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Dear community,
I've rooted my TFP using the guide from xda. To be honest, I didn't mean to, I read the guide and got carried away with it . Finally the root is good now. As a windows guy and with slight understanding of linux I'm pretty new to android.
My question is, now that my tablet is rooted, how can I take advantage of it? What are the recommended apps? Any known tweaks?
Please enlighten me
Search 'root' on android market.
Titanium Backup is useful, Ghost Commander or EZ file, there are also apps to remote control your tablet, you can use new launchers - trebuchet launcher or nova launcher on rooted devices.
You can also delete system files, so be careful.
The biggest bonus to rooting is being able to flash different roms like many of us do with our android smartphones. Flashing roms is currently not an option on the Prime but should or could be available in the future. Right now I don't think there's a whole lot to do with a rooted Prime.
While I haven't rooted my Prime yet, I'm only in day 6 and waiting until the "send it back" period elapses I rooted my moto Atrix2 almost immediately. I installed Titanium Backup as well as System Tuner, and a couple other root only apps. The primary reason for rooting the Atrix2 was to freeze Carrier ID as I don't care for ATT snooping on me with without so much as a by your leave. In any case I'll probably root the Prime just to get more control over what the device is doing when it's in standby. For instance I am hoping to be able to use Tasker to shut off the wifi after 5 or 10 minutes in standby in order to save battery power and turn it back on,when I wake up the tablet. Maybe find a way to create different, more detailed power profiles for different activities. I've done a lot of this on the Atrix2 and seen some significant increases in battery life because of it.
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coogrrr94 said:
The biggest bonus to rooting is being able to flash different roms like many of us do with our android smartphones. Flashing roms is currently not an option on the Prime but should or could be available in the future. Right now I don't think there's a whole lot to do with a rooted Prime.
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Incorrect, Rooting has nothing to do with flashing ROMs. Unlocking the bootloader on the other hand, has everything to do with flashing ROMs.
Swiftks said:
Incorrect, Rooting has nothing to do with flashing ROMs. Unlocking the bootloader on the other hand, has everything to do with flashing ROMs.
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right. i don't think that any ROM can improve the already very good existing one from ASUS.
I haven't rooted my TFP, but I'm seriously considering doing so. The main reason is that most of (good) adbockers require root access. Loading all this rubbish adds, many of them being large flash animations, slows down browsing experience significantly. I want to get rid of them and the only way I know is by rooting Android.
For me about the biggest thing is "AdAway" or any other app for updating host file.
Never see one single ad on your device again. Less anoyance, faster loading times in browser, less data consumption ...
Neter67 said:
right. i don't think that any ROM can improve the already very good existing one from ASUS.
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You've never used CM7 then... soon to be CM9.
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that is my question? This may be the first device I'm not in a rush to root With no cwm to do nandroid backups, or install any custom roms. At least I dont think cwm is available yet. What other benefits does rooting have right now? Does it increase battery life? Doubt it.
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that is my question? This may be the first device I'm not in a rush to root With no cwm to do nandroid backups, or install any custom roms. At least I dont think cwm is available yet. What other benefits does rooting have right now? Does it increase battery life? Doubt it.
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I did it to use Titanium to restore my apps. And to freeze uninstall bloat like tethering manager. My kids need internet on their crApple ipods when we're away from wifi.
Routing brings a lot of benefits and only one con: you void the warranty.
Basically the freedom root brings is unlimited:
You can fully customize your device to your liking. That includes boot animation, icons, status bar etc. it allows you to uninstall any app (even system apps) so it boosts up your battery and performance of the device.
But with great power comes great reasonability so you gotta be careful not to mess up your device.
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Mostly right now it's just for overclocking to compensate for some the lag a lot of users are seeing as well as enable root applications such as Root Explorer to remove system apps as well as Chainfire 3d. Plus, it's just pushing the community forward (at a rapid pace I might add). You've gotta have a root available or else there's no reason for CWM.
In addition, it's just supporting the community. Da_G worked incredibly hard and was simply amazing at making the root process available so quick. Whether you root or not is up to you and I'm not saying you can only support the community by rooting, but we should all show the devs respect and thanks for the great work they are already doing.
Ok I dont need to do that at the moment. I'm trying not to restore all my apps as they were way too many and most I didnt even use. I'm trying to start fresh with apps and only install the ones I use one by one to preserve battery life. Tethering, no need yet.
urbanshadow said:
Routing brings a lot of benefits and only one con: you void the warranty.
Basically the freedom root brings is unlimited:
You can fully customize your device to your liking. That includes boot animation, icons, status bar etc. it allows you to uninstall any app (even system apps) so it boosts up your battery and performance of the device.
But with great power comes great reasonability so you gotta be careful not to mess up your device.
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Mostly right now it's just for overclocking to compensate for some the lag a lot of users are seeing as well as enable root applications such as Root Explorer to remove system apps as well as Chainfire 3d. Plus, it's just pushing the community forward (at a rapid pace I might add). You've gotta have a root available or else there's no reason for CWM.
In addition, it's just supporting the community. Da_G worked incredibly hard and was simply amazing at making the root process available so quick. Whether you root or not is up to you and I'm not saying you can only support the community by rooting, but we should all show the devs respect and thanks for the great work they are already doing.
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I hear you guys, but at the moment I'm enjoying the device with no need to root. I dont experience this lag others complain about. Its really working rather nice for me. I'm familiar with rooting and as the dev threads start getting busier and have more things to try I will root but as for right now I just dont see the need and thats weird for me. I usually root right away device out the box before anything.
Only thing that may get to me in the long run is the inconsistent screen issues we all are facing, and battery life as time goes on.
