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Hello guys this guide is for who want to root phone without disabling ota updates.
(BOOTLOODER SHOULD BE UNLOCK)
BIG THANKS FOR MAKING PATCHED BOOT IMg @Jan.Pul
IAM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY CAUSE OF YOUR DEVICE DO IT ON OWN RISK)
1)Download patched boot.img from link below
2)copy that patched boot.img to your adb folder
3) adb debugging should be on and oem unlock should be on for unlock bootlooder
4)turn off your device and go into fastboot mode by pressing holding volume down and power key
5) check whether fastboot detect your device or not by typing this command on (cmd) FASTBOOT DEVICES
6) if fastboot shows that your device is connected your good to go
7) you need to boot into patched boot.img for this type a command FASTBOOT BOOT patched_boot.img your device will boot automatically
8) download magisk manager apk from google and. Open ur magisk manager and install ad direct method and reboot
If you get bootloop dont worry just press your power key for 5sec it will boot automatically
PATCH BOOT IMG : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cU6qOMiHlGdSAbRtMVgTlHummcGksnt6/view?usp=drivesdk
Guessing this is for the Indian/Chinese version and the bnd-l24 is still sitting on the shelf? And rooting without making a backup isn't usually the smartest thing to do but we all know that.
Is there a source this came from by any chance?
Yes..But Why?
maximran said:
maximran said:
this guide is for who want to root phone without disabling ota updates.
(IAM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR AMY CAUSE OF YOUR DEVICE DO IT ON OWN RISK)
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str8stryk3r said:
rooting without making a backup isn't usually the smartest thing to do but we all know that.
Is there a source this came from by any chance?
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I Eh... Would Love To See This Happen..
I'm... still at a loss to understand why so many people want to root the 7x... Now?
There is an adaway substitute available... ( Search it if you care to ) no root needed.
You can adjust DPI...
You have Themes....
You can remove apps from user view... ( Search it if you care to )
And.... removing unwanted apps WILL NOT free up more RAM.. RAM Management will just fill the allotted space with something else...
You need to make a backup ??? Eh.... Your Stock Software WILL NOT FAIL Unless you are in there messing with it or, are installing illegal apps that are cancering your unit.
Battery Management apps like Greenify? really? how many of you even have to use the Power Saving options already installed in the 7x? I'm getting a day and a half easy.. without using any of the Power Saving options.. YMMV of course.
Oreo is 3 to 4 weeks away.
There still, is No Stock Image Available from Honor to turn to should your Rooting efforts fail you.
So, What possible benefits are you getting by Rooting Nougat Now..
It's YOUR device.. and I wish you the best of luck should you find a reason that you feel justifies the need to root right now..
I'm going to Root my 7x as well... once a Stock Image is available from Honor and, EMUI / OREO 8.0 , The Updated Security Patch and Facial Unlock / AR options are delivered.. That will hold me for the 6 - 7 months I'll own the 7x.
I am just so curious why so many would gamble with Root.. with no clear cut method of being able to recover from a catastrophe.... and no real benefit at this time.
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RaiderWill said:
maximran said:
I Eh... Would Love To See This Happen..
I'm... still at a loss to understand why so many people want to root the 7x... Now?
There is an adaway substitute available... ( Search it if you care to ) no root needed.
You can adjust DPI...
You have Themes....
You can remove apps from user view... ( Search it if you care to )
And.... removing unwanted apps WILL NOT free up more RAM.. RAM Management will just fill the allotted space with something else...
You need to make a backup ??? Eh.... Your Stock Software WILL NOT FAIL Unless you are in there messing with it or, are installing illegal apps that are cancering your unit.
Battery Management apps like Greenify? really? how many of you even have to use the Power Saving options already installed in the 7x? I'm getting a day and a half easy.. without using any of the Power Saving options.. YMMV of course.
Oreo is 3 to 4 weeks away.
There still, is No Stock Image Available from Honor to turn to should your Rooting efforts fail you.
So, What possible benefits are you getting by Rooting Nougat Now..
It's YOUR device.. and I wish you the best of luck should you find a reason that you feel justifies the need to root right now..
I'm going to Root my 7x as well... once a Stock Image is available from Honor and, EMUI / OREO 8.0 , The Updated Security Patch and Facial Unlock / AR options are delivered.. That will hold me for the 6 - 7 months I'll own the 7x.
I am just so curious why so many would gamble with Root.. with no clear cut method of being able to recover from a catastrophe.... and no real benefit at this time.
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Oh I agree with ya. I'm not fooling with mine until a definitive stable method comes out after oreo. I might even hold off until we start getting some custom rooms and kernels. I've unlocked my bootloader and that's about the extent of my Honor 7x modding for the time being.
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A Question Sir..
str8stryk3r said:
RaiderWill said:
Oh I agree with ya. I'm not fooling with mine until a definitive stable method comes out after oreo. I might even hold off until we start getting some custom rooms and kernels. I've unlocked my bootloader and that's about the extent of my Honor 7x modding for the time being.
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Have You Tried "Re-Locking" Your Bootloader.. And Then Doing A Factory Reset?
Just asking because.. I thought.. (And I Could Be 100% WRONG) I read somewhere that, relocking using the command line causes the 7x to brick..
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str8stryk3r said:
Have You Tried "Re-Locking" Your Bootloader.. And Then Doing A Factory Reset?
Just asking because.. I thought.. (And I Could Be 100% WRONG) I read somewhere that, relocking using the command line causes the 7x to brick..
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No I unlocked the bootloader so I wouldn't have to in the future. Why, bootloader unlocking China cause me to not be able to do ota updates? I was under the impression that only rooting and installing twrp would cause issues with ota but I could've read wrong
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@maximran, root with Magisk "KEEPFORCEENCRYPT=true"; but if I change to "false", should work too?
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No I unlocked the bootloader so I wouldn't have to in the future. Why, bootloader unlocking China cause me to not be able to do ota updates? I was under the impression that only rooting and installing twrp would cause issues with ota but I could've read wrong
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True, even I have unlocked my bootloader but I still received OTA.
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@maximran, root with Magisk "KEEPFORCEENCRYPT=true"; but if I change to "false", should work too?
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It will not work
Interesting!
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RaiderWill said:
No I unlocked the bootloader so I wouldn't have to in the future. Why, bootloader unlocking China cause me to not be able to do ota updates? I was under the impression that only rooting and installing twrp would cause issues with ota but I could've read wrong
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True, even I have unlocked my bootloader but I still received OTA.
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Really ?
Please.. let me know once the update arrives.
I've NEVER seen a Signed O.T.A. software update package walk through the front door of a device with an Unsecured Bootloader.
Aren't you guys getting the "Exclamation Warning" screen when you first boot up letting you know your device is officially "Unsecure" ?
I'm not rooting Nougat.. just curious.. you normally get an "Update Failed!" message.. Thanks!
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RaiderWill said:
str8stryk3r said:
Asder.mko said:
Really ?
Please.. let me know once the update arrives.
I've NEVER seen a Signed O.T.A. software update package walk through the front door of a device with an Unsecured Bootloader.
Aren't you guys getting the "Exclamation Warning" screen when you first boot up letting you know your device is officially "Unsecure" ?
I'm not rooting Nougat.. just curious.. you normally get an "Update Failed!" message.. Thanks!
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Well, I got the OTA in December itself but since I had rooted and installed twrp recovery, I wasn't able to install the update.
Yes, we get that " your device is not secure... Blah blah blah..."
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RaiderWill said:
str8stryk3r said:
Asder.mko said:
Really ?
Please.. let me know once the update arrives.
I've NEVER seen a Signed O.T.A. software update package walk through the front door of a device with an Unsecured Bootloader.
Aren't you guys getting the "Exclamation Warning" screen when you first boot up letting you know your device is officially "Unsecure" ?
I'm not rooting Nougat.. just curious.. you normally get an "Update Failed!" message.. Thanks!
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Before I went ahead an unlocked my bootloader I checked as many sources as I could about if whether or not I'd still be able ota update and the vast majority of the things I read states that what causes the update to fail is not having stock rom and not having stock recovery. The bootloader being unlocked doesn't modify those or any system files so everything should be fine. Unless Huawei changed things specifically for our Honor 7x then there shouldn't be any problems with ota updates. I guess I'll find out when the L24 people start saying they got updates and I don't receive it or can't install it
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Well, that's quite right. I don't know whether Huawei/Honor implemented THAT thing, but yeah reverting back to stock conditions wand applying OTA wouldn't be an issue!
( P.S - I'm stuck here too as I have OTA update since December but haven't reverted to stock to install it. I don't yet know properly about manual installation! )
(I haven't received my 7x yet and I haven't had any recent experience with Huawei OTA updates and I am not advocating that anyone should alter their phones in any way which would void their warranties... )
However, I was surprised to hear in this forum that Huawei has made things more restrictive since the Mate2. Given that you can still obtain bootloader unlock codes (and the only reason AFAIK is to allow you to flash a new recovery) and that Huawei has publicly committed to open-source and has given 7x's to developers, it seems contrary to a "lockdown" philosophy. Rather, it would appear as they are still encouraging 3rd party development to prolong product lifespan in order to attract cheapskates like me who still use a 4-year old phone.
Things may have changed but In order to get OTA updates, here were some of the issues on the Mate2 :
Some people had a difficult time obtaining the bootloader unlock codes. Either you can get a code or you couldn't. Without an unlocked bootloader, you can't flash a different recovery.
