This forum has really died down and it's hard to find specific info on the 610.
Like the forum says--how have you been updating?
There's a ruu update a dev posted in general but the more I read the more I second guess whether it's as easy as just running the exe and following prompts. Other ruu on other HTC phones require relocking boot loader and there needs to be an adb environment present (however most of those threads are several years old.). If it's as easy as just running the exe on any old pc and not locking boot loader I'd just like some confirmation.
OR just share your updating method. It's been like 5 months since I rooted and I've yet to get an update. I'm not overly stressed but I think it'd be dumb to just keep the same firmware forever.
Are you backing up, unrooting, and locking boot loader to get ota? If so are the updates incremental or does it go right to the latest? That's my concern with ruu. It's going to maybe skip 3 or more updates then possibly install one that's incompatible... or not.
Basically any info is welcomed! Please share how you update. Thanks.
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Ok everyone. I like to think I am efficient enough to figure things out and such but I will honestly say I am having a major n00b moment with this one.
In the past, with my older Android phones (Droid 1 and Droid Razr) I was able to root and unroot the phones by following the instructions and ensure if I ever returned my device to Verizon, it gets unrooted and such.
however, now that I have the HTC Rezound from Verizon, I feel pretty stupid when it comes to the instructions I've found.
I gotten as far as unlocking the bootloader which appeared to be fairly simple, but there are just so many instructions out there on how to root the phone I cant make heads over heals on what to do.
Essentially I just want to be able to root and unroot the phone in the event I ever were to return it to Verizon for replacement. Can someone direct me to the proper way in doing this? I'd truly appreciate the help. Thank you all
storo1975 said:
Ok everyone. I like to think I am efficient enough to figure things out and such but I will honestly say I am having a major n00b moment with this one.
In the past, with my older Android phones (Droid 1 and Droid Razr) I was able to root and unroot the phones by following the instructions and ensure if I ever returned my device to Verizon, it gets unrooted and such.
however, now that I have the HTC Rezound from Verizon, I feel pretty stupid when it comes to the instructions I've found.
I gotten as far as unlocking the bootloader which appeared to be fairly simple, but there are just so many instructions out there on how to root the phone I cant make heads over heals on what to do.
Essentially I just want to be able to root and unroot the phone in the event I ever were to return it to Verizon for replacement. Can someone direct me to the proper way in doing this? I'd truly appreciate the help. Thank you all
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Once you have unlocked the bootloader or gotten s-off, you just need to flash a recovery (Amon ra is linked in my sig) then flash a rom. All of the ROMS are pre-rooted. To revert to uprooted, all you need to do is run the GB RUU which can be found in the development section (or google)
AshtonTS said:
Once you have unlocked the bootloader or gotten s-off, you just need to flash a recovery (Amon ra is linked in my sig) then flash a rom. All of the ROMS are pre-rooted. To revert to uprooted, all you need to do is run the GB RUU which can be found in the development section (or google)
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am not sure if i ever had the change to thank you but thank you!
if HTC allows downgrading the bootloader so I can install a custom rom after I make the mistake of taking an OTA update from ATT. With the S4 this wasn't possible. but since this is my first android phone, I was wondering if it was Samsung trying to keep the device "secure" or ATT forcing these companies to keep their bootloaders locked.
some_douchebag said:
if HTC allows downgrading the bootloader so I can install a custom rom after I make the mistake of taking an OTA update from ATT. With the S4 this wasn't possible. but since this is my first android phone, I was wondering if it was Samsung trying to keep the device "secure" or ATT forcing these companies to keep their bootloaders locked.
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Once you unlock the boot loader no update can relock it. HTC offers a lot more freedom than samsung, but at the price of no warranty. So if you unlock it and shatter your screen, don't be upset like other people when htc will not warranty it. As long as you have a custom recovery, your phone cannot even physically take an ota update so nothing to worry about either way.
The Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act is in place for us consumers for this reason. The company has to prove that any modification you did, is the cause of the trouble. So if you unlock your bootloader, root, etc, then crack your screen, as the poster above mentioned, the company can not void your warranty since what you did has nothing to do with cracking your screen.
This was huge for me when I modified my car and I found this here on XDA after doing more searching
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-tv-2/your-warranty-is-not-void-xda-tv/
Oh and yeah,,if you are outside the US, it wont work lol
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if HTC allows downgrading the bootloader
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That depends on what you mean by "allow". You cannot downgrade the bootloader by any "official" means. You will fail version check when you try to install, as you can "normally" only flash a equal or great version number hboot.
But if you are s-off, version check is bypassed, and any hboot version can be flashed.
Similar to a previous response, my advice would be to unlock the bootloader (required if you want to flash custom ROMs anyway) and S-off the phone soon after you get it. Neither of those can be changed by any OTA.
