Hi,
I am on stock rom, not rooted but I have still not received the update for 4.4.4. I am sim-unlocked so i don't know if that has anything to do with it. Even when i try to manually search for the update through the settings, it says it can't find the update.
Appreciate any help!
ImmenseGT said:
Hi,
I am on stock rom, not rooted but I have still not received the update for 4.4.4. I am sim-unlocked so i don't know if that has anything to do with it. Even when i try to manually search for the update through the settings, it says it can't find the update.
Appreciate any help!
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Are you using the phone on the att network? If not you have to load it manually.
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Are you using the phone on the att network? If not you have to load it manually.
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Yeah, I am on AT&Ts network. I have disabled AT&Ts apps though. Maybe that has something to do with it?
ImmenseGT said:
Yeah, I am on AT&Ts network. I have disabled AT&Ts apps though. Maybe that has something to do with it?
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Depending on how you disabled them you might not even be able to flash the ota. You have to have untouched /system and stock recovery in order to take the ota.
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Depending on how you disabled them you might not even be able to flash the ota. You have to have untouched /system and stock recovery in order to take the ota.
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Only disabled them through Settings->Apps. Didn't tinker with anything in this phone as i did with my previous ones.
If you don't mind setting up the phone again, you can RUU (will wipe user data).
Similarly, sometimes folks have gotten the OTA to kick in after doing a factory reset.
Neither of these are ideal I know. But it is what it is.
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as the title says, after rooting, i am unable to check for any firmware updates. i realize it doesnt mater right now as there is noithing out right now, but i like to check often just in case tmobile releases something or samsung. when i go to check for updates by selecting settings>software update and then a warning message pops up: DM initalisation is not ready, Check network or SIM card
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
I was about to ask this same question, and yes i am also rooted. Just wanted to post that you are not alone on this one.
thats good to know, i was beginning to wonder if i was the only one having this problem, for now i unrooted and flashed back to stock using odin, but i miss having root and some of the apps i was using. I am not willing to give up the ability to check for new firmware though as my source at work told me that updates are coming in the next 2 weeks and that we should be getting a text message about them in the next week or so. and just so people know, it wasnt a tmobile customer service rep, i work for deutsche telekom so we here things first usually.
I have this same issue, where I'm unable to check for firmware updates. I am not rooted though... I just bought the phone today and when I click the 'Software Updates' option it says 'No firmware' in a pop-up message. This problem is not only associated with rooted devices.
joshuapurcell said:
I have this same issue, where I'm unable to check for firmware updates. I am not rooted though... I just bought the phone today and when I click the 'Software Updates' option it says 'No firmware' in a pop-up message. This problem is not only associated with rooted devices.
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Read the first post again... yours is the normal message that is displayed when no firmware update is available...
Also, I'm rooted and the update seems to be working fine.
I'm rooted and it pops no firmware.
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If I flash back to stock it works fine when I use odin to go back to stock, but if I reroot it says the same thing. Nothing ever stops it from saying what I posted in the OP. I need some help funding a fix or ok won't be able to get the froyo update when it releases.
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If I use oclf to root and apply the fix, then unroot using oclf, will the factory ota not work?
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Duuude don't worry about it. People will post ROM clockwork backups of the froyo release / stock odin flashes of it / etc.
Anyone will be able to update, however they do so... And just wait til you hear about it THEN unroot and update
yep i'm rooted to and it checks for filmware just fine .
im rooted and get the no firmware message
r0me0ne said:
im rooted and get the no firmware message
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... *sigh* Because there isn't a UPDATE for the Vibrant.
IF I ROOT, WILL I GET OTA UPDATES?
Yes. Rooting will not prevent this, unless you flash a custom ROM that will block receiving the OTA update. If you do receive and download the OTA update, you will lose root. Typically within hours of the OTA becoming available, thanks to some fine XDA folks you can get the update WITH root. You would simply need to download and flash the update like a normal ROM.
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Rooting doesn't mess with your OTA updates, when you update with the OTA it will remove your ROOT. The only way to interfere with OTA's are flashing custom ROMs.
But you cannot get the ota update when it releases if the check for update option under settings is not working. All I want to know is why the firmware update option is broken and how to fix it.
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When I first got my phone I got the message Check network or SIM card. I rooted the phone and still got that same message. I restored to origanal and got the message'No firmware'. Now again I am getting Check network or SIM card.
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But you cannot get the ota update when it releases if the check for update option under settings is not working. All I want to know is why the firmware update option is broken and how to fix it.
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It seems like your phone was more than just rooted. What method did you use to root?