You "can't" flash TWRP. That's not entirely true. You needed to restore the appropriate version of Huawei recovery before each OTA, because update.zip can only be interpreted by the appropriate recovery. (Think format differences between CWM and TWRP.)
You were able to root and still obtain OTA. (Albeit, there was only one OTA. The rest had to be downloaded to SD and flashed. But that was okay back then 'cause no one outside of China really knew about Huawei.) The updates weren't checking whether you had modified the existing software or not. Once you've voided your warranty, Huawei didn't care if you then decide to then make your phone more vulnerable or accidentally brick it. The problem was that the update could fail if you remove a piece of bloatware that Huawei decided to update. (The folders would be missing for example. And the update would not recover gracefully.)
But a big THANKS to previous posters which reminded me to backup everything (basically as soon as I receive my 7x).
Oh....if you are flashing a custom recovery, you should also backup the "stock" recovery after each OTA update. Sometimes the recovery is also updated. (That's what I meant by "appropriate" version.)
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(I haven't received my 7x yet and I haven't had any recent experience with Huawei OTA updates and I am not advocating that anyone should alter their phones in any way which would void their warranties... )
However, I was surprised to hear in this forum that Huawei has made things more restrictive since the Mate2. Given that you can still obtain bootloader unlock codes (and the only reason AFAIK is to allow you to flash a new recovery) and that Huawei has publicly committed to open-source and has given 7x's to developers, it seems contrary to a "lockdown" philosophy. Rather, it would appear as they are still encouraging 3rd party development to prolong product lifespan in order to attract cheapskates like me who still use a 4-year old phone.
Things may have changed but In order to get OTA updates, here were some of the issues on the Mate2 :
Some people had a difficult time obtaining the bootloader unlock codes. Either you can get a code or you couldn't. Without an unlocked bootloader, you can't flash a different recovery.
You "can't" flash TWRP. That's not entirely true. You needed to restore the appropriate version of Huawei recovery before each OTA, because update.zip can only be interpreted by the appropriate recovery. (Think format differences between CWM and TWRP.)
You were able to root and still obtain OTA. (Albeit, there was only one OTA. The rest had to be downloaded to SD and flashed. But that was okay back then 'cause no one outside of China really knew about Huawei.) The updates weren't checking whether you had modified the existing software or not. Once you've voided your warranty, Huawei didn't care if you then decide to then make your phone more vulnerable or accidentally brick it. The problem was that the update could fail if you remove a piece of bloatware that Huawei decided to update. (The folders would be missing for example. And the update would not recover gracefully.)
But a big THANKS to previous posters which reminded me to backup everything (basically as soon as I receive my 7x).
Oh....if you are flashing a custom recovery, you should also backup the "stock" recovery after each OTA update. Sometimes the recovery is also updated. (That's what I meant by "appropriate" version.)
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My thoughts exactly. Why would they provide they website to unlock the bootloader if that kept ota updates from going through. The only thing that's really holding back the development of this device is Huawei hasn't released the full stock firmware package yet. I have the L24 version so it's exciting seeing L21/A10 making some progress because it's only a matter of time until things start to kick off all around.
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My thoughts exactly. Why would they provide they website to unlock the bootloader if that kept ota updates from going through. The only thing that's really holding back the development of this device is Huawei hasn't released the full stock firmware package yet. I have the L24 version so it's exciting seeing L21/A10 making some progress because it's only a matter of time until things start to kick off all around.
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No need for full fw broh need vendor partitions, device tree, kernel sources
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No need for full fw broh need vendor partitions, device tree, kernel sources
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Lmao, and that's why I'm not a developer. I just know having the stock image files is important so that when something gets screwed up got have something to fall back on.
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Yes, we get that " your device is not secure... Blah blah blah..."
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That Answers My Question As To Wether Or Not You Do See The Unsecure Msg..
Anyway.. Great Discussion.
Fact or Fiction... who will get the updates via O.T.A. ? The Non-Rooted, The Rooted.. or Both.
Even with Project Treble... will this device ever take off with Developer support ?
Will Huawei / Honor release a stock image of Nougat and Oreo ? ( Eh, Honor.. it's been 60 days since Kernel source was released.. and you know people are Rooting away.. why have you not released the stock Nougat image for the 7x?) and don't use working on EMUI & OREO as an excuse.. that's simply not good enough.. :angel:
I'm going to enjoy laying back... and watching how this unfolds.
Re-Reading my own words, as to what is the motivation for everyone Rooting Nougat now.. and what is anyone getting out of doing it.. because so much of what you would normally do with Admin Access is already incorperated into the 7x.. is there really a need to even Root whats coming without something like a Stable Linage / Franco Kernel combo ROM available vs a 100% stable Factory Fresh EMUI / Oreo 8.0 setup.
For me, it will be a fun to see what key Developers, ROM's and support in general.. the 7x actually gets.. and at what point they release firmware for restoration purposes.
You Just Never Know.
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That Answers My Question As To Wether Or Not You Do See The Unsecure Msg..
Anyway.. Great Discussion.
Fact or Fiction... who will get the updates via O.T.A. ? The Non-Rooted, The Rooted.. or Both.
Even with Project Treble... will this device ever take off with Developer support ?
Will Huawei / Honor release a stock image of Nougat and Oreo ? ( Eh, Honor.. it's been 60 days since Kernel source was released.. and you know people are Rooting away.. why have you not released the stock Nougat image for the 7x?) and don't use working on EMUI & OREO as an excuse.. that's simply not good enough.. :angel:
I'm going to enjoy laying back... and watching how this unfolds.
Re-Reading my own words, as to what is the motivation for everyone Rooting Nougat now.. and what is anyone getting out of doing it.. because so much of what you would normally do with Admin Access is already incorperated into the 7x.. is there really a need to even Root whats coming without something like a Stable Linage / Franco Kernel combo ROM available vs a 100% stable Factory Fresh EMUI / Oreo 8.0 setup.
For me, it will be a fun to see what key Developers, ROM's and support in general.. the 7x actually gets.. and at what point they release firmware for restoration purposes.
You Just Never Know.
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People like to root and mod their own devices for their own reasons but you're right, a lot of the reasons I modded past devices was because the roms almost always ran better than stock but the 7x imho runs great. Used to be kernels for better battery life and such. I like custom roms because I like to be able to do certain things that stock roms limited as far as customizing goes. A lot of people hate bloat and end up deleting every file on the phone that isn't necessary or to their liking to make the rom as minimal as possible.
But as of now I'm happy with the phone and don't feel the urge to need to root and and a custom recovery. The roms that eventually come would have to offer something worthwhile to flash. But hell, that's subject to change given how I'm feeling that day lol. There's a new AOSP based rom in another thread that sounds promising
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Will Huawei / Honor release a stock image of Nougat and Oreo ? ...
Re-Reading my own words, as to what is the motivation for everyone Rooting Nougat now.. and what is anyone getting out of doing it.. because so much of what you would normally do with Admin Access is already incorperated into the 7x..
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I assume that you already know this ... but I should mention it for others that you can run TWRP (if there is a version for one's phone) without flashing it. (I don't have my 7x yet, so I prob really shouldn't be trying to give detailed instructions anyways.) From there, you can make backups of the stock image, stock recovery, etc. (So thx again to this forum for reminding me that I should backup all stock images as soon as I receive my 7x so that MY fingerprints are not all over the backups.)
As to rooting, there ARE at least 2 things that Huawei hasn't provided without root:
Yes, I can make app backups (and/or use the Huawei "easy transfer"... not sure what app that is at the moment) but I'd assume that I won't be able to transfer it to a non-Huawei device. That's why I continue to use Titanium Backup.
USB Mass Storage Enabling (and by extension Selinux Passive mode). I want fast transfer to my desktop, etc.... and I want a drive-letter (yes, there are Win programs which only work with drive letters). Without UMS, I haven't found a way to do that.
Hello,
Recently the forced upgrade of the Sony Xperia X OS to Oreo destroyed certain functionalities which were critical to my phone's utility. Functionalities for which I had indeed selected and purchased the phone in the first place. Having suffered similar problems in the past, I postponed the upgrade for weeks and sought advice from Sony on declining the update. Of course they said this was not an option and that my files would be unaffected, and of course this was false information.
As someone on the Autism spectrum, I have always struggled with digital merchandise and the tendency for suppliers to alter their products after I have purchased them. It is necessary for me to have consistency, and to be able to organize things in a certain way without worry of having them altered. I familiarize myself with how to use the product and then, silently, menus change, operations reorganize themselves entirely and it becomes difficult to perform the basic tasks that I have learned at great personal difficulty to navigate on my device already. This is a big problem. I do not want the latest and the greatest. I want consistency. I want my device to continue operating as it did when I purchased it less than a year ago.
All of this is to say that when the latest update destroyed the very things that gave my phone value to me and for which I had painstakingly selected it, I was thrown into a mild state of panic. After confirming with Sony that the upgrade was irreversible, and finding no other alternative, I elected to purchase the very same phone that I already owned for a second time, knowing that the Operating System would not yet have been upgraded.
The problem, now, is how to use the phone without risking the same forced OS upgrade and rendering the repurchase entirely pointless.