Also, accepting OTA is not recommended on a modded phone, anyway. Whatever came in the update will usually get posted in a stock rooted form in the Development forum, and/or incorporated into custom ROMs, often within days of the OTA rolling out. And OTA will not install on a modded phone (stock recovery needs to be present). OTAs also may plug existing s-off or other exploit; preventing you from doing them if you haven't already (but as mentioned, can't make the phone s-on again). Moral of the story, I strongly recommend against OTA on any modded phone.
Some of these terms/concepts are HTC specific, so may be a bit confusing for you. I would suggest reading up on these forums, if you aren't familiar with s-off, HTC's bootloader unlock process, etc.
Good evening,
I am reaching out to all developers and android enthusiasts here on XDA as I am completely stuck at this point. This post may get a little bit long winded but I wouldn't post if I didn't legitimately need the assistance.
So here is my situation. I have an ATT HTC ONE and I originally rooted this phone thinking that it would improve the devices battery life as I've experienced with any other android device that I've rooted. All my Samsung devices respond miraculously to rooting and couldn't imagine not having a rooted android. Well after a few short weeks I found myself in need of unrooting the device and restoring back to stock(for personal reasons). Upon attempting to relock the bootloader and then reflash stock firmware back to the device I was successful at getting the bootloader relocked but somehow managed to completely delete all;the System partition on the device. I CAN still however boot the phone into the bootloader(into fastboot,recovery, etc) I have TWRP recovery installed on the device but now the phone says that its got 0mb of storage on the phone. Ive spent countless hours trying to figure out how to get the phones original firmware back on the device with absolutely no luck. My current Hboot version is 1.55 and i have S-ON as well. Can someone point me in the direction of a thread where I can some how recreate the system(and other neccessary partitions) to restore the firmware?? Does HTC have anything like KIES that Samsung has where i can reflash my phone?
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Good evening,
I am reaching out to all developers and android enthusiasts here on XDA as I am completely stuck at this point. This post may get a little bit long winded but I wouldn't post if I didn't legitimately need the assistance.
So here is my situation. I have an ATT HTC ONE and I originally rooted this phone thinking that it would improve the devices battery life as I've experienced with any other android device that I've rooted. All my Samsung devices respond miraculously to rooting and couldn't imagine not having a rooted android. Well after a few short weeks I found myself in need of unrooting the device and restoring back to stock(for personal reasons). Upon attempting to relock the bootloader and then reflash stock firmware back to the device I was successful at getting the bootloader relocked but somehow managed to completely delete all;the System partition on the device. I CAN still however boot the phone into the bootloader(into fastboot,recovery, etc) I have TWRP recovery installed on the device but now the phone says that its got 0mb of storage on the phone. Ive spent countless hours trying to figure out how to get the phones original firmware back on the device with absolutely no luck. My current Hboot version is 1.55 and i have S-ON as well. Can someone point me in the direction of a thread where I can some how recreate the system(and other neccessary partitions) to restore the firmware?? Does HTC have anything like KIES that Samsung has where i can reflash my phone?
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Yes HTC has a RUU (Rom Update Utility) You posted in the AT&T forums so I'm going to assume you need the AT&T RUU
You can download it directly from HTC Here
The RUU requires s-off or Relocked bootloader
you relock it with this command
fastboot oem lock
fastboot reboot-bootloader
I've tried that before the ruh fails BC the phone shows no operating system. I've tried several different ones. The one thing that I see in relation to all the ruu threads all say you should see a os version in the current field and in dont. Unless there's some other order of operations Im not aware of when trying to use them.
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I've solved this without an RUU. I will post a "SOLVED" thread in the development page.
Sorry for the delay folks
COrootking4life said:
Good evening,
I am reaching out to all developers and android enthusiasts here on XDA as I am completely stuck at this point. This post may get a little bit long winded but I wouldn't post if I didn't legitimately need the assistance.
So here is my situation. I have an ATT HTC ONE and I originally rooted this phone thinking that it would improve the devices battery life as I've experienced with any other android device that I've rooted. All my Samsung devices respond miraculously to rooting and couldn't imagine not having a rooted android. Well after a few short weeks I found myself in need of unrooting the device and restoring back to stock(for personal reasons). Upon attempting to relock the bootloader and then reflash stock firmware back to the device I was successful at getting the bootloader relocked but somehow managed to completely delete all;the System partition on the device. I CAN still however boot the phone into the bootloader(into fastboot,recovery, etc) I have TWRP recovery installed on the device but now the phone says that its got 0mb of storage on the phone. Ive spent countless hours trying to figure out how to get the phones original firmware back on the device with absolutely no luck. My current Hboot version is 1.55 and i have S-ON as well. Can someone point me in the direction of a thread where I can some how recreate the system(and other neccessary partitions) to restore the firmware?? Does HTC have anything like KIES that Samsung has where i can reflash my phone?