I don't think anyone here is trying to convince you to root. Do it or not, doesn't impact any one of us.
Certain things I cannot easily live without -- Tethering being one of them so it was a no brainer for me. Plus I have been tracking data usage and you would be amazed at how many AT&T pre-installed bloatware apps just use data randomly. These apps I might ad I have never so much as opened one time, so being able to freeze them is also one of the main reasons I rooted.
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Certain things I cannot easily live without -- Tethering being one of them so it was a no brainer for me. Plus I have been tracking data usage and you would be amazed at how many AT&T pre-installed bloatware apps just use data randomly. These apps I might ad I have never so much as opened one time, so being able to freeze them is also one of the main reasons I rooted.
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How exactly do you do this? Track these apps and get precise data usage? And this may be a reason to root and freeze.
adblock .
I rooted to use TiBu to restore my apps and freeze a bunch of bloatware. I've notice that it seems to move a lot faster now without all the crap bogging it down.
That could just be the placebo effect though
s1mpd1ddy said:
I rooted to use TiBu to restore my apps and freeze a bunch of bloatware. I've notice that it seems to move a lot faster now without all the crap bogging it down.
That could just be the placebo effect though
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I actually like that TiBu can freeze apps but what I dont like is that when I've tried to reinstall apps before that you have to install each one, one by one. It'll keep popping up with the option to install each one, and I'm talking about 100+ apps. Kind of a PIA. Is this because its the free version or is it the same with the paid version?
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I actually like that TiBu can freeze apps but what I dont like is that when I've tried to reinstall apps before that you have to install each one, one by one. It'll keep popping up with the option to install each one, and I'm talking about 100+ apps. Kind of a PIA. Is this because its the free version or is it the same with the paid version?
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If you pony up and pay for it, you don't have to do this one by one. Purchasing TiBu Pro will be the best investment you can make for your phone. Seriously.
MyBackup Root is FREE and it backs up and restores apps one-click fast with no problems and it's FREE.
Did I mention it's FREE?
The names showing up in the Developer Forum are unbelievable!! So many good things to come with this phone. You are going to root eventually, why not enjoy the benefits now
jpeg42 said:
If you pony up and pay for it, you don't have to do this one by one. Purchasing TiBu Pro will be the best investment you can make for your phone. Seriously.
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I'm buying tonight.
orangekid said:
MyBackup Root is FREE and it backs up and restores apps one-click fast with no problems and it's FREE.
Did I mention it's FREE?
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Yes but it doesnt freeze pesky apps.
jpeg42 said:
The names showing up in the Developer Forum are unbelievable!! So many good things to come with this phone. You are going to root eventually, why not enjoy the benefits now
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I'm rooting tonight
-uninstalling bloat
-ad blocker
-increasing sd cache size to 4mb
-overclocking
-wifi tethering
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Maroon Mushroom said:
-uninstalling bloat
-ad blocker
-increasing sd cache size to 4mb
-overclocking
-wifi tethering
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What program do we need to use to increase the sd cache size?
I want to know the same, I think its sd booster.
And not sure why alot of people like ad blocker. I dont find the ads bothering much. Unless you guys are talking about pop ups which I've yet to experience.
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What program do we need to use to increase the sd cache size?
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Hey Maroon Mushroom, if you are browsing, can you please answer? Or anyone else have an answer? Thanks!!
I feels good to be on a phone platform that isn't stagnant. After owning an LG S-Class phone and a Bada phone, having Android feels like Christmas has come early. However I am left majorly confused as to my options on various things.
I have tried to read and understand the benefits of rooting my phone. I've only found one negative in that Google Play movies won't work. Other than that it seems like a great thing to do. However after reading and trying to understand everything, I was left more confused than ever before. So far I've found 4 different methods to root a phone. Which method does one go for? Then there's the super user access, busybox, yellow triangle, again it's confusing.
I would like to root my phone to achieve the following:
- Be able to shutoff various services and things to get better battery life.
- Get access to all of the cool rooted apps out there, like the ones from Chainfire etc.
- Play some of the Tegra games.
- And I'm sure other things I havn't yet discovered or am aware of.
I would like to also know what are the options for being able to install copied paid apps etc. On the iPhone it was easy once you jailbroke a phone, but on Android I'm again confused on this part. I know there is an option to be able to install apps from an untrusted source, but it seems there has to be more to this than that.
Then the thing that confuses me the most is the huge amount of custom roms. Then you have kernels thrown in as well. I've gone into information overload trying to get up to speed with everything and this part seems too large a scope to get my head around it so quickly. I don't have any problem with my stock ICS really, but then I don't know what I'm missing on the custom side of things.
I'm sure I sound like a complete noob. That's ok, I am when it comes to Android. For my previous phones I was flashing custom roms, and doing all kinds of things. Maybe it's not all as confusing as I think, but right now I'm having a hard time getting a good picture on things when it comes to my new Galaxy S2 phone.
I would greatly appreciate someone being able to help me with some of these questions rather than telling me to gtfo or use the search function. I've tried, but now after overloading on stuff, I've taken a step back. I've been trying to find a website, page or post that might answer my questions in a way that I can get my head around it all. In the end I choose an Android phone because of the customizations, and for the community that is doing great things. I'd like to join the party :good:
Superuser access, busybox, and yellow triangle are not root methods. Superuser is what you get when you root the phone, and it allows root apps to get superuser access to do certain root things, if you grant the app those permissions. Busybox is some sort of utility (I don't know much about it, actually. Shrugs) that you can only get on Android once its rooted. Required for titanium backup and some other root programs. I think it was originally on linux. The yellow triangle is a Samsung only thing, basically it counts how many times you have flashed custom firmware and kernels onto your phone. The app triangle away resets the counter so you can claim a warranty if the phone breaks without the triangle giving you away. You can choose your root method, some are one click and others are the traditional method.
