Hello. I want to root my nexus 9 without installing any custom recovery. I want this because i want to receive google updates...
And sont suggest me about "install custom recovery and when you need flash the stock etc.)
Thanks in advance
Wrong forum. This is a dev forum, not Q&A. Rooting w/out custom recovery is possible with chainfire's autoroot flashable zips. But still you won't receive OTA updates b/c since Lollipop the validation process has changed and you need to be pure stock. This also includes the recovery iirc.
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Just root it. You don't need custom. Use the nexus tool kit
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giannisgt said:
Hello. I want to root my nexus 9 without installing any custom recovery. I want this because i want to receive google updates...
And sont suggest me about "install custom recovery and when you need flash the stock etc.)
Thanks in advance
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brownog1 said:
Just root it. You don't need custom. Use the nexus tool kit
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You will not receive OTA updates if you are rooted.
cam30era said:
You will not receive OTA updates if you are rooted.
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Since when does rooting prevent OTA updates? Thats the first time I hear that.
On my N10 I always booted only into TWRP (fastboot boot twrp.img) and flashed from there the supersu.zip and still got OTAs without any issues.
I sold my N10 and my N9 is currently on the way to me so Im preparing everything to unlock and root it as soon as it arrives, thats why I am checking all those threads right now regarding root.
Well, I read only about this root injecting methode which doesnt sound very good to me and the nexus toolkit methode. Isnt it possible to boot into TWRP like I did before? Why shouldnt this work on the N9?
HansiHusten said:
Since when does rooting prevent OTA updates? Thats the first time I hear that.
On my N10 I always booted only into TWRP (fastboot boot twrp.img) and flashed from there the supersu.zip and still got OTAs without any issues.
I sold my N10 and my N9 is currently on the way to me so Im preparing everything to unlock and root it as soon as it arrives, thats why I am checking all those threads right now regarding root.
Well, I read only about this root injecting methode which doesnt sound very good to me and the nexus toolkit methode. Isnt it possible to boot into TWRP like I did before? Why shouldnt this work on the N9?
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My bad. I should have said you will not be able to install OTA if you are rooted. The install script checks system files and if anything has been modified, it aborts installation. Your better option is to fastboot flash the Google factory image.
So what is the current working root methode for 5.1.1 without losing OTA or flashing any recovery?
This injecting thing, nexus toolkit or another way?
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seems like CF-Auto-Root (special version for the N9) works also? Im right now having 40 windows open in chrome, trying to find the best way...
Question is, does it still work for 5.1.1?
Again: Why should not boot into TWRP and then flash the supersu zip not work? Any issues with that?
Please share your experience. Thanks
HansiHusten said:
So what is the current working root methode for 5.1.1 without losing OTA or flashing any recovery?
This injecting thing, nexus toolkit or another way?
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seems like CF-Auto-Root (special version for the N9) works also? Im right now having 40 windows open in chrome, trying to find the best way...
Question is, does it still work for 5.1.1?
Again: Why should not boot into TWRP and then flash the supersu zip not work? Any issues with that?
Please share your experience. Thanks
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It's a Nexus device. The easiest root method is to fastboot flash TWRP, the download SuperSU and flash it in recovery. Link here > http://download.chainfire.eu/740/SuperSU/BETA-SuperSU-v2.49.zip
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It's a Nexus device. The easiest root method is to fastboot flash TWRP, the download SuperSU and flash it in recovery. Link here > http://download.chainfire.eu/740/SuperSU/BETA-SuperSU-v2.49.zip
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Alright, so the 'usual' way works as always, thanks for clearing this up. Was wondering if there were still some issues with rooting the N9.
So you suggest the beta version of supersu, will give a try first to the stable one, if this doesnt work ill try the beta.
Thanks m8
HansiHusten said:
Alright, so the 'usual' way works as always, thanks for clearing this up. Was wondering if there were still some issues with rooting the N9.