Note: Yeah, the "No Firmware" message is the normal message you get if there's no update available, aka, your phone is searching for and/or receiving OTA updates just fine.
Leoslick said:
If I use oclf to root and apply the fix, then unroot using oclf, will the factory ota not work?
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This was my plan. Although, I'm reading posts that imply that even though a phone is rooted, if the user hasn't flashed a custom ROM, they'll still get the OTA update, and getting the OTA update will unroot the phone.
When this happens, root-necessary apps like ryanza's lag fix, titanium backup and android system info won't work anymore right? Will they need to be uninstalled and reinstalled? Or will I just need to re-root?
Sorry, I'm new to Android and don't know the typical process stock ROM root users go through with OTA updates.
Genuinely, thanks for any feedback.
Yes I wanna know this too. I'm holding off on getting apps for root only because I think they might mess something up. Also I thought I read set cpu spook might mess up the vibrant running oclf. Anyone?
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my wife has a stock, un-rooted dna on T-Mobile after switch from Verizon a few weeks ago. would like to get the 4.2.2 update that came out to the DNA on 12/6. I think it can update if I could find a OTA package zip but so far can't find any. will there be one available soon?
Just wait for your phone to do it, updates are sent out in groups. You may run into trouble doing it yourself.
orangechoochoo said:
Just wait for your phone to do it, updates are sent out in groups. You may run into trouble doing it yourself.
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I tried pulling the update but now the phone is in global/GSM mode and I get a message "your phone must be in CDMA mode" warning preventing me from even trying to do an OTA update. unfortunately the only way I think to get it is by flashing a zip file in stock recovery
you can download the updates from the below link
please confirm if the GSM service is working after flashing the updates.
thanks
mh2hamed said:
you can download the updates from the below link
please confirm if the GSM service is working after flashing the updates.
thanks
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He can't his bootloader is locked. Isn't it?
I have a rooted ATT M8 running the stock ROM. They recently released new firmware and my phone wants me to install. I can tell when they release one because I get a notice saying that "google services are running in the background."
I do NOT want the new firmware, but I can find no way to turn off the update service and it's causing my phone to reboot. I assume that installing this update will break my root. Anybody got any solutions?
I've been wrestling with this the last 2 nights as well. I also didn't want the firmware update. I also had the google services annoying me.
Here's my advice:
1. Take the firmware update
2. Reboot
3. Update SuperSU immediately (use the app itself, it will boot into TWRP and update as necessary, if you don't follow this step, your root WILL be broken, and your phone will likely get locked into a ~3minute reboot cycle).
You shouldn't be affected beyond this point, unless you're like me and your phone automatically reinstalls all the AT&T bloatware on every reboot.
Install Titanium backup and kill the update service. I think it is "Software Updates"
Then you won't have this problem. At least I don't.
lostangelintx said:
Install Titanium backup and kill the update service. I think it is "Software Updates"
Then you won't have this problem. At least I don't.
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I use titanium backup and have looked for the service but the only one I see is called updater. And from what I can tell that's not the right one.
Hmm I haven't gotten any updates
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Alaris said:
Hmm I haven't gotten any updates
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1.54 was the software version at release (April), then the started rolling out 1.58 in May. I haven't heard of any other updates rolling out yet, although an update to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 is supposedly upcoming.
What version is your phone currently?
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jbwitt said:
I use titanium backup and have looked for the service but the only one I see is called updater. And from what I can tell that's not the right one.
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Try what is stated in Post #7 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2752718
You can just "freeze" (instead of uninstall) the service if you're afraid of breaking anything.
Never mind. The poster above me answered it for you.
Ok I froze HTC dm. We will see what happens. I am running 4.4.2. Thanks everybody.
jbwitt said:
Thanks everybody.
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There's a button for that.
redpoint73 said:
There's a button for that.
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Mind telling me where? Nowhere do I see a thanks button. I'm not a forum expert, obviously.
Also, none of the above suggestions worked. Today, when I got home, the phone rebooted again. I believe getting on my wifi is what triggered it (like it was trying to download the new firmware again). I also tried accepting the update but that didn't solve it either. All it did was reboot the phone again when told it to install...and I'm still at 4.4.2.
EDIT: Err, never mind. I reloaded the page and the thanks buttons showed up.
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none of the above suggestions worked. Today, when I got home, the phone rebooted again. I believe getting on my wifi is what triggered it (like it was trying to download the new firmware again). I also tried accepting the update but that didn't solve it either. All it did was reboot the phone again when told it to install...and I'm still at 4.4.2.
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Interesting, it seemed to work for others. Try freezing updater, FOTA, and/or HTCdrm.
