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Well here is the issue, I bought the HTC Thunderbolt awhile ago. I then rooted my phone but left the original ROM on it since the custom roms were not stable. I noticed verizon was pushing me some update and I just ignored them. I woke up today to see my phone rebooted with the screen on an exsclamation point. And then my Thunderbolt keeps rebooting itself now. I tried going into ROM Manager to download a Custom ROM but the phone just reboots before I can do it. I just installed Liquid Gingersense v1.6 rom with the MR2 OTA Radio which said it installed just fine after installing the Liquid Gingersense rom. I went through setting up the google account fine and after it booted to the main screen now my phone boots all over again, get stuck at htc screen for a bit then loads the phone fine then boots again. I am really not sure what the heck is going on. I am new to the MR2 OTA Radio since I cam from the Droid 1. So I hope it was not the install order I did it. I Have turned off the phone booted it with still same rebooting over and over issue. If anyone has idea's please let me know. Much appreciated. Thanks
I'm in the same boat. I have wiped the SD card and done a factory reset on the phone. It is no longer rooted, as I can't install and run apps requiring root permission. The update fails every time it tries to install, I also get the exclamation point android screen when the update tries to install. I'll take the update, I don't care. I just want a reliable phone again.
I'm seeing this issue come up a lot. Some of you folks seem pretty upset by it, and reasonably so. Search through the threads and you'll find you solution.
For those who are STILL running that antique and wildly obsolete ROM that the jcase rooting process leaves you with, I'd like to set a few facts before you. First of all, that ROM wasn't provided as a long-term daily driver. It's OLD and it's not very efficient with the battery. Second, simply because it's stock doesn't mean it's inherently stable. It's probably less stable than the custom ROMs out there. Third, the only ROMs really struggling with stability were the 2.01 RUU gingerbread builds. That build is obsolete, but not nearly as obsolete as the ROM that the rooting process leaves you with. The stability issues with the second OTA had nothing to do with the ROM, but rather, the radio that came with the RUU. In short, it's foolhardy to believe that custom ROMs are somehow inherently dangerous or unstable.
I'd like to suggest to whoever might be running the rooted ancient ROM the rooting process leaves you with to abandon it at your earliest convenience. Flash an MR2 radio, and if you like stock, use the stock rooted debloated ROM based on the 1.70 RUU. If you decide not to do this, and your phone auto-accepts the update, you'll probably lose everything on the phone trying to get it working again. Save yourself that hassle. Flashing ROMs isn't hard and people do it everyday.
Does anybody know a way to disable OTA updates on Thunderbolt? I have a rooted phone, and don't want to deal with updating for now. My problem is the OTA updates cause the phone to reboot, the update fails and then I have to reboot into recovery, clear the caches, reboot again. It's a pain, and it seems to be happening at least once a day now.
Any hacks out there I can apply to disable the OTA updates?
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Does anybody know a way to disable OTA updates on Thunderbolt? I have a rooted phone, and don't want to deal with updating for now. My problem is the OTA updates cause the phone to reboot, the update fails and then I have to reboot into recovery, clear the caches, reboot again. It's a pain, and it seems to be happening at least once a day now.
Any hacks out there I can apply to disable the OTA updates?
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If you have Titaniumbackup Pro then just freeze the update/updater apk. If not, I would suggest getting it, it is well worth the cost.
Great suggestion. I have TiBu Pro and have frozen the two Update apps I found in the list along with "VZW Package Installer 1.0" and "Field Test 2.1-update1" and "Field Trial 2.2.1", having done the last three just now. It did try to do yet another update a few hours ago, so we'll have to see if the last three do the trick.
Anybody got any other suggestions for Apps I should freeze to prevent OTA updates?
Update: None of the items I've frozen seems to have made a difference. Still looking for other ideas.
I'm thinking it was DM.apk or something similiar that controlled ota updates. I don't have a stock rom running atm so i can't be sure. When you find the correct one you won't be able to get to the update phone screen from settings any longer. Wish i could be more help but i just can't remember.
