Hi guys!
I would like to start a small project. The whole point is to find out in which circumstances battery is running down faster/slower. It's more less about consumption and I hope we all will benefit from that simply by knowing what to avoid and if some features of Gear S are really draining battery or if it's just a myth.
I'm really looking forward to update this project in time.
Because of the nature of this project. I would love to get some help. Even if one person wants to participate I'll be thrilled.
Each test takes quite a lot of time so we can get more results if we will work together. I choose to run tests for 10 hours as it will give us more accurate results than anything shorter. 10 hours seems to be right as smartwatch still can be used during the day and whats more important, battery can be run down before recharging and testing.
Watch always on (6th watchface) Wifi/Network/BT(unpaired) off - 10h: 22%
Watch always on (6th watchface) Wifi/Network/ off - 10h: 23%
Watch always on (1st watchface) Wifi/Network/ off - 10h: 23%
Watch always on (Watcher) Wifi/Network/ off - 10h: 25%
Watch off (6th watchface) Wifi/Network/BT off -10h: 9% Comment: I was expecting less usage. BT in GearS was still ON as it can't be turned off (but not connected)
Connected via Bluetooth (Watch/Motion/WiFi off): 10h 11% Comment: Apparently when it's paired with phone (sync) does not make much of the different
Connected via GSM without data (Watch/Motion/WiFi off): 10h 18%
Connected via GSM with data (Watch/Motion/WiFi off): 10h 20%
Connected via UMTS with data (Watch/Motion/WiFi off) - 10h: 20%
Talk time on UMTS with data (Watch ON, Motion off, WiFi off) - 2h21m Screen was lighted up few times just to have a look what's going on
[By saying BT off means that do not keep it connected to your phone]
[While connected to Bluetooth or via cellular network make sure to deactivate all notifications in GearManager App - test will be useless if any notification will be delivered to the smartwatch]
To do a test just after a day of use charge your Gear S fully. After reaching 100% still wait approx 20-30min, choose what test you want to participate, disconnect from a charging cradle, switch the screen off and set an alarm to check it back after 10h
Observations:
Having a "Clock Always On" is not that bad idea. During 10h test it consumed 13% more than without it (6th watchface). So we can assume that during all day (approx 16h) we're loosing only 19-20% of juice. Is it bad? I don't think so... especially because you don't need to light up the whole screen just to check what the time is - which will consume some energy too... In the end of the day it still depends of that how often you need to check the time. If you are doing that very often, than "Clock Always On" is... lets say... more energy efficient solution (and looks much better than dark screen).
The only problem with "Clock Always On" is that, almost every touch, raindrop, wet sleeve triggers screen to turn on and it's very inconvenient for the battery life and it can messing around in the interface - it happened to me when i was walking in the rain.
In my opinion touchscreen should be inactive during that mode or even to give such an option to tick in the settings menu.
Thread to that issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s/help/how-to-stop-accidental-cuff-calling-t2991565#post58596115
What is your brightness setting when your clock is on? If it's set to "auto," then is this being done in a dark room or a bright room?
Seems like losing 20% of battery life after 10 hrs of clock mode on is reasonable at average to high brightness. I wouldn't mind a "clock always on" mode where the brightness is set to min and then the display brightens up when I either touch the display or wake button.
I currently use my Gear S with the "wake motion on" and I'm ending a day of 12-14 hrs of moderate use with 35-50% of battery.
My settings:
Gear S only connected to phone via BT
Wifi off, mobile network off
Set vibration intensity to low (don't see many people talking about this option)
minimal notifications
minimal apps
S voice to wake is off (have to turn off via S Voice settings on Gear S)
Minimal black clock face (batteryclock app)
Screen brightness to auto
I periodically go in to close all recent apps.
I'm always setting brightness to auto but in this case it doesn't really matter.
If you set to max or min ClockAlwaysOn is on with the same level of brightness.
On auto brightness there is no reaction too. Regardless if it is outside in a sunny day or in pitch black basement.
Also during a test just after disconnecting from a charger I'm switching off the screen with a button and after 10h wake it up with a button and straight check battery level. So brightness level won't change much for these 3-5secs
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i am about to install BATTERY BOOSTER on my razr maxx.....i dont think my battery is as strong as they say, yes it last longer than most but i dont think its as strong as people make it out to be....any suggestions on this app ??