My understanding is that the only way to accomplish this would be to root the new phone. Please correct me if I am wrong. Given my circumstances, I have always seemed an obvious candidate for rooting my devices in order to maintain control of operations. Unfortunately I am not very technically inclined, and Root tutorials simply bamboozle me with their jargon. Given the sensitive nature of the rooting process, in that it seems very easy to make a misstep or run into complications, I have been excluded from taking advantage of this obvious solution.
Yet here I am, with a brand new phone that I cannot use unless I am able find a way to prevent the Operating System from updating.
My questions are:
Is there any way to block OS updates without rooting, that I am unaware of?
If rooting is the only method, what is the safest way that a layman like myself might confidently pursue this route?
Thank you for your time.
wynden said:
My questions are:
Is there any way to block OS updates without rooting, that I am unaware of?
If rooting is the only method, what is the safest way that a layman like myself might confidently pursue this route?
Thank you for your time.
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No. But if I remember correctly, you can just not update your phone. Or you can try to unpack the firmware, edit it manually, delete the app which updates your system, repack the firmware and flash it. Or you can freeze it through ADB... But, the best way, of course, is root.
It's quite easy if you'll follow the instructions.
In short:
Flash Android 6.0 through Flashtool. Not as hard as it sounds, but it's mandratory.
Save your TA partition. One bat-script on Android 6.0 with locked bootloader, and you are ready.
Unlocking your bootloader. Sony have their own instructions which are pretty easy to follow.
Delete the app which updates your system. The easiest step.
Last: if something went wrong with your hardware - just relock your bootloader with the keys you've backed up - and you have your phone in a factory new condition!
Good luck! Ask here if you need any additional information!
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No. But if I remember correctly, you can just not update your phone.
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Gray, thank you for your reply. It does not seem that just not updating is an option, as the phone keeps harassing the user to download the update, and there is no way to disable those push notifications, as far as I am aware.
In short:
Flash Android 6.0 through Flashtool. Not as hard as it sounds, but it's mandratory.
Save your TA partition. One bat-script on Android 6.0 with locked bootloader, and you are ready.
Unlocking your bootloader. Sony have their own instructions which are pretty easy to follow.
Delete the app which updates your system. The easiest step.
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I appreciate the summary, but I don't know what a flash tool is, or a TA partition, or a bat-script, or a bootloader, etc. This is why I feel unqualified to tackle such a sensitive operation. I have googled instructions on rooting, but since I do not understand what is being asked of me, I cannot proceed. What is the best way for a layman who is easily overwhelmed to familiarize themselves with the technology to become reliably competent at tackling such a project?
Last: if something went wrong with your hardware - just relock your bootloader with the keys you've backed up - and you have your phone in a factory new condition!
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My understanding was that a root was irreversible. This is a major contributor to my trepidation. Is this not the case?
Additionally, I have gathered from various forums that the process of rooting Xperia has been particularly problematic and frequently unsuccessful. Do you know if there is any truth to this? I would not have a clue what to do if I encountered a problem.
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Gray, thank you for your reply. It does not seem that just not updating is an option, as the phone keeps harassing the user to download the update, and there is no way to disable those push notifications, as far as I am aware.
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It's only a push notification, and it can easily be ignored. But it's very annoying, I know.
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I appreciate the summary, but I don't know what a flash tool is, or a TA partition, or a bat-script, or a bootloader, etc. This is why I feel unqualified to tackle such a sensitive operation. I have googled instructions on rooting, but since I do not understand what is being asked of me, I cannot proceed. What is the best way for a layman who is easily overwhelmed to familiarize themselves with the technology to become reliably competent at tackling such a project?
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The best way is to try to find a person who is familiar with Sony devices - then you'll have less chances to break something. If you don't have anyone familiar with Sony - then XDA have some good threads (this or this, for example) for self-learning.
My own experience with rooting, tweaking, making things started with bootloader unlocking, and my only helpers were guides and members of one famous Russian geek forums. So, maybe soon you'll join this community as a full member. Who knows ;^)
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My understanding was that a root was irreversible. This is a major contributor to my trepidation. Is this not the case?
Additionally, I have gathered from various forums that the process of rooting Xperia has been particularly problematic and frequently unsuccessful. Do you know if there is any truth to this? I would not have a clue what to do if I encountered a problem.
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Root is reversible, so do bootloader unlocking. A little bit complicated, but possible.
Yes, and as someone mentioned there, in terms of security Sony is an Apple of Android world here. Their devices are hardest to modify, they are overcosted, but there is nothing impossible.
So, in short:
You have two ways:
You can downgrade your phone, ignore that push notifications and keep your phone intact.
You can unlock your bootloader, root your phone and delete the app that updates your phone.
P.S. If I remember correctly, there was a way to "freeze" (force app to stop all of its activity) this app without rooting, unlocking, and so on. If I'll find it - I'll share it here
Thank you for your reply.
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It's only a push notification, and it can easily be ignored. But it's very annoying, I know.
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No, not at least not in my case. Moreover it is only too easy to accidentally enable it when you are trying to do something else, entirely.
Thank you for directing me to those links, I will investigate the guides and see if they are any more illuminating than others I have read. I do not have a personal acquaintance familiar with Sony devices, unfortunately. They seem rather hard to come by even online.
If Sony devices are, indeed, the hardest to modify, then I feel my apprehension is justified. Is it wise to proceed without a technical expert to consult? Is there anyplace where I might find help if I need it? How likely is it that I will do irreparable damage to the device?
You can downgrade your phone, ignore that push notifications and keep your phone intact
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When you say "downgrade", do you refer to restricting the second model I purchased to the OS it came with, or do you mean to suggest that my original phone can be downgraded? I had been told that even with root an OS update could not be reversed.
P.S. If I remember correctly, there was a way to "freeze" (force app to stop all of its activity) this app without rooting, unlocking, and so on. If I'll find it - I'll share it here
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That is definitely something I would be interested in exploring before proceeding with more drastic alternatives. If you have any suggestions as to where I might look for more information, please do let me know.
Again, thank you very much for your help and correspondence in this matter. It is greatly appreciated.
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Is it wise to proceed without a technical expert to consult? Is there anyplace where I might find help if I need it? How likely is it that I will do irreparable damage to the device?
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1. If you've learned everything from the threads and you are following instuctions step-by-step - then yes, it is OK.
2. The great place to find a man who can help you is to check some local repair shops (especially ones where you can repair Sony phones) and make some good relations with a local master/technician. If something went wrong - they'll fix it! Plus if you make friends with them, I'm sure they will help you in such a hard procedure.
3. Only one thing is irreparable - DRM keys. So, you must save them before doing anything. Everything else can be fixed pretty easily.
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When you say "downgrade", do you refer to restricting the second model I purchased to the OS it came with, or do you mean to suggest that my original phone can be downgraded? I had been told that even with root an OS update could not be reversed.
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Thankfully, it can be reversed - it's Android after all. There's a special program for doing updates and downgrades - it's called Flashtool. And, of course, you can downgrade your phone to 6.0 without unlocking bootloader with this program. There you can download an OS and here is a complete video how to flash your device through it.
wynden said:
That is definitely something I would be interested in exploring before proceeding with more drastic alternatives. If you have any suggestions as to where I might look for more information, please do let me know.
Again, thank you very much for your help and correspondence in this matter. It is greatly appreciated.
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Sure!
Good luck in Flashtool using!
P.S. It looks like you can stop downloading your OS update.
When you'll downgrade to 6.0, go to Updater app -> Settings -> Automatic updates download -> OFF. Boom, only notification left.
SONY IS THE APPLE OF ANDROID ( WELL SAID) (Y)
its a Cryptex scroll, one key wrong and the secret is destroyed for ever!
as 8 years Sony Xperias user coming from various devices, era, and Security policies of SONY here what i have found
1. SE phones were the easiest to root , Pre 2012 (last known device Xperia Ion)
2. 2013, Z series launched and thru out life of Z (c6602 / C6603 ) rooting was Piece of cake
3. then came Z3 with Devil in the Details. Sony Started using DRMKEYS (Digitial Rights Managment Keys) the are Stored in Hidden Partition and Every time you wana use Premium features (which you paid for) ( such as Image Enhancement Features withing Camera and Movie Player) (Blue Tooth 5 technology) ( FastCharge options) ( SD cards above 32Gb support) and much more, Xperia will ask KERNEL to Check where DRM KEYS are Instated or not. if Kernel output is 1 then all these features works perfect.
4. Z3, Z3+ Z4v , Z5 and Finally Z5p etc landed in hands having LP (android lollypop) kernels (KK for Z3) and KINGROOT was able to Find Android Exploits and used to Root easily! however from MM kernel, when SONY gripped its security with SONY RIC, every attempt from KINGROOT to root Xperia went on BOOTLOOPS. hence the only way to ROOT sony was to FLASH MODIFIED KERNEL. and to FLASH MODIFIED kernel you must UNLOCK the BOOTLOADER and when you do that, TA partition will be WIPED and you will loose you DRM KEYS FOREVER. even when you root your Stockrom and have /system access, failure kernel finding drmkeys will always make your sony device entry level droid.
5. A fresh breeze , when DIRTY COW script found this exploit in MM kernel when newly purchased Xperia (like X) came in to your hands having Android 6.01, just connect it to WIndows PC, enable usb debugging and run the TA Backup Script AKA dirtycow script and it will SPEW this TA-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxx.img file (2mb) in the same folder! run it more than one! it will spew same file with different timestamp in that same folder. So now you have something SONY never wanted you to have!
