I thought I would pick the brains of the T-Mobile users and see what their opinions of the rumors floating around about the S6. I'll start it off with the rumor I heard that Samsung is not going to use the Qualcomm processors in the s6 due to heating problems and will instead use their xynos chipset. How do you all feel about this?
I'm personally hoping this isn't true because development for xynos devices has been dismal. I'm available to jump next month but if this is true I may opt out of upgrading to the s6 and see what the mobile conference unveils.
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Not necessarily the same but there is a section for the International S6 already here if you want to discuss more about the device.
It didn't seem like the S6 was going to have both a removable battery and a MicroSD card slot so that ruled it out for me. Then when my S2 died I had to buy something available today. I couldn't wait for the S6, so I got the S5.
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It didn't seem like the S6 was going to have both a removable battery and a MicroSD card slot so that ruled it out for me. Then when my S2 died I had to buy something available today. I couldn't wait for the S6, so I got the S5.
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I don't get Samsung... instead of being different and building on what made their device "good", they're taking away features. Like you, the non-removable battery and now the microSD card?! I'm done with Samsung when it's time to get a new device.
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I don't get Samsung... instead of being different and building on what made their device "good", they're taking away features. Like you, the non-removable battery and now the microSD card?! I'm done with Samsung when it's time to get a new device.
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has it been confirmed that s6 will have non removable batter and no microSD slot? If not, I'm done with galaxy.
It will have no Sdcard from what I have read. It will come in 3 sizes...
32 gb
64 gb
128 gb
Really no need for a Sdcard with that much storage
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It will have no Sdcard from what I have read. It will come in 3 sizes...
32 gb
64 gb
128 gb
Really no need for a Sdcard with that much storage
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I always prefer an sd card..always. I am not one to use cloud storage and constantly back up my phone. I put all my backups, photos, music and custom ringtones on the sd card. If the phone for whatever reason cannot turn on, (drop, brick, water damage, etc) I can still pop out the sd card, slide it into the replacement and within minutes have everything the same as the now deceased phone.
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It will have no Sdcard from what I have read. It will come in 3 sizes...
32 gb
64 gb
128 gb
Really no need for a Sdcard with that much storage
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It's not always about having the storage space. I use folder mount and it helps greatly. Partly plays with what Kenny is saying. In addition, 32 and higher gig devices usually average a much higher price tag where a 16gig is prefectly fine with a micro SD card. But the killer for me was the 5.6 inch screen. Please Samsung make it at most 5.1. Keep your note series the one to have larger screens.
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I always prefer an sd card..always. I am not one to use cloud storage and constantly back up my phone. I put all my backups, photos, music and custom ringtones on the sd card. If the phone for whatever reason cannot turn on, (drop, brick, water damage, etc) I can still pop out the sd card, slide it into the replacement and within minutes have everything the same as the now deceased phone.
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I agree. My thoughts exactly.
KennyG123 said:
I always prefer an sd card..always. I am not one to use cloud storage and constantly back up my phone. I put all my backups, photos, music and custom ringtones on the sd card. If the phone for whatever reason cannot turn on, (drop, brick, water damage, etc) I can still pop out the sd card, slide it into the replacement and within minutes have everything the same as the now deceased phone.
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Bingo. Having an SD card is not always about extra storage. It's about having safe, removable storage that can survive even if there's a hardware failure on the phone (like what has happened to me many times over the years).
Doing away with removable batteries and MicroSD card slots is anti-consumer. Every cell phone I've had for over 10 years has had both of these basic features. I'm not about to go about legitimizing anti-consumer products by purchasing them. I'll vote with my money, and I refuse to "vote" for things that are anti-consumer and send the incorrect message to the manufacturers that this is ok.
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It will have no Sdcard from what I have read. It will come in 3 sizes...
32 gb
64 gb
128 gb
Really no need for a Sdcard with that much storage
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Maybe with the 128GB. I have a 64GB SD card in my S5 and it's nearly full...along with my internal storage. It's not just music and videos, either. There are several things that I need that require lots of storage space (offline maps for my offline nav app, lots of work stuff, etc.), so 32GB or 64GB will not cut it for me. The problem is that the 128GB versions of devices are usually ridiculously overpriced compared to SD cards. I much prefer to just have the SD card slot.
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I'm trying to make sense of the real difference between the EVO3D's 4GB of internal memory and the Photon/Within's supposed 16+ GB of internal memory.
Is this difference really something to be concerned/though about?
The way I see it, we have been running with 1 GB in most phones in recent history, and most of us just touch the limits of the memory with apps, etc. With the extra headroom of 4GB, I'm not sure there is too much concern for running out of app space (crosses fingers).
So, what is the rest of the memory for? Media? I understand that the internal memory might be faster, but SD cards have already been shown to be fast enough for most purposes (and I believe the Green Hornet comes on the SD card). IIRC, it was quite an anomaly to have the Nexus S store media and other files on the internal memory when it came out.
So, does the 4 GB concern, given the ability to get 32 GB on SD? Or is it a real advantage for the competitors?