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I was having that same problem and I just broke down and applied the update. I used clockwork rom manager and a rooted/deodexed update file that I found on the forums (linked from androidpolice, i think). Flashed the update, without wiping the current setup, then flashed the radio from the bootloader. Worked like a charm. I've got the update, it's not searching for more, and it reinstalled all the bloatware that I deleted instead of freezing when I got the phone. I went back through and freezed all the bloat junk, and my TB is running better than ever. Oh, and I'm just running a rooted stock rom.
I too suffered the same problem. I just ended up installing a custom rom to get rid of it for good. Best decision I ever made, I really like the Synergy build.
Hey all,
I have a Razr Maxx (well until a few months from now when i can get a better phone).
It is rooted. and has SafeStrap (I used to use the other slots to try some 4.1.2 and 4.3 roms but they all had issues with the radio signal so just been using Stock rooted rom), and VooDoo OTA rootkeeper (Verizon updated my phone OTA the other day, VooDoo seemed to work yay.... still was at 4.1.2, think it was only a security update heh).
Anyway, I'd like to do a Factory Reset since the stock rom, after installing all the apps I thought I wanted, becomes so slow.
Curious if I can do it via SafeStrap->Wipe->Advanced Wipe for the Stock Rom Slot .... or should I do any safety things like remove SafeStrap or TempUnroot it via VooDoo then do it via the phone way of doing it (by pressing some buttons at once). I'd like to still keep root. Wasnt sure what best procedure is.
Probably will just have Google Maps and Spotify on there (Titanium Backup, VooDoo, and a few others) and never install the 100 'used only once/twice a year' apps on there currently.
Thanks for any advice,
Ari
Rant: My phone seems to always get so slow once install the cool apps I want... and I've tried all the cache-clearing solutions on the stock rom but never works. (not sure why, me and all my android friends seem to have these issues once install apps. None of these apps seem to be doing anything on boot/startup based on Memory/TaskKiller apps I use to look at current apps, so not sure what slows the phone down).
armyofda12mnkeys said:
Hey all,
I have a Razr Maxx (well until a few months from now when i can get a better phone).
It is rooted. and has SafeStrap (I used to use the other slots to try some 4.1.2 and 4.3 roms but they all had issues with the radio signal so just been using Stock rooted rom), and VooDoo OTA rootkeeper (Verizon updated my phone OTA the other day, VooDoo seemed to work yay.... still was at 4.1.2, think it was only a security update heh).
Anyway, I'd like to do a Factory Reset since the stock rom, after installing all the apps I thought I wanted, becomes so slow.
Curious if I can do it via SafeStrap->Wipe->Advanced Wipe for the Stock Rom Slot .... or should I do any safety things like remove SafeStrap or TempUnroot it via VooDoo then do it via the phone way of doing it (by pressing some buttons at once). I'd like to still keep root. Wasnt sure what best procedure is.
Probably will just have Google Maps and Spotify on there (Titanium Backup, VooDoo, and a few others) and never install the 100 'used only once/twice a year' apps on there currently.
Thanks for any advice,
Ari
Rant: My phone seems to always get so slow once install the cool apps I want... and I've tried all the cache-clearing solutions on the stock rom but never works. (not sure why, me and all my android friends seem to have these issues once install apps. None of these apps seem to be doing anything on boot/startup based on Memory/TaskKiller apps I use to look at current apps, so not sure what slows the phone down).
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did it work out?
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did it work out?
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Yeh it did work out. I think I just the regular button? combo to do a Hard Factory Reset.
I may have done the VooDoo Unroot and re-added it back in via VooDoo...
that or I may have had to re-root the phone though (think latter is what i did).
Either way I got root back.
The annoying thing is Verizon or Google? backed up which programs I had installed and it just reinstalled all of them immediately after a factory reset.... so it became mostly unusable again. Tried a few programs to figure out if its CPU or Memory and cant figure out why still slow.
armyofda12mnkeys said:
Hey all,
I have a Razr Maxx (well until a few months from now when i can get a better phone).
It is rooted. and has SafeStrap (I used to use the other slots to try some 4.1.2 and 4.3 roms but they all had issues with the radio signal so just been using Stock rooted rom), and VooDoo OTA rootkeeper (Verizon updated my phone OTA the other day, VooDoo seemed to work yay.... still was at 4.1.2, think it was only a security update heh).