Installing the .apk of a paid app? That's a no-no. To answer your question, you can install a non market app without root and there isn't really another side of that. (Maybe you're talking about license verification?)
Custom ROMs are firmware (you know that, since you said you've done it before. The advantages are usually a later version of Android that your manufacturer stopped on, a stock non skinned Android experience (your S2 has touchwiz), and tweaks/other features to make it faster/cooler. For example, ParanoidAndroid allows you to switch between tablet and phone modes easily, and the entire cyanogenmod series has a built in theme engine as well as many options in the CM settings.
Custom kernels (or just kernels) manage the CPU and GPU. Different kernels allow overclock/underclock better battery saver and performance settings, and simply CPU management.
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gagdude said:
Superuser access, busybox, and yellow triangle are not root methods. Superuser is what you get when you root the phone, and it allows root apps to get superuser access to do certain root things, if you grant the app those permissions. Busybox is some sort of utility (I don't know much about it, actually. Shrugs) that you can only get on Android once its rooted. Required for titanium backup and some other root programs. I think it was originally on linux. The yellow triangle is a Samsung only thing, basically it counts how many times you have flashed custom firmware and kernels onto your phone. The app triangle away resets the counter so you can claim a warranty if the phone breaks without the triangle giving you away. You can choose your root method, some are one click and others are the traditional method.
Installing the .apk of a paid app? That's a no-no. To answer your question, you can install a non market app without root and there isn't really another side of that. (Maybe you're talking about license verification?)
Custom ROMs are firmware (you know that, since you said you've done it before. The advantages are usually a later version of Android that your manufacturer stopped on, a stock non skinned Android experience (your S2 has touchwiz), and tweaks/other features to make it faster/cooler. For example, ParanoidAndroid allows you to switch between tablet and phone modes easily, and the entire cyanogenmod series has a built in theme engine as well as many options in the CM settings.
Custom kernels (or just kernels) manage the CPU and GPU. Different kernels allow overclock/underclock better battery saver and performance settings, and simply CPU management.
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Thanks for the reply gagdude.
The custom roms thing is indeed confusing lol. You have files for modems, kernels, and it goes on. How does one even know if they need a new modem file I wonder. I imagine people probably flash their phones on a daily basis. What to speak of choosing a new kernel.
At any rate, being that this is my first android phone, and my second Samsung one, I'm quite happy with the Touchwiz interface as it's familiar.
I understand more now what a kernel does, unless I'm mixing in some things I've seen that look like a completely different UI. I might look at that at some point, but for now my stock ICS 4.0.3 on the S2 seems quite ok. So really it's now just choosing a method of rooting it.
As for installing the .apk of a paid app, yes that was what I was referring to. It was possible on jailbroken iphones installing .ipas, but I don't know if it is on Android. When you say a no-no, are you referring to it can't be done, or that it can, but it's a topic that cannot be discussed here?
KrazyKong said:
Thanks for the reply gagdude.
The custom roms thing is indeed confusing lol. You have files for modems, kernels, and it goes on. How does one even know if they need a new modem file I wonder. I imagine people probably flash their phones on a daily basis. What to speak of choosing a new kernel.
At any rate, being that this is my first android phone, and my second Samsung one, I'm quite happy with the Touchwiz interface as it's familiar.
I understand more now what a kernel does, unless I'm mixing in some things I've seen that look like a completely different UI. I might look at that at some point, but for now my stock ICS 4.0.3 on the S2 seems quite ok. So really it's now just choosing a method of rooting it.
As for installing the .apk of a paid app, yes that was what I was referring to. It was possible on jailbroken iphones installing .ipas, but I don't know if it is on Android. When you say a no-no, are you referring to it can't be done, or that it can, but it's a topic that cannot be discussed here?
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No prob.
Some people do flash quite often, yes, but I don't believe they completely change everything. Usually they flash a different ROM because hey - ROMs are the fun part. Each one is unique and its fun to play around.
Touchwiz is a pretty nice interface IMO but its personal opinion, some people hate it. Either way, your choice on that. I do believe some skins are big resource and RAM hogs, especially Sense (despite it looking very nice) and the old Motoblur. That's when flashing a vanilla Android ROM really helps.
The S2 should be getting a JB upgrade in the next few months, so if you plan on staying stock and taking the OTA, make sure to only freeze bloatware (not uninstall) and do NOT install a custom recovery. Rooting these days are pretty easy, its just that some old timers dislike one click root methods because you don't know what you're getting into and you don't fully understand what you're doing to your phone. Little secret: I've only rooted with one click root methods
Yes just like a jailbroken iPhone you can install the .apk however it is available without root.
When I say no - no I mean we can't discuss it on xda. It's against the rules
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gagdude said:
No prob.
Some people do flash quite often, yes, but I don't believe they completely change everything. Usually they flash a different ROM because hey - ROMs are the fun part. Each one is unique and its fun to play around.
Touchwiz is a pretty nice interface IMO but its personal opinion, some people hate it. Either way, your choice on that. I do believe some skins are big resource and RAM hogs, especially Sense (despite it looking very nice) and the old Motoblur. That's when flashing a vanilla Android ROM really helps.
The S2 should be getting a JB upgrade in the next few months, so if you plan on staying stock and taking the OTA, make sure to only freeze bloatware (not uninstall) and do NOT install a custom recovery. Rooting these days are pretty easy, its just that some old timers dislike one click root methods because you don't know what you're getting into and you don't fully understand what you're doing to your phone. Little secret: I've only rooted with one click root methods
Yes just like a jailbroken iPhone you can install the .apk however it is available without root.