It might have something to do with recording in 1080p or 3d . The internal would be faster to record to . Just my thought
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Anytime you write/read to internal its always going to be faster than reading from a SD card. This also holds true with your desktop. Reading from your DDR2/3 Memory will always be faster than reading from your SSD/HDD. I think this is where the above poster actually gives some credibility about his claims.
I don't see the big deal. 4Gb is a decent amount of internal. How many people are going to actually need 16gb of internal space? I'm sure someone will reply and tell me they need it for this and this but I'm sure a large percent will do just fine with 4gb. People do just fine with 1gb.
If you download a lot of games then yes go with the SGS or photon.
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If you download a lot of games then yes go with the SGS or photon.
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My thoughts as well. Funny though, isn't Qualcomm (HTC's chip provider) the one thats going to do a gaming pack?
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If you download a lot of games then yes go with the SGS or photon.
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even with 4-8 times the storage on those phones, they are only using 2x as much for app installation, correct? 1GB v 2GB?
I would rather have a 4gb internal and my 16gb class10 sd card then to have 10gn internal w/ no way to use a sd card with it, but then again I keep my 8gb card that came with the evo set up fully as a back-up card, i have a nandroid back-up and main files i use on my sd card set up on my 8gb cardd so all i have to do it restore and go if anything happens and I have to get a new phone.
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If you download a lot of games then yes go with the SGS or photon.
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If you are looking for a phone to do gaming on you should chose Samsung Within due to terga2 over a phone with larger internal storage
jessejames111981 said:
If you are looking for a phone to do gaming on you should chose Samsung Within due to terga2 over a phone with larger internal storage
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It is not confirmed that the Within will have Tegra2, actually, it is highly likely it will have Exynos. The Photon is confirmed to have Tegra2. Also, the SGS2 is likely to have the highest amount of internal storage, with the Photon having the second largest.
I would have loved the 3D to have more internal storage but coming from the 4G it is still a considerable upgrade. Personally I never had an issue with the 1GB on the 4G so I don't consider the 3D's 4GB a liability.
The lower amount of storage on the 3D was probably a way to keep the final cost down given the other specs to make it affordable and I'm fine with that; $199 s a great price for what you get!
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I would have loved the 3D to have more internal storage but coming from the 4G it is still a considerable upgrade. Personally I never had an issue with the 1GB on the 4G so I don't consider the 3D's 4GB a liability.
The lower amount of storage on the 3D was probably a way to keep the final cost down given the other specs to make it affordable and I'm fine with that; $199 s a great price for what you get!
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I agree we are getting a lot of phone for the money..I thought the same thing with the 4g..now we get a processor that more than twice as fast and four times the internal memory..I don't use a lot of games but my SD card has atleast 10 Roms and 4 full nandroid backups andive never run out of memory..mof I have at least 2 gb left..and that's with stock sd
I suspect there will be far less than 4g actually usable..
I got a low memory error one time so I went thru and unistalled a bunch of stuff I never used. No problem since. And I could probably delete even more stuff.
even 4GB's isn't a whole lot, I always end up with the issue of running out of space on my evo, I switch roms constantly, so Apps to sd doesn't really work for me, I'm hoping I can get away with tons of games installed on just 4gbs.
4GB's of internal on the 3D will be plenty for me. Only recently have I started to have issues with running out of space on the EVO. Ended up just moving a bunch of apps to SD card and all is fine again.
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even 4GB's isn't a whole lot, I always end up with the issue of running out of space on my evo, I switch roms constantly, so Apps to sd doesn't really work for me, I'm hoping I can get away with tons of games installed on just 4gbs.
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the built in a2sd sucks for this, but the a2sd (like DarkTremmors) that allot of the guys put into their roms works very well with this. I got a 4gd ext3 partition on my sd for this and i NEVER run out of space to install apps (in fact i dont even use 1gb up w/ close to 200 apps)
I'm not going to complain as it is a 16-fold increase of storage for me. Mmm... increased internal storage...
Add my 16 gig sd card and I think I'm golden.
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more then enough. This is set aside for apps and OS I believe, and the photon will be the same. The internal space will be partitioned probably for apps and then most of it for storage.
4gb internal is more then enough.
I can see large storage making sense on devices like the nexus s 4g and iPhone because you have no option for an external form of storage but 16/32gb of storage on a device with a micro sd slot is a bit much. I'm not saying they shouldn't make phones with that much, the more the better but I just don't think you need that much. I think 4gb is enough to last us until we upgrade next year.
For the people who plan on having this phone for a second year the internal storage may become an issue in 12-18 months. Next years gen of phones will bring bigger apps, bigger files.
I am looking at picking this phone up, but I saw that the Galaxy S3 supports up to a 64GB microsd card. The Incredible 4G says it only supports a 32GB card, but the Rezound also say that and it will apparently work in there. So, what ya think? I ask because I keep a lot on my phone and 32GB + the 4GB of internal available (after 3GB for the OS & 1GB for apps) isn't going to cut it.
Cloud isn't an option for me, so if anyone knows please share your info. Thanks
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There's 5.21GB of free internal storage. That may not sound like much, but unlike any of the HTC One phones, the Incredible 4G LTE also comes with an empty microSD card slot underneath the battery cover, which lets you increase your storage significantly. My 32 and 64GB SanDisk microSD cards worked fine.
