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I am due for an upgrade this coming Wednesday and right off the bat I was thinking "I'm getting the new SGS4!"
Well, first off, let me explain that I'm coming from an international imported galaxy nexus gsm. The developer support on this device is amazing!
After seeing the S4 in person the other day I then also wandered off and looked at the HTC One - seems like a nice device, mostly the build quality.
I think the One has great build quality, or at least the materials are nice to the touch for me personally. The SGS4 is great but I hate how it just fits the moniker of "It's made by Fisher Price". Then, lastly I remembered the ol' Optimus G series. Yes, it's plastic like the SGS4 but it does have a nice back glass piece.
I think I am now heavily considering the Optimus G because of price $50 and it seems to have nearly the same chipset/performance as the SGS4/One.
One thing I'm concerned about is the notification LED on this device. How does it work for alerts? Is it multi-colored? Is it just on the side around the power button, or is there a seperate LED on the front plate? With a custom rom like CM or AOKP can you change the behaviour?
Battery life seems to be slightly better than my GNex, but if it outlasts this I'll be happy with that.
The Optimus G has a really nice build quality but you will probably want to get a case for it if you are prone to dropping things. The thing about is the fact that it is somewhat slippery because of its glass body design, but that is what also makes it feel like a substantial and premium device in the hand.
The led light is only located around the power button on the right side of the phone and it is hard to tell if you have a notification based off of that because it is not in your peripheral vision when you are looking at your phone. But even thought the LG OG does not have a removable back and battery the AT&T version still has a micro sd card slot so you are able to increase your storage compared to GSIV which has both.
In the point of feeling in the hand the quality also affects durability. The GS4 has a plastic casing which makes it more durable but cheap feeling. The HTC One feels very nice in the hand with its Aluminium uni-body design but may be prone to denting. But these qualities may be negligible depending on if you decide to use a case or not.
Regardless I like my LG OG because it's a nice device and custom rom development is starting to pickup so that I am not bound to the stock software.
What do use your phone for?
polarzombies said:
The Optimus G has a really nice build quality but you will probably want to get a case for it if you are prone to dropping things. The thing about is the fact that it is somewhat slippery because of its glass body design, but that is what also makes it feel like a substantial and premium device in the hand.
The led light is only located around the power button on the right side of the phone and it is hard to tell if you have a notification based off of that because it is not in your peripheral vision when you are looking at your phone. But even thought the LG OG does not have a removable back and battery the AT&T version still has a micro sd card slot so you are able to increase your storage compared to GSIV which has both.
In the point of feeling in the hand the quality also affects durability. The GS4 has a plastic casing which makes it more durable but cheap feeling. The HTC One feels very nice in the hand with its Aluminium uni-body design but may be prone to denting. But these qualities may be negligible depending on if you decide to use a case or not.
Regardless I like my LG OG because it's a nice device and custom rom development is starting to pickup so that I am not bound to the stock software.
What do use your phone for?
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For what its worth, I just switched back to my Optimus G from Note 2 (same build quality and materials). I missed the Optimus G quality and sturdy feel in the hand. I wont be getting S4 or HTC One, the Optimus G will be fine for me until I see what the Nexus 5 or the next Optimus G 2 looks look.
And what about using a custom ROM like CM or AOKP, can you change the behaviour of the LED light?
For what it's worth you can probably also get the Lgog for like 50$ and the others will most likely be 200$ and it will probably be identical performance.
That's a pretty big factor for me especially since I'll end up on a custom rom no matter what I pick. May as well get the better quality materials cheaper if you aren't losing a lot of performance. (From what I've seen the newer phones aren't a 150$ upgrade anyway)
Regarding LED...
Just think of it as a red light bulb with low brightness.
It is really not noticeable unless you are seeing it from an angle facing the power button directly. There is no color change like GS3.
Honestly LED is kinda useless in OG.
But I hate LED notification on GS3 oh well
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I don't think an OG is worth switching to from a GNex. You have much more active ROM development, and updates to Android as soon as they're available. It took AT&T six months to update the OG to Jelly Bean, and the 4.1.2 version we got is probably the end of that road. And because the dev community is relatively modestly sized, your alternatives are much narrower. On the bright side, LG's stock UI is very nice.
The AT&T OG also has a card slot for up to 64GB, so that might be a factor for you. The Sprint version does not.
The Gnex is just suffering from a lot of lag with 4.2.2 now. Doing some minor tasks it's OK.. but try taking a picture, sharing it via Facebook, or SMS, then browsing the web.. etc.. it starts to show it's age quick compared to these other devices with twice the ram about faster CPU's. I will hang on to the GNex I'm sure but the $50 price tag is a huge bonus seeing as how it's nearly identical performance to the One and the SGS4.
I will end up on an AOSP based rom because I'm a vanilla android lover.
If you need a notification light, the LG Optimus G is not the device for you. It's nearly useless on this device. The rest of the phone is great. I'm waiting on a new Nexus phone or similar before even considering an upgrade.
Well if your on T-Mobile goodluck on getting the LTE work as for weeks and weeks. I've been trying to get the LTE to work for this phone. I'm thinking about switching to the Nexus 4 instead.
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I don't think an OG is worth switching to from a GNex. You have much more active ROM development, and updates to Android as soon as they're available. It took AT&T six months to update the OG to Jelly Bean, and the 4.1.2 version we got is probably the end of that road. And because the dev community is relatively modestly sized, your alternatives are much narrower. On the bright side, LG's stock UI is very nice.
The AT&T OG also has a card slot for up to 64GB, so that might be a factor for you. The Sprint version does not.