So you suggest the beta version of supersu, will give a try first to the stable one, if this doesnt work ill try the beta.
Thanks m8
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Stable should work for Lollipop. Beta necessary for M. And beta works fine on Lollipop, too, FWIW.
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The first step for flashing Alliance was making sure i have the 4.3 firmware. Flashed via Odin.
I experfienced some trouble with a bootloop issue so i changed cables and then partitioned with the .pit file.
All's well now, it at least runs the stock firmware just fine. Now i'm strugglling with the most basic simple part IMO... how do i install the custom Rom without the recovery??
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The first step for flashing Alliance was making sure i have the 4.3 firmware. Flashed via Odin.
I experfienced some trouble with a bootloop issue so i changed cables and then partitioned with the .pit file.
All's well now, it at least runs the stock firmware just fine. Now i'm strugglling with the most basic simple part IMO... how do i install the custom Rom without the recovery??
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You are rooted still correct? Easiest way I guess is to just download Rom Manager or GooManager depending on using TWRP or CWM.
KuNiT said:
You are rooted still correct? Easiest way I guess is to just download Rom Manager or GooManager depending on using TWRP or CWM.
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I chose to bump up my android version cuz i friend another SIM card. I tether for my Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime, and whatever else, thankfully my laptop can get weak unsecured internet signals, but i'm walking my Note around the apartment trying to get good 1x reception Problems may be overlapping but next step is something basic from the Play Store to verify root.
I read of some luck with root for 4.3, just not bootloader. Am i correct?
KuNiT said:
You are rooted still correct? Easiest way I guess is to just download Rom Manager or GooManager depending on using TWRP or CWM.
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Not rooted. it sounds like rooting is still an option, just not custom recovery?
Is using ODIN to flash stock rooted an option? No valuable files on phone currently.
(Fortunately I'm at work right now so I have time to make well informed decisions. Thanks for your help)
sduffy89 said:
Not rooted. it sounds like rooting is still an option, just not custom recovery?
Is using ODIN to flash stock rooted an option? No valuable files on phone currently.
(Fortunately I'm at work right now so I have time to make well informed decisions. Thanks for your help)
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I believe if you took/flashed the OTA update, your kinda out of luck and stuck now. I'm not 100% certain of this though but I think it probably relocked the bootloader and the only thing to do is wait for someone to root/unlock 4.3.
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I believe if you took/flashed the OTA update, your kinda out of luck and stuck now. I'm not 100% certain of this though but I think it probably relocked the bootloader and the only thing to do is wait for someone to root/unlock 4.3.
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Correct. If you took the OTA it relocked your bootloader and you are stuck. You can still root the official 4.3 but you are stuck waiting until someone unlocks the bootloader. This means no custom ROMs/Recovery.
Which 4.3 firmware did you flash? If its the OTA then yes you're outta luck.
If you did follow the Alliance's rom thread. There is a 4.3 MJ9 firmware you need to flash. It doesn't have the locked bootloader. You are then able to boot up in the basic recovery and then flash either TWRP or CWM recovery.
I have converted my AT&T M8 to stock Dev Edition following this thread. Worked a treat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/guide-update-to-official-developer-t3002003
I'm going on a vacation and want to use my phone as a transfer spot for photos taken with a DSLR. To do that, I will need to be able to copy/move files from the camera's SD card onto my phone's SD using USB OTG.
I understand that if I keep the stock recovery, loader, etc and only achieve root, then I will be able to get any OTA that becomes available. I will also be able to use one of the methods to enable writing to the SD of the phone.
So, the question is, how to get root without changing anything that will impact the OTA ability?
Hope I was clear in what I have and what I'm looking for.
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Nobody?
GHammer said:
Nobody?
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I've never heard of anyone wanting just root, so I'm not sure. But if your bootloader is unlocked you can try TowelRoot and see if that works and just install SuperSu through the playstore.
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Ha! I'm unique.