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From the PC World review.
full review here.
Seems like others haven't had any problems using a 64GB either, latest post at the time in this thread. http://androidforums.com/htc-droid-incredible-4g/549054-64gb-micro-sd-compatibility.html
So annoying, another phone I'm interested in ruined straight away by no Micro SD and only a 16gb version. Problem is with tech it moves so fast that making you wait a few months for a 32gb version means I might as well then wait for the Galaxy S4 lol.
I don't get why we're going backwards in terms of storage.
Non expandable storage is pretty much criminal, yeah. Jury is out on the battery size, but there's no reason they couldn't have included a SD slot - it's less than a dollar's worth of parts.
Even if the battery turns out to be adequate, the lack of storage makes the phone untenable. 32gb could have been lived with, 64gb would be ideal.
I understand where you are coming from but when you look from a "normal" consumers point of view they probably could care less because most dont know how it works.
Venekor said:
So annoying, another phone I'm interested in ruined straight away by no Micro SD and only a 16gb version. Problem is with tech it moves so fast that making you wait a few months for a 32gb version means I might as well then wait for the Galaxy S4 lol.
I don't get why we're going backwards in terms of storage.
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I really don't see the problem, okay I lie, I do. But it is not that big of a deal, with cloud storage like dropbox (50 gb free with gs3) and drive, I would mostly use the 11 gb for pics and videos and apps, which fills up fast with the new advance camera's. So I automatically have my pics uploaded to google+, upload my videos via wifee to dropbox. Apps, I'm just going to have to deal with it, music is stored on google music.
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I really don't see the problem, okay I lie, I do. But it is not that big of a deal, with cloud storage like dropbox (50 gb free with gs3) and drive, I would mostly use the 11 gb for pics and videos and apps, which fills up fast with the new advance camera's. So I automatically have my pics uploaded to google+, upload my videos via wifee to dropbox. Apps, I'm just going to have to deal with it, music is stored on google music.
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I have to agree. I dont use my phone to store movies.
I use DropBox & Drive to store music and short video's. With the 100 or so apps I have on my 8GB thunderbolt and tons of pictures, I still have about 1.8GB of free space on it.
Still, it woudl be nice to have a 32GB option, or the SD slot.. very silly of HTC not to have more storage capacity in their new 'flagship phone' ... but 16GB is going to be fine for me for the next 2 years.
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ZigZagJoe said:
Non expandable storage is pretty much criminal, yeah. Jury is out on the battery size, but there's no reason they couldn't have included a SD slot - it's less than a dollar's worth of parts.
Even if the battery turns out to be adequate, the lack of storage makes the phone untenable. 32gb could have been lived with, 64gb would be ideal.
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Strange...... pdadb.net states that the DNA has a micro SD slot supporting up to 32gigs. http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3950&c=htc_droid_dna_adr6435__droid_incredible_x_htc_dlx but that might have been a rumor or based on the Japanese sister phone "J-Butterfly". The Verizon website makes no mention of a micro SD slot though. Deal breaker for me!
I would have loved if it had 32 gigs on board as well. Then the I could have dealt with the lack of micro sd.
I don't want to have to have to play the cloud storage file management game where I have to keep uploading and downloading and deciding what I want on my phone. I don't mind 16GB internal as long as I have a micro SD slot or I don't mind having 32GB and no Micro SD right now. The problem is files and apps are only going to get larger so by the time 16GB goes away in favour of 32GB that'll be too small then too.
I mean just give me an option to have the storage size I want. 16GB is only like 11-13GB usable..... well over half of that goes to my music and then some games are a couple GB now....... suddenly I'm out of space and cannot record video.
Just had an online chat with Verizon Rep and she put me on hold while she checked and confirmed that the micro sd card slot is not mentioned on the specs on the verizon page (as I told her). I told her that Verizon had made a big mistake (with less total memory than my Rezound) on the DNA. She said "Verizon is not the manufacturer" (Duh!). I said true but it is made to Verizon's specifications by hTC.....oh well! I might be forced into the arms of the Galaxy Note II (which at least has up to 64 gigs of micro sd storage available to go with its paltry 16 gigs on board).
Sorry to say it guys, but you are going to see more of this down the road. This has been brought up by all the manufacturers for the last year or two. For some reason the manufacturers want to push us to cloud service. I can see a 32gb coming out soon, but as for sd card slot.... When I first got the phone for testing, the first thing I said was "no SD card slot". After taking with HTC I moved all my music to Google cloud and found that it works very good with the Google Music player. So what I'm trying to say is you are going to see this more down the road.
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Sorry to say it guys, but you are going to see more of this down the road. This has been brought up by all the manufacturers for the last year or two. For some reason the manufacturers want to push us to cloud service. I can see a 32gb coming out soon, but as for sd card slot.... When I first got the phone for testing, the first thing I said was "no SD card slot". After taking with HTC I moved all my music to Google cloud and found that it works very good with the Google Music player. So what I'm trying to say is you are going to see this more down the road.
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I agree. I wonder how long it will be before we see a 32gb version (if we do).