6. More Over a very amazing Kernel Modding script called ROOTKERNEL SCRIPT by @tobias.waldvogel was primed and later taken over by @serajr which basically takes given kernel.elf file from the downloaded Stockrom and switch off all securties and add line in kernel to always prompt all SONY APPS for the existance of DRM KEYS Provisioned! even if they arent. this scripted supported z3, z3+, z4v, Z5c, X5 , z5p, X, Xc, Xperf, Xz and XZs from kernels LP, MM, N and O making whole drm keys concept mockery for Sony.
7. from XZP sony changed the way drm works and now for every device there is hidden location where you cannot know and even if you add line in kernel to point memory block for existing drmkeys. it will fail so kernel fix for DRM is gone. However the controversial commercialized xperifix by member name //storm does the job.
coming back to you
your X falls under the glory period of numerious options and fixes where not only drmfix is possible in kernel but also you can extract your drm keys TA.img and one day you can use to relock your bootloader !
I would suggest you to
1. use dirtycow script! extract TA.img
2. unlock boodloader
3. ROOT your MM kernel , disable all software updates!
4. relock the bootloader using that same TA.img (if you want)
and i agree! all sony devices came in my hands were always the BEST with the OS; they left the FACTORY! later it was just unfinished Roms to SUPPORT its successors! , for X the OREO is horrible! its designed to Support XZ2 and XZP but since the tree starts from X so they had to include X also.
YasuHamed said:
For X the OREO is horrible! its designed to Support XZ2 and XZP but since the tree starts from X so they had to include X also.
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Completely disagree with you. Oreo for X is the best stock ROM I've used so far. Stable, fast, battery life friendly, secured and just ideal. Why do you think it is bad?
BTW I've used XZ2 less than a week ago, both of them runs almost equal. So...
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The great place to find a man who can help you is to check some local repair shops
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I was unable to locate a mobile repair shop anywhere near me, although that is what I had initially hoped I would be able to do. Still, I expect they would take exception with me if I wanted them to assist me in doing something that the manufacturers disallow, so I don't know that it would have helped.
It is news to me that the phone can be downgraded, contrary to what Sony informed me. Do you think it would be better for me to go this route before attempting a root?
I suspect a root will still be necessary, if only because it will continue prompting me to update. You mentioned that I can turn Automatic updates off, but I believe what you are referring to is a setting I had already enforced. I made sure that the phone does not automatically download the updates in the settings, but it nonetheless harasses me with push notifications that I cannot dismiss.
Thanks again for directing me to these resources and helping me begin to understand the nuances of what I'm attempting.
YasuHamed said:
coming back to you
your X falls under the glory period of numerious options and fixes where not only drmfix is possible in kernel but also you can extract your drm keys TA.img and one day you can use to relock your bootloader !
I would suggest you to
1. use dirtycow script! extract TA.img
2. unlock boodloader
3. ROOT your MM kernel , disable all software updates!
4. relock the bootloader using that same TA.img (if you want)
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Thank you for the overview, it does help me better understand the conflicting information I have been finding online, and your remarks about the X are very reassuring and do give me some confidence and hope for success. Are there any simplified, step-by-step tutorials for implementing this method that you have recommended, which you could direct me to? Figuring out which one to follow is one of my primary points of confusion.
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Completely disagree with you. Oreo for X is the best stock ROM I've used so far. Stable, fast, battery life friendly, secured and just ideal. Why do you think it is bad?
BTW I've used XZ2 less than a week ago, both of them runs almost equal. So...
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Third generation of Oreo for Sony X is less horrible .2.50 but still heatsup more than Nougat and starts hanging, lagging. Since I reside in a country where its 45C usually,for me Nougat .0.252 (came dec2017) was the best rom!
wynden said:
Thank you for the overview, it does help me better understand the conflicting information I have been finding online, and your remarks about the X are very reassuring and do give me some confidence and hope for success. Are there any simplified, step-by-step tutorials for implementing this method that you have recommended, which you could direct me to? Figuring out which one to follow is one of my primary points of confusion.
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I own X so Trust me The device is over all LOVE,
1. the modified kernels, instruction, Trivia can be found in my post https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-x/how-to/root-xperia-x-f5122-android-n-34-2-2-47-t3594502
2. BASIC INFO about Xperias, Unlocking bootloader and using Dirtycow Script MUST BE READ at https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72141176&postcount=7
3. Since you are on Android MM, Enable usb Debugging from Developer Options and run Dirtycow Script - FULL GUIDE at
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/universal-dirtycow-based-ta-backup-t3514236
4. The Only Shepard for flashing Xperias EVEN when Sony's own Xperia Compainion Fails (many times) to flash your device is THE FLASHTOOL, www.flashtool.net , once boot is unlocked! sony will no longer recognize your device. Flashtool has inbuilt Xperfirm and you can download firmwares of all device across time (selective)
(literature)
. A very Promising Detailed, Library level guide by @DHGE on DRM KEYS CONCEPT at https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70504721&postcount=2
YasuHamed said:
Third generation of Oreo for Sony X is less horrible .2.50 but still heatsup more than Nougat and starts hanging, lagging. Since I reside in a country where its 45C usually,for me Nougat .0.252 (came dec2017) was the best rom!
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That's strange. My phone was fast as hell on all of the Oreo ROMs. Maybe I haven't noticed any heatups, because I have the latest revision (and mfg date is 06.2017) and everything is OK with the hardware there, so it just CAN'T heat up in my case...
Anyways, maybe you should try XGEN + FSC + Debloater?)
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That's strange. My phone was fast as hell on all of the Oreo ROMs. Maybe I haven't noticed any heatups, because I have the latest revision (and mfg date is 06.2017) and everything is OK with the hardware there, so it just CAN'T heat up in my case...
Anyways, maybe you should try XGEN + FSC + Debloater?)
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I am actually on Xgen which is built on latest! its bit cooler and makes me survive the lagging!
the temperature in my country goes up to 50C
A few suggestions:
Turning off notifications:
(not certain it applies to those "forced" notifications by the update app, but I suspect if you disable the "fota service" and "fota application" [search for similar terms] it'll stop being displayed)
https://www.digitaltrends.com/android/how-to-turn-off-notifications-in-android/
https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-t...how-disable-notifications-in-android-3614881/
In any case - you can attempt to disable the (most likely) offending apps, being the "fota" components via adb:
(for this you need to enable "USB debugging" via "developer options": Settings -> about phone -> Build number -> Tap 7 times)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3eav7t/get_rid_of_unwanted_system_apps_adb_shell_pm_hide/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/disable-apps-root-disabled-disable-t3491624
https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/56620/enable-and-disable-system-apps-via-adb
Doing it the root way would be installing Magisk (= root) and purchasing & installing "Titanium Backup root" + the "Titanium Backup PRO Key root".
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...peria-x-to-t3785135/post76404647#post76404647
How exactly to do that:
others please chime in
Hope that helps in any way
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In any case - you can attempt to disable the (most likely) offending apps, being the "fota" components via adb:
(for this you need to enable "USB debugging" via "developer options": Settings -> about phone -> Build number -> Tap 7 times)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3eav7t/get_rid_of_unwanted_system_apps_adb_shell_pm_hide/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/disable-apps-root-disabled-disable-t3491624
https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/56620/enable-and-disable-system-apps-via-adb
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That's what I was looking for. IMHO this is the best variant if you don't want to upgrade or unlock your bootloader. You should give it a try!
Do not worry
good afternoon
Since you have a "limitation" I will try to guide you as best as possible in what you want to do.
I do not know how the "spectrum of autism" works, but if I'm too technical, you can mention it and I can try to break down a bit more what I'm trying to say.
First, Sony as a company that creates devices with "updates" will always sell the idea that the updates are irreversible, is common and normal in the software and telecommunications companies so it goes without saying that they "destroyed your phone " second: no, it was not necessary to buy another phone, with which you had the problem could be solved only if it is normal that among "non-technical" users are at a crossroads when updates make notable changes to the system and often create confusion.
Now, your simplest solution is to find a trustworthy technical service that can return your phone to a later version for which you are more familiar. probably this version is the initial with which the phone came at the time of its release to the market, in this case with xperia x was 6.0.1 named with its own name as "marsmallow".
then, if what you want is to try to solve it for yourself there is a lot of information in this forum, very helpful and in some cases quite explained so that less experienced users manage to make various changes or modifications to their phones.
take it easy, an update does not damage your phone, it is understandable that you feel fear or disappointment but these things that you tell us that happened to you with your phone have a solution, if you want more information I can help you through this means. or you can read and inform yourself about everything that goes with it.
Finally, words like: fastboot, root, flashtools, are just slang for processes that are not usually so complicated, there are even videos on YouTube that explain them very detailed.
luck and I hope your problem can be solved :laugh:
PS: I'm sorry for my bad English
winsters said:
good afternoon
Since you have a "limitation" I will try to guide you as best as possible in what you want to do.
I do not know how the "spectrum of autism" works, but if I'm too technical, you can mention it and I can try to break down a bit more what I'm trying to say.
First, Sony as a company that creates devices with "updates" will always sell the idea that the updates are irreversible, is common and normal in the software and telecommunications companies so it goes without saying that they "destroyed your phone " second: no, it was not necessary to buy another phone, with which you had the problem could be solved only if it is normal that among "non-technical" users are at a crossroads when updates make notable changes to the system and often create confusion.