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The most honest feedback you'll ever get up there ^
I think the media aspect is partly to blame. This phone is powerful, but people don't care about specs. If it doesn’t have a serious advertising campaign then no one cares. Since this didn't get much commercial attention the dev community is smaller than a lot other phones. If that matters to you then yeah stay with your phone. Also we don't really have much accessories (the actually look good) to work with. If you could careless about all of that and performance is your thing then yes get the LGOG. Bottom line, this is a great phone that didn't get proper attention. -PhonePhan
Oh the aesthetics, u will def. want a case for reasons alrdy mentioned so that kind of negates the feel n admiring it's build quality somewhat.
The GS4 u may want a case as well so can cancel out its poor feel.
Point is, so many talk bout looks and feel etc in reviews and in person but wouldn't most people want a case for protection?
Sony Xperia Z appeals to me if I was in the market right now. GS4 may be 150 more now but that is easily canceled out when you consider resale value. What I loved about my iPhones before switching to android
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Hey all!
So here's my conundrum, I bought an LG G3 in July and ever since I got it I was never really impressed. The screen, which was supposed to be the main feature of the phone, I found to be lacking in color, having milky blacks, and this sharpening effect is deadly in certain situations. I can only use 1 or 2 different homescreen pictures to avoid the sharpening being prevalent on there. Not to mention the qhd is a huge battery hog and causes lag even on simple homescreen transitions (the recent update helped but didnt eliminate lag). On top of that, the bootloader was only recently unlocked so the number of custom roms out there are minimal, this may grow in the future but I'm not holding my breath.
Now, if Verizon were to carry the stock z3 I would get it in a heartbeat, however because they have the "z2" z3v, I'm not quite as convinced. I'm just looking for other opinions. Basically, I hope to be able to sell/trade my pristine lg g3 with a case and tempered glass screen protector for an also pristine sony z3v for less than $100 difference on my end. If I could do this, do you guys think it would be worth it?
This is personally the best phone I've ever owned. When I got my taxes back, I considered picking up the Nexus 6 but when the time came I decided I couldn't abandon this baby. I put all my faith in LG and took the plunge on the G2 and man, I'm glad I did! LG customer for life!
Right there with you, I adore this phone. It does everything I could possibly want with a smartphone, I can hammer away at it all day and the battery holds up, and most importantly it's enjoyable to use. I only realized after I got my G3 how much my old phone annoyed me and how I'd made excuses for all the dumb things it did... night and day aren't different enough to describe the transition!
I love LG's UI and the knock knock feature. They've absolutely redeemed themselves.
I love how the screen size is 5.5", yet smaller than phones with even smaller screens thanks to the incredibly small bezels. The only thing I don't really care for is the quality of the display. QHD is just not needed, it kills the battery when using the screen and hurts performance a tad, I'd be perfectly happy with 1080p. The colors are also muted and off, causing most photos to look more depressing than other phones unless you always use 100% brightness.
This is by far the best Android phone I've had yet. Awesome performance, great battery life, just overall, excellent quality. Would purchase it again if I had to do it all over.
Here's what I've owned since going to a smartphone:
LG Vortex
Motorola Droid X2
Motorola Droid RAZR
Motorola Droid RAZR MAXX
Motorola Droid RAZR HD
This is my 6th Android phone and aside from my Droid RAZR HD (which I was able to actually unlock the bootloader before they patched the exploit), this is the best phone yet. Aside from the fact that the bootloader was unlocked (which guaranteed I'd have root forever), the G3's performance and stability out of the box is bar none the best I've seen yet from an Android phone.
Best smartphone for me so far.
Samsung WM Phone, Treo 700w, Blackberry Storm, BB Storm II, DroidX, Droid Bionic, Droid Razr, Droid Razr Maxx, Droid Razr HD, Samsung, Samsung Galaxy S4, now LG G3.
HTC hero, LG rumor, Blackberry 8330, Blackberry 9630, Galaxy S2,GS3, iPhone 4S, GS4,1+1, S5, LG G3, and back to a GS4.
G3 is a good phone the feel and exterior look of the phone are awesome. The one thing I didnt like was the stock G3 development. There are plenty of Lollipop AOSP roms.
I had a verizon rep tried to talk me into waiting for the iPhone 6, LOL. I ended up selling my buddy my G2 for $150. It was in perfect condition and he ended up falling in love with LG too. If it weren't for LG, I'd probably be a Note 4 or Nexus 6 user right now. Both of which I'd probably be happy with but the G3 is my baby. And I agree with the guy who made the comment about the screen size being big and the phone being smaller than others with the same screen size. I can one hand this device. Whenever I pick up my mother's Note 2, I feel like I'm holding a brick compared to this phone.
I truly enjoy this phone. I needed somewhere to go when BlackBerry, Motorola & Samsung let me down, & LG gave me the proper route. I love the QHD screen but just wish they didn't rush the technology. I really enjoy the UI. Over the last few years, I felt the need for ROMs & drastic changes. That's not the case with this phone. I only had a few tweaks. Overall, this is one of my favorite devices. I look forward to the Lollipop update & the LG G4 truly being a better version of this phone.
Only had it for a few days, but definitely happy. Wanted the largest possible screen in the smallest for factor. This fits the bill. Was easy enough to roll back to 10b, root and install TWRP...now back on 12b rooted and it's doing everything I want it to thus far. If we can keep root on LP by flashing the stock ROM I'll be doing it.
My history to compare it to:
1. Droid X
2. Galaxy Nexus (worst verizon screw up ever...radios)
3. GS3
4. GS4
5. Droid MAXX
6. One M8 (good phone but subpar camera)
I just picked up the G3 from ebay, lightly used. I love almost everything about it except that I am experiencing touch screen sensitivity issues w/ tempered glass on (which I am getting ready to remove).
I am coming from a G2 and the funny thing is that my G2 runs faster than this G3 does... is this normal? Now I will give you the fact that I am running a custom rom on my G2 and stock on my G3 but still. it's nothing bad, but it does lag slightly. Is a custom ROM needed on my G3 to smooth things up? Note that I did already enable developer mode and turned off the animation time to make it faster. I also am running Solo launcher w/ the ultra fast mode on both phones.