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Until Networks increase data caps dramatically, cloud storage is useless.
Venekor said:
Until Networks increase data caps dramatically, cloud storage is useless.
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Yes your right, something needs to be done. The DNA is not the only new hot phone with no SD card slot, check out the Google Nexus 7 and Google Nexus 4. Like I said we will see more and more of this down the road.
verizon spec'd the phone without a micro SD slot. The J Butterfly did have it (if I remember correctly). Drink up more data from them. That is what they are selling now, not phone calls.
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Yes your right, something needs to be done. The DNA is not the only new hot phone with no SD card slot, check out the Google Nexus 7 and Google Nexus 4. Like I said we will see more and more of this down the road.
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I've been interested in getting a new handset since the Nexus 4 purely because it was so cheap, however without a 32GB model at least it becomes useless for me even at the price, it would be like downgrading. Now however I'm interested in buying a new mobile just because I've gotten myself excited at the thought, even though my upgrade is in April and I'm perfectly happy with my GS2. Now this phone was announced I thought great it's basically a Nexus 4........ no 32GB or Micro SD...... FFS!
I'm just gonna end up waiting till April and hopefully the GS4 will be on the horizon and I'll get that, no way would Samsung design it without a Micro SD or at least a 32GB model.
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dweezle said:
verizon spec'd the phone without a micro SD slot. The J Butterfly did have it (if I remember correctly). Drink up more data from them. That is what they are selling now, not phone calls.
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I just realized that you are absolutely correct ! freakin verizon... why else would they make such a small internal capacity, amazing screen to make u watch more videos and no sd storage
I dont know why that didnt click in my head
I wonder how long will HTC keep bending over for verizon ? until they lose all their customer base completely... ?
It's like a crippled expensive horse. I will wait to see some DNA+ edition etc. Then maybe if the storage is right i will buy it
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verizon spec'd the phone without a micro SD slot. The J Butterfly did have it (if I remember correctly). Drink up more data from them. That is what they are selling now, not phone calls.
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I wouldn't say Verizon spec'd out the phone. HTC took many users considerations into this phone. Remember XDA and/or developers are only a small part of the cell phone world. I'm not saying I like the ideal of 16gb without a SD card, but......
~16GB doesn't effect my choice of any future phone. I got 25GB on Skydrive, 30 on DB and the measly 7GB on GDrive. So essentially those 16GB is only temp storage for photos/videos before I delete them off the phone once i see there already on DB and my music is streamed from Google Music. So the majority of it is for Apps which i don't download many anyways.
You people complain about MORE MORE MORE!! But dam what are keeping on that phone? Pictures and Videos? Things that can easily be lost if the phone gets lost/stolen or outright bricks on you. NO offense
But to each their own
I wan't Google to release a Desktop Client for Android like Zune or ... forgive me iTunes which i can easily plug my phone to charge and everything gets backed up via USB or Wifi.
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~16GB doesn't effect my choice of any future phone. I got 25GB on Skydrive, 30 on DB and the measly 7GB on GDrive. So essentially those 16GB is only temp storage for photos/videos before I delete them off the phone once i see there already on DB and my music is streamed from Google Music. So the majority of it is for Apps which i don't download many anyways.
You people complain about MORE MORE MORE!! But dam what are keeping on that phone? Pictures and Videos? Things that can easily be lost if the phone gets lost/stolen or outright bricks on you. NO offense
But to each their own
I wan't Google to release a Desktop Client for Android like Zune or ... forgive me iTunes which i can easily plug my phone to charge and everything gets backed up via USB or Wifi.
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Not everyone has an unlimited plan, I'm stuck on a shared 4GB data plan w/ 4 people if I go with Verizon. Sprint is starting to get tempting though...
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Tachi91 said:
~16GB doesn't effect my choice of any future phone. I got 25GB on Skydrive, 30 on DB and the measly 7GB on GDrive. So essentially those 16GB is only temp storage for photos/videos before I delete them off the phone once i see there already on DB and my music is streamed from Google Music. So the majority of it is for Apps which i don't download many anyways.
You people complain about MORE MORE MORE!! But dam what are keeping on that phone? Pictures and Videos? Things that can easily be lost if the phone gets lost/stolen or outright bricks on you. NO offense
But to each their own
I wan't Google to release a Desktop Client for Android like Zune or ... forgive me iTunes which i can easily plug my phone to charge and everything gets backed up via USB or Wifi.
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I keep EVERY THING on clouds, picasa , 100 gb google drive , google music
I just dont trust verizon to let me keep my grandfather unlimited forever, and i am terrified to wake up one day to realize that i have a 2gb cap to access 160 gb worth of material
between custom roms , and recoveries and the rom backups , 16 gb is barely enough . at that point , where i will have to buy an mp3 player and carry that separately.
and i can kiss pandora goodbye if verizon caps it
the only thing i am certain of is the phone specs and that verizon are flat out without any conscious or loyalty.
for anyone who wants help making a rom or needs help installing or anything join my hangouts join here im happy to help
OK...you offered...I am thinking about purchasing the Huawei Ascend XT. In the specs (phonescoop) I noticed 16Gb internal storage with 8.4 "open" usage. That's 7Gb of factory installed bloatware? #1. Other than the Nougat O.S. could most of the bloatware be SAFELY removed #2. In asking that...is most of the bloatware Google and google support services?