Actually, I like Sense, and Lollipop is fine. I just didn't loike all the crap AT&T forced onto the phone and Uber was the last straw.
So, I want to keep the phone 'stock' except for accessing the extrenal SD.
I'll give Towelroot a shot and see how it goes.
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Ha! I'm unique.
Actually, I like Sense, and Lollipop is fine. I just didn't loike all the crap AT&T forced onto the phone and Uber was the last straw.
So, I want to keep the phone 'stock' except for accessing the extrenal SD.
I'll give Towelroot a shot and see how it goes.
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Maybe I'm just off base here, but once the bootloader is unlocked, can't you just fastboot TWRP recovery, install SU (zip) file via recovery, then fastboot stock recovery and end up with a stock rooted device? Or does Lollipop not allow this?
DanGeorges said:
Maybe I'm just off base here, but once the bootloader is unlocked, can't you just fastboot TWRP recovery, install SU (zip) file via recovery, then fastboot stock recovery and end up with a stock rooted device? Or does Lollipop not allow this?
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Hmmmm, perhaps just booting a recovery and installing SU would work.
See why I asked?
Guess this will wait for the weekend now. Restoring a phone takes more time than I have and it looks like I'm in uncharted territory.
Again, my objective is to have an OTA acceptable system with root.
Thanks for the two ideas, and of course, I'm open to others.
GHammer said:
Hmmmm, perhaps just booting a recovery and installing SU would work.
See why I asked?
Guess this will wait for the weekend now. Restoring a phone takes more time than I have and it looks like I'm in uncharted territory.
Again, my objective is to have an OTA acceptable system with root.
Thanks for the two ideas, and of course, I'm open to others.
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I had a rooted device (4.4.2) and when I wanted the OTA to 4.4.4, I kept the root, but re-fastbooted the stock recovery so that the OTA would work. It kept my root (I think), and then I just re-installed TWRP so that I could still do backups..
I hope that someone with more knowledge than I will chime in if I'm wrong (or right).
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I kept the root, but re-fastbooted the stock recovery so that the OTA would work.
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This is what I would suggest. There may be other ways (root without custom recovery). But I know for certain that the following will work: flash TWRP, flash SU or SuperSU to root. Than flash back to stock recovery.
You will be on stock recovery, have root, and should not impact OTA (provided all system files are also stock and not altered by root).
You can also try to fastboot boot TWRP (and then flash SU/SuperSU) without actually flashing TWRP. I'm not certain this will work, but I think it does under LP. I think something on 4.4.4 broke this ability, but then it came back.
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I will try the boot TWRP method first, and if that fails, I'll flash TWRP, get root, then go back to stock recovery.
This is now just an exercise to see which method works as the stock File Manager reads the USB and can copy files to the SD. I had not tried since 4.4.4. but did yesterday and it works for any kind of file.
EDIT: Turns out the root was not the problem. It was the developer edition firmware. I flashed the new firmware from the OTA update separately and now I'm booting fine.
If you have this exact problem, unbrick instructions here:
Try using Phone Flash Tool from the Dell site, and this zip:
https://mega.co.nz/#!Vgw1CTYT!y1_tSTCMmzrhJSQy0lxwY59iyRhdJovC-IDMF25PB4k
It's the new boot firmware binaries packed in the developer edition firmware zip with the xml changed to point to the new files.
For the flashing process of this zip, start with the tablet completely off and disconnected, then in Phone Flash Tool, load the zip file, click "Start to flash" (the button near the bottom should be blue/clickable), then once it's counting attempts (attempt #0, attempt #1, etc.) then connect USB. It should proceed to flash.
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ORIGINAL POST:I just received the Lollipop OTA, and I installed it. I did not remove my Superuser installation or my Busybox installation first. Now I am bootlooping.
So, take this as a warning, do not install the OTA if you have modified your system.