When I say no - no I mean we can't discuss it on xda. It's against the rules
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Yes I was aware the S2 would be, or should be getting JB in the next few months. I'm more than happy to wait for that. I have found one program that enables you to one click root the phone, but it's a bit misleading as you have to first flash a file using ODIN, thus it's not one click on that sense. What is the program you use for rooting may I ask?
Maybe I got lucky but my phone is unbranded and only contains 2 apps. Both can be uninstalled. As for freezing the bloatware, I'll have to read up more on what services and things I can freeze safely.
SuperOneClick is by far the most popular one click root solutions. It doesn't support all devices, however. If it doesn't work on your S2, that method you found (flash a file via ODIN first and I'm assuming the next step is a one click root?) seems pretty simple. As long as you don't mind doing a few extra steps, there are many methods for the SGS2 because of its popularity. Make sure the instructions to root are for your specific model, becaused there are many variants of it.
The reason why I said not to uninstall bloatware and only freeze is because when you update, you have to have all the apps the phone came with (if its uninstallable stock, then it should be fine), unroot, then update for it to work correctly. Having a custom recovery like Clockworkmod also causes problems when updating. You'll have to stick with the stock recovery.
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Hello all,
Starting a thread to see if there is out there in XDA who happened to pick up the Ellipsis 8 yesterday for Black Friday?
I bought my Mom a smartphone finally being she was stuck with old tech and never owned a smart phone so I got her the Sony Xperia Z3v. She is overly excited.
Anyways, they gave us for free Quanta Ellipsis 8 QTAQZ3, and I have attempted the following to get root access;
1) Kingo Root
2) TowelRoot
3) Framaroot 1.9.3
Neither one of these options provided root. Upon digging up threads on XDA, I found that the older Ellipsis 7 was able to get rooted with both Kingo Root and Framaroot.
I am glad we have more interest in this tablet. I would like custom roms, but to at least root it. I actually got three of these yesterday. I have tried almost everything to root as well.
JAWheat411 said:
I am glad we have more interest in this tablet. I would like custom roms, but to at least root it. I actually got three of these yesterday. I have tried almost everything to root as well.
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Yeah I would just like to root it so I can remove all the Verizon bloat that came with it.
Yep I got 2 of them yesterday looking forward to seeing someone figure out how to root them.
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I tried all three listed above as well with no success. I would be eternally greatful for anyone who can help with rooting this device since Verizon was so keen on giving them out like candy on Black Friday.
I picked one up, havent really looked for any methods. Its been a pretty good device thus far.
I think what people need to look for in the software is some bugs like how every other root method works... i know My Verizon requests su when its first run, but anyways, this would probably be the best place to look.
Raiden8816 said:
Yeah I would just like to root it so I can remove all the Verizon bloat that came with it.
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You can get rid of most of the VZW bloat without root, using the app manager.
I would like to see a decent custom AOSP ROM for this thing.
Seems to perform about as well as the original Nexus 7, but the screen isn't as sharp or vivid... the colors are a bit washed out and bland looking, IMHO.
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You can get rid of most of the VZW bloat without root, using the app manager.
I would like to see a decent custom AOSP ROM for this thing.
Seems to perform about as well as the original Nexus 7, but the screen isn't as sharp or vivid... the colors are a bit washed out and bland looking, IMHO.
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Honestly i dont mind. For me its better than my ****ty Tab 4 that i had before it, so it works lol.
The only thing i wish is to gain root to put the nav buttons on the sides when rotated, but we havent obtained root yet.
Also multiwindow would be awesome.
Hopefully Someone Gets It!
I am hoping that one of our amazing Devs here on XDA will figure this out. I want root so I can get the full performance out of Tasker. Plus a few other things like a full debloat and such. I would have no problem making a donation to the Dev who figures this out lol.
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mike253 said:
Honestly i dont mind. For me its better than my ****ty Tab 4 that i had before it, so it works lol.
The only thing i wish is to gain root to put the nav buttons on the sides when rotated, but we havent obtained root yet.
Also multiwindow would be awesome.
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Are you referring to the Galaxy Tabs? If so I 100% feel you. I don't understand how their phones are so gooood (IMO LOL), But they fail so hard on there tablets. Im beyond done with those until they step it up...ALOT lol.
Come on people, no news is not good news. I can't do anymore digging into this until I am off this weekend.
Any updates?
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Any updates?
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Until enough people get this tablet, there won't be any incentive to develop for it...
I think this tab is awful.....I can see why its free ...and to the poster who said you can delete the Verizon bloatware ..u are wrong you can only disable some. no deleting of any system apps including the Amazon apps....We need Root bad.....the stock OS is archaic 4.4.2 and Not to add insult to injury there is no updates anytime soon according to Quanta......
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I think this tab is awful.....I can see why its free ...and to the poster who said you can delete the Verizon bloatware ..u are wrong you can only disable some. no deleting of any system apps including the Amazon apps....We need Root bad.....the stock OS is archaic 4.4.2 and Not to add insult to injury there is no updates anytime soon according to Quanta......
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Well, disabling is as good as deleting. Deleting them saves a small amount of space, a few MB... You have an SD slot, add more storage cheaply...
It is a basic tablet. I would never have bought such a tablet, but for free, what the hell, makes a nice news reader and stuff when lying in bed.
When I want a real tablet I do have a Dell Venue 11 Pro that works really well.
I am going to keep looking and digging all weekend. There has to be a way to get this rooted. I know my brother in law rooted the Ellipsis 7 with Framaroot. But, none of the versions have worked. I know it is due to the newer build of Kitkat. It just takes time for someone to find the exploit.