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let me know what u want removed on it and i can see if its safe to remove did u buy the phone or gonna buy it my swift n fast rom b170 runs the best something on b180 has bad battery drain so if u get it u can use my rom and if u want it customized or me to make u one customized let me know
also its att bloat some huawei bloat i been working on a new one to try replace huawei apps like clock etc with different ones its still in the works but for now b170 swift n fast is best rom
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madvane20 said:
also its att bloat some huawei bloat i been working on a new one to try replace huawei apps like clock etc with different ones its still in the works but for now b170 swift n fast is best rom
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I haven't bought the phone...yet. I'm in need of a new phone and it's just one of 3 o r 4 I'm considering. Doesn't almost 3 Gb's of bloatware seem like and awful lot? It does to me. One other item of question: I noticed and it very much caught my attention, in the specs it states: FM Radio-YES. Is this an FM receiver (local FM radio) or just Internet Stream FM?
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i dont use the fm turner app i remove it from my roms or least my phone my roms have pretty much all the bloat removed that i could find im still working on new one will be a bit the phone is nice just when we finally get a working dev tree etc we will have custom roms the phone has same hardware as honor 5x i do believe the rr port i did where wifi was broke the phone runs fast so im trying to fix the wifi for it for temp if i can if not im still working on my new rom
It's a FM receiver which requires wired headphones to be connected as the wire functions as an antenna too.
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I haven't bought the phone...yet. I'm in need of a new phone and it's just one of 3 o r 4 I'm considering. Doesn't almost 3 Gb's of bloatware seem like and awful lot? It does to me. One other item of question: I noticed and it very much caught my attention, in the specs it states: FM Radio-YES. Is this an FM receiver (local FM radio) or just Internet Stream FM?
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Hey Madvane20.
I'm using stock ROM on B170. My phone only has 8.55GB of internal storage available. From the advertised 16GB. I only have 0.44GB left. I really don't have much on my phone. But as a result of low storage I can't have all the apps and games on my phone that I want.
.how can I expand the internal storage to be more like the 16GB as advertised. What's the highest amount you have available on your phone? Do you have more than 8.55GB on your ROM? If you do how much and link to ROM plz.
Because as you know we can't install aps on the SD card. Or do you do that?
Thanks
Uninstall apps you don't need that take up internal storage, use the storage manager to clear apps caches, move data including music, pictures and videos to micro SD, set apps to store their data in micro SD where possible. Can't do anything else that I am aware of. I usually have 1GB free internal storage after doing this and have to do it regularly.
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Hey Madvane20.
I'm using stock ROM on B170. My phone only has 8.55GB of internal storage available. From the advertised 16GB. I only have 0.44GB left. I really don't have much on my phone. But as a result of low storage I can't have all the apps and games on my phone that I want.
.how can I expand the internal storage to be more like the 16GB as advertised. What's the highest amount you have available on your phone? Do you have more than 8.55GB on your ROM? If you do how much and link to ROM plz.
Because as you know we can't install aps on the SD card. Or do you do that?
Thanks
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im still sick havent got around to much have u tried this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD&hl=en
WifiGhost said:
Hey Madvane20.
I'm using stock ROM on B170. My phone only has 8.55GB of internal storage available. From the advertised 16GB. I only have 0.44GB left. I really don't have much on my phone. But as a result of low storage I can't have all the apps and games on my phone that I want.
.how can I expand the internal storage to be more like the 16GB as advertised. What's the highest amount you have available on your phone? Do you have more than 8.55GB on your ROM? If you do how much and link to ROM plz.
Because as you know we can't install aps on the SD card. Or do you do that?
Thanks
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RE: Madvane 20
First, you need to know that no matter what, there was never 16Gb of memory. They (all electronic storage) "say"-advertise 16gb (or 8 or 2 or 64...etc) but in actuality there is only the nearest binary unit number closest to 16Gb. 16 Gb is actually 16.384 Gb or 16384 Mb.. Got you confused? OK, all storage is designated in "bytes" (one unit of storage) and bytes use the binary system when computing their size/storage capacity. Therefore an "advertised" 16Gb is only actually just slightly more than 15.9 Gb. If your not sure what I'm saying, use a conversion chart for Mb to Gb (or vice-versa) and remember that your dealing in the "binary" code. Then , on top of that, manufacturers set aside a certain number of "sectors" to account for bad/defective sectors that may occur when manufactured. Thus, it would not be unusual for 16Gb to actually only be about 14.7 Gb (or so) of actual usable storage space. Example...I have a "16" Gb pendrive that has 14.5 Gb of "actual" storage capacity on it. If the doesn't make sense to you, look up "How electronic storage works" (google-bing...etc..) Next, look up just how much "space" the O.S. on you phone occupies. Then, after deducting that number from the "actual" storage capacity, you'll be able to determine just how much "bloatware" you may have on the phone and you can -CAREFULLY- start eliminating some of those apps. This will open more "storage space" for personal use, (Mb's) on the phone. One last thing...you can put apps on an SD card. Now, that said, SOME SD cards are not "compatible" with certain phones and that may prevent you from being able apply the apps to the SD card. Some PHONES do not recognize the SD card as "internal" storage and thus, you have to re-format and change the SD card designation to "Internal". And a lot of "bottom-line" phones just don't have the hardware or firmware capabilities to handle this. Now, have I got you thoroughly confused? don't despair...you can easily look up all I've said and read and understand it at your pleasure.