Now I am going to try to find a way to fix this...
xBIGREDDx said:
I just received the Lollipop OTA, and I installed it. I did not remove my Superuser installation or my Busybox installation first. Now I am bootlooping.
So, take this as a warning, do not install the OTA if you have modified your system.
Now I am going to try to find a way to fix this...
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Well, yeah anytime a update via OTA is available unroot and revert the device to stock, the update is designed to go over a stock tablet.
vampirefo said:
Well, yeah anytime a update via OTA is available unroot and revert the device to stock, the update is designed to go over a stock tablet.
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What is the process to unroot on our device?
Install es file explorer or root explorer.
Grant root access to the app.
in es you need to enable root explorer in the settings menu.
Go to
Code:
/system/bin
delete su (mine was not locate in here)
/system/xbin
delete su (mine was here)
/system/app/Superuser.apk delete this
SuperSu has a selection of uninstall options in the app's menus.
vampirefo said:
Well, yeah anytime a update via OTA is available unroot and revert the device to stock, the update is designed to go over a stock tablet.
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I've applied plenty of OTAs in the past to other devices on top of rooted systems, and never had a problem as bad as bootlooping.
(Not saying it's not my fault, as I knew there was a risk, I guess I was just running on a series of good luck, or maybe other companies write better OTA pre-checking features.)
good you mentioned this
supersu - complete unroot - update worked
i forgot to uninstall xposed - modifications where gone after reboot (batterie percentage etc. from gravitybox)
has anyone tried rooting after update? could the kitkat method work?
kage69 said:
good you mentioned this
supersu - complete unroot - update worked
i forgot to uninstall xposed - modifications where gone after reboot (batterie percentage etc. from gravitybox)
has anyone tried rooting after update? could the kitkat method work?
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It's hard to say, as lollipop was just released, only you guys with lollipop can test and see.
Neither SDC nor myself have lollipop so we can't test.
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On mine, I forgot to un-root with no issues, but it defaults to encrypting the tablet and now I can't re-root.
Hmm, I also had the developer firmware installed from their opensource site; maybe that's it? The only other thing would have been Busybox, I think...
EDIT: HEY IT WORKS! I just pulled the firmware binaries out of the update.zip, and flashed with xfstk-downloader, and now I'm on the Encrypting screen! Thanks!
old root method dont work :crying:
kage69 said:
old root method dont work :crying:
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Well you tried, did you get an error? Can you give more details?
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xBIGREDDx said:
EDIT: Turns out the root was not the problem. It was the developer edition firmware. I flashed the new firmware from the OTA update separately and now I'm booting fine.
ORIGINAL POST:I just received the Lollipop OTA, and I installed it. I did not remove my Superuser installation or my Busybox installation first. Now I am bootlooping.
So, take this as a warning, do not install the OTA if you have modified your system.
Now I am going to try to find a way to fix this...
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Will the same rooting procedure work fine after you have upgraded to Lollipop on the 7840? Wanted to try but not sure if everything will work. Also since i'm on a Mac the .bat file doesn't run out of the box...
ely105 said:
Will the same rooting procedure work fine after you have upgraded to Lollipop on the 7840? Wanted to try but not sure if everything will work. Also since i'm on a Mac the .bat file doesn't run out of the box...
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@kage69 says no, only you guys with lollipop can confirm or deny if root works or not.
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the tool flashes temp cwm but the tab dont boot to recovery
stays in bootloader where you can choose boot normal, power down and recovery
choosing recovery boots to stock recovery
there were errors while flashing, ill post them tomorrow
reading a book in bed on my lollipopped tab now
hope we can root it again, need that for customizations and airaudio
see u tomorrow
So how were you able to flash after bootlooping the first time when you tried to update with root? I cannot get into the bootloader or anything :silly:
Does any one have the ota so I can patch the stock firmware to investigate rooting it?
might be stored in cache i think
cant get to that without root
kage69 said:
might be stored in cache i think
cant get to that without root
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Yeah I we hoping someone captured it before updating
xBIGREDDx said:
Hmm, I also had the developer firmware installed from their opensource site; maybe that's it? The only other thing would have been Busybox, I think...