So far I am considering, sadly, to keep my G2 instead... thoughts?
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I just picked up the G3 from ebay, lightly used. I love almost everything about it except that I am experiencing touch screen sensitivity issues w/ tempered glass on (which I am getting ready to remove).
I am coming from a G2 and the funny thing is that my G2 runs faster than this G3 does... is this normal? Now I will give you the fact that I am running a custom rom on my G2 and stock on my G3 but still. it's nothing bad, but it does lag slightly. Is a custom ROM needed on my G3 to smooth things up? Note that I did already enable developer mode and turned off the animation time to make it faster. I also am running Solo launcher w/ the ultra fast mode on both phones.
So far I am considering, sadly, to keep my G2 instead... thoughts?
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Changing the Rom has greatly increase the speed of the phone, completely different phone now. If you want to keep a stock based Rom with a little aosp check out eclipse Rom with skydragon kernel.
well i suppose anything is amazing compared to the DINC i was using
honestly though, i was planning on getting the note 3 off of amazon or via best buy. the day before i wanted to get it, it went up in price. I'm sure it was fate, cause i know i wouldn't have been anywhere near as happy with the N3 than i am with the G3 now. its heaven.
fast
smooth
long battery
amazing camera
great screen
'unlockable' BL
and it feels damn good in the hand to boot.
oh yeah, it was free* too :good:
*excluding tax, BS 'upgrade fee', etc. but that's not the phones fault
in_dmand said:
I just picked up the G3 from ebay, lightly used. I love almost everything about it except that I am experiencing touch screen sensitivity issues w/ tempered glass on (which I am getting ready to remove).
I am coming from a G2 and the funny thing is that my G2 runs faster than this G3 does... is this normal? Now I will give you the fact that I am running a custom rom on my G2 and stock on my G3 but still. it's nothing bad, but it does lag slightly. Is a custom ROM needed on my G3 to smooth things up? Note that I did already enable developer mode and turned off the animation time to make it faster. I also am running Solo launcher w/ the ultra fast mode on both phones.
So far I am considering, sadly, to keep my G2 instead... thoughts?
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Yeah the tempered glass screen is a waste. I had it and it got lose and an air bubble got in, and wrecked the whole thing. Put a regular screen protector on; I've knocked my phone against a wall in my room a couple of times (from off the bed) and its been fine.
CisternaChyli said:
Yeah the tempered glass screen is a waste. I had it and it got lose and an air bubble got in, and wrecked the whole thing. Put a regular screen protector on; I've knocked my phone against a wall in my room a couple of times (from off the bed) and its been fine.
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Would a case hold the screen together?
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Number Two Phone
I would consider the G3 my number two compared to the Galaxy S3. I spent two years abusing working with the S3, went to town with different ROMs, took a great number of pictures with it ... and it holds the number one spot for me. It was rock solid for everything I did to it.
The LG G3 gave me trouble within a month with call quality. Months later, the wonky USB port drained my battery from 39% to zero after charging overnight. I seriously thought the phone fried/died and that I would need to replace it with something ASAP (need it for work). Luckily, the phone turned on with a spare battery.
What's great about the G3 is the camera, the gorgeous screen and faster processor. Stock is better on the G3 compared to Galaxy S3's TouchWiz, so I'm happy with it.
I've had no issues with Noot's tempered glass screen protector. It certainly makes the phone's screen look good. I have a thin TPU case and it holds the glass on pretty well. I can also remove the case without disturbing the glass. My only complaint is the serious reflectiveness of it since I came from an anti-glare screen protector. It is virtually impossible to see the screen in daylight when using the phone for navigation in the car.
Yeah the stock Verizon rom definitely lags. But once you install a good custom rom, this baby flies! Especially on Lollipop!
Love my G3 best phone ive had hands down
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I absolutely love my G3 and run nothing but stock. I personally have never noticed any of the lag others have reported, but everyone has different usage patterns and background services running. It runs a lot smoother than my Galaxy S4 (also stock) ever did.
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G3 dropped the ball
In the past calendar year, I've had the G2, M8, and G3. My favorite of those three was the G2. It was a beautiful size with a beautiful screen. The phone had no lag (I was running custom ROMs: Cloudy, Clean Rom, and some AOSP base Roms). I would recommend that phone anyday. The only complaint i had with it was the lack of SD storage. The M8 was a great accidental phone. The camera was disappointing and ending up being the killing factor. I loved how strong development was on that phone. There was little delay from when I got the phone to when i started flashing.
And finally comes the G3. This phone felt rushed. I felt like it should have been released in October of last year instead of summer. The battery took a hit from the G2, the processing speed seemed to be worse, the screen wasn't as amazing. The camera was nice, but the front (selfie) camera was less than stellar (considering I was coming from the M8). I appreciated the removable battery and the external SD card. The last phone that had both of those features was the atrix 4g. The G3 cut too many corners and rushed too many things. I would recommend the G2 over it. It's cheaper and has very few flaws imo
LG G 5 just went way left. That is one ugly phone. LG, on the next V, please just update the processor and keep the buttons just the way they are. Please!
I don't mind the G5 design personally, I think it's innovative and I'm glad there's a major smartphone company willing to take those risks. I do think it's unpolished, but I imagine their next attempt will look better as they refine their ideas. I do prefer the build on the V10, but if the V11 (or whatever it's called) went all-metal and retained the removable battery and microSD I'd be fine. My main concern is the overall cost increasing with features like the DAC/Amp being off-loaded to a separate module. I don't think they've announced module pricing for the G5, but the B&O branding makes me wary that they'll overprice it. That I don't want.
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LG G 5 just went way left. That is one ugly phone. LG, on the next V, please just update the processor and keep the buttons just the way they are. Please!