Anyway, I'd like to do a Factory Reset since the stock rom, after installing all the apps I thought I wanted, becomes so slow.
Curious if I can do it via SafeStrap->Wipe->Advanced Wipe for the Stock Rom Slot .... or should I do any safety things like remove SafeStrap or TempUnroot it via VooDoo then do it via the phone way of doing it (by pressing some buttons at once). I'd like to still keep root. Wasnt sure what best procedure is.
Probably will just have Google Maps and Spotify on there (Titanium Backup, VooDoo, and a few others) and never install the 100 'used only once/twice a year' apps on there currently.
Thanks for any advice,
Ari
Rant: My phone seems to always get so slow once install the cool apps I want... and I've tried all the cache-clearing solutions on the stock rom but never works. (not sure why, me and all my android friends seem to have these issues once install apps. None of these apps seem to be doing anything on boot/startup based on Memory/TaskKiller apps I use to look at current apps, so not sure what slows the phone down).
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armyofda12mnkeys said:
Yeh it did work out.
I may have done the VooDoo Unroot and re-added it back in via VooDoo...
that or I may have had to re-root the phone though (think latter is what i did).
Either way I got root back.
The annoying thing is Verizon or Google? backed up which programs I had installed and it just reinstalled all of them immediately after a factory reset.... so it became mostly unusable again. Tried a few programs to figure out if its CPU or Memory and cant figure out why still slow.
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so you would advise against
SafeStrap->Wipe->Advanced Wipe for the Stock Rom Slot.
the reason why im asking is because I cant seem to load back into my stock rom, and i carelessly did not make a backup. I was thinking maybe a factory wipe on the stock would help.
armyofda12mnkeys said:
Hey all,
I have a Razr Maxx (well until a few months from now when i can get a better phone).
It is rooted. and has SafeStrap (I used to use the other slots to try some 4.1.2 and 4.3 roms but they all had issues with the radio signal so just been using Stock rooted rom), and VooDoo OTA rootkeeper (Verizon updated my phone OTA the other day, VooDoo seemed to work yay.... still was at 4.1.2, think it was only a security update heh).
Anyway, I'd like to do a Factory Reset since the stock rom, after installing all the apps I thought I wanted, becomes so slow.
Curious if I can do it via SafeStrap->Wipe->Advanced Wipe for the Stock Rom Slot .... or should I do any safety things like remove SafeStrap or TempUnroot it via VooDoo then do it via the phone way of doing it (by pressing some buttons at once). I'd like to still keep root. Wasnt sure what best procedure is.
Probably will just have Google Maps and Spotify on there (Titanium Backup, VooDoo, and a few others) and never install the 100 'used only once/twice a year' apps on there currently.
Thanks for any advice,
Ari
Rant: My phone seems to always get so slow once install the cool apps I want... and I've tried all the cache-clearing solutions on the stock rom but never works. (not sure why, me and all my android friends seem to have these issues once install apps. None of these apps seem to be doing anything on boot/startup based on Memory/TaskKiller apps I use to look at current apps, so not sure what slows the phone down).
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When you try other rom you must download the cdma if u are in USA...the gsm don't work
for the stock slow rom try greenify https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify&hl=it
and clean master https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cleanmaster.mguard&hl=it
and when you do a factory reset and set google account uncheck backup or when play store start download,go in my app and stop the all the download
So my girlfriend's EVO 4G LTE is a bit of.. well, I'm gonna say bastard. I'm not new when it comes to rooting devices but I've never had to deal with one that fought me so much.
I've been through this adventure many times with it, and it gets more complicated each time. Here is what's happened with it so far.
It was stock, and it was terrible. It lagged so much, despite factory resets, that apps like google maps were completely unusable. It got no battery life AT ALL, and was generally freeze-happy and miserable.
