cords, a 1GHZ processor running ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) ITS A GREAT TAB! runs great haven't had to long to comment on battery life but i do suggest if u want a tablet to start out with get this one... really nice and fun! Please notify me of any updates on this topic i suggest a DEV go get one and play with us PPP
Thanks Guys Please Help Me Soon! -Spikebob
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I used SRSRoot on this device and it worked. My device is now rooted.

[Q] Install Android on Meizu MX3

Dear all,
Has anybody so far successfully installed an Android Rom on the Meizu MX3?
Any hint would be mostly appreciated!
I could not find anything via Google or forum search...
Cheers
Julian
I realize this is reviving an old-ish thread, but I too am interested in any info regarding the above.
Due to high pricing, the MX3 is a possible option for me soon.
Hey iSilence,
I have not made any progress so far on the issue. However, I managed to install the Google Playstore and thereby got most of the relevant software related functions I need on the MEIZU.
Would still prefer a nice Android on that machine.
Cheers
Sypher said:
Hey iSilence,
I have not made any progress so far on the issue. However, I managed to install the Google Playstore and thereby got most of the relevant software related functions I need on the MEIZU.
Would still prefer a nice Android on that machine.
Cheers
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From what I've found out till now, the issue with Meizu is that the bootloader is locked.
The furthest people have gotten was to install MIUI on the MX2, and there are a few fixes/mods for the MX3.
MIUI may be possible on the MX3, the device is still pretty fresh so there's hope.
I don't know about stock Android though. One can hope.

[Q] xda or other ROM for LG G Vista?