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I am going to keep looking and digging all weekend. There has to be a way to get this rooted. I know my brother in law rooted the Ellipsis 7 with Framaroot. But, none of the versions have worked. I know it is due to the newer build of Kitkat. It just takes time for someone to find the exploit.
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Unless someone creates an AOSP or faster ROM for this device, I just don't see what Root will actually do for us... I mean, saving 50MB of storage or whatever by removing a few apps that can be disabled without Root, doesn't seem like much incentive to a Dev, you know?
If we could get AOSP with a lean and fast kernel or something, I would be all over that like Richard Simmons on a Cub Scout, but I just don't see that happening...
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Unless someone creates an AOSP or faster ROM for this device, I just don't see what Root will actually do for us... I mean, saving 50MB of storage or whatever by removing a few apps that can be disabled without Root, doesn't seem like much incentive to a Dev, you know?
If we could get AOSP with a lean and fast kernel or something, I would be all over that like Richard Simmons on a Cub Scout, but I just don't see that happening...
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Well the main purpose for me to get root is to use things like ad blockers. Also to use xposed and titanium backup.
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Well the main purpose for me to get root is to use things like ad blockers. Also to use xposed and titanium backup.
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I have not used TI... I never really have anything to backup... I mean my pics and stuff I back up to my PC, everything else is in the cloud... when I get a new phone or hard reset one, install a ROM, etc... My stuff restores from the Play Store so I never really have to do much other than a few tweaks and set up my launcher and home screens the way I want...
Never used ad block either, but I am sure that all the ROMs I have used over the years probably had that built in...
I just wish the tablet was a bit snappier... I think a smaller footprint and a faster kernel in an AOSP ROM would help, but that's probably all you can do for these things....
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I have not used TI... I never really have anything to backup... I mean my pics and stuff I back up to my PC, everything else is in the cloud... when I get a new phone or hard reset one, install a ROM, etc... My stuff restores from the Play Store so I never really have to do much other than a few tweaks and set up my launcher and home screens the way I want...
Never used ad block either, but I am sure that all the ROMs I have used over the years probably had that built in...
I just wish the tablet was a bit snappier... I think a smaller footprint and a faster kernel in an AOSP ROM would help, but that's probably all you can do for these things....
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Well titanium backup does back up your apps and games. But the difference is when you restore them it restores all data (like launcher layout) and settings like levels in games or app preferences. This will also backup and restore stuff you didn't get from the play store. Last time I checked the play store only restores app and not data.
Ad blocking would speed the tablet up a bit online. Also the tweaks you can do after rooting would increase performance greatly.
JAWheat411 said:
Well titanium backup does back up your apps and games. But the difference is when you restore them it restores all data (like launcher layout) and settings like levels in games or app preferences. This will also backup and restore stuff you didn't get from the play store. Last time I checked the play store only restores app and not data.
Ad blocking would speed the tablet up a bit online. Also the tweaks you can do after rooting would increase performance greatly.
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I was about to respond to the other member but you made all the points I had to make haha. I 100% agree. I need root on this thing so I can run TB, Xposed, AD Away, Root Explorer, Debloat FULLY and not just disable, and a plethora of other things root is good for. Bottom line is it doesn't matter what the reason, ALL Android devices are better with root!
I am new to this, after switching from an iPhone.
And so far it has been sooo confusing.
I have learned that you cannot get ViperOne on AT&T without S-off because they haven't updated to 4.4.4
But the guide doesn't mention that? Luckily I asked on their IRC before I tried.
I am wondering if there are any good custom roms for 4.4.2 with S-On.
After learning about ViperOne and having no warning that it won't work on AT&T, I am skeptical if their are any that will work.
I am new to this. and I'm very surprised the official guide on Venomroms.com doesn't warn you that it doesn't work on AT&T without S-off.
Coming from using and iPhone for the last 3-4 years this seems ridiculous. So any help would be greatly appreciated.
Also is it HTC that makes it so hard to root , unlock, and customize? Or is it Android? I'm having a hard time understanding why everyone recommends android. I had no idea you had to pay money to load custom roms.
Edit - So I just read that you can't flash custom firmware without being S-Off. Guess that answers the question. This phone sucks. No wonder why iPhone 6 was still out of stock.
nigerlet said:
I am new to this, after switching from an iPhone.
And so far it has been sooo confusing.
I have learned that you cannot get ViperOne on AT&T without S-off because they haven't updated to 4.4.4
But the guide doesn't mention that? Luckily I asked on their IRC before I tried.
I am wondering if there are any good custom roms for 4.4.2 with S-On.
After learning about ViperOne and having no warning that it won't work on AT&T, I am skeptical if their are any that will work.
I am new to this. and I'm very surprised the official guide on Venomroms.com doesn't warn you that it doesn't work on AT&T without S-off.
Coming from using and iPhone for the last 3-4 years this seems ridiculous. So any help would be greatly appreciated.
Also is it HTC that makes it so hard to root , unlock, and customize? Or is it Android? I'm having a hard time understanding why everyone recommends android. I had no idea you had to pay money to load custom roms.
Edit - So I just read that you can't flash custom firmware without being S-Off. Guess that answers the question. This phone sucks. No wonder why iPhone 6 was still out of stock.
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And what custom roms were you running on your iPhone?
edit: Must not feed troll...
1. A whole new world of apps
Android offers a wide range of apps for every situation, but when you want something that offers a somewhat ”more advanced” function you usually require root level permissions. Having root permission simply means to be an ”administrator” of your device, so you have control over deeper interactions with the system. This allows us to uninstall bloatware (pre-loaded apps), control firewalls, management systems and even enable gesture controls through multi-touch modifications. There are also apps that work fine without root, but whose full potential is only realized with root, such as antivirus apps, with their locking systems/remote access or CleanMaster, which lets you remove bloatware if you are rooted.