Freeze these
Updater.apk
HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.apk
HtcOMADM_ATT.apk
If I take a system update will I lose root? I've blocked updates but was just wondering.
Matt1024 said:
If I take a system update will I lose root? I've blocked updates but was just wondering.
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Most likely.
Matt1024 said:
If I take a system update will I lose root? I've blocked updates but was just wondering.
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If you have made any system changes, you will not be able to accept it anyways. It will just fail.
Matt1024 said:
If I take a system update will I lose root? I've blocked updates but was just wondering.
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Best practice is to wait and see if those that have taken an update are able to Root afterwards, if so then your good!
Personally... I'm just keeping my phone on the 10B firmware until a custom recovery comes. My phone runs great right now.
If for some reason we make it to the Android L update before we get an unlock, then I'm wait and see if it's possible to Root and unlock that prior to updating.
My S4 was on 4.4.4 and really being on 4.4.2 were not missing anything.
- Tapatalked from the G3
Matt1024 said:
If I take a system update will I lose root? I've blocked updates but was just wondering.
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You would lose root.
It's a toss up of whether you would even be able to take the update.
Depends on how they check the file system. Definitely if you are running Xposed, you won't be able to OTA unless you go back to stock.
Somewhat OT, but I was a bit surprised to see that I kept root after a factory reset (TiBu borked myself into a bootloop). Just re-downloaded and installed SuperSU, and good to go.
As per the title, I read something somewhere to the effect that from here on out, OTA updates will fail on most phones if they have been rooted, and this seems to be true for the Z Ultra GPE. So, what changed when I rooted my phone, and how do I undo it so that I can do the OTA update? I have looked through the forum, but nobody seems to answer it. I am rooted with Supersu using the Towelroot method. I am hoping to not have to unlock the bootloader or anything, just want to do this the official way. (I did backup my TA partition though).
jeraldjunkmail said:
As per the title, I read something somewhere to the effect that from here on out, OTA updates will fail on most phones if they have been rooted, and this seems to be true for the Z Ultra GPE. So, what changed when I rooted my phone, and how do I undo it so that I can do the OTA update? I have looked through the forum, but nobody seems to answer it. I am rooted with Supersu using the Towelroot method. I am hoping to not have to unlock the bootloader or anything, just want to do this the official way. (I did backup my TA partition though).
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If your GPe is rooted only, the OTA should install just fine. If you made any system changes, you'll need to revert those though. I ran the OTA while I was rooted and didn't have any problems.
Visa Declined said:
If your GPe is rooted only, the OTA should install just fine. If you made any system changes, you'll need to revert those though. I ran the OTA while I was rooted and didn't have any problems.
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Not so. See:
http://bgr.com/2014/11/14/android-5-0-lollipop-updates-and-root/
As mine is rooted, no dice, the OTA fails. So, how to unroot it so that the update takes?
jeraldjunkmail said:
Not so. See:
http://bgr.com/2014/11/14/android-5-0-lollipop-updates-and-root/
As mine is rooted, no dice, the OTA fails. So, how to unroot it so that the update takes?
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well at the moment that doesn't effect the GPe, and may never. There will have to be a system image flashed to put the block device in a known state before the new way could ever be used, and if there is a system.img we can always flash that to get the OTA to work... no big deal I don't think.
jeraldjunkmail said:
Not so. See:
http://bgr.com/2014/11/14/android-5-0-lollipop-updates-and-root/
As mine is rooted, no dice, the OTA fails. So, how to unroot it so that the update takes?
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First of all, BGR is a garbage site, and I wouldn't believe anything they say, ever. Second, that article is talking about avoiding root AFTER Lollipop is installed.
Having root will not cause the OTA to fail. If your OTA is failing, it's because you made a system change on your device.
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If you were using Xposed, then that is more than likely why your OTA is failing.
What is Xposed? How would I check to see if it has affected my device? Only thing I did was Towelroot and running SuperSU. I may have done something to allow writing to the external SD card, but forget how I did that. I was intentionally trying to keep this phone basically stock so that it would easily update to Lolipop. I did a Titanium backup to the externalSD card and reset it to factory and the OTA update still fails though. I assume this was due to the fact that I rooted it. The bootloader is still unmodified, secureboot is still green - yes, lock state is locked. Only other thing I can think of is I installed an app that allowed me to set permissions by app (turn off location settings by app, etc) Sorry I can't give any more details than that...
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I may have done something to allow writing to the external SD card, but forget how I did that.
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Only other thing I can think of is I installed an app that allowed me to set permissions by app (turn off location settings by app, etc) Sorry I can't give any more details than that...
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If you can't figure out what system change you made to your phone, just factory reset it, and run the OTA again. There was multiple people(me included) that took the OTA successfully, our phones were rooted and SuperSU was installed.