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After watching both the g5, and s7 unveils this weekend, I may go back to Sammy for the note 7 if the V?? Goes to far that direction... Sammy bringing back expandable storage is huge, that was were they lost me, and I'm sure a ton of others... I love this phone, but we shall see, also interested to see what the next rendering of the moto x pure has to offer...
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Yea they lost me at that too but also battery replacement is a big factor too. The only reason I switched to LG was because of the battery and memory.
The battery on the S 7s got bigger though...so maybe that will work for me. Gotta be a larger phone so the edge. I may just miss the HI-Fi DAC. So maybe just stay with the V 10 for now.
I'm waiting for the Note 6. Will keep my V10 as my backup/secondary phone.
I wasn't positive if the 200gb sdcard would work in other devices, but it does seem to work in my Galaxy Tab S, so maybe the Note 6 if it follows suit with the S7 return of the sdcard slot. But I may wait and see what LG does to lure us away from the Note 6..
I'm not feeling the G5 at all.. I really hope they don't do this to the next V whatever.. I've owned every G phone and now the first V, normally I would get the 5 and then probably trade for the second V... I'm gonna skip the 5 this time.. I just don't need all those extras.. Plus the design is kinda ugly to me.. The sofware is more of what I'm looking at here as it will definitely be on the second V model.. Also the damn rear volume keys are gone, for me I love the rear volume keys.
I hope they keep the rear buttons as is, and keep the dac/amp INTERNAL. I really don't want a swappable system like on the G5.
I would prefer a the home, back, and menu buttons be located somehow in that big black area on the bottom of the phone where the LG moniker is.
they also would make sure the latest processor is in the new device. No need to upgrade to 820, is the 830 is coming out two months later.
improve the bluetooth (mine sucks), improve the speaker output (bring it to the front somehow), and remove the side metal bars, that are only cosmetic and make the device a tad too wide.
The LG G5 took away way too much, much more than it gives back.
They take away:
Reduced screen size.
Removed option for Qi charging.
Removed the audio DAC that was so popular in the V10.
Removed the manual camera controls they added in the V10.
Reduced the battery size.
It gives back....
Metal. (except the chin)
Audio DAC (if you want to give them more money.)
Camera controls (if you want to give them more money.)
Bigger chin (even bigger if you add a module)
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I hope they keep the rear buttons as is, and keep the dac/amp INTERNAL. I really don't want a swappable system like on the G5.
I would prefer a the home, back, and menu buttons be located somehow in that big black area on the bottom of the phone where the LG moniker is.
they also would make sure the latest processor is in the new device. No need to upgrade to 820, is the 830 is coming out two months later.
improve the bluetooth (mine sucks), improve the speaker output (bring it to the front somehow), and remove the side metal bars, that are only cosmetic and make the device a tad too wide.
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side bars help with drops so they are more than just for looks
Milimbar said:
The LG G5 took away way too much, much more than it gives back.
They take away:
Reduced screen size.
Removed option for Qi charging.
Removed the audio DAC that was so popular in the V10.
Removed the manual camera controls they added in the V10.
Reduced the battery size.
It gives back....
Metal. (except the chin)
Audio DAC (if you want to give them more money.)
Camera controls (if you want to give them more money.)
Bigger chin (even bigger if you add a module)
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The G5 was never meant to succeed the V10. I could sort of understand why people compare the two, but they need to understand the G5 is succeeding the G4, which it most certainly improves upon.
LG didn't go for the G4 crowd with the V10. They went for a specific crowd. They went for the power users. The G series is mainly for the average consumer.
Compared to the G4, the G5 adds:
- Fingerprint reader
- Dual back cameras
- Better CPU/GPU/RAM
- Better build quality
- Option for DAC
- Modules
Sure, the screen is 0.2" smaller and the battery is of a slightly smaller capacity, but with more efficient hardware and Android M, it should be fine.
So, compared to the G4, it didn't really remove anything, and that's how this phone should be seen.
By the way, the G4 didn't have built in Qi wireless charging, did it? Didn't you have to add it yourself?
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The G5 was never meant to succeed the V10. I could sort of understand why people compare the two, but they need to understand the G5 is succeeding the G4, which it most certainly improves upon.
LG didn't go for the G4 crowd with the V10. They went for a specific crowd. They went for the power users. The G series is mainly for the average consumer.
Compared to the G4, the G5 adds:
- Fingerprint reader
- Dual back cameras
- Better CPU/GPU/RAM
- Better build quality
- Option for DAC
- Modules
Sure, the screen is 0.2" smaller and the battery is of a slightly smaller capacity, but with more efficient hardware and Android M, it should be fine.
So, compared to the G4, it didn't really remove anything, and that's how this phone should be seen.
By the way, the G4 didn't have built in Qi wireless charging, did it? Didn't you have to add it yourself?
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I will admit I was comparing the V10 to it, however to me this is not an upgrade from the G4 either.
The entire phone has changed, it is almost like its own new line of device.
I did add Qi to my G4, you dont even have the option on the G5.
I do not think the build quality is any better, plastic separable portion does not make me think quality, it makes me think point of failure.
Either way, I am going back to Samsung for this year, it has been 2 years now I was away and I am going to see how the new S7 and Edge are.
Maybe next year LG will have something that interests me again, I hope so.
I think it's funny people want to dump the V10 and go to Samsung just because the G5 changed.
V10 is a totally different phone marketed towards power users. Now if you are an average user than maybe the S7/Edge is perfect for you.
The question here is what if anything can they do to the next V series phone to improve upon things? If they half ass it like HTC did with the M9, releasing a followup just to do it......it will fail. I do hope they take it slow, and don't rush out V phones every year just because....the series needs to present itself to power users, with much more than just an upgraded SoC.
I honestly have no idea as of now what could be done to make the "V20" or whatever it will be, a true sincere sequel. Modular should be exclusive to the G series IMHO. Well see about that I guess.
