Hi,
I bought a LG G2 Mini second hand that has been used for about 7 months...sometimes it takes 2-3 hours to get full charge and other times it takes 5-7 hours with the same charger and conection (the charger that came with the device and the wall conection), it doesnt even say that its on a slow charge
It happens sometimes also that the battery gets drained for no reason, leaving it iddle with only wifi and 2g it can las betwin 20 hours and 240 (the last one was only once, generaly what i feel happy to get is 120). When i see what is using the battery it says wifi, screen and a very little of system
Thanks
Sir,
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First of all Wi-Fi drains battery, this is a common knowledge. Secondly since it second hand also the charger can be" not-original. Those tend to mess up the battery good. Decreasing it's life.
I recommend using : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats&hl=en
If it is software related this will make you understand what is causing the drain, may be a wake-lock..
If it is hardware related first identify if the charger is original. If it is not change it, if it is your battery is probably fulfilled its life for some reason. You may need to buy another original battery. If you want a long battery life you have to use original parts...
My old Woot gtablet battery decided to fail. I had it stored, grabbed it on a whim and noticed the casing was getting pushed out. Turns out half of the battery pack had expanded considerably. Luckily nothing catastrophic happened, no fires or leakage.
The problem now is I have a tablet with no power. I can't find the battery anywhere. What I'm asking for here is either a source for a new battery pack, or hoping some battery guru spots this and could get me started with rebuilding the original pack... I have no experience rebuilding one.
I really don't want to trash it just because of a battery.
Edit: read more about lipo outgassing, now I'm afraid to rupture it. Rebuilding is a non starter.
Edit 2: if anyone knows the battery pinout that would be helpful too. Building an entirely new battery pack might be the only solution here. I know it's 7.4v, two li-po cells, but that's all I know. I retained the original plug and most of the wire on it.
Edit 3: found the charging controller board but I can't seem to find a supplier of bare cells - all I can find are attached to a controller already.
So my Moto Z 2016 fell into the Android 8.0 Oreo upgrade cluster**** and became a victim of the famous massive battery drainage, to the point it became impossible to use without keeping it plugged to a charger. Thing is one would logically assume this is a software issue, and therefore a rollback/downgrade would be enough to solve this problem. However, after dealing with multiple software upgrades and downgrades for 2-3 days straight with and without RSDLite in every imaginable way possible, I managed to install Android 6.0 Lollipop on the phone and everything works excellently, but the battery keeps having the same issues it had the second that phone got the lovely 8.0 update.
So my questions are: is it even remotely correct to assume the update caused physical damage to the battery? Or -even if I completely reinstalled a totally different Android version- there is still some part of the phone that contains an unmodifiable chunk of software that is corruptedly managing the battery information, therefore making buying a new battery irrelevant?
I'm asking this because I decided to believe in the first question as a yes and was about to proceed to buy a new battery AND a new glue to place the screen again back to where it is, but decided to make this thread to maybe avoid buying things that could've been unnecesary. Thanks in advance.
It's time to get a new battery.
Mine is pretty much okay with Oreo update back then. But after just 1++ year usage (bought it in Sept 2017), the battery life just dropped significantly.
Replaced it, and now it working fine. Even the repair center didn't factory reset my device (I'm on Omni ROM), so it couldn't be a software issue.
I can confirm new battery will solve the problem. I had tried everything before I ordered an original battery pack (made by Lg and my phone has juice for more than a day now. (a half before)
I think fast/turbo charging also kill the battery, so now I use a 1,5/2A charger
Ratawar said:
So my Moto Z 2016 fell into the Android 8.0 Oreo upgrade cluster**** and became a victim of the famous massive battery drainage, to the point it became impossible to use without keeping it plugged to a charger. Thing is one would logically assume this is a software issue, and therefore a rollback/downgrade would be enough to solve this problem. However, after dealing with multiple software upgrades and downgrades for 2-3 days straight with and without RSDLite in every imaginable way possible, I managed to install Android 6.0 Lollipop on the phone and everything works excellently, but the battery keeps having the same issues it had the second that phone got the lovely 8.0 update.
So my questions are: is it even remotely correct to assume the update caused physical damage to the battery? Or -even if I completely reinstalled a totally different Android version- there is still some part of the phone that contains an unmodifiable chunk of software that is corruptedly managing the battery information, therefore making buying a new battery irrelevant?
I'm asking this because I decided to believe in the first question as a yes and was about to proceed to buy a new battery AND a new glue to place the screen again back to where it is, but decided to make this thread to maybe avoid buying things that could've been unnecesary. Thanks in advance.