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69Rixter said:
RE: Madvane 20
First, you need to know that no matter what, there was never 16Gb of memory. They (all electronic storage) "say"-advertise 16gb (or 8 or 2 or 64...etc) but in actuality there is only the nearest binary unit number closest to 16Gb. 16 Gb is actually 16.384 Gb or 16384 Mb.. Got you confused? OK, all storage is designated in "bytes" (one unit of storage) and bytes use the binary system when computing their size/storage capacity. Therefore an "advertised" 16Gb is only actually just slightly more than 15.9 Gb. If your not sure what I'm saying, use a conversion chart for Mb to Gb (or vice-versa) and remember that your dealing in the "binary" code. Then , on top of that, manufacturers set aside a certain number of "sectors" to account for bad/defective sectors that may occur when manufactured. Thus, it would not be unusual for 16Gb to actually only be about 14.7 Gb (or so) of actual usable storage space. Example...I have a "16" Gb pendrive that has 14.5 Gb of "actual" storage capacity on it. If the doesn't make sense to you, look up "How electronic storage works" (google-bing...etc..) Next, look up just how much "space" the O.S. on you phone occupies. Then, after deducting that number from the "actual" storage capacity, you'll be able to determine just how much "bloatware" you may have on the phone and you can -CAREFULLY- start eliminating some of those apps. This will open more "storage space" for personal use, (Mb's) on the phone. One last thing...you can put apps on an SD card. Now, that said, SOME SD cards are not "compatible" with certain phones and that may prevent you from being able apply the apps to the SD card. Some PHONES do not recognize the SD card as "internal" storage and thus, you have to re-format and change the SD card designation to "Internal". And a lot of "bottom-line" phones just don't have the hardware or firmware capabilities to handle this. Now, have I got you thoroughly confused? don't despair...you can easily look up all I've said and read and understand it at your pleasure.
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No you don't have me confused at all. Thank you for the response Madame. Sorry for the late reply. Well I think today is the day I will finally root and flash a new ROM. As im tired of EMUI and no adoptable storage.
Can you link me to the ROM you reccomend? I want adoptable storage. Not that much bloatware. Full functionality, including camera, wifi, netflix, wireless display etc. Also I want a little more available RAM if possible. I want adoptable storage. Please reccomend a ROM.
One more thing. I've seen that the Samsung Micro SD cards above 32 GB are working for this phone . But I may pick up a 32GB or 64GB Sandisk micro SD card. Will the Sandisk be just as compatible as the Samsung? I plan to simply get an Class 10 of 95mb read speed and 10mb write speed. Like the Sandisk ultra or the Samsung evo cards. Thank you fam.
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69Rixter said:
RE: Madvane 20
First, you need to know that no matter what, there was never 16Gb of memory. They (all electronic storage) "say"-advertise 16gb (or 8 or 2 or 64...etc) but in actuality there is only the nearest binary unit number closest to 16Gb. 16 Gb is actually 16.384 Gb or 16384 Mb.. Got you confused? OK, all storage is designated in "bytes" (one unit of storage) and bytes use the binary system when computing their size/storage capacity. Therefore an "advertised" 16Gb is only actually just slightly more than 15.9 Gb. If your not sure what I'm saying, use a conversion chart for Mb to Gb (or vice-versa) and remember that your dealing in the "binary" code. Then , on top of that, manufacturers set aside a certain number of "sectors" to account for bad/defective sectors that may occur when manufactured. Thus, it would not be unusual for 16Gb to actually only be about 14.7 Gb (or so) of actual usable storage space. Example...I have a "16" Gb pendrive that has 14.5 Gb of "actual" storage capacity on it. If the doesn't make sense to you, look up "How electronic storage works" (google-bing...etc..) Next, look up just how much "space" the O.S. on you phone occupies. Then, after deducting that number from the "actual" storage capacity, you'll be able to determine just how much "bloatware" you may have on the phone and you can -CAREFULLY- start eliminating some of those apps. This will open more "storage space" for personal use, (Mb's) on the phone. One last thing...you can put apps on an SD card. Now, that said, SOME SD cards are not "compatible" with certain phones and that may prevent you from being able apply the apps to the SD card. Some PHONES do not recognize the SD card as "internal" storage and thus, you have to re-format and change the SD card designation to "Internal". And a lot of "bottom-line" phones just don't have the hardware or firmware capabilities to handle this. Now, have I got you thoroughly confused? don't despair...you can easily look up all I've said and read and understand it at your pleasure.