Now, your simplest solution is to find a trustworthy technical service that can return your phone to a later version for which you are more familiar. probably this version is the initial with which the phone came at the time of its release to the market, in this case with xperia x was 6.0.1 named with its own name as "marsmallow".
then, if what you want is to try to solve it for yourself there is a lot of information in this forum, very helpful and in some cases quite explained so that less experienced users manage to make various changes or modifications to their phones.
take it easy, an update does not damage your phone, it is understandable that you feel fear or disappointment but these things that you tell us that happened to you with your phone have a solution, if you want more information I can help you through this means. or you can read and inform yourself about everything that goes with it.
Finally, words like: fastboot, root, flashtools, are just slang for processes that are not usually so complicated, there are even videos on YouTube that explain them very detailed.
luck and I hope your problem can be solved :laugh:
PS: I'm sorry for my bad English
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your English is perfect <3 WOW!
please convert my graffiti, gibberish instructions to your perfect English Guide <3
1 . https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72141176&postcount=7 ( wrote few months ago)
2. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76429289&postcount=7 ( wrote recently)
3. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76484508&postcount=2 ( wrote recently)
Gray47Maxx said:
That's strange. My phone was fast as hell on all of the Oreo ROMs. Maybe I haven't noticed any heatups, because I have the latest revision (and mfg date is 06.2017) and everything is OK with the hardware there, so it just CAN'T heat up in my case...
Anyways, maybe you should try XGEN + FSC + Debloater?)
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I am too facing problems in oreo, and will probably go bak to 6 for more mods / better battery life
Considering this guide was written before the Mi 9T Pro was released, it's time to rewrite it and make it more relevant.
THE BASICS
GETTING PREPARED
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If you want to tinker with your phone then you'll need some ground work.
If you don't yet have a Mi account, go to https://account.xiaomi.com/pass/register and create a new account. It is important, when unlocking the bootloader, to have your correct phone number registered on your account, so either choose to create the account using a phone number or add the phone number in the security settings of your Mi account afterwards. Make sure the number is verified by the OTP that will be sent.
Make sure you have adb and fastboot tools installed on your PC. These are part of the Android development tools. You can either install the official Android SDK Platform Tools which can be found here https://developer.android.com/studio/releases/platform-tools
Or you can install only adb and fastboot from this xda members project, called minimal adb and fastboot. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790&p=42407269
If you want to know more about these tools then read the minimal adb and fastboot post, you'll find a couple of links that explain both tools in detail.
Install the Mi Unlock Tool. You can find this in the guide I've linked to in the bootloader unlock section below.
Install the Mi Flash Tool. This can be found in the guide I've linked to in the MIUI fastboot flashing section.
Install the drivers for the phone. This is done automatically the first time you connect the phone to PC, so go ahead and connect your phone to your PC and wait until it says the phone is ready for use. At this point the computer should identify the phone correctly as a Redmi K20 Pro.
UNLOCKING THE BOOTLOADER
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I'll point to 2 guides, both on the new, official Mi Community Forums.
https://c.mi.com/thread-2262302-1-0.html
This first guide is somewhat incomplete, but it does give some good extra information about the bootloader unlocking and has direct links for the Unlock Tool and previous versions. Sometimes using an older version of the tool will resolve unlocking issues.
https://c.mi.com/thread-1857937-1-0.html
This second guide is more complete, but not so well written. Again there is some useful extra info included.
CUSTOM RECOVERIES
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If you want to flash a custom ROM or root the phone, then you'll need to install a custom recovery. Your only realistic option here is TWRP, however TWRP comes in many flavours. (Before anyone corrects me and says what about Orange Fox? This is, underneath it all, still a heavily modified version of TWRP) For a brief overview of what TWRP is, I'll point you to the official TWRP page which answers that very question https://twrp.me/faq/whatistwrp.html
I should point out that MIUI will check on every boot whether the recovery partition has been modified. If it thinks it has, then the boot process will automatically restore the system recovery. In order to keep TWRP you will need to either flash a custom ROM, or make MIUI stop restoring system recovery on boot up. The most common way to keep TWRP with MIUI is to install Magisk.
If you are planning on using custom ROMs, then I would recommend the official TWRP, or the current 'dev' version from the official maintainer both are found here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/k2...icial-twrp-xiaomi-redmi-t3944363/post79823568
If you plan on sticking with MIUI, then there are a number of TWRP options that have additional functionality specific to Xiaomi devices - e.g. MIUI debloat scripts.
Many of these tend to be from Chinese, Russian and Indian developers, where Xiaomi phones are most popular. A selection of them can be found here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/k2...irmware-10-3-8-0-9-6-13-t3939647/post79726515
Personally I don't use MIUI so haven't used these much, however OrangeFox seems to have some unique extra functions, like being able to survive OTA updates. So I would guess OrangeFox should be the one to recommend for those that choose to stick with MIUI.
ROOT
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Magisk has become the main choice for rooting, so use it. If you have problems with root and you're using something other than Magisk, you're going to struggle to get any help.
Magisk also does so much more than root. Check out the very good official documentation here for all you need to know.
It includes flashing instructions, which is the same whether you stick with MIUI or have a custom ROM. https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...v7-universal-systemless-t3473445/post68966662
INSTALLING THINGS
From here I will assume you have some basic knowledge. I will not list every single step/command. The instructions won't be high level but at mid level giving enough details for those with basic knowledge. Many links in the previous post should give most of the knowledge needed, so there's no need for me to repeat things too much.
Where fastboot commands are given, I will assume you know how to use them i.e. you will open a terminal/command prompt/power shell window and also navigate to the appropriate directory if required.
I will assume you have checked the phone is connected with the
Code:
fastboot devices
command
INSTALLING TWRP
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- Put the phone into fastboot mode (power and vol-) and connect to a PC
- On the PC
Code:
fastboot flash recovery TWRP.img
here you will need to replace TWRP.img with the actual file name of the TWRP image file, including the full path details if necessary.
At this point you have successfully installed TWRP, but if you boot into MIUI it will be lost. From here you need to boot immediately into TWRP in order to perform further steps to persist the TWRP installation.
- Whilst still connected to the PC
Code:
fastboot reboot
- Now as soon as you send the above command press and hold volume up on the phone
- Keep holding volume up until TWRP boots.
Now you are ready to do the next step. Depending on what you are doing this is likely to be flashing a custom ROM, installing Magisk or installing Orange Fox.
Reserved 2 - coming soon ish
Reserved 3 - hopefully not too long to wait
Thanks a lot for your time! New to this, because usually i buy Global phones, first time i buy a 100% Chinese one...
Interested in what ROM's you would recommend!
Indian K20 Pro has NFC Chip?
I thought they removed the NFC hardware from the device
Kalp3sh S1NGH said:
Indian K20 Pro has NFC Chip?
I thought they removed the NFC hardware from the device
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Initially that was what many people thought. But after people have flashed the Chinese ROM on an Indian phone, they have found that they've got a working NFC chip.
Sealed Chinese ROM works well after switching the language to English.
1) Update to the latest MIUI
2) Make sure Google Services is enabled
3) Install Google Play from APKMIRROR
4) Install Calendar Sync (make sure set it to autostart)
4) Install Contact Sync (make sure set it to autostart)
5) Install Google Pay, Google, Gmail, Drive, Google Keep, Photos etc
5) Install an English keyboard (I don't think you will like Sogou keyboard)
6) Delete all other bloatwares.
You can almost remove almost all bloatwares without ADB or root, except those of Xiaomi's.
Kalp3sh S1NGH said:
Indian K20 Pro has NFC Chip?
I thought they removed the NFC hardware from the device
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Initially that was what many people thought. But after people have flashed the Chinese ROM on an Indian phone, they have found that they've got a working NFC chip.
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There seems to be conflicting evidence here. Indian users have reported that they got a working NFC after flashing an official China ROM, but there's a new teardown of an Indian phone which appears to show that the NFC chip is missing.
It may be that some Chinese built phones were shipped over to India to cope with the initial demand, but that's a pure guess.
Robbo.5000 said:
There seems to be conflicting evidence here. Indian users have reported that they got a working NFC after flashing an official China ROM, but there's a new teardown of an Indian phone which appears to show that the NFC chip is missing.
It may be that some Chinese built phones were shipped over to India to cope with the initial demand, but that's a pure guess.
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I just installed MIUI MS because I was facing some deep sleep issues on the stock ROM.
And there is a setting for NFC but if I enable it, it just turns back off. So maybe my particular device doesn't have the NFC chip.
Hello, in your provided link(second link in bootloading ) it is stated that you don't need TWRP to change ROM. So if I buy a Chinese version of K20 pro and I don't want a custom ROM, just MIUI 10 stable ROM ( I've seen a stable version released in Xiaomi.eu if I understand correctly) from a trusted source, do I need to follow your guide or can I just flash rom or even do it via updater app? This would make it much more easy. Thanks in advance
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Hello, in your provided link(second link in bootloading ) it is stated that you don't need TWRP to change ROM. So if I buy a Chinese version of K20 pro and I don't want a custom ROM, just MIUI 10 stable ROM ( I've seen a stable version released in Xiaomi.eu if I understand correctly) from a trusted source, do I need to follow your guide or can I just flash rom or even do it via updater app? This would make it much more easy. Thanks in advance
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Xiaomi.eu is a custom rom you need twrp to flash it.