People don't like change. That is their problem. And further more comparing oranges to grapes make no sense. V10 G5 Note 5. No no no. There is nothing wrong with the G5. But I love my V10. The only issue i have is I'm used the vivid colors on Samsung's super Amoled screens. The V10 doesn't show like that. The color temp is too cool but I've learned to adapt. But speaking of the G5 they did go wrong with the 32gb. Unless the 64gb is only for the V series. Now as for Samsung's S7 ghat is a super sexy phone. But its samsung and all its bloat and that stupid home button on front. They get rid of that and ill go back to them .
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I think all that needs to be done is maybe dual speakers even if they stay on bottom. And address the screen color temp I assume they cant or wont switch to super amoled.
Everyone has their own opinion, personally I think LG went the wrong direction at nearly every possible turn... The g5 is a step backwards. It's a smaller screen, yet the overall size and weight didn't. Who the hell makes a flagship phone that doesn't come with flagship features unless you buy them separately? Plus to my knowledge they still haven't even announced a release date... The g5 and s7 had their previews the same day, and people already have the Galaxies in hand... Another thing, LG users have come to love the control buttons on the back, which is gone now. I guess will see how the next in the Vseries goes, but I may be going back to the note 6. I love my V10, and I'll be here till the note comes along...
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I'll start with my final thoughts, the LG G8X is a mid tier phone with a flagship design, spec wise its on the lower end of the "flagship" phones. Without the second screen the G8X would be a easy pass.
I've had the phone for about a month now, design wise its not premium, its not smooth or fluid around the edges front to back, the buttons sticks out a bit too much IMO, compare to my S9 plus its about the same thickness maybe a 2mm thicker front to back. it feels ok in the hand, I would never want to drop it, unlike all the other major brands I could not find a case or screen protector from Amazon Canada that was not shipping from China. I end up going to ebay to find a case, even the retailer could not find a case, this is how far LG have fallen.
Costco no longer carry LG phones nor does Rogers and best buy since the G7. Back to cases, it seems in other regions LG gave a case and headphones with the phone, for that frak you LG that was a shyty thing to do, for now I have to keep the phone in the dual screen case to protect it. Not including a case to all market is a disappointing move on LG part. (update) I just sold my S9 plus, the buyer was surprised the phone was used because of the condition the phone was in, zero scratches anywhere on the phone because I had a screen protector and various cases on the phone since day one ( Our secret don't tell the buyer I dropped that phone at least 5 times ). I finally received 2 case I bought from ebay as I could not find any local retailer with any LG G8X accessories.
Before I forget, the charging cable needs to be longer its too short to use with the magnetic adapter, it looks really cool on youtube, that's because its super light weight but once you plug the cable in depending on where or how far your plug is it will not work, the weight of the cable going down my side table have caused the phone to not charge because the magnet came loose which led me to buying a new wireless charger because the G8X did not work with my was current wireless charger.
On to the important stuff, the second screen works (yeah), it turns on sometimes by itself when I don't want it on or it turns off and will not turn on until you disconnect the phone and reconnect it, I've had to power down the phone a couple times to get the second screen or the outside info screen working again. As for software, many of you already know its sucks, first off out of the box the unit was not working properly I had to a factory reset twice not a big deal but I never had to do this with any other brand new phone in the last 10 years. I tried using the the LG keyboard but had to change it to the GB.
I've notice I have to hit the back button 2, 3 times for anything to happen, same with the home button, I know I pressed it from the taptic feedback, sometimes there's just a delay either way we should not have these kind of issues on 2019 major brand phone "flagship" at that.
To conclude again the LG G8X is not a flagship phone design and software wise, the idea is great and somewhat refreshing but it is not a game changer in its current form. Software aside if this phone with dual screen cost $10 to $100 more it would be a major pass for me, without the dual screen it would be a major major major major pass at its current price, it would have priced lower than the one plus phones. New G8 can be had for $400 Cad so there you go.
I just got mine and i only got it as a second phone. This phone is a novelty to me. I think that any tech enthusiast buying this phone will buy it with extremely low expectations. This is an LG after all. The same company that hasn't turned a profit since Q3 2014
It's regrettable if you thought you would get flagship performance from this phone. I got it for the party tricks.
Other than that everything you said was spot on and i agree wholeheartedly.
Yeah, I had to disable things like Mini-View and Floating Bar, just because they don't work reliably enough. There are just lots of little things like that. The Samsung equivalents on my Note 8 works much more reliably and has better UI/UX.
It has much promise and potential, but they gotta work on the software and make the UI/UX more cohesive. Now, it's just too rough around the edges.
I think you have buggy phones. I have not had any issues with the duel screen turning on or off. For gaming (Call of Duty) the dual screen is amazing! Wide View is rubbish though as the case is too thick, but works ok for Facebook, seems to add to the experience not detract. Even if you end up reading from only one screen, knowing from peripheral vision what is coming next actually enhances the viewing experience.
I will admit the phone is a bit laggy at times but fingers crossed LG will release Android 10 and we'll get some improvements.
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I think you have buggy phones. I have not had any issues with the duel screen turning on or off. For gaming (Call of Duty) the dual screen is amazing! Wide View is rubbish though as the case is too thick, but works ok for Facebook, seems to add to the experience not detract. Even if you end up reading from only one screen, knowing from peripheral vision what is coming next actually enhances the viewing experience.
I will admit the phone is a bit laggy at times but fingers crossed LG will release Android 10 and we'll get some improvements.
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I'll have to agree with inzimam here. I haven't had any issues with this phone as of yet. It hasn't exhibited any of the characteristics that have been complained about thus far. No lag (at least, no more lag than what is to be expected from a phone), no stuttering, no screen randomly turning off and if it is off I can always get it to turn back on.
As far as the OP is concerned, yeah, if you wanted a phone that was easy to find cases for, you should have gone with an iPhone. Or at the very least, a Samsung. Cases have been and will always be cheap and plentiful for those phones. Everything else, good luck. You are gonna need it.