So then I s-off'd it and after learning all its quirks, installed recovery and CM 11.2 (I think? It's been a year)
This worked great! For.. a few days. The phone worked, we went on vacation to a roaming area where Sprint had no coverage. We come back, and only the data works, texts and calls do not, and the phone acts like it's not activated. Yay. All attempts to get it activated are met with failure, much to the confusion of the poor sprint person on the line. The phone just will not take, at all. (damn lack of real sim cards..) We tried recovering back to a backup from twrp of the stock firmware but that won't work either? It wouldn't register with sprint even on the backed up version of stock sense. The phone seemed dead at this point. Bricked radio?
So we give up. We bring it to the sprint store, and they do some magic to it, and its back to stock, slow and terrible, but functional. We don't touch it until about three weeks ago.
But, my girlfriend is tired, again, of the terribleness, and asks me to try again. Okay, sure.
I install TWRP again, so far so good. The phone is still S-OFF from last time, which is nice. I go to install CM11.2 from the files used from last time (the MD5 does check out correct) But, the phone complains about not having a new enough bootloader. ???? (So I assume sprint downgraded the bootloader in the process of fixing it. somehow)
I forget the exact numbers, but we can't install CM11.2, only 10. or 10.whatever. the newest 10. Okay, fine. I gather a new set of cyanogen files, gapps, whatever, and flash all of that, so far so good.
This time it works, and stays working! Yay! So I thought.
As it turns out, its on a very old version of android (so old that it goes into a special usb file host mode when usb is plugged in) and more importantly, the camera is TERRIBLE. I've read that the evo 4g lte uses a special ImageSense chip to boost camera performance, and that cyanogen 10 does not support it. I can tell, because the camera is absolutely terrible. The battery life also is terrible, presumably because it lacks optimizations. It had way better battery life on CM11.2 when it worked. Other then that, its working just fine, but the camera is just unacceptable.
So, I want to know what to do from here. I see a few paths.
plan A:
update HBOOT to a newer version to allow the install of CM11.2
(how do I do that? I heard you have to use an RUU, but which RUU? I read that there is some touchscreen driver that is an issue depending on what version you run)
(Once I install the ruu is it business as usual, install twrp and then flash cyanogen like normal? Will it do the crazy not activation thing again? was that a fluke??)
plan B:
update HBOOT, but to a much newer one that allows the install of CM12 or whatever the newer ones are. Presumably updating past the touch screen driver issue and not allowing us to go back to an old version.
(once again, what do I need to do that? Is this advisable? I quite prefer the idea of running a newer version. So if this is the better idea, I will do it.)
I thank you greatly for your help. I'm not used to it being this complicated. I've read a lot of things about this phone and it seems very conflicting at times. I just want to get straightened out.
yeah, it's probably running like crap because the firmware is so out of date.
use this RUU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2653730
then re-flash twrp and another ROM if you want (i've been running cm12.1 for MONTHS) but she might be able to survive just like that. only fear would be staying vulnerable to security threats, but you've been living in that house this whole time anyway.
for a good while i was running this stock 4.3 with root and some xposed modules installed to get the cm functionality that i missed. but seriously, run the RUU, let it activate, then go under settings and update profile and PRL, fire up maps/navigation with GPS on so that it gets a good lock and its cache populated, then you should be good from there.
Thank you!
Can I use the same utility that I used to flash twrp (that one-click thing that seems to support a half million phones) or do I need something special? This sounds very easy to do. Almost too easy, given that the story of this phone's life is that the easiest thing I've ever done to it was take it completely apart to replace its battery.
never used the one-click stuff. flashing recovery via fastboot is simple enough.
get the adb tools, here's some easy instructions for that http://lifehacker.com/the-easiest-way-to-install-androids-adb-and-fastboot-to-1586992378
get the latest twrp from here https://dl.twrp.me/jewel/
then follow these directions to flash twrp https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_jewel#Installing_a_custom_recovery_using_fastboot
if not installing cm or any other rooted rom (you want to root stock) get supersu from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 and use the twrp installable zip
If you've gone through the trouble to S-Off, then fastboot flash the latest TWRP (3.0.2.0, I believe), which supports the new partition layout (extra 4gig of internal SD space).