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Sorry i called you Madvane, Rick new here
What's up. I'm new to these parts of the forums. I have downgraded from s8+'s and now I'm on the H1611. I have your b180 room installed on my device and for the life of me cannot get Xposed to install without dealing with the constant boot loop. I know it takes something like 20 min. I've read somewhere but an hour is ridiculous. I have tried flashing through TWRP and I've tried through Magisk and no luck. Any idea to get Xposed installed?
Current:
Your b180 room
Rooted with Magisk
Another thing is it normal to have ram at like 300-400mb free? This phone feels super sluggish and I think MIUI is far too heavy for this phone. I agree with the folks in here that want lineageos. I'll search for a branch or source tree to see if I can get something going at least. If not I'll join the club with trying to build a tree. This phone has "0" snappiness whatsoever. A friend's LG Leon lte feels way faster than this BEHEMOTH of a phone
epikroms,
You might want to post in the H1611 Xposed thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-ascend-xt/help/xposed-huawei-ascend-xt-t3536003/
several of us have Magisk Xposed installed and working.
Well, I actually have it installed now and haven't posted here since this part of the forums are a complete ghost town. I was gonna share my current build for this device but seeing from the lack of anything here I'm not gonna even waste time releasing it to the general public. And thanks for your response but it would've been easier with just providing some information rather than making me go through pages of nonsense. But the response is what matters. I will be returning back to a real device shortly because this phone is not as snappy as everyone says and nor is it as good as everyone says for it's dollar. I bought this phone and a brand new Samsung j3 and kept this phone because I hate Samsung but now I really wish I had kept it. So good day/evening. I am out....
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epikroms,
You might want to post in the H1611 Xposed thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-ascend-xt/help/xposed-huawei-ascend-xt-t3536003/
several of us have Magisk Xposed installed and working.
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Well what information exactly were you looking for? Installing Xposed is not a one liner and can get a bit complicated with all the different versions.
You could have written up what Xposed version you installed and how you did it to help the next person - that's how forums work.
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Well, I actually have it installed now and haven't posted here since this part of the forums are a complete ghost town. I was gonna share my current build for this device but seeing from the lack of anything here I'm not gonna even waste time releasing it to the general public. And thanks for your response but it would've been easier with just providing some information rather than making me go through pages of nonsense. But the response is what matters. I will be returning back to a real device shortly because this phone is not as snappy as everyone says and nor is it as good as everyone says for it's dollar. I bought this phone and a brand new Samsung j3 and kept this phone because I hate Samsung but now I really wish I had kept it. So good day/evening. I am out....
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Exactly so, why was your reply opposite of what you are telling me? And it's quite obvious that there is only the magisk way of installing it. I'm not trying to argue with you man. I asked that question a day or 2 ago and I noticed that no one really was even cruising around in the forums so I said to myself what the heck, might as well keep trying things on my own. Also, noticed developement has come to a complete stop a while ago. I honestly thought this place was deserted. It's all good though, like your thread says, to ask you anything, so I could get pointed in a different direction haha. All good though,case closed bro later.
epikroms,
It's not my thread - madvane20s thread. Yep, slow around here cause the main party is over since the devices are low volume/low-mid range and been out for a while. Enjoy your J3.
So I'm wondering if anyone has tried. I have a 256GB card already that works fine but I'm running out of space (Yes I'm carrying quite a lot of music with me and yes I do see it as a good thing) my music collection is bigger than 256GB and would like to carry more so that's why I asking.
I know the max is 256GB but I don't know if that's down to hardware (and card slot) or what
No one?
From my knowledge it's only up to 256, so if you get a 512, it may not work. Sorry haven't tried it yet, but as per the spec of poco it's only up to 256. I had a different phone before, a galaxy a8 2018 which suppprted up to 256 as well and when i tried my friend's 512gb it didn't recognize it, so most likely same will happen with the poco
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So I'm wondering if anyone has tried. I have a 256GB card already that works fine but I'm running out of space (Yes I'm carrying quite a lot of music with me and yes I do see it as a good thing) my music collection is bigger than 256GB and would like to carry more so that's why I asking.
I know the max is 256GB but I don't know if that's down to hardware (and card slot) or what
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you can use a 512gb sd card, but as soon you reach the 256gb full, files will get damaged and sd will fail to be recognized by the phone...
TioCareca said:
you can use a 512gb sd card, but as soon you reach the 256gb full, files will get damaged and sd will fail to be recognized by the phone...
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I would also have like to use a 512GB card. Does anyone know why this limitation exists? Is it a hardware constraint with the card reader, or a firmware or O/S constraint? I naively thought that SDXC compatibility would allow anything up to 2TB, but it's clearly not as simple as that.
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you can use a 512gb sd card, but as soon you reach the 256gb full, files will get damaged and sd will fail to be recognized by the phone...
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That was definitely not my experience with other phones. Usually cards with higher than phone rated capacity work just fine.
From my understanding when phone manufacturers say up to 256 gb SD card supported they are saying that cause at that point of time that's the highest SD card available in the market. Most phones that can support 256gb will support higher capacities too.
akshey2021 said:
From my understanding when phone manufacturers say up to 256 gb SD card supported they are saying that cause at that point of time that's the highest SD card available in the market. Most phones that can support 256gb will support higher capacities too.