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I'll have to agree with inzimam here. I haven't had any issues with this phone as of yet. It hasn't exhibited any of the characteristics that have been complained about thus far. No lag (at least, no more lag than what is to be expected from a phone), no stuttering, no screen randomly turning off and if it is off I can always get it to turn back on.
As far as the OP is concerned, yeah, if you wanted a phone that was easy to find cases for, you should have gone with an iPhone. Or at the very least, a Samsung. Cases have been and will always be cheap and plentiful for those phones. Everything else, good luck. You are gonna need it.
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I respectfully disagree with both of you, I forgot to mention when in "dark" mode the notification is still white, how ridiculous is that, the software needs cleaning up, at least 3 times this week the second screen turned on when I unlocked the phone, I know for sure I did not have it on before. Today I got another vague update, no info other than it will make the phone work better, really LG.
You're I could've bought pretty much any other phone and found a case at locally not just an Iphone or Samsung, you bringing up 2 other popular brand is a moot point because you can find cases for Moto, Nokia, Sony, HTC, Honor, Huawei easily. Consumers voicing their opinion is the least we can do, we deserve better not just mediocre like what we got from LG.
I'm using the G8X without the dual screen case right now, I have to be honest its not a upgrade over my S9 plus, this have nothing to do with branding, I still have my G6, I'm no fanboy, I have a Android tablet and a Ipad mini, I see things for what they are..
I haven't reached yet, can anyone tell me if we can remap the google assist button, I hated it on my S9 plus I hate it the same on the G8X.
Thinking on your comment regarding the cases, only a id$#t would suggest to buy another phone if I wanted a case to protect my hard earn money that spent on this phone, finding a case was one issue but it shouldn't be one seeing that LG gave a case to other regions. The product should entice others instead companies after companies are dropping LG phones or their accessories, please leave this fanboyism out of this. LG as company could very well be in trouble, their phones are not selling as well as they should be, more and more companies are coming out with Oled panels so Lg and Sony are no longer the only game in town, in a few years LG oled TV will be meh in the marketplace.
LG needs to clean up the software on their phones, better build, stick to the innovation for at least 3 years, oh, the V50 got Android 10 why not the LGX the last phone you released?
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I respectfully disagree with both of you, I forgot to mention when in "dark" mode the notification is still white, how ridiculous is that, the software needs cleaning up, at least 3 times this week the second screen turned on when I unlocked the phone, I know for sure I did not have it on before. Today I got another vague update, no info other than it will make the phone work better, really LG.
You're I could've bought pretty much any other phone and found a case at locally not just an Iphone or Samsung, you bringing up 2 other popular brand is a moot point because you can find cases for Moto, Nokia, Sony, HTC, Honor, Huawei easily. Consumers voicing their opinion is the least we can do, we deserve better not just mediocre like what we got from LG.
I'm using the G8X without the dual screen case right now, I have to be honest its not a upgrade over my S9 plus, this have nothing to do with branding, I still have my G6, I'm no fanboy, I have a Android tablet and a Ipad mini, I see things for what they are..
I haven't reached yet, can anyone tell me if we can remap the google assist button, I hated it on my S9 plus I hate it the same on the G8X.
Thinking on your comment regarding the cases, only a id$#t would suggest to buy another phone if I wanted a case to protect my hard earn money that spent on this phone, finding a case was one issue but it shouldn't be one seeing that LG gave a case to other regions. The product should entice others instead companies after companies are dropping LG phones or their accessories, please leave this fanboyism out of this. LG as company could very well be in trouble, their phones are not selling as well as they should be, more and more companies are coming out with Oled panels so Lg and Sony are no longer the only game in town, in a few years LG oled TV will be meh in the marketplace.
LG needs to clean up the software on their phones, better build, stick to the innovation for at least 3 years, oh, the V50 got Android 10 why not the LGX the last phone you released?
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Hey, never said that I was right. Just that I haven't had those issues yet.
I agree with you about the dark mode notifications. I suspect that it has something to do with dark mode not officially being available for Android 9... Coming from the LG V30, I'll take any dark mode I can get though.
Not sure where you live, but where I've lived, unless you have an iPhone or Samsung, your options are to order a case online, or order a case online... The HTC One M8 is the last phone I had where cases were actually stocked somewhere in a decent selection... The HTC 10 had a pathetic offering of one case I found at Bell in Vancouver. The case on that phone was almost like Randy's kid brother Ralphie getting wrapped up by his mother to go to school from the movie A Christmas Story. The V30 had exactly double the number of cases as the HTC 10 did, and both were equally as pathetic. The better case was utterly useless after 3 months as it was falling apart. So while I may be an id#$t for suggesting purchasing another phone, it always seems to be that ic you want a decent case to protect your phone, the answer seems to be iPhone or Samsung cause i can never find anything but the cheap chinese garbage cases that wont protect anything let alone a glass sandwich.
As far as fanboyism goes, you should have seen me when Nokia announced they were gonna be purchased by Microsoft... Or when HTC sold its engineering division to Google... This isn't fanboyism... LG would need to make a product that I don't immediately want to re-skin with a third party launcher before I'd consider being a fanboy of LG. ... You know what? I'd even settle for an Android OS upgrade that doesn't drop almost 24 months since that version of Android launched. (Looking specifically at the Android 9 update for the V30 H933 model.) I don't even want a cleaned up OS... I just want a freaking update!
To be honest, all the good phone makers of years gone by are in financial trouble unless they are Apple or Samsung... Nokia got sold to Microsoft, HTC sold its soul to Google, Motorola sold numerous times only to be acquired by Lenovo, and just like that relationship, the big names that are left are still here because they have massive companies backing them up. They don't have to turn a profit to stay alive... Those who did are no more, or aren't what they used to be. If memory serves correctly, Sony and LG haven't turned a profit in phones in close to 5 years. HTC is all but dead, Nokia is a sliver of what it used to be, and we know what happened with Motorola.