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Sorry for the sluggish delay, due to some scheduling conflicts and other hurdles came into play but nevertheless Im posting my solved post now. head over to the ATT HTC ONE ANDROID DEVELOPMENT FORUM TO FIND THE POST LABELED "SOLVED"
Hello. Thanks in advance for your time and advice.
I've got a brand new HTC One M8, AT&T, firmware says 4.4.2 with no available updates.
I want to create an initial backup. I'm a computer technician, and just dabbling in Android, and it's important for me to make a "clone" of my phone before I proceed to wreck things. (This is a replacement phone, the last one had a hardware issue... I swear... I managed to install ViperOne onto it, for a week before the screen faded to white and died.)
I assume I'll need root access to make a proper backup. I also assume I should use Nandroid. I've not used the app before, but I'm sure I can figure it out. As far as root goes, I previously used Hasoon2000's HTC One 2014 (M8) All-In-One Toolkit, which worked well, as far as I could tell. (It's a visual basic program with scripts to download drivers, register at htcdev, get token id, submit it, unlock bootloader, flash recovery, and lots of nice ADB commands. Is this a good option to use? I hear many people use S-Off, but I don't really see a need... ?
So, I assume I'll need a new token ID from HTC, as the previous one I got corresponds to the old, malfunctioning phone.
After it's unlocked, I'd use the toolkit to grant perm root. That would be a great place to be for now. I plan to wait until the 4.4.4 update is pushed, then worry about installing a new rom.
Am I on the right track?
For the AT&T version (and most the major US carrier versions) we are lucky enough to have RUUs. So really, no need to backup the stock configuration. If you like, grab the RUUs and save them to your computer so you have them ready if and when it is needed.
Nandroid isn't a specific app, its just a generic term for a backup made with recovery. The custom recovery is your choice: TWRP, Clockworkmod, Philz.
Just a personal opinion, I would actually strongly recommend against using the toolkit for a couple reasons: most importantly using the toolkit robs you of an important learning opportunity. Doing the steps "manually" is a key way to learning your way around fastboot/adb. Doing the steps manually isn't that hard, and shortcutting the process with the toolkit really doesn't gain you much. Another key issue, is the toolkit introduces an additional point of failure. In fact, I've seen folks have trouble doing some of the steps with the toolkit; where doing the steps "manually" worked without a hitch. And the toolkit hasn't been updated for a long time, and will install an obsolete version of TWRP recovery, which in itself can cause issues.
If you used the toolkit before, you can certainly use it again. This is likely the path of "least" resistance, the the "easy" way to do things. But I wouldn't necessarily call it the "best" way to do it. If you don't already know your way around adb, I would do the steps manually. Since you have a background in computers, you will probably even find the manual process more enjoyable.
Yes, you would need to unlock the bootloader again via HTCDev.com, as the unlock bin code in based on the phone's unique IMEI.
The process would be as simple as unlocking the bootloader using HTCDev.com (very easy, the website is self-explanatory). Use fastboot to install custom recovery. Then to gain root, just flash SU or SuperSU in recovery. If you need a step-by-step guide, there is an excellent one here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2799796
But also be aware that once the 4.4.4 OTA rolls out, you will need to return to stock recovery, and also restore any system files modifed by root, in order to install the OTA.
Thanks, redpoint73
Exactly the answer I was looking for. The guide looks great. Looks like there's a lot of useful information about reverting to stock, too. I guess I'll have a go at it now, as opposed to waiting for the update. Like you say, it's good to know things. Thanks much.
@redpoint73
Now I'm only asking cause I don't know everything. Couldn't those who have S-off just RUU the update once available instead of reverting to complete stock state(no root,no custom recovery, locked Bootlaoder)?
AT&T HTC ONE M8
jball said:
@redpoint73
Now I'm only asking cause I don't know everything. Couldn't those who have S-off just RUU the update once available instead of reverting to complete stock state(no root,no custom recovery, locked Bootlaoder)?
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Absolutely. In fact S-off is not even required to run an RUU intended for your version (AT&T). If s-on, the added step of relocking the bootloader is all that is needed to run the RUU.
HTC seems to have gotten better about releasing the RUUs promptly. In fact, the previous (ill fated) 4.4.3 update saw the RUU and OTA roll out on the same day. Although this hasn't always been the case. On past devices, the RUUs were not released for weeks (sometimes longer) after the OTA started to roll out. And many folks don't want to wait that long.
Also, relocking the bootloader is not required to OTA, only to RUU.