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The Pocophone F1 was released long after 400GB SD cards appeared on the market, yet they only state support for 256GB??
https://youtu.be/DQfMWA6HmsE
This is what I mean.
akshey2021 said:
From my understanding when phone manufacturers say up to 256 gb SD card supported they are saying that cause at that point of time that's the highest SD card available in the market. Most phones that can support 256gb will support higher capacities too.
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akshey2021 said:
https://youtu.be/DQfMWA6HmsE
This is what I mean.
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Interesting video - thanks. So in theory a FAT32-formatted 512Gb SD card should be supported by any phone that supports FAT32 and SDXC? It's a shame there isn't a more recent video which tries 512GB cards in current smartphones.
In older days, when external storage limited size was 32Gb some Motorola's users (including me with Rokr Z6) used to divide 64Gb as two 32Gb mountable partitions.
You can try it too.
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That was definitely not my experience with other phones. Usually cards with higher than phone rated capacity work just fine.
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did you fill them?
some phones i could use higher sdcards, but in others i got problems the time i reach the advised memory limits...
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Adriano-A3 said:
In older days, when external storage limited size was 32Gb some Motorola's users (including me with Rokr Z6) used to divide 64Gb as two 32Gb mountable partitions.
You can try it too.
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i used to do that sometimes too, and even use sdcard as internal memory with some apps and hacks...
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did you fill them?
some phones i could use higher sdcards, but in others i got problems the time i reach the advised memory limits...
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Currently my 200GB card has 13GB free on my Galaxy S5 (rated up to 128GB). No probs whatsoever.
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Currently my 200GB card has 13GB free on my Galaxy S5 (rated up to 128GB). No probs whatsoever.
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lucky you, or maybe i was using cheap cards on cheap phones ?
I have a 512Gb Huawei memory card on my Poco F1 working fine, I haven't reached the 256Gb capacity because I've just received today. But so far so good ?
Lexar 512GB 633x (black / blue) from Aliexpress is working fine. At the moment 217GB is filled on the card.
(AOSP Lineage 16)
Sir,
Sir,
I don't know if you have found an answer to your question as of yet but I have. I've purchased several different 512gb cards knowing that I had some use for them somewhere. The fact is that the Poco F1 does see 512 gigabytes... And then down the rabbit hole we go. After about 20 to 30 minutes of you installing the card and moving over all kinds of information, the Poco F1 begins to forget things. That's the only way I know how to put it. all the sudden some of the stuff that you have moved over to the card is not reachable even though you still see some of the shortcuts or some of the things that point to it depending on what program you're using and the next thing you know after about an hour and a half two hours it also can't find those either and then some of the program start to crash. These are not programs that I have you some third-party where to move over to the card at all. I didn't move over any software to the card I'm just talkin about moving over some of the things that it was to the card. and then you'll notice after a few more hours that the card is unreadable. The way that you can fix this is to go ahead and put it into any computer and I used a program called mini it's a freeware program to recover the lost partition. then I put it right back in the phone and at first the phone fights with and everything else but you can get it to look at it and see it again only to repeat the exact same problem over and over and over again. The problem seems to be exacerbated if you were to use a torrent program to save data to the driver's if it was a download folder from multiple sources at once. I tried everything I could. I even tempted fate a little bit by saying if I could use aparted the cell phone version in order to partition the drive into two different types of partitions one of them course being the f2fs partition I was trying to see if I could successfully divide the memory card into two partitions so that the computer or cell phone would see them as two separate entities does relieving the problem of it seeing larger than 256. this was not successful though I cannot promise that I did everything correctly. I would greatly appreciate any information you happen to have about this. I have several of these 512gb cards and some of which I saved a lot of money on some of which I spend a lot of money on but they all seem to operate the exact same with the exact same problem. if you had any suggestions on how to add that to a Asus tablet that I'm now having the exact same problem with and much lower micro SD card total capacity sizes than the Poco F1 s I would greatly appreciate that too. The Asus laptop that I'm dealing with is an Asus e203m and it comes with 32GB of real special fast memory that uses hard drive and so you can see we're picking this up for almost nothing is a great deal provided that you're a little tech-savvy can work with clouds quite a bit and hopefully find the solution to the problem and adding a 500 gigabyte micro SD card. The problem is that you can't partition those the way that you'd like or you think that you could. but for me I really love computers and love to turn branches on the weekend so to speak. I'd also love to learn anyting you might be willing to share about partitioning and the like.I know that windows will only see the first partition of a microSD card. but then who wants to be limited to just Windows anyway.
Reborn.N said:
So I'm wondering if anyone has tried. I have a 256GB card already that works fine but I'm running out of space (Yes I'm carrying quite a lot of music with me and yes I do see it as a good thing) my music collection is bigger than 256GB and would like to carry more so that's why I asking.
I know the max is 256GB but I don't know if that's down to hardware (and card slot) or what
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I have Samsung Evo Select 512 gigs and been using it since 6 months.
I have it full almost 90-95%+ full everytime as i load a lot of movies in it. During the time of writing it was 97% full.
It is formatted to exfat and is working perfectly.
There is no data loss or anything like that after 256 gigs.
I hope this answers all your questions.
If you have any more questions just let me know.
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