2. Customize like never before
Android devices are famous for their ability to change launcher, icon packs, live wallpapers, ringtones, keyboard sounds and much more. However, this customization is usually limited to superficial aesthetic changes. With root permissions you can modify the system files to your liking, including system sounds as well as the boot animation, which is what you see when you start your device up. The level of customization that is possible is near-limitless, but you can only start to see how deep the rabbit hole goes once you’ve taken the first step.
3. Performance beyond all limits
There are already many apps that can free up your RAM or speed up your phone, and However, with ”normal” methods it is not possible to overcome the limitations imposed by the hardware itself, but only to work within those predefined limits. Once again, root permission comes to the rescue, allowing you to modify the actual speed of the CPU via overclocking. To do this it is necessary to flash a custom kernel – the link connecting your hardware to software – that allows it, but the process is very simple, even more so using the app Kernel Manager.
4. No more problems with the battery
Smartphones continue to evolve, but the Achilles heel of the battery has not yet been resolved. Although the best phones can guarantee 24 hours of use (and beyond, thanks to power-saving features), many of us fail to get to the end of the evening. Solution? Buy yourself the LG G3, the new king of the battery! Or, if you’re not going to shell out that kind of money, or because you are simply loyal to your current smartphone, you can root and solve the problem yourself. With root you can access a number of functions that will allow you to choose how much power goes to the CPU, so setting a lower limit, called undervolting, can make significant savings in terms of power consumption. Again, you’ll need a different kernel to the one your phone came with.
5. Automate everything
Many of you already know the application Tasker, which allows us to automate virtually every aspect of our smartphones. For those not in the know, on the basis of an event (such as the insertion of the headphones, our specific location, a particular time of day etc) we can match an action to it (launch apps, send text messages, play a song) – all managed by this application. It also works without root permissions, but with them we will be able to access the complete list of possible interactions, such as activation of the internet, GPS, screen control, CPU speed, and much more.
6. Flash custom ROMs
This is the number one reason why the majority of Android users decide to get root permissions. In addition to radically (or subtly) customizing a smartphone, the major custom ROMs we like the most tend to outdo the stock ROM in terms of functionality, performance and fluidity; an example is OmniROM, who are working on a ROM for fully integrated voice commands, allowing you to control every function of your smartphone via voice commands. Another important feature is the ability to upgrade our old and manufacturer-abandoned smartphone with the latest versions of Android. Here’s our list of the most important custom ROM and root terms explained.
7. Block advertizing
While advertizing is, for many developers, their only source of income and the only thing that allows them to create otherwise free apps, it can also be a nuisance that you want to eliminate from your smartphone experience. If an app contains invasive advertising that not only consumes a large amount of data but that can also potentially trigger subscriptions without our consent, as we’ve seen repeatedly with WhatsApp, it’s a problem that can be dealt with if you have root. Apps like AdBlock Plus give you control over the advertizing contained in apps and browsers. The use of this application and of other similar ones is possible only for those with root level permissions.
8. Perform full backups
Every Android device has the ability to make a backup of applications and certain data, within the settings menu or through the use of management software like Samsung’s Kies. Even if you decide to use these options together with various cloud services, nothing can ultimately compete with the features offered by root permission backups. For example, it is only with root that you can use the legendary app Titanium Backup, with which you can make copies of the entire system image of your device and move it to your SD card or computer. You also have the the ability to automate the process at regular intervals.
9. Access features from other phones
One of the best features (or worst, from the point of view of programmers) of Android devices is the incredible variety of phones and tablets that use it, not to mention the individual manufacturer changes to the Android system. This allows us to always have a different device than everyone else, but it also means not always being able to enjoy the unique features reserved for a group of top of the range smartphones. As you’re probably starting to realize, root permissions also allow us to do this. In forums like XDA Developers there is a wealth of flashable zips available for all sorts of features, scripts and functions. In addition, we can enable limited functions from specific manufacturers, such as installing LG’s Knock On feature on non-LG devices, or using features such as tethering to share and connect phones via USB, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.
10. Become the master of your universe
This is actually one of the most convincing reasons to root your phone. You bought it, so it’s yours and you don’t want to be told what you can or cannot do with your own property. Android, by its very nature, is a free system born from the idea of creating an ecosystem of independent software and hardware that is open to everyone Getting root permission, in addition to the benefits listed above and many more that I could mention, will make you the ”real” owner of your smartphone, giving you complete control, albeit with some risks, of customizing basically anything you want to, exactly how you want it. And this is perhaps the best part of rooting your Android.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
rquinn19 said:
And what custom roms were you running on your iPhone?
edit: Must not feed troll...
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Didn't need one. A jailbreak was enough. iOS is flawless. I made a mistake buying this ****. But hey the speakers are nice.
scoot0073 said:
1. A whole new world of apps
Android offers a wide range of apps for every situation, but when you want something that offers a somewhat ”more advanced” function you usually require root level permissions. Having root permission simply means to be an ”administrator” of your device, so you have control over deeper interactions with the system. This allows us to uninstall bloatware (pre-loaded apps), control firewalls, management systems and even enable gesture controls through multi-touch modifications. There are also apps that work fine without root, but whose full potential is only realized with root, such as antivirus apps, with their locking systems/remote access or CleanMaster, which lets you remove bloatware if you are rooted.
2. Customize like never before
Android devices are famous for their ability to change launcher, icon packs, live wallpapers, ringtones, keyboard sounds and much more. However, this customization is usually limited to superficial aesthetic changes. With root permissions you can modify the system files to your liking, including system sounds as well as the boot animation, which is what you see when you start your device up. The level of customization that is possible is near-limitless, but you can only start to see how deep the rabbit hole goes once you’ve taken the first step.