Am I missing it or are there instructions to root and instructions for multi-boot but no ROM for the LG G Vista, please?
I've searched and read through a bunch of threads but nada ... so far.
Will any of the ROMs for other LG G-series phones work?
Thanks!
Wait ... I just looked in About phone and it says this is a VS880.
I just got this from Verizon.
I'm seeing the VS880 referred to as a G2 and a G3 on the Internet - what is it really, please?
It came with Android 4.4.2, kernel version 3.4.0+, and our son rooted it for me earlier today.
Just in case any of those details help ...
handygeek7 said:
Wait ... I just looked in About phone and it says this is a VS880.
I just got this from Verizon.
I'm seeing the VS880 referred to as a G2 and a G3 on the Internet - what is it really, please?
It came with Android 4.4.2, kernel version 3.4.0+, and our son rooted it for me earlier today.
Just in case any of those details help ...
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They are the same thing. One is the internal name while the other is normal users name of the device. As for roms make sure to do your reading up as the device is pretty locked down.
So, you are saying that there is no ROM anywhere for the LG G Vista/VS880?
Is there any reason to believe that anyone is actively developing one?
There are so many sites touting Rooting as a pathway to loading a ROM it seems odd there there is not one.
handygeek7 said:
So, you are saying that there is no ROM anywhere for the LG G Vista/VS880?
Is there any reason to believe that anyone is actively developing one?
There are so many sites touting Rooting as a pathway to loading a ROM it seems odd there there is not one.
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It takes more then root. You need an u locked bootloader or a way to bypass a locked bootloader like safestrap or bump. Most developers that make roms only make them for devices they own.
The bootloader bypass has been solved:
http://www.unlock-bootloader.info/mp3-0/lg-g-vista-6569.html
The LG G Vista/VX880 is "free" on Verizon with the $16/mo Edge data plan & has a nice big display.
I have my Samsung Tab4 7" tablet for sale as I don't need it now that I have the LG G Vista/VX880.
There are ROMs for the models all around the LG G Vista/VX880 - it's hard to believe that LG made that phone so radically different from the others that tweaking an existing ROM to port it would be beyond a developer.
Sure wish I had the skills ... sigh.
It's not really that. It's most developers seldom do ports. Let alone for devices that don't have. After looking at the spec is not a bad mid range device. But also remember that. Most carriers in the world are GSM carriers and very few work on cdma devices.
There are plenty of Tuts on how to port. Could be something you could look into
Back to this ...
Modified request: Is there an app/hack that strips-out all of the Google stuff, especially their backdoors & data-leeching?
If no one is going to build a custom mod - which seems apparent - it sure would be good to have a clean machine onto which to then install carefully selected apps.
Thanks!
handygeek7 said:
Back to this ...
Modified request: Is there an app/hack that strips-out all of the Google stuff, especially their backdoors & data-leeching?
If no one is going to build a custom mod - which seems apparent - it sure would be good to have a clean machine onto which to then install carefully selected apps.
Thanks!
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Simple answer is no. You would have to build a rom from source and then remove alot of the Google based code. There is a project that is working on it but you lose alot of functionality.
zelendel said:
Simple answer is no. You would have to build a rom from source and then remove alot of the Google based code. There is a project that is working on it but you lose alot of functionality.
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Cannot the functionality be restored via privacy-respecting alternative apps?
What about an app that monitors the bad behavior of the Google code than cannot be removed and blocks execution of data-leeching & activity monitoring?
handygeek7 said:
Cannot the functionality be restored via privacy-respecting alternative apps?
What about an app that monitors the bad behavior of the Google code than cannot be removed and blocks execution of data-leeching & activity monitoring?
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Not completely no. Many have been trying over the years. Your biggest issue is the device your using. Once that is taken care of you can try and build something but like I said alot of the stuff is built directly into the os.
To be honest privacy is an illusion at best now a days. Every thing monitors what you do. From credit cards to social net networking. It is all made to get as much info as it can about a person. Even carriers do it. It has even come to light that Verizon can monitor the apps installed on a device.
I have a hardbrick
hi buds
I have a hardbrick ... flash wrong files from LG L90 .. boot.zip ... contents overwrite my device and now PC know with HS Forge QDL 9008 .., any help me ?
thanks in advance ( and sorry for my bad english )
I hope someone makes a nice rom for this phone soon are a stock rooted rom
I really need help
Pls I need help I am new to rooting and I was just trying to free up some space and I think I deleted something on accident well I want to reset my phone and the settings will not open for me I can open the general tab but then when I go to backup and factory reset it just crashes and I don't know how to reset it with buttons this doesn't work. My home screen changed and everything I just want to get my phone back to normal PPPPPLLLLLLLLSSSSSSSS HHHHHHHHEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPP me my entire life s on my phone I have a backup of it after did the root and deleted stuff..... Pls help
Did you get help yet?
F dl50 said:
Pls I need help I am new to rooting and I was just trying to free up some space and I think I deleted something on accident well I want to reset my phone and the settings will not open for me I can open the general tab but then when I go to backup and factory reset it just crashes and I don't know how to reset it with buttons this doesn't work. My home screen changed and everything I just want to get my phone back to normal PPPPPLLLLLLLLSSSSSSSS HHHHHHHHEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPP me my entire life s on my phone I have a backup of it after did the root and deleted stuff..... Pls help
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I just re-flashed my VX880 last night to stock 5.1.1.
I can give some pointers that I had to work through if you have any questions, or have not gotten any help since last November.
I have spent many hours looking .
handygeek7 said:
Am I missing it or are there instructions to root and instructions for multi-boot but no ROM for the LG G Vista, please?
I've searched and read through a bunch of threads but nada ... so far.
Will any of the ROMs for other LG G-series phones work?
Thanks!
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Many Many hours wasted on Google,Bing,ect. I haven't found anything. I have seen where some people refer to this as the same as a G2 And others but it's clearly not. But yeah wish someone would put something out. Agreed. I have however figured out how to get Viper4Android and Dolby Atmos to work. So if anyone is interested in knowing how that's done hit me up. All you have to have is root. NO custom recovery. Haven't seen a post on how to do that either? I still have 8 more to go before I can post lol.
n8wwd said:
I just re-flashed my VX880 last night to stock 5.1.1.
I can give some pointers that I had to work through if you have any questions, or have not gotten any help since last November.
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Where did you get the rom? Do you have a copy I can get?