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garyarts said:
I can confirm new battery will solve the problem. I had tried everything before I ordered an original battery pack (made by Lg and my phone has juice for more than a day now. (a half before)
I think fast/turbo charging also kill the battery, so now I use a 1,5/2A charger
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Could you please post a link about the battery pack kit that you said? Is there any different to a Motorola's one (capacity, dimensions etc) ? Thank you.
To our dear friend, I suggest you replace the battery. You are not alone to that issue. It's worth buying new battery. Check this thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/defective-battery-lots-moto-zhigh-t3781335
this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
the same GV30 was in the device (2680maH). There are a lot of non oem batteries btw
tsoump said:
Could you please post a link about the battery pack kit that you said? Is there any different to a Motorola's one (capacity, dimensions etc) ? Thank you.
To our dear friend, I suggest you replace the battery. You are not alone to that issue. It's worth buying new battery. Check this thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/defective-battery-lots-moto-zhigh-t3781335
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garyarts said:
this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
the same GV30 was in the device (2680maH). There are a lot of non oem batteries btw
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Thank you for the quick response. I've noticed that there are many after-market batteries which have larger dimensions than the original. Do you think by just changing the battery to a new one, will solve the problem? I mean it was just effective batteries?
I think the best to replace to the original GV30. It solved the battery problem of my phone right after changing it and I'm not alone with it I guess. I had tried everything before (calibration, doze apps, etc). Nothing works if the cells of the battery are dead. It's a hardware issue
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Thank you for the quick response. I've noticed that there are many after-market batteries which have larger dimensions than the original. Do you think by just changing the battery to a new one, will solve the problem? I mean it was just effective batteries?
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I think the best to replace to the original GV30. It solved the battery problem of my phone right after changing it and I'm not alone with it I guess. I had tried everything before (calibration, doze apps, etc). Nothing works if the cells of the battery are dead. It's a hardware issue
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Yeap! This is the conclusion, bad cells in the battery. I also believe the problem enhanced by the turbo charger, as you said... :/ But, how to prove it... (?)
Prove? I can prove in a year
Just think about it. It's simple physics, faster thermal expansion kills cells. That's why they're said not to let discharged fully. Or whatever
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Yeap! This is the conclusion, bad cells in the battery. I also believe the problem enhanced by the turbo charger, as you said... :/ But, how to prove it... (?)
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Hi there,
did anyone tried https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOS...-01-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-GV40/32842305696.html battery?
Thanks!
moemos said:
Hi there,
did anyone tried https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOS...-01-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-GV40/32842305696.html battery?
Thanks!
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Look, many customers have tried these extended batteries but noone can prove that this myth works! On the other hand, many videos and comments have uploaded on the internet and people have shared their experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hRdg75PAMw
I believe that it's impossible to extend a battery capacity while the space inside the phone is very specific.
A project, though, is in progress by a member of XDA who is trying to replace GV30 to GV40 battery: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/help/replace-gv30-gv40-t3896369
You'll want a battery that's SMALLER capacity than the oem. The issue is that lithium ion batteries hate being thinned out so trying to put the 2600maH OEM battery inside this chassis is a recipe for disaster. I believe the iFixit battery is around 2400maH.
I think we'd be fine with shorter life than stock. What many are missing is consistent battery life. It's one thing to get 2hours SOT, it's another to be at 80% and have it shutdown.
jonshipman said:
You'll want a battery that's SMALLER capacity than the oem. The issue is that lithium ion batteries hate being thinned out so trying to put the 2600maH OEM battery inside this chassis is a recipe for disaster. I believe the iFixit battery is around 2400maH.
I think we'd be fine with shorter life than stock. What many are missing is consistent battery life. It's one thing to get 2hours SOT, it's another to be at 80% and have it shutdown.
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It's appropriate to give us a link about these batteries.
I did change the motherboard and the battery to a new one gv30 and I get 3-4 SOT. What's your opinion about gv40 inside moto z?
tsoump said:
It's appropriate to give us a link about these batteries.
I did change the motherboard and the battery to a new one gv30 and I get 3-4 SOT. What's your opinion about gv40 inside moto z?
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Don't do it. The screen will bulge out. There is essentially 0 give inside the Moto Z chassis. If you're fine seeing into the phone, then it'll work for you. However, I'd probably opt for the iFixit kit. It's an official Moto solution, and while it might have the same problem it won't introduce a worse problem.
May batteries you find online will say "OEM" but they are often rebrands. And even if they're just 0.1mm thicker, the screen won't adhere. A proper phone replace shop ordered me a replacement battery and it was too thick. This was a year ago, and I eventually just replaced it with a $300 new Moto Z from Amazon (I had broken my screen replacing the battery myself).