I just bought an AT&T HTC One M8 that came with android 4.4.2 KitKat. It apparently doesn't have any available android lollipop updates since checking for updates using the "AT&T Software Update" option in settings returns a "no updates available" which was weird, but I didn't mind since I was planning to root this and flash a custom rom.
I read up on guides on rooting and unlocking the bootloader which was pretty standard for most android devices. However, S-on/S-off and hboot are 2 things that are confusing me a bit right now despite doing quite a lot of searching on XDA. To my understanding, S-on/S-off is some kind of HTC protection that needs to be disabled to flash certain roms, and hboot seems to be what people are calling the HTC Bootloader (someone correct me if I'm wrong). If I'm correct, I seem to have hboot version 3.16 according to CPU-Z (I checked the Bootloader version number).
After enough reading, it seems like having the latest hboot version is relatively important for flashing many roms (3.18-3.19 I believe), but I have found no guides on how to do this. My only lead so far is the following thread with 1 reply: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/help/update-hboot-3-18-3-19-t3236897
"Backup any personal data you want to keep (off phone, it will be wiped). Relock the bootloader, run the latest AT&T RUU."
So ok, I guess it's a good thing I'm doing this before rooting the device. However, What's the AT&T RUU? My closest guess was using the HTC Sync Manager on windows to find firmware updates manually, but upon trying this (installing htc sync manager and connecting my HTC One M8) and on the menu clickling "Check for updates", I just get an error message saying "Unable to connect to the live update service".
Then, after some more searching I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/help/how-update-bootloader-to-3-18-0-0000-t3006738 which said the following:
"Follow instruction on the following thread for updating firmware, and select the 3.28.1540 firmware file: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-n"
So, here I am. Unsure whether to follow this instructions since I have no idea what that firmware is or if it will brick my device, or whether it will work since I still haven't rooted or unlocked my device's bootloader and I don't have S-Off (and that thread clearly states S-Off is mandatory for flashing to work). Any ideas?
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edit: I just found out what RUU stands for, but I have been unable to find this "Rom Update Utility". It's spoken as Windows software, but I can't find where to download it. Any help would be very appreciated
sarxion said:
I just bought an AT&T HTC One M8 that came with android 4.4.2 KitKat. It apparently doesn't have any available android lollipop updates since checking for updates using the "AT&T Software Update" option in settings returns a "no updates available" which was weird
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Are you connected to the AT&T network?
sarxion said:
I read up on guides on rooting and unlocking the bootloader which was pretty standard for most android devices. However, S-on/S-off and hboot are 2 things that are confusing me a bit right now despite doing quite a lot of searching on XDA. To my understanding, S-on/S-off is some kind of HTC protection that needs to be disabled to flash certain roms.
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S-off is not needed to flash any ROMs. S-off is one way to update the firmware needed to run a ROM (more on what "firmware" is in a bit), but s-off isn't strictly need to update firmware either (other ways to do it s-on).
s-off is needed to modify (hack) certain partitions that are protected even with the bootloader unlocked. Such as hboot, radio, and some others. But its only needed for those specific things; and not needed to flash custom recovery or ROMs. And note that you can still update hboot, radio, and other firmware by "official" means even with s-on.
sarxion said:
hboot seems to be what people are calling the HTC Bootloader (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
After enough reading, it seems like having the latest hboot version is relatively important for flashing many roms (3.18-3.19 I believe)
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Yes, hboot and bootloader are the same thing, as far as HTC devices are concerned.
Not only is the latest hboot needed to flash the current ROMs, but its important to update the entire firmware package. Firmware includes not only hboot, but also a number of other critical modules such as radio, WiFi, Bluetooth, and others; that all need to be updated in order for the current ROMs to function properly.
Good news, you are on the right track, and the proper RUU will update not only hboot, but all the firmware.
sarxion said:
What's the AT&T RUU?
edit: I just found out what RUU stands for, but I have been unable to find this "Rom Update Utility". It's spoken as Windows software, but I can't find where to download it.
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I've created an AT&T index thread to catalog such things (sticky to the top of the General AT&T M8 section). It explains what an RUU is, and has links to all AT&T RUUs. You will want the latest RUU (4.28.502.1 or 4.28.502.2 - they are mainly the same except the latter has the Stagefright fix):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
The RUU is rather self-explanatory. As mentioned previously in this thread (and on the Index) your phone will be wiped by the RUU. So backup anything you want to keep by your method of choice. Then simply download the RUU to a PC, connect the phone. Then run the RUU program, and it will walk you through the process (you basically just need to confirm a couple dialogue boxes, and the RUU will do the rest and automatically update all the software/firmware).
After that, what you want to do in short is:
1) Unlock the bootloader using HTCDev.com
2) Install TWRP 2.8.7
3) Flash your custom ROM of choice
4) Beer