Haven't heard anything about this app. Juice Defender is usually the one that I hear the most about.
All they can do is turn off different things at different times... like the 3G/3G data. Juice Defender does what it claims, but at a cost. Turning on the screen to use the browser, there's a long pause before the data "wakes up". I deleted the app. I get 2 days of varied use from my Maxx and that's with the screen at full brightness, 4G on, Bluetooth on, and pretty much indiscriminate use of everything wasteful I can find.
I ran it for a while back on my Samsung Galaxy PLAYER 4.0, it was nice to have easy settting to trigger turning wifi, bluetooth and Airplane Mode on and off with locking and unlocking, but on that device I realized it was a complete waste for me because I could leave airplane mode on all the time on it and I only toggle wifi on if I need to use it right then, so really for the razr's its pretty pointless as most of what it does can be done with SMART ACTIONS, but it would give you a battery percentage and battery temp in your notifications if you like that sort of stuff.
If you want to max your battery and push notifications aren't that important to you use these settings in smart actions:
by default I have GPS off completely, on the rare occasion I need it I will turn it on manually.
I use one primary Smart Action and that is a reprogrammed "Battery Extender" with
TRIGGERS:
Screen Off
Charging (not charging)
ACTIONS:
Background Sync (Disable)
Cellular Data (Disable)
basically with these settings when the screen is off its equivalent to a "dumb phone", you can recieve calls and texts but no "push" notifications, this increased the time between charges by atleast 20% for me.
Also as I say in all these threads not forget to regularly (atleast every 2 weeks) power cycle (shutdown then reboot) your phone, I went like the first month of owning without ever shutting it off and when I got in the habit of doing this I noticed atleast a 10% increase in time between charge compared to never shutting off.
Screenshots of my last battery cycle below.
daniel644 said:
I ran it for a while back on my Samsung Galaxy PLAYER 4.0, it was nice to have easy settting to trigger turning wifi, bluetooth and Airplane Mode on and off with locking and unlocking, but on that device I realized it was a complete waste for me because I could leave airplane mode on all the time on it and I only toggle wifi on if I need to use it right then, so really for the razr's its pretty pointless as most of what it does can be done with SMART ACTIONS, but it would give you a battery percentage and battery temp in your notifications if you like that sort of stuff.
If you want to max your battery and push notifications aren't that important to you use these settings in smart actions:
by default I have GPS off completely, on the rare occasion I need it I will turn it on manually.
I use one primary Smart Action and that is a reprogrammed "Battery Extender" with
TRIGGERS:
Screen Off
Charging (not charging)
ACTIONS:
Background Sync (Disable)
Cellular Data (Disable)
basically with these settings when the screen is off its equivalent to a "dumb phone", you can recieve calls and texts but no "push" notifications, this increased the time between charges by atleast 20% for me.
Also as I say in all these threads not forget to regularly (atleast every 2 weeks) power cycle (shutdown then reboot) your phone, I went like the first month of owning without ever shutting it off and when I got in the habit of doing this I noticed atleast a 10% increase in time between charge compared to never shutting off.
Screenshots of my last battery cycle below.
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What your screen shot shows is that you basically don't use your phone. I wouldn't be able to even get close to 10% screen time if I tried. Unless I just let the phone sleep all day.
can any of you guide me through these smart actions....because even after the help videos and all, i still dont really understand how the triggers and actions work....i dont think im getting nearly the battery time i should out of this phone.....i have to put it on the charger at least 2 or three times out the day for a little while and by 10-11 oclock its still down to about 30-40 percent....and im hearing people getting almost 2 days on a full battery...not me!! so please help
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What your screen shot shows is that you basically don't use your phone. I wouldn't be able to even get close to 10% screen time if I tried. Unless I just let the phone sleep all day.
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I never made any claim to be a heavy user, when at work, home and where I go for my lunch break I use my Laptop, as I don't care to stare at a small screen if I don't need to, my phone is for like when i'm at walmart or somewhere and I need to look something up real quick.