EDIT: HEY IT WORKS! I just pulled the firmware binaries out of the update.zip, and flashed with xfstk-downloader, and now I'm on the Encrypting screen! Thanks!
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Exactly which binaries did you flash back? In the zip I see:
dnx_fwr_ann_a0-mofd_v1.bin
dnx_fwr_ann_a0-mofd_v1-DBG.bin
dnx_fwr_blackburn_preqs_preqs.bin
dnx_fwr_blackburn_qs_qs.bin
dnx_fwr_preqs.bin
dnx_fwr_qs.bin
ifwi_ann_a0-mofd_v1.bin
ifwi_ann_a0-mofd_v1-DBG.bin
ifwi_preqs.bin
ifwi_qs.bin
I am trying to install CWM so I can run Cyanogen like I used to before lollipop came out and locked me out. I am using a rooted sch-i545 via kingroot, and CWM claims to have installed. However, I cannot get cyanogen to install (Signature authentication failed) or something along those lines. Any idea how I can get past this and get Cyanogen to install?
Nanometer45 said:
I am trying to install CWM so I can run Cyanogen like I used to before lollipop came out and locked me out. I am using a rooted sch-i545 via kingroot, and CWM claims to have installed. However, I cannot get cyanogen to install (Signature authentication failed) or something along those lines. Any idea how I can get past this and get Cyanogen to install?
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If you had to root via KingRoot then your bootloader is locked and have no recovery option.
Only flashfire is what you can use and currently you only have stock OC1/deodex or stang5litre OC1 rom to choose from.
That's too bad. Annoying Samsung... What do you recommend for a clean android experience?
Nanometer45 said:
That's too bad. Annoying Samsung... What do you recommend for a clean android experience?
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Stang5litre rom just got on version 2 it is nice and smooth.
No problems battery life is about average for lollipop but not much can be done about that except for greenify and whatnot.
you can check out the changelogs here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/development/stang5litre-ediition-5-0-t3132555
Thanks for the reply. Do you ever presume we will get a full root back? I would like the ability to take this phone over sees where I can buy any such sim card and it will just work. I don't suspect I could do that with just a Odex rom could I?
Nanometer45 said:
Thanks for the reply. Do you ever presume we will get a full root back? I would like the ability to take this phone over sees where I can buy any such sim card and it will just work. I don't suspect I could do that with just a Odex rom could I?
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The device is sim unlocked of of the box so any other sim should work no problem.
I am using Android 9 on my SM-T860. It is rooted. I am using TWRP.
I would like to upgrade to Android 10 with Odin and then re-root the tablet with Magisk using TWRP, is that possible? I think I read someplace that Magisk, Tab S6 and Android 10 were not fully compatible?
Assuming it was okay, do I need to flash WETA kernel and flash Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt in TWRP again before Magisk like I did when I first got the Tab and unlocked bootloader and flashed TWRP?
I also had to hard reboot the tablet while it was building cache (it seemed to freeze and that was described in the root guide I followed) the very first time is booted up after all this rooting, would that be necessary again?
My tablet is one that has crashed several times, I hope that it's a software issue and installing new Android will fix it.
Also, why does my PC spell checker not pick up typos like on some other forum post websites? Why isn't there a red squiggly line under errors for my to right click and correct?
Hello i have an tab s6 from tmobile too i want to know if anybody has flaahed it with uk firmware or any other internatiinal firmware and it runs fine or any links to root and unlock it since i been for more than 10 month with the big T and they dont know how to unlock it any info is apreciated thanks
Actually, I think that if I flash my UK WiFi firmware then I will loose TWRP?
Aid777 said:
Actually, I think that if I flash my UK WiFi firmware then I will loose TWRP?
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Yes. You will lose TWRP. It will be replaced with stock recovery.