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I'm gonna chime in because I've had ever single G and V series device since the G3 so I'm a big fan of LG devices.
I really tried to love the G8X. I think the price point in the us at least (albeit I'm in Canada) is spot on. The concept is fun and the screen is actually pretty nice. I liked the ui although slightly disappointed with night mode not having dark notifications. That will change with Android 10.
Theme system is still great. Actually lg has the best theme system on the market. I'm not talking about variety or quality but rather ability out of box to theme virtually anything with little restrictions.
I found battery life to be exceptionally good. I am also impressed with the sound quality of the device. It is a very loud device.
The second screen is cool and works very well. It obviously adds a lot of bulk and weight to the device. I found myself not actually using it after about a month. For me at least it just isn't needed. I don't play enough games and it just was more of something to show off to people like a hey look at this. But for my use it was impractical.
Camera is a big disappointment from what I'm used to with LG. I think they could have done better. Especially the front one. Mind you I don't do many selfies at all, but when I tested it I was disappointed.
Fingerprint sensor is absolutely horrible. I tried to pretend it wasn't crap but it really is bad. Slow and doesn't consistently work as many have complained. In the end I had to admit it just sucks. The animation for it was badass though. Having no face unlock is kinda disappointing. Even just regular face unlock would have been fine as it always worked well on other non tof devices.
What really killed me was how for at least Canadian devices for almost 2 months now LG has allowed devices to have broken LTE. November security patch broke LTE and lg simply told users to just not use lte and switch to 3g. I did find a fix and made a thread for it. Mind you my fix breaks voicemail shortcut. It does restore LTE. They still have not addressed this. That is completely unacceptable.
So I made the decision last week to sell my G8X. It pains me to say it but I feel I made the right call. It just isn't good enough. My G8 is just so much better and has better features imo.
I'm still kinda bummed about it but I did what I felt I needed to do to recover my money as best I could before the device that I just couldn't love no matter how hard I tried lost too much value.
I've had my G8X for about a month now, coming from a V30. Is it a gimmick? Sure... but it's an incredibly useful gimmick. I've had none of the issues the OP refers to. Zero crashes or second screen shutdowns. I find the fingerprint sensor to be only marginally worse than the case-back sensor on the V30, so to me it's a nonissue.
Complaining that without the second screen the G8X isn't all that is IMO a head-scratcher. The only reason to buy the G8X is for the second screen. If you're not going to use that, I don't know why you would buy this phone.
The charging issues I'm not going to address, as I have Qi wireless chargers both at home and my office, so I have yet to even try wired charging.
Do I wish the case front wasn't mirrored and a fingerprint magnet? Yes. Do I wish the front screen was more than a tiny notification screen? Yes. Since the case is a USB-C accessory, my hope is that either LG or third parties develop other second-screen options that improve the functionality and usability of the second screen case. That's the interesting thing about this approach compared to the "folding phones" model: accessory case replacements and improvements can presumably be acquired without having to replace the original phone.
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Fingerprint sensor is absolutely horrible. I tried to pretend it wasn't crap but it really is bad. Slow and doesn't consistently work as many have complained. In the end I had to admit it just sucks. The animation for it was badass though. Having no face unlock is kinda disappointing. Even just regular face unlock would have been fine as it always worked well on other non tof devices.
What really killed me was how for at least Canadian devices for almost 2 months now LG has allowed devices to have broken LTE. November security patch broke LTE and lg simply told users to just not use lte and switch to 3g. I did find a fix and made a thread for it. Mind you my fix breaks voicemail shortcut. It does restore LTE. They still have not addressed this. That is completely unacceptable.
So I made the decision last week to sell my G8X. It pains me to say it but I feel I made the right call. It just isn't good enough. My G8 is just so much better and has better features imo.
I'm still kinda bummed about it but I did what I felt I needed to do to recover my money as best I could before the device that I just couldn't love no matter how hard I tried lost too much value.
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Sad to see you go, But I totally agree with the fingerprint scanner. It's pitiful. Pathetic. Sorry excuse for a fingerprint scanner. As far as LG software goes, well, you know my opinion on that... The worst part about being stuck on the Android 8 update was Bluetooth on the V30 was so beyond buggy it was a freaking joke... I get your frustration with their pathetic software..
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I've had my G8X for about a month now, coming from a V30. Is it a gimmick? Sure... but it's an incredibly useful gimmick. I've had none of the issues the OP refers to. Zero crashes or second screen shutdowns. I find the fingerprint sensor to be only marginally worse than the case-back sensor on the V30, so to me it's a nonissue.
Complaining that without the second screen the G8X isn't all that is IMO a head-scratcher. The only reason to buy the G8X is for the second screen. If you're not going to use that, I don't know why you would buy this phone.
The charging issues I'm not going to address, as I have Qi wireless chargers both at home and my office, so I have yet to even try wired charging.
Do I wish the case front wasn't mirrored and a fingerprint magnet? Yes. Do I wish the front screen was more than a tiny notification screen? Yes. Since the case is a USB-C accessory, my hope is that either LG or third parties develop other second-screen options that improve the functionality and usability of the second screen case. That's the interesting thing about this approach compared to the "folding phones" model: accessory case replacements and improvements can presumably be acquired without having to replace the original phone.
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Agreed as well. What's keeping me here is I've found the second screen to be useful more than I thought I would, it's supposed to have a Quad DAC (I suspect the ESS Sabre 9218 out of the standard G8, but no one will tell me), and finally, because my pathetic phone carrier wont stock the standard G8.
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Sad to see you go, But I totally agree with the fingerprint scanner. It's pitiful. Pathetic. Sorry excuse for a fingerprint scanner. As far as LG software goes, well, you know my opinion on that... The worst part about being stuck on the Android 8 update was Bluetooth on the V30 was so beyond buggy it was a freaking joke... I get your frustration with their pathetic software..