NoobRookie said:
Hello, in your provided link(second link in bootloading ) it is stated that you don't need TWRP to change ROM. So if I buy a Chinese version of K20 pro and I don't want a custom ROM, just MIUI 10 stable ROM ( I've seen a stable version released in Xiaomi.eu if I understand correctly) from a trusted source, do I need to follow your guide or can I just flash rom or even do it via updater app? This would make it much more easy. Thanks in advance
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If you are on an official MIUI stable ROM and checking for an update says you have the latest version, but you know there is a newer version, then you can manually update by following that guide, using the section for updating via the updater app.
If you want to install anything that's not official MIUI, then you need to install that with TWRP.
One last dumb question:if I buy the factory sealed version of the phone with Chinese Rom, will I be able to change it to Global official Rom when it comes out? Or will I just get OTA updates and that's it, no possibility of changing official roms?
NoobRookie said:
One last dumb question:if I buy the factory sealed version of the phone with Chinese Rom, will I be able to change it to Global official Rom when it comes out? Or will I just get OTA updates and that's it, no possibility of changing official roms?
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Yes you can change ROMs. You can flash an official Indian ROM using the Mi Flash Tool. See this post about flashing the Indian ROM https://forum.xda-developers.com/k2...king-flashing-india-rom-t3955129/post80025306
Nobody will know for sure that you can flash an official global ROM until its released, but best guess is that you would be able to.
Well I'm reading this from a galaxy note 4... a sh*t ton has changed, or at least it is very different with non-global phones.
If I understand correctly, the best, most safest way is to buy chinese factory sealed version so you can unlock the bootloader in case you lock it.
Which colour do you guys prefer, I like blue but I watched Frankie Tech video(s) and the red colour looks sick. Oh if you buy blue version will camera light also be blue lol. Gonna check out the other colour in another video.
Btw great guide, will try to stick with this note 4 for one more year as it just works fine!
Can anyone in UK confirm their experience with the signal/bands/carrier.
Windroid-user said:
Well I'm reading this from a galaxy note 4... a sh*t ton has changed, or at least it is very different with non-global phones.
If I understand correctly, the best, most safest way is to buy chinese factory sealed version so you can unlock the bootloader in case you lock it.
Which colour do you guys prefer, I like blue but I watched Frankie Tech video(s) and the red colour looks sick. Oh if you buy blue version will camera light also be blue lol. Gonna check out the other colour in another video.
Btw great guide, will try to stick with this note 4 for one more year as it just works fine!
Can anyone in UK confirm their experience with the signal/bands/carrier.
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It's more a case of Xiaomi doing things different. They have an awkward bootloader unlock process. It needs to be done through their unlock tool, where you need to log in to a Mi account to use it, and that Mi account must already be bound to the phone you want to unlock, and you must have already registered, on the phone, to unlock the phone, using the same Mi account.
I've got the blue phone and yes the lights around the pop-up are blue.
I've not used it in the UK, but it should be fine on EE, Three and Vodafone.
O2 may be hit and miss depending where you are. Originally O2 only used band 20, which is missing from the phone, but a while back they added extra bands, this was in major cities and large towns. I'm not sure if O2 have rolled out these extra bands across more of the country since then.
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It's more a case of Xiaomi doing things different. They have an awkward bootloader unlock process. It needs to be done through their unlock tool, where you need to log in to a Mi account to use it, and that Mi account must already be bound to the phone you want to unlock, and you must have already registered, on the phone, to unlock the phone, using the same Mi account.
I've got the blue phone and yes the lights around the pop-up are blue.
I've not used it in the UK, but it should be fine on EE, Three and Vodafone.
O2 may be hit and miss depending where you are. Originally O2 only used band 20, which is missing from the phone, but a while back they added extra bands, this was in major cities and large towns. I'm not sure if O2 have rolled out these extra bands across more of the country since then.
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Thanks for the reply. I have done a bootloader unlock before with the Sony xperia z3 using the official website, but there was no need to have an account linked to it kind of like apple icloud nightmare. Thanks for the info luckily I don't use O2 only Vodafone and three so far (8gb for £9 with three! Secret/hidden deal, no cashback bull). I would probably also go with blue.
That being said... the only benefit of stock China rom is OTA updates compared to "global" rom? I know there are custom roms but want to try out stock first, least bugs and only fair to give it a chance. Just want to build up my knowledge on this before I decide to say goodbye to my note 4. Also the actual global rom is on its way as far as we know?
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Thanks for the reply. I have done a bootloader unlock before with the Sony xperia z3 using the official website, but there was no need to have an account linked to it kind of like apple icloud nightmare. Thanks for the info luckily I don't use O2 only Vodafone and three so far (8gb for £9 with three! Secret/hidden deal, no cashback bull). I would probably also go with blue.
That being said... the only benefit of stock China rom is OTA updates compared to "global" rom? I know there are custom roms but want to try out stock first, least bugs and only fair to give it a chance. Just want to build up my knowledge on this before I decide to say goodbye to my note 4. Also the actual global rom is on its way as far as we know?
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At the moment there is an official Indian ROM, which is more or less the same as a global ROM, the jury is still out as to whether OTA works OK when flashed on a Chinese phone. It 'should' be OK, but there hasn't been an update to the Indian ROM yet, so nobody has been able to find out for definite.
MIUI isn't without it's bugs. The week I used it there were a couple of issues, and there's a thread just for collating bugs on the Indian ROM.
The global version of the phone, the Mi 9T Pro, should be released in the next couple of months. It's been seen on a Dutch online shopping site in the last week. It was only showing the 2 6GB models, but I've been expecting that, as the Mi 9 never came with 8GB RAM globally. It's €480 for 6/128 GB, so a huge mark up on the Chinese price. Once that's released then official global ROMs will become available
hello does anybody know a working method to how to find and download and flash a Stock Rom on my Nokia 7.2 all Tutorials i try so far but did not work well i stuck as well in security patch problem it will not install thats why i want try to find a Stock Rom to flash again with working update
It's pretty easy. Use the NFT tool to flash any full update package and/or flash a full firmware package (HMDSW type).
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It's pretty easy. Use the NFT tool to flash any full update package and/or flash a full firmware package (HMDSW type).
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Sorry for the necro, and not asking if phone can be rooted as wow, am not surprised how many asked already lol.
I purchased four unlocked Nokia 7.2 which forced updated to 10 upon bootup. I'm trying to deal with two issues, one of which I believe is either the Google phone dialer stopping all other phone dialer recording programs from working with a message "call to short to record". Phone has an oem unlock feature in developer section and I see the bootloader is locked, and all research says OS 10 stops this from getting unlocked. After seeing absolutely zero posts on YouTube about downgrading a Nokia 7.2 to OS 9, and so many scam sites, I figure best option is to ask here.
Can a Nokia 7.2 be flashed down to OS 9 where bootloader can then be unlocked, or are all the posts I'm seeing, just wishful thinking fakes? Thanks.
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Sorry for the necro, and not asking if phone can be rooted as wow, am not surprised how many asked already lol.
I purchased four unlocked Nokia 7.2 which forced updated to 10 upon bootup. I'm trying to deal with two issues, one of which I believe is either the Google phone dialer stopping all other phone dialer recording programs from working with a message "call to short to record". Phone has an oem unlock feature in developer section and I see the bootloader is locked, and all research says OS 10 stops this from getting unlocked. After seeing absolutely zero posts on YouTube about downgrading a Nokia 7.2 to OS 9, and so many scam sites, I figure best option is to ask here.
Can a Nokia 7.2 be flashed down to OS 9 where bootloader can then be unlocked, or are all the posts I'm seeing, just wishful thinking fakes? Thanks.
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Hi, essentially the only way to downgrade a locked device is via a Nokia Care point or otherwise tools which can replicate what the Nokia Care tools do. All of these will have a price and unfortunately, no free way exists. You can opt for some remote services.
The tutorials on random websites will help in no way because a locked bootloader will not let you flash any device partitions, thereby disallowing downgrades as well. You cannot load an older OTA package from recovery mode because its date will mismatch.
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Hi, essentially the only way to downgrade a locked device is via a Nokia Care point or otherwise tools which can replicate what the Nokia Care tools do. All of these will have a price and unfortunately, no free way exists. You can opt for some remote services.
The tutorials on random websites will help in no way because a locked bootloader will not let you flash any device partitions, thereby disallowing downgrades as well. You cannot load an older OTA package from recovery mode because its date will mismatch.ii
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I don't mind paying.
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Hi, essentially the only way to downgrade a locked device is via a Nokia Care point or otherwise tools which can replicate what the Nokia Care tools do. All of these will have a price and unfortunately, no free way exists. You can opt for some remote services.
The tutorials on random websites will help in no way because a locked bootloader will not let you flash any device partitions, thereby disallowing downgrades as well. You cannot load an older OTA package from recovery mode because its date will mismatch.
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I have no trouble paying to get this done. It's finding the place to do it that's in the way. I called metro and tmobile and both said they don't offer this service. Least the ones in California I called. One site offered at $4.50 rollback and $8 to root and I am more wary of that then the free ones lol. Any suggestions to real places? Thanks for getting back.
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I don't mind paying.
I have no trouble paying to get this done. It's finding the place to do it that's in the way. I called metro and tmobile and both said they don't offer this service. Least the ones in California I called. One site offered at $4.50 rollback and $8 to root and I am more wary of that then the free ones lol. Any suggestions to real places? Thanks for getting back.