But, for the record the smart action settings I listed will drop your overnight battery drain to like 1% every 3 hours or so which is really a huge boost to those that don't live starring at there phone day in / day out, nothing can help those people but rehab and counseling for there addiction issues, LOL (that was a joke don't get pissed off)
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blueizee said:
can any of you guide me through these smart actions....because even after the help videos and all, i still dont really understand how the triggers and actions work....i dont think im getting nearly the battery time i should out of this phone.....i have to put it on the charger at least 2 or three times out the day for a little while and by 10-11 oclock its still down to about 30-40 percent....and im hearing people getting almost 2 days on a full battery...not me!! so please help
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OK, as simple as I can make this
1. open Smart Actions app
2. click View samples in lower right hand corner
3. click Battery Extender
4. press and hold on trigger labeled Motion Detector, when menu pops up choose Delete
5. Look for + sign just to right of the word Actions (in the middle of the screen), tap the + sign
6. Scroll to very bottom of list and tap Cellular Data, menu will pop up with 2 choices (enable, disable) tap disable
7. (Optional) press and hold GPS under actions, and when menu comes up hit delete
8. Tap Add Rule on bottom left hand side of screen.
your done and set with my settings, AGAIN with these settings your phone WILL NOT RECIEVE new email or other data related notifications while the screen is off, but it will reduce power drain to aproxx 1% every 3 hours while the screen is off (barring other apps running in the background I can't account for), your could also ADD a time trigger if you only wanted it to do it at night so the junk emails notifications don't wake you up.
Hi Guys,
battery life is super important for me because i am all day outside. I had an asus zenfone 3 zoom before (5000mah battery, total beast with 7-10 hours SOT). The asus had a battery saving mode that would "turn off data after screen goes off".
This mode was perfect for me, because the phone was working normal when i use it, and when it lock it, it drains almost zero battery, no background activity (its like being in airplane mode). I wonder if there is any way to do the same with the Mate 10? Any workarounds or suggestions?
With the mate 10 i notice that there is a lot of battery drain when the screen is off. If i go to sleep i will lose 15% the next morning.
I dont like the normal battery saving mode of the mate 10 because it makes the phone slower when im using it, and whatsapp messages/emails dont come through unless i open the app manually, which is annoying. So its not a solution i can use all day.
Any other tips are welcome.
My Mate 8 had this under in the power management tab in the phone manager app. My Mate 10 arrived today, I'll inbox it later and check. 15% drain is excessive, most are reporting 0 to 1% drain.
Ok let me know
Sorry for the late reply, got too carried away testing my new phone
Go to the Phone Manager App, click on the battery symbol in the left bottom corner, then click on the settings icon. The settings icon is in the top right hand corner. There you will see the options to disable mobile data and wifi during sleep.
Install "Brevent" from playstore and set it up using ADB (if you r not rooted)
Will help to boost your batt throughout the day
Is there a way to turn off the notification that says the phone is too hot to charge? I am trying to use Google maps whole charging and the notification keeps popping up and I can't see my screen at all. I need it charging because on long trips the phone would die since maps drains battery fast.
It would not be wise to try and disable that notification. Also how is your s9 overheating? I have never had any heating issues even when im at full brightness, playing music and running google maps at the same time in my car. I recommend putting all your apps to always sleeping in the device maintenance battery saver setting, this will ensure that no other app is doing something crazy in the background and maxing your cpu out. Putting your apps to always sleeping does not disable important notifications such as facebook messages or post updates but will disable apps access to your phones sensors when they are in the background for a couple of minutes, such as step count from galaxy health but u can just not add those apps and they will continue to work fine.
Well I don't want to disable it because I know it will be bad for the battery I just don't want to see the notification because it takes up the whole screen and when I tap it to make it go away it comes back in seconds and I can't see my phone screen
Make sure the phone is fully charged before starting Google maps. It won't get hot then.
Are you using a wireless charger? If so, switch to a wired one. It will generate less heat. Is the phone positioned so the sun is shining right on it? What's the output of your charger? Maybe try one with lower output. I've run Maps on my S9+ while charging many times without issue.