From there, flash the official 651.4 developers version, go through the device setup which updates your PRL, then shut it down and reboot to TWRP and flash the latest CM12.1 and a proper gapps package (I use "stock", which is a bit much for some, but I like having everything available to me).
The one thing I do that most don't is to disable zRam and enable swap with my own script I wrote specifically for the external SD I formatted as vFat/ext4/swap.
After doing all this, I do not have the issues you seem to have, and the PRL seems to stay from the last install of stock Sense 5. Even with all the apps I have installed, it's still fairly snappy. Facebook/Messenger, and other memory hogging apps run smooth with no discernable lag, unless there's network issues.
YMMV, but look into using an app like "Ampre" to measure battery life and gauge if the battery is going bad or not.
Outside of that, there's not much left to do with these older devices that hasn't been done already.
Edit: They do keep coming!
I looked into doing it, and there is no way in hell that I should be a) doing it, and b) unleashing it onto the world. It would be bad.
I only have the one phone to test it on and can't risk messing it up and I don't have the experience to work on it if it didn't come out perfectly.
I expect that it will be the last Sprint ROM released for this phone, We're nearing the end of support, so it would be good to have these final versions "fixed" and available
...on the off chance a few developers will jump right in and cook up a few mega ROMs for us.
DQG1 Root and Xposed (rewritten)
On a related note, I installed stock DQA1 DQG1, using the usual CF Autoroot, battery pull thingy process Odin for the ROM and TWRP, then booting once, booting into recovery, and then installing SuperSU and it rooted fine. No loss of settings or anything else as far as I can tell.
I did have to install the latest versions of the Xposed files. After rooting and custom recovery (TWRP works fine), install XposedInstaller_3.1.4.apk first like any other apk, then go to recovery and install Wanam v87.1-alt-sdk23-arm-custom-build, but everything (Xprivacy, etc.) worked fine. Keep in mind, you HAVE to use the "alt" (see the "alt" in the file name above?) version or else it won't work. Samsung made some changes, blah, blah, blah. Much thanks to Wanam!
New side note: I did do a factory wipe, and even after reinstalling everything, and using a ROM that contains bloatware, I still have like 40% more space on the phone. I truly don't know what happened there.
Anyone have any thoughts as to kernel? I downloaded Emotion r26 RC1, and BeastModeKernel 1.0BETA, but I haven't tried them yet.
EDIT: Emotion r26 RC1 works fine, but it doesn't seem like CPU freqs are ever going to stick.
No surprise that neither Emotion nor BeastModeKernel worked; I haven't seen anything else that may.
Thoughts anyone?
Both kernels are good, emotion has a few more options to tweak but I took an update a month or two ago and run NotEdge ROM fine , I just use SO launcher with it because I like TW, also latest xposed is 86.1 and I wish I could do what your asking but it probably would be just as bad you'll be fine with that ROM I just suggested it has everything u just requested just make a nandroid and do it at home in case you do something wrong you can always ODIN back your firmware
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D'oh!!
Eating a little crow here. So far, there have been two three 742 updates, maybe there will be more. Who knows?
But I edited the title of the first post. Again. Again. 741 times.
Do you guys have a link to the stock unrooted rom? My phone is royally screwed right now and still stock. I want to do a clean flash and see if that fixes it.
Over a year later, and the still keep coming.
Hmmmm.
I did take another gander around, but it seems that I would need Linux to do it correctly, so I am still opting out of doing it myself.
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Do you guys have a link to the stock unrooted rom? My phone is royally screwed right now and still stock. I want to do a clean flash and see if that fixes it.
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They all arrive here: https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-note-edge/SM-N915P/ eventually.
Hello i got a note 4 Sprint MM 6.0.1 N910PVPU5DQI5 . i am from Argentina, and i bought the phone used from a guy from USA. (i don`t know how but it`s working with the bands here but i dont know if 4g is working, the guy says it works, maybe i don`t have 4g singal in my zone) .
the phone works fine, but has some srpint stuff and ads that bother me. so i flashed TWRP , and now i am looking for any roms and kernels to flash.
for example, is safe to flash this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/development/rom-updated-1-14-2017-t3538051
or should i change something first ???.