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I will edit this after, if this works so others can try as well. It's not free and is costing me $150 to do. Will update in a few weeks.
New here. Didn't see a forum for the Moto G Pure XT2163. Mods - I am sorry. Please move wherever's best.
Discovered that the version Verizon is selling (notably the slickdeals thread on the one from Visible) is different. It's -2 vs. -4.
Looks like VZW disabled most of the bands that T-Mobile/Sprint use - 25, 41, 71, for example.
Looking to see if it's possible to enable those bands. One report on SD thread says they bricked their device trying RETUS version but IDK if the bootloader needs to be unlocked first, or if it would even help. Probably more work to unlock these bands if it's even possible.
Downloads look available here https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/ellis/official/
Haven't messed with flashing a phone in years. May be able to try later but hoping anyone else here can look into this.
I'm going to guess as is the case with most other Android devices branded by Verizon that the bootloader will be restricted from being unlocked. There is really no way around this as it's an OEM based policy. If you want to play with custom ROMs or root based modding, I would highly recommend ditching the Verizon or any other carrier branded variant with the exception of T-Mobile/Metro and Google Fi (there are others) that actually allow OEM unlock. Not only that, but if you're looking for certain connectivity bands, you don't want to settle for a carrier device variant designed to use a particular set of bands which don't include the ones you need. No sense getting a Verizon variant to run on T-Mobile/Sprint bands when you can, you know, get the T-Mobile variant in the first place. Get the global unlocked variant model if you can and start from there. Far easier than the headaches you'll get trying to transform VZW to TMUS.
Cross-flashing is not going to unlock bands, you need to change modem configuration. Throw your SoC(Mediatek) followed by "unlock bands" into Google and see if you have any luck.
I also didn't see a forum for the Moto G Pure and was wondering if anyone knows of a custom bootloader like TWRP or CWM for it? I think I have enough understanding of how to sideload the app, I just need something to send the phone. I tried using a random TWRP mod on it but it fails, invalid signature. I haven't tried doing the phone rooting thing in years now, but I have this Moto G Pure phone without any service on it that I'm willing to experiment on. It can be used as a test bed or data extraction device to put code from it on the internet if someone needs it to help custom rom makers for example by testing stuff on it. Perhaps that's why no one has a custom recovery for it yet.
I don't know exactly how to extract the phones current ROM data so all I've done so far is unlock the bootloader. The phone's carrier based on the unactivated sim card shows it's a T-Mobile branded device, but the T-Mobile and other carrier software is inactive other than the few Moto apps. An article on XDA say's the phone's suck, but that's just not true at least not to me. It's a fine phone like it is, but if I can format it's SSD and only install what I want it to have on it that would be great. It's just a spare sim locked phone that I can't use my active sim card in. So with that it's now a project phone. I would like to mainly just unbloat it and free up all that used space occupied by the recovery partition. I don't necessarily need a whole new ROM, just want to root it. That's the only way to erase those factory files that I know of.
For me unlocking the bootloader wasn't to hard to do. You have to make sure the drivers from Motorola are installed and have a current version of ADB available on a computer. I still had a version of ADB tools that was almost a decade old now so I had to update that for the fastboot oem_unlock_unlockcode (automated code from Motorola support) command to work. To find out if it can be unlocked or not go here:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone%2Fbootloader%2Funlock-your-device-b
At the Moto site they will guide you on how to generate the code they want you to send them. You have to sign in to their site to use that function though. After I finally figured out what to type in the CMD window it generated that code and I edited it down to one long line of numbers and give it to the page. In seconds I had an email with the unlock code inside.
Unlocking it seems to help with uninstalling some of the built in stuff, before I could only disable most of the apps that come with it. The apps are still probably on there I just have to factory reset it and they'll come back. Now however the removed apps don't show as using any internal storage, all the apps info numbers go to 0 bytes, but still even doing that it's still over 10GB of unmovable data. When it should really be more like 2-3 GB for the entire system. I hate how Google just inserts itself in your life even when you don't want it at all.
I anyone passing by reading this post needs more details please let me know and I'll try to get the information or even data files from the phone. Would a copy of it's stock firmware be of any help? If so let me know how I would go about saving a copy of it. I'll keep looking for answers but it seems this phone is not high on the priority list or is new or something. So there is only scam guides trying to tell you "How to unlock your phone" or "Install TWRP on Motorola devices" and other clearly click bait sites. I can't even find the stock rom for it on Motorola's site, just outdated versions from 2016, with different build numbers, that can't be right.
All I know is unlocking the bootloader was the first step on all the guides and I've done that. Got a warranty voided notice and everything. There currently isn't a custom recovery mod for this model as far I can tell. If I can ever find that then I can try Linage or just debloat Android 11 which is probably the safer and easier option provided I can find that Custom Covery'.
When it boots up now, it has to tell me it's unlocked and all the dangers it poses. Dangerous if you cared about what was on it I suppose. There is nothing on it I can't just copy back over to it, other than the stock operating system.
Oh yeah, it's model number and other side of the box information is:
Model Name: Moto G PURE
SKU: MO-XT21634-AJB (MOXT21634AJB)
Software Version RRH31.Q3-46-20
Production date was 12/15/2021
I'm not sure what other information to include.
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I also didn't see a forum for the Moto G Pure and was wondering if anyone knows of a custom bootloader like TWRP or CWM for it? I think I have enough understanding of how to sideload the app, I just need something to send the phone. I tried using a random TWRP mod on it but it fails, invalid signature. I haven't tried doing the phone rooting thing in years now, but I have this Moto G Pure phone without any service on it that I'm willing to experiment on. It can be used as a test bed or data extraction device to put code from it on the internet if someone needs it to help custom rom makers for example by testing stuff on it. Perhaps that's why no one has a custom recovery for it yet.
I don't know exactly how to extract the phones current ROM data so all I've done so far is unlock the bootloader. The phone's carrier based on the unactivated sim card shows it's a T-Mobile branded device, but the T-Mobile and other carrier software is inactive other than the few Moto apps. An article on XDA say's the phone's suck, but that's just not true at least not to me. It's a fine phone like it is, but if I can format it's SSD and only install what I want it to have on it that would be great. It's just a spare sim locked phone that I can't use my active sim card in. So with that it's now a project phone. I would like to mainly just unbloat it and free up all that used space occupied by the recovery partition. I don't necessarily need a whole new ROM, just want to root it. That's the only way to erase those factory files that I know of.
For me unlocking the bootloader wasn't to hard to do. You have to make sure the drivers from Motorola are installed and have a current version of ADB available on a computer. I still had a version of ADB tools that was almost a decade old now so I had to update that for the fastboot oem_unlock_unlockcode (automated code from Motorola support) command to work. To find out if it can be unlocked or not go here:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone%2Fbootloader%2Funlock-your-device-b
At the Moto site they will guide you on how to generate the code they want you to send them. You have to sign in to their site to use that function though. After I finally figured out what to type in the CMD window it generated that code and I edited it down to one long line of numbers and give it to the page. In seconds I had an email with the unlock code inside.
Unlocking it seems to help with uninstalling some of the built in stuff, before I could only disable most of the apps that come with it. The apps are still probably on there I just have to factory reset it and they'll come back. Now however the removed apps don't show as using any internal storage, all the apps info numbers go to 0 bytes, but still even doing that it's still over 10GB of unmovable data. When it should really be more like 2-3 GB for the entire system. I hate how Google just inserts itself in your life even when you don't want it at all.
I anyone passing by reading this post needs more details please let me know and I'll try to get the information or even data files from the phone. Would a copy of it's stock firmware be of any help? If so let me know how I would go about saving a copy of it. I'll keep looking for answers but it seems this phone is not high on the priority list or is new or something. So there is only scam guides trying to tell you "How to unlock your phone" or "Install TWRP on Motorola devices" and other clearly click bait sites. I can't even find the stock rom for it on Motorola's site, just outdated versions from 2016, with different build numbers, that can't be right.
All I know is unlocking the bootloader was the first step on all the guides and I've done that. Got a warranty voided notice and everything. There currently isn't a custom recovery mod for this model as far I can tell. If I can ever find that then I can try Linage or just debloat Android 11 which is probably the safer and easier option provided I can find that Custom Covery'.
When it boots up now, it has to tell me it's unlocked and all the dangers it poses. Dangerous if you cared about what was on it I suppose. There is nothing on it I can't just copy back over to it, other than the stock operating system.
Oh yeah, it's model number and other side of the box information is:
Model Name: Moto G PURE
SKU: MO-XT21634-AJB (MOXT21634AJB)
Software Version RRH31.Q3-46-20
Production date was 12/15/2021
I'm not sure what other information to include.
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hey i just came up on one of these today, nice phone considering... Any luck with trying to find a custom recovery? I have been looking as well but development seems pretty sparse right now. I am in the same boat as you, unlocked bootloader, locked everything else lol. I cant even find a way to root it without TWRP! I am curious if one of the other moto G series phones would have the same TWRP? Also check this out. It sounds legit but IDK...https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-motorola-g-pure-xt2163/
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hey i just came up on one of these today, nice phone considering... Any luck with trying to find a custom recovery? I have been looking as well but development seems pretty sparse right now. I am in the same boat as you, unlocked bootloader, locked everything else lol. I cant even find a way to root it without TWRP! I am curious if one of the other moto G series phones would have the same TWRP? Also check this out. It sounds legit but IDK...https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-motorola-g-pure-xt2163/
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Well I was able to use Magisk to "root" it with the patched boot file trick, but still that's not the same thing as I did before with a Samsung phone and the CWM recovery deal. That gave the user all the control they wanted. Even though the phone claims I have root access, I'm not sure what to do with Magisk's root trick. I still don't see a way to backup or install a different operating system or just a blank Android 11 OS. My knowledge there is limited and there isn't a custom recovery for this model as far as I can tell.