Unpack may be on to something with the idea of background apps eating up battery. I drove from northern VA to southern Delaware (~ 3 hours) using map to navigate without plugging the phone in, and still had close to 50% battery left.
i got pretty good battery usage without high temps. had my phone in power saving mode (limited cpu) and lowering maps accuracy to battery saving.
Sooner or later you will find yourself looking to save some battery life. here are a few ways.
5 Tricks to save battery life:
1: Change to a Dark screen or theme: 0:22
2: Put apps to sleep: 1:39
3: Turn-down display resolution and Screen timeout: 3:07
4: Turn off unnecessary features: 4:36
- Wifi
- GPS
- Bluetooth
5: Switch off Vibration and Animations: 5:25
6: Ultimate Battery saver: 7:00
The video shows how to do these if you're not familiar with the settings on the phone. Feel free to add to the list.
If you have anyways of saving battery ( not turning the phone off...) then share it.
Debloating could potentially save some battery. Turning off Wellbeing as well
agreed with other poster, you are crippling the phone with those features disable. Although, I have been testing dark theme and it does help with battery.
I also went into Settings and search for Usage data and disable most app usage data for apps and it gives a performance boost. I also scaled down animation from 1x to 0.5x in dev option.
#8. Do not your phone
I use Nap Time by Francisco Franco which helps especially when you're not using the phone, just need two adb commands to work. Have also debloated quite a bit and not having any troubles with battery life.
For me, an overnight charge gets me through a full day of normal usage, so I don't bother with many power-saving sacrifices. I use AOD and maximum screen resolution, with GPS, BT, & NFC enabled; I don't engage general power-saving, or debloat or disable apps or services. But I do avoid keeping the screen brighter than necessary, I use Night Mode (dark theme), and I enable automatic control of WiFi (turns on when I'm near a network I use, otherwise turns off).
If I'm traveling & sightseeing, constantly using the phone for navigation, photography, and web browsing, and running through a VPN when on WiFi, then the battery only lasts half a day, so I carry a charging brick to supplement it.
I work where I have a lot of free time but no way to charge my phone so haveing a few ways to save battery helps. I do have a battery pack but sometimes I just don't feel like carrying it and a wire.
When you are out of the house and will not be around wifi for a while, turn it off. It constantly searches.
It's not just a couple things... it's many.
Depending on the user and the variant, what works for some will not work for all. Dependencies... know what they are or learn.
If you're still on Pie DO NOT upgrade as it will make optimizing harder.
My SOT on my 10+ is 7-11% @hr 7% for web browsing and 11% for vid streaming. It rarely goes above that... if so I go looking for the cause.
Google play Services is disabled unless I need it running.
Wifi, always disabled.
Bluetooth as needed.
Manual brightness and syncing except for text.
All power management is disabled except fast charging is toggle off. CPU/display power mode set to optimize.
Google Backup Transport and Framework always disabled.
All cloud crap and carrier, Google, app, Samsung feedback disabled.
Google Firebase, Assistant and Quick Search always disabled.
All emergency services junk disabled.
As much of Knox as possible.
All MS crap.
All AT&T junk except texting.
Much of the Samsung bloatware is package blocked but some Samsung apks are useful.
Package Disabler and Karma Firewall lock it down along with a custom settings configuration. About 86 packages are always disabled with about 7 that are toggled on/off with the PD MDM widget.
(I feel like a youtuber doing clickbait LOL.)
I managed to simulate a "deep sleep" thanks to tasker.
-When you turn on the screen status on the Wifi and bluetooth. Enter the processor at 1.2Ghz. Ondemend
-When you turn off the screen, turn off Wi-Fi and after 5 minutes, turn off the bluetooth. 400Mhz (?) In powersave. I am testing how long it takes to discharge the battery and see the screen time to know how long it lasts. but this will not solve the battery wear because it continues to work in the system but with another governor but less cpu. is necessary to have tasker. This apk has cost. But it is very useful with this.
edited:Hey guys, after all the testing I got 14 hours of battery without using the console. Now when I am writing I am my switch has a 55% battery
To edit.
Would magisk and greenify help with sleep mode?
Mind sharing the tasker's task list? (not sure what its should be called ) - I would appreciate as I'm using the switch as a daily driver for work and play which turning heads now.