Visa Declined said:
If you can't figure out what system change you made to your phone, just factory reset it, and run the OTA again. There was multiple people(me included) that took the OTA successfully, our phones were rooted and SuperSU was installed.
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As mentioned before, I factory reset this and wiped the cache from the stock recovery mode. Update won't take, stops shortly after it fails with "system update error". Since my last reset (been done a few times) it won't prompt me to get the OTA update, after my last reset last night. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
{Damn thing won't work... (*&^&%^$$#}
jeraldjunkmail said:
As mentioned before, I factory reset this and wiped the cache from the stock recovery mode. Update won't take, stops shortly after it fails with "system update error". Since my last reset (been done a few times) it won't prompt me to get the OTA update, after my last reset last night. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
{Damn thing won't work... (*&^&%^$$#}
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The only fail-safe way I can see is to:
root
back up TA
unlock BL
hotboot custom kernel with recovery
flash 4.4.2
OTA to 4.4.3
OTA to 4.4.4
root and restore TA if you want a working camera
OTA to 5.0
blueether said:
The only fail-safe way I can see is to:
root
back up TA
unlock BL
hotboot custom kernel with recovery
flash 4.4.2
OTA to 4.4.3
OTA to 4.4.4
root and restore TA if you want a working camera
OTA to 5.0
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As often happens, I sometimes see a solution I don't care to implement and begin to procrastinate. So, haven't looked at this problem for a while. I may have found the solution to my problems, but want to know if anyone has experience with it before proceeding. I re-installed superSU and went through the options. Buried in the options list is a box that offers "Full unroot, Cleanup for permanent unroot". What happens when I do this? does it just remove superSU or does it restore the phone back to factory status, before it was rooted? Thanks!
PS: @ blueether the solution is fine and I am sure it would work (I was going to go ahead with it until I saw that option in superSU), but have been hesitant to unlock the bootloader, etc, due to my unfamiliarity with hacking Sony products, and only want to do it as a last, final, no other option solution. Thanks for your help!
jeraldjunkmail said:
As often happens, I sometimes see a solution I don't care to implement and begin to procrastinate. So, haven't looked at this problem for a while. I may have found the solution to my problems, but want to know if anyone has experience with it before proceeding. I re-installed superSU and went through the options. Buried in the options list is a box that offers "Full unroot, Cleanup for permanent unroot". What happens when I do this? does it just remove superSU or does it restore the phone back to factory status, before it was rooted? Thanks!
PS: @ blueether the solution is fine and I am sure it would work (I was going to go ahead with it until I saw that option in superSU), but have been hesitant to unlock the bootloader, etc, due to my unfamiliarity with hacking Sony products, and only want to do it as a last, final, no other option solution. Thanks for your help!
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That's fine and I take no offence at you not wanting to unlock the BL.
I haven't tried the full unroot option in supersu so I'm not sure what the outcome is. One of the other GPe users care to comment?
Well, turns out that the solution to unrooting the phone is to install superSU and than look inthe settings. It will offer you an option to completely uninstall root. It did what it says, and than you can check it with a check root app from the market. It reports that the phone is not rooted. Now the question is, will it pick up the OTA update... No luck with that after a clean factory reset, so not sure what to do next.
2 questions: If I unrooted my phone, and it says it is unrooted, is this true, in the fullest extent? Does towelroot do anything more than adding some permissions ans the superuser file?
If the phone won't pick up the OTA update, why? What went wrong?
Thanks!
jeraldjunkmail said:
Well, turns out that the solution to unrooting the phone is to install superSU and than look inthe settings. It will offer you an option to completely uninstall root. It did what it says, and than you can check it with a check root app from the market. It reports that the phone is not rooted. Now the question is, will it pick up the OTA update... No luck with that after a clean factory reset, so not sure what to do next.
2 questions: If I unrooted my phone, and it says it is unrooted, is this true, in the fullest extent? Does towelroot do anything more than adding some permissions ans the superuser file?
If the phone won't pick up the OTA update, why? What went wrong?
Thanks!
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It sounds like the OTA is not being pushed at the moment/anymore. You could copy it to there the recovery can see it and manually install it
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It sounds like the OTA is not being pushed at the moment/anymore. You could copy it to there the recovery can see it and manually install it
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Can you point me inthe right direction for instructions on this process? Thanks!
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First of all, BGR is a garbage site, and I wouldn't believe anything they say, ever. Second, that article is talking about avoiding root AFTER Lollipop is installed.
Having root will not cause the OTA to fail. If your OTA is failing, it's because you made a system change on your