So I still can't wipe the drive or remove the OEM partition that contains the installers for the bundled stuff. I'd still need some form of interface that has more features than the stock Fastboot and Bootloader modes offer I guess, or I just don't know how to use the software tools correctly. It's still locked even with root as far as I can tell but if there is something more I'm missing or an additional app to install for example, like SU. Is that still a thing? If I'm on the right track let me know.
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Well I was able to use Magisk to "root" it with the patched boot file trick, but still that's not the same thing as I did before with a Samsung phone and the CWM recovery deal. That gave the user all the control they wanted. Even though the phone claims I have root access, I'm not sure what to do with Magisk's root trick. I still don't see a way to backup or install a different operating system or just a blank Android 11 OS. My knowledge there is limited and there isn't a custom recovery for this model as far as I can tell.
So I still can't wipe the drive or remove the OEM partition that contains the installers for the bundled stuff. I'd still need some form of interface that has more features than the stock Fastboot and Bootloader modes offer I guess, or I just don't know how to use the software tools correctly. It's still locked even with root as far as I can tell but if there is something more I'm missing or an additional app to install for example, like SU. Is that still a thing? If I'm on the right track let me know.
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Thanks for the reply!!! I am speaking from a place of semi-ignorance here but I would thing that you could install SuperSU from inside the system, right? As long as the root binary is there...idk though and from what I hear, chainfire is not responsible for SuperSU anymore so it has become somewhat sketchy. I saw a post (about this phone, I think) that mentioned having to install terminal emulator and running root command from there to achieve legit root after flashing the patched boot.img. I will see if I can find the post again and update you. Is there anyway you could post the boot.img? Or give me a link for it?
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Thanks for the reply!!! I am speaking from a place of semi-ignorance here but I would thing that you could install SuperSU from inside the system, right? As long as the root binary is there...idk though and from what I hear, chainfire is not responsible for SuperSU anymore so it has become somewhat sketchy. I saw a post (about this phone, I think) that mentioned having to install terminal emulator and running root command from there to achieve legit root after flashing the patched boot.img. I will see if I can find the post again and update you. Is there anyway you could post the boot.img? Or give me a link for it?
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Well I can try and learn how to extract the phones information to my computer. I don't know how to do that exactly. The way I was able to get a hold of the phones stock firmware data was by using Lenovo's Smart Rescue and Recovery software.
You have to enable usb debugging mode, attach the phone to the computer with the software running and make sure that you didn't disable/delete Device Help. That app is what makes the Lenovo software work, otherwise the Recovery software fails to see the phone. If it sees the phone correctly then you can see the preselected target firmware it wants you to download under the Rescue tab along the top.
So I did that and grabbed the files it created without actually applying them to the device. The whole thing is a little over 2GB and difficult to host but I put the stock boot.img file here for anyone who needs it. If anyone wants all the files I can try to upload the whole thing one file at at time. That's the way it was sent to me, an uncompressed folder. If I zip it all up and try to upload it most sites will say file size exceeded. Anyway here's the link...
boot
MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.
www.mediafire.com
Thanks I was able to patch it with Magisk and achieve root. It looks like Magisk is an SU manager anyway. I have never used it before so this is a first for me. The root and bootloader unlock seem a little pointless without any recovery or ROM though....I guess it's time to learn how to compile one lol
I just picked up the Moto G Pure (XT2163-4) Android 11 aka Red Velvet Cake *sounds yummy lol*....I've been searching around and not seen any info about any rooting method for this device....besides the "Root All Motorola Phones" crap...and I don't feel like risking making a paper weight with it. Even on here it doesn't show up in the...add device list....was going to add to my profile...but can't.
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Thanks I was able to patch it with Magisk and achieve root. It looks like Magisk is an SU manager anyway. I have never used it before so this is a first for me. The root and bootloader unlock seem a little pointless without any recovery or ROM though....I guess it's time to learn how to compile one lol
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Yeah now we're on the same page then. I thought the same thing, not much use to have an unlocked boot loader and root access without software to make use of it. I gave the phone to my nieces to play with for now, but it's with in arms reach if I need it for instructions yet to be defined. I should receive updates to this post if anyone else responds.
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I just picked up the Moto G Pure (XT2163-4) Android 11 aka Red Velvet Cake *sounds yummy lol*....I've been searching around and not seen any info about any rooting method for this device....besides the "Root All Motorola Phones" crap...and I don't feel like risking making a paper weight with it. Even on here it doesn't show up in the...add device list....was going to add to my profile...but can't.
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Yeah appears it was produced in late 2021 or sold at that time so it's new and no one has made any custom firmware's or recoveries for it as far as I know. I don't know how to do that, requires computer programming skills. I don't have any of those.
Gamekeeper408 said:
I just picked up the Moto G Pure (XT2163-4) Android 11 aka Red Velvet Cake *sounds yummy lol*....I've been searching around and not seen any info about any rooting method for this device....besides the "Root All Motorola Phones" crap...and I don't feel like risking making a paper weight with it. Even on here it doesn't show up in the...add device list....was going to add to my profile...but can't.
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I feel your pain! Had mine a few days and of course came to XDA immediately to find the DL on this joint but no luck... Ya I definitely don't recommend one click root method for this. If you want, I can post/link the patched boot.img i made with magisk. Mine boots with it and have confirmed root.
BrittonCBurton said:
Yeah now we're on the same page then. I thought the same thing, not much use to have an unlocked boot loader and root access without software to make use of it. I gave the phone to my nieces to play with for now, but it's with in arms reach if I need it for instructions yet to be defined. I should receive updates to this post if anyone else responds.
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Excellent, it's nice to be caught up with everyone else haha!! I am going to do some digging and posting and whatnot to try to find some info on porting a recovery for this model. I feel like it can't be too different from at least one or two of the other G series phones. I will see updates as well so please post if you come up with anything!!
BTW does anyone know the process of creating a device page for this joint?! I think this phone is definitely worth some development...
Agent_Orange1488 said:
Excellent, it's nice to be caught up with everyone else haha!! I am going to do some digging and posting and whatnot to try to find some info on porting a recovery for this model. I feel like it can't be too different from at least one or two of the other G series phones. I will see updates as well so please post if you come up with anything!!
BTW does anyone know the process of creating a device page for this joint?! I think this phone is definitely worth some development...
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Good luck finding anything that will load onto the phone. Seems like it would be possible to install LineageOS on it if nothing else. You'd think by now installing a phone's operating system would be similar to how operating systems are installed on other computers. All I get is invalid signature, way to much security (for them) on phone OS'es. With phones and PDA's apparently you can't just find the OS you want to use and install it. Where's the generic and bloat free Andriod 11 stock OS/firmware at? No such thing? It's either "Gaggles" way or nothing apparently. (It's ok if you don't know either, maybe someone else has more information about that.)
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Good luck finding anything that will load onto the phone. Seems like it would be possible to install LineageOS on it if nothing else. You'd think by now installing a phone's operating system would be similar to how operating systems are installed on other computers. All I get is invalid signature, way to much security (for them) on phone OS'es. With phones and PDA's apparently you can't just find the OS you want to use and install it. Where's the generic and bloat free Andriod 11 stock OS/firmware at? No such thing? It's either "Gaggles" way or nothing apparently. (It's ok if you don't know either, maybe someone else has more information about that.)
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Ya I'm definitely not going to try anything on the actual device, (ESPECIALLY if I am trying to put it together myself) but I am pretty sure you can test that stuff on a virtual system. Some kind of android emulator or whatever. As for a stock/debloated/de-odexed ROM, I haven't seen one but that couldn't be all that difficult to put together, right? I mean as long as the patched boot.img is included anyway. I feel like a recovery would be a higher priority though...? BTW, I have never used Lineage before, how is it?
Agent_Orange1488 said:
I feel your pain! Had mine a few days and of course came to XDA immediately to find the DL on this joint but no luck... Ya I definitely don't recommend one click root method for this. If you want, I can post/link the patched boot.img i made with magisk. Mine boots with it and have confirmed root.
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That would be great if you could share that patched boot.img......it is for the XT2163-4 MOTO G PURE correct?
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That would be great if you could share that patched boot.img......it is for the XT2163-4 MOTO G PURE correct?
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Agent_Orange1488 said:
I feel your pain! Had mine a few days and of course came to XDA immediately to find the DL on this joint but no luck... Ya I definitely don't recommend one click root method for this. If you want, I can post/link the patched boot.img i made with magisk. Mine boots with it and have confirmed root.
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I would also like the patched boot.img if it is for the XT2163-4. Thanks
Hey boys I actually got rid of the moto g pure...for now at least lol! GREAT phone and I would be willing to get it back once there is some dev work done on it...will definitely be watching the threads on it. Good luck boys!!!
Hi
I read the above posts, and it seems like even if I am able to root it using Magisk, I won't be able to flash it with custom rom?
Thank you Agent_Orange1488 for the posts.