Nook BNTV250A - how to update browser

Hello, all! I'm using a castoff tablet (nonprofits cut costs at all costs), and need to update the browser. I'll do research, of course, but I thought I'd set up a new account here first so that I might ask the experts. What say you? Many thanks...
kauma said:
Hello, all! I'm using a castoff tablet (nonprofits cut costs at all costs), and need to update the browser. I'll do research, of course, but I thought I'd set up a new account here first so that I might ask the experts. What say you? Many thanks...
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You can't update the browser unless you root the device. If you just root it, the OS is so old you may not find a browser that will run on it. You really need to update the OS with a new ROM.
This is the 8gb model, right? Reports are that the limited RAM makes anything past KitKat (CM 11) problematic. I have posted some older ROMs :https://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-tablet/general/cm-10-11-nook-8-gb-tablet-t3570821
I'd recommend a pico GApps package from opengapps.org for the CM 11 ROMs. There is a GApps package I included with one of the ROMs which was posted along with it originally, but I think it would be better not to overload the system. A pico package will basicallyy get you PlayStore access and nothing else (not even Gmail). Then you can add whatever you want (and not have what you don't want busy in the background).
If you want to try for Lollipop (CM 12.1), I have the file. Let me know.
Thank you! I was mistaken; the model is BNTV250...which, I gather, is the 16G.
I've researched rooting, and it appears that an SD card is usually required. There is little - meaning no - money to spend here, so I've also looked into other methods...such as kingroot. I'm a risk-taker, but I know so little about all of this.
"I have posted some older ROMs (see general section above this one) and you could try one of those. I'd recommend a pico GApps package from opengapps. If you want to try for Lollipop (CM 12.1), I have the file. Let me know." Beg pardon?
Please forgive the delays in my responses - I can only access this site while on a laptop.
Thank you greatly!
kauma said:
Thank you! I was mistaken; the model is BNTV250...which, I gather, is the 16G.
I've researched rooting, and it appears that an SD card is usually required. There is little - meaning no - money to spend here, so I've also looked into other methods...such as kingroot. I'm a risk-taker, but I know so little about all of this.
"I have posted some older ROMs (see general section above this one) and you could try one of those. I'd recommend a pico GApps package from opengapps. If you want to try for Lollipop (CM 12.1), I have the file. Let me know." Beg pardon?
Please forgive the delays in my responses - I can only access this site while on a laptop.
Thank you greatly!
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OK. The 16 gb is much better in terms of what's available and up-to-date. I have one and am using the AOSP 7.0 ROM (instructions for installation here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-tablet/general/how-to-installing-aosp-android-7-0-t3578665).
Don't be fixated on root. It is not going to solve your issues with updating the browser because the B&N Android version underneath all their stuff is 2.3. Current Android OS is 7.1 so......... You can see that finding a browser (or other apps) for the older system is not going to be easy and the results will be less than thrilling.
The safest way is flashing a ROM using an SD card (rooting is generally part of the package). I'd be very careful about kingroot. It may or may not work, but in any case you'd still be stuck on Android 2.3.
Maybe you can borrow an SD card?
Edit: but maybe you do just want to root and see if you can find a browser that will be better. In that case there is a simple guide somewhere in this forum, but it does require the use of an SD card
nmyshkin said:
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Edit: but maybe you do just want to root and see if you can find a browser that will be better. In that case there is a simple guide somewhere in this forum, but it does require the use of an SD card
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See https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31271965&postcount=240 for a guide on rooting the NT, and https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575489 for some potentially helpful related background info & pointers.
i need a latest software for my nook color model no BNRV200
i fount it difficult to connect as it so
hows network lost to local network

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