Agreed as well. What's keeping me here is I've found the second screen to be useful more than I thought I would, it's supposed to have a Quad DAC (I suspect the ESS Sabre 9218 out of the standard G8, but no one will tell me), and finally, because my pathetic phone carrier wont stock the standard G8.
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Only thing I disagree with is the fingerprint scanner. It's not the best but it's definitely not horrible. Coming from the V30 which worked 10/10 times, the G8X works about 9/10 times. However, I still wish it had a face unlock. It would be nice to have it automatically unlock after opening the second screen.
I use the dual screen case about 50% of the time. Having two screens is super fun and useful but I find myself using it less and picking up my V30 more when I have it attached.
There are a few software hiccups that I do find annoying, mostly when I'm using the gestures so I just stick to the button navigation. Also pulling down the notification shade looks kind of janky so I hope they fix some of the animations.
I'm trying hard to love this phone but LG software experience is making hard. The fingerprint sensor is a 7/10 for me, battery life is a hit or miss, with the same usage, the phone in the case no dual screen sometimes I will get 6 hours screen time with 30% battery end of day but other times only 3.5 hours screen on with 34% end of day, more of the latter in my experience. As some mentioned the software is not smooth, be it flickering, delay or just not smooth, comfort view keeps turning off for not reason; lately I've been thinking about my S9+, I'm no fanboy I know Samsung had their issues but it was a better experience all around..
Anyhow hope we get android 10 soon and hopefully it fixes some of these issues, sad thing is you can pickup a G8 for around $300 Canadian, like I said if there was no second screen the G8/V50 would be a better buy if you're looking for an LG phone. I going to try a day or 2 without the dual screen case to see if I get a more consistent battery life.
I'm not hating on LG I just wish they would clean up their software before the go the way of BlackBerry. I think in the next week or so I going to post it for sale, just hope I don't lose money on it. I love the concept, idea, just from the wrong company. The LG G8X should've been released with android 10, instead LG is doing the same old thing, I would take a cleaner experience over android 10 but since I'm not getting either from LG I'll just complain and move on lol.
FYI you can turn on the second screen using the "knock on" or double tap feature.
Some of you that have issues with the screen turning on by itself could just be you accidentally double tapping that screen while handling the phone.
I was also able to find a case for it at The Source.
It's just a basic Pure Gear slim clear case, but the hard case packaging that it came in makes a great storage case for the dual screen when I'm not using it.
I personally love the feel of the phone in the hand being glass all around and not having a camera hump, but it's a slippery unit so a case is pretty necessary.
And the weight of 192 grams makes it feel like a premium device in the hand that could take some abuse (minus broken glass, but that's all phones nowadays).
I was on the fence about keeping the phone when I initially upgraded, and was contemplating returning it for an S10, but I figure the S10/S10+ are going to drop dramatically in price very shortly, whereas I think the G8X will hold it's value longer having the dual case option, and it being less expensive initially.
So far I'm having a good experience, but I may put up for sale or trade for an S10+ in the near future simply because I have zero clue if and when LG will be updating this thing to Android 10, never mind 11....
No way was I going to go for a newer Pixel with their abysmal battery life and no option for an SD card.
Also, anyone who tells me they can tell a difference between the 855/855+/865 I have a bridge to sell you...
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FYI you can turn on the second screen using the "knock on" or double tap feature.
Some of you that have issues with the screen turning on by itself could just be you accidentally double tapping that screen while handling the phone.
I was also able to find a case for it at The Source.
It's just a basic Pure Gear slim clear case, but the hard case packaging that it came in makes a great storage case for the dual screen when I'm not using it.
I personally love the feel of the phone in the hand being glass all around and not having a camera hump, but it's a slippery unit so a case is pretty necessary.
And the weight of 192 grams makes it feel like a premium device in the hand that could take some abuse (minus broken glass, but that's all phones nowadays).
I was on the fence about keeping the phone when I initially upgraded, and was contemplating returning it for an S10, but I figure the S10/S10+ are going to drop dramatically in price very shortly, whereas I think the G8X will hold it's value longer having the dual case option, and it being less expensive initially.
So far I'm having a good experience, but I may put up for sale or trade for an S10+ in the near future simply because I have zero clue if and when LG will be updating this thing to Android 10, never mind 11....
No way was I going to go for a newer Pixel with their abysmal battery life and no option for an SD card.
Also, anyone who tells me they can tell a difference between the 855/855+/865 I have a bridge to sell you...
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If you check kijiji, the G8X is selling for less than the S10 or S10+, too late to get rid of it now, you'll lose money. Even sadder is the s9 and S9+ are getting Android 10 updates while the G8x is still in wind. This is my last LG phone, I can't in good conscience support them, I don't think we the consumers are asking for much from a company that claims to produce "flagship" devices.
Like I said, the idea was a good one but everything else is sloppy not on par with a major flagship smartphone.
I wonder if LG is going to use Covid-19 as a excuse to continue delay of Android 10 update release for the G8X. I'm done with this company, they don't deserve our money.
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I was on the fence about keeping the phone when I initially upgraded, and was contemplating returning it for an S10, but I figure the S10/S10+ are going to drop dramatically in price very shortly, whereas I think the G8X will hold it's value longer having the dual case option, and it being less expensive initially.
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Without the 2nd screen, these are going for 200 USD on ebay, which is crazy for a 6 month old phone. I'm thinking about picking one up.
man this guy is a harsh critic. the phone is great. it's mid-range, so expect mid-range at a nice price point. but this thing has got several flagship features that set it it above other devices in this price range, obviously the dual screen, but also headphone jack + quad dac and surround sound, snapdragon 855, SD slot + 128gb built in, excellent cameras, insane battery life, sleek and quality design. I got it so cheap with Sprint (50% off plus free dual screen) that I can't imagine complaining about it, but maybe if you paid full price unlocked it would be different. great phone imo.