I don't know the links persay, but I see there's this one from SWARK https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Compatible-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-XT1650-01/dp/B07GQWHLH1
I haven't tried that one myself, but I'd be curious to see the thickness.
Just replacing my moto z battery with cheap (fake?) gv30 that i buy for only around $7 in my local (Indonesia) marketplace
Please look the attached picture for its (peak) performance, and this how i got those number:
- charge to 91% with 5v/1.2A charger (ASUS charger)
- watching movie for 3 hours with airplane mode and bluetooth earphone on
- sleeping with airplane mode on
- using my phone normally with wifi on and data off until the battery reach 3%
Thank you all for your answers and sharing your experiences.
Unfortunately, after buying all I needed from the USA (battery pack and 2 B7000 glue blisters shipped to Argentina) I proceeded to attempt to fix the phone. While heating up the screen to remove it, I burned all of the LCD corners and completely ruined the screen. I don't know what did I do so differently from all of the technicians in videotutorials where thay apply the exact same or even more heat on the screen and still left it intact, but there's nothing that can be done about it except buying a new screen replacement, but since we didn't want to spend much money on this phone, we just discarded it. Such a shame and disgraceful event, it still bugs me out.
So this is a long debate I guess,
Should I charge my device overnight and sleep? Does it affect my phone's health. My uncle who happens to be a telecom engineer and also thinks of him as a pro in Electronics says there is an auto circuit that cuts off as soon as the battery reaches to 100.
As far as I have read hardware, the auto-cut feature is present only in selected high end phones.
I don't want to end up with wrong infos.
And please people posting to this thread, please do not provide haphazard info. I need to get this doubt off my head.
Hello,
I like the 6P so much I purchased a pair of used phones. One needs a battery and I found ifixit has no intention of ordering more battery replacement kits. Regardless, since one of my 6P's continues to run without issue I need to get the other operational. If anyone knows a person that is skilled at replacing the batteries in these phones please let me know. I am very concerned about letting someone else replace the battery in view of the steps that have to be performed. Damaging the lower plastic cover and upper glass plate seem far to easy to do...
Doesn't look that bad. As long as cheap replacement panels are available don't sweat it.
It has a AMOLED display so anhydrous isopropyl alcohol can be used if needed.
If who's ever doing it has the right tools, skillset and takes their time it should be easily doable.
I've watched all the battery replacement video's I could find and I saw this post regarding an extended battery on aliexpress w/2yr warranty. I just prefer to get more acceptance of this battery before buying it.
New higher capacity battery finished the shutting down problems and gives new life
Recently I replaced the battery of my Nexus 6P that was unusable in a cabinet for a long time due to the shutting down issues. I found on Aliexpress a high capacity battery and I decided to try my luck, changed the battery and I can tell you that...
forum.xda-developers.com
I also located the original Huawei battery and neither of my 6P's exhibited the power off at moderate battery charge levels so I think I'm clear of that problem. The goal is to use one of these for XDA dev and the other for UBports dev.
RVC46 said:
I've watched all the battery replacement video's I could find and I saw this post regarding an extended battery on aliexpress w/2yr warranty. I just prefer to get more acceptance of this battery before buying it.
New higher capacity battery finished the shutting down problems and gives new life
Recently I replaced the battery of my Nexus 6P that was unusable in a cabinet for a long time due to the shutting down issues. I found on Aliexpress a high capacity battery and I decided to try my luck, changed the battery and I can tell you that...
forum.xda-developers.com
I also located the original Huawei battery and neither of my 6P's exhibited the power off at moderate battery charge levels so I think I'm clear of that problem. The goal is to use one of these for XDA dev and the other for UBports dev.
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Get the exact OEM replacement if possible. Forget the extra high capacity bs.
The manufacturer generally make the OEM batteries as big as they can. Some of the trade offs for a higher capacity battery the same size may be safety.
Thanks for the confirmation on this. I suspected I was on the right track with OEM. I also found the replacement plastic cover on the lower back cover if it becomes necessary to place it.
I may have found the OEM battery at aliexpress:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002262537684.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.449a363dHBm8Xi&algo_pvid=483efaef-fc3e-4641-96a0-1fc1d109ae5f&algo_exp_id=483efaef-fc3e-4641-96a0-1fc1d109ae5f-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000019802398066%22%7D&pdp_pi=-1%3B10.68%3B-1%3B-1%40salePrice%3BUSD%3Bsearch-mainSearch
However, I emailed Huawei to see if I could get correct information from them before acting. I'll post the response from Huawei if I receive one.