3. Performance beyond all limits
There are already many apps that can free up your RAM or speed up your phone, and However, with ”normal” methods it is not possible to overcome the limitations imposed by the hardware itself, but only to work within those predefined limits. Once again, root permission comes to the rescue, allowing you to modify the actual speed of the CPU via overclocking. To do this it is necessary to flash a custom kernel – the link connecting your hardware to software – that allows it, but the process is very simple, even more so using the app Kernel Manager.
4. No more problems with the battery
Smartphones continue to evolve, but the Achilles heel of the battery has not yet been resolved. Although the best phones can guarantee 24 hours of use (and beyond, thanks to power-saving features), many of us fail to get to the end of the evening. Solution? Buy yourself the LG G3, the new king of the battery! Or, if you’re not going to shell out that kind of money, or because you are simply loyal to your current smartphone, you can root and solve the problem yourself. With root you can access a number of functions that will allow you to choose how much power goes to the CPU, so setting a lower limit, called undervolting, can make significant savings in terms of power consumption. Again, you’ll need a different kernel to the one your phone came with.
5. Automate everything
Many of you already know the application Tasker, which allows us to automate virtually every aspect of our smartphones. For those not in the know, on the basis of an event (such as the insertion of the headphones, our specific location, a particular time of day etc) we can match an action to it (launch apps, send text messages, play a song) – all managed by this application. It also works without root permissions, but with them we will be able to access the complete list of possible interactions, such as activation of the internet, GPS, screen control, CPU speed, and much more.
6. Flash custom ROMs
This is the number one reason why the majority of Android users decide to get root permissions. In addition to radically (or subtly) customizing a smartphone, the major custom ROMs we like the most tend to outdo the stock ROM in terms of functionality, performance and fluidity; an example is OmniROM, who are working on a ROM for fully integrated voice commands, allowing you to control every function of your smartphone via voice commands. Another important feature is the ability to upgrade our old and manufacturer-abandoned smartphone with the latest versions of Android. Here’s our list of the most important custom ROM and root terms explained.
7. Block advertizing
While advertizing is, for many developers, their only source of income and the only thing that allows them to create otherwise free apps, it can also be a nuisance that you want to eliminate from your smartphone experience. If an app contains invasive advertising that not only consumes a large amount of data but that can also potentially trigger subscriptions without our consent, as we’ve seen repeatedly with WhatsApp, it’s a problem that can be dealt with if you have root. Apps like AdBlock Plus give you control over the advertizing contained in apps and browsers. The use of this application and of other similar ones is possible only for those with root level permissions.
8. Perform full backups
Every Android device has the ability to make a backup of applications and certain data, within the settings menu or through the use of management software like Samsung’s Kies. Even if you decide to use these options together with various cloud services, nothing can ultimately compete with the features offered by root permission backups. For example, it is only with root that you can use the legendary app Titanium Backup, with which you can make copies of the entire system image of your device and move it to your SD card or computer. You also have the the ability to automate the process at regular intervals.
9. Access features from other phones
One of the best features (or worst, from the point of view of programmers) of Android devices is the incredible variety of phones and tablets that use it, not to mention the individual manufacturer changes to the Android system. This allows us to always have a different device than everyone else, but it also means not always being able to enjoy the unique features reserved for a group of top of the range smartphones. As you’re probably starting to realize, root permissions also allow us to do this. In forums like XDA Developers there is a wealth of flashable zips available for all sorts of features, scripts and functions. In addition, we can enable limited functions from specific manufacturers, such as installing LG’s Knock On feature on non-LG devices, or using features such as tethering to share and connect phones via USB, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.
10. Become the master of your universe
This is actually one of the most convincing reasons to root your phone. You bought it, so it’s yours and you don’t want to be told what you can or cannot do with your own property. Android, by its very nature, is a free system born from the idea of creating an ecosystem of independent software and hardware that is open to everyone Getting root permission, in addition to the benefits listed above and many more that I could mention, will make you the ”real” owner of your smartphone, giving you complete control, albeit with some risks, of customizing basically anything you want to, exactly how you want it. And this is perhaps the best part of rooting your Android.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
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Thanks for the android advertisement. Doesn't help with anything though. This OS is garbage. HTC also seemed to make it worse. But my phone is made out of aluminum which is pretty cool.
Stop complaining about the phone and just pay for sunshine s-off.
The issue is not your phone, but lack of research before buying.
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If you want a 4.4.2 ROM, there are still some good ones. But you haven't stated why you even need or want a custom ROM at all, so its impossible to recommend anything until you do so.
You created a thread to ask for help ,but at same time you wanna bash something that you know nothing about. People on here are more than welcome to help you but by being negative is not going to help.
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redpoint73 said:
Stop complaining about the phone and just pay for sunshine s-off.
The issue is not your phone, but lack of research before buying.
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If you want a 4.4.2 ROM, there are still some good ones. But you haven't stated why you even need or want a custom ROM at all, so its impossible to recommend anything until you do so.
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Ok pretty much the only reason is the crazy ass battery drain. This phone is less than a month old and 100% can't last a day with light use. Seriously the battery % drops by the minute when I'm simply browsing the web. That's the only reason. Everything else seems like a bonus. But why should I have to spend $25 to have a decent battery?
Edit : I did read online that AT&T has a battery drain issue and that's why they are holding back updates. I did re-calibrate the battery didn't work. Factory resetting the phone also didn't work. After that I went to AT&T and the dude told me it's typical for HTC devices to drain that fast and tried to sell me a galaxy. I don't mean to be offensive, I'm just very disappointed and now I'm stuck with this phone for over a year.
nigerlet said:
Ok pretty much the only reason is the crazy ass battery drain. This phone is less than a month old and 100% can't last a day with light use. Seriously the battery % drops by the minutes when I'm simply browsing the web. That's the only reason. Everything else seems like a bonus. But why should I have to spend $25 to have a decent battery?
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Battery life is a complicated issue on any device, no matter what OS.
A few basic battery saving tips:
1) Turn off "auto" brightness and turn down the screen to the lowest brightness you find palatable (50% works for me).
2) Turn off GPS when not in use
3) Turn off sync for services you don't use
You should also check the signal strength (dBm) under Settings>About>Network>Signal Strength, and post what you see there.
Its also possible that AT&T bloat is killing the battery (some folks have had the issue) but it may not be a silver bullet.
It might just be a matter of using an app like Watchdog Task Manager to see what is eating the battery, and freezing or removing that app (if its not a critical one).
Alternately, I found that GoldenEye was a nice cleaned up "stockish" ROM back in olden times when I was on 4.4.2. I found it to run well on AT&T, and is "international" based so therefore devoid of any AT&T meddling:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2705640
redpoint73 said:
Battery life is a complicated issue on any device, no matter what OS.
Its possible that AT&T bloat is killing the battery (some folks have had the issue) but it may not be a silver bullet.
It might just be a matter of using an app like Watchdog Task Manager to see what is eating the battery, and freezing or removing that app (if its not a critical one).
Alternately, I found that GoldenEye was a nice cleaned up "stockish" ROM back in olden times when I was on 4.4.2. I found it to run well on AT&T, and is "international" based so therefore devoid of any AT&T meddling:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2705640
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I guess I'll just pay the $25. I want the best if I'm getting a custom rom. And like I said in the edit post above I am stuck with this phone for over a year. Thanks for the help, sorry for being salty.
nigerlet said:
I guess I'll just pay the $25. I want the best if I'm getting a custom rom. And like I said in the edit post above I am stuck with this phone for over a year. Thanks for the help, sorry for being salty.
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I've reconfigured my previous post to include some basic power saving tips. It occurred to me that if Android is new to you, battery life may be something rather simple, like screen brightness.
Check it out, and see if it helps.
I had typed up a message but you guys ninja'd me coming back to decency and handling things, so forget I was ever here.
As to the battery thing, I recommend flashing an AOSP ROM with nano or pico gapps. I've always gotten much better battery life using AOSP over Sense.
I never experienced the battery drain issue as a lot of others did.but then again 2 days after purchasing my At&T M8 I went to Sunshine and played the 25 to s-off. But coming from a iPhone/IOS after many years of use to another different manufacturer and OS I could totally understand your frustrations. I have never owned a IOS device always had and stayed with Android but I'd be in the exactly same boat as you if I did switch. Just be patient and read and ask questions , and welcome to the forum's
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nigerlet said:
I am new to this, after switching from an iPhone.
And so far it has been sooo confusing.
I have learned that you cannot get ViperOne on AT&T without S-off because they haven't updated to 4.4.4
But the guide doesn't mention that? Luckily I asked on their IRC before I tried.
I am wondering if there are any good custom roms for 4.4.2 with S-On.
After learning about ViperOne and having no warning that it won't work on AT&T, I am skeptical if their are any that will work.
I am new to this. and I'm very surprised the official guide on Venomroms.com doesn't warn you that it doesn't work on AT&T without S-off.
Coming from using and iPhone for the last 3-4 years this seems ridiculous. So any help would be greatly appreciated.
Also is it HTC that makes it so hard to root , unlock, and customize? Or is it Android? I'm having a hard time understanding why everyone recommends android. I had no idea you had to pay money to load custom roms.
Edit - So I just read that you can't flash custom firmware without being S-Off. Guess that answers the question. This phone sucks. No wonder why iPhone 6 was still out of stock.
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Uhm, you dont have to be 4.4.4 to run the Viper rom nor do you have to be S-OFF. Just go to their site and download 2.5.0 which is the build that will run on AT&T's current 4.4.2. Once AT&T pushes the 4.4.4 update flash the 4.4.4 RUU then go back and flash Viper 3.2.1.
Dude, my M8 can go 2 days EASY. Simply the best phone that has been released yet.
I'm curious as well... I was running cm12 on my m7 but recently had to get a m8.. now im running into all sorts of issues. all i want is a stable sense/ lollipop rom. I want to stay s-on... htcdev's team frowns on s-off. HELP?!?
bford152 said:
I'm curious as well... I was running cm12 on my m7 but recently had to get a m8.. now im running into all sorts of issues. all i want is a stable sense/ lollipop rom.
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The ROMs are plenty stable. If you have issues, its likely due to firmware that is not compatible with the ROM.
bford152 said:
I want to stay s-on... htcdev's team frowns on s-off.
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What does that even mean? If you want full flexibility to mod the phone as you like, s-off the phone.
What I'm trying to ask, without s-off'ing the device, what custom roms based on lollipop on ATT software ver 4.4.2?
I think you want the Dev edition lollipop RUU. You will need to change CID and can be s-on. You will loose AT&T visual voicemail functionality (but might be able to add that back in with a mod) and no at&t specific apps will come with RUU, but the Dev edition is same code base as at&t version and will work on at&t device.
tommy_riley said:
I think you want the Dev edition lollipop RUU. You will need to change CID and can be s-on. You will loose AT&T visual voicemail functionality (but might be able to add that back in with a mod) and no at&t specific apps will come with RUU, but the Dev edition is same code base as at&t version and will work on at&t device.
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Don't you have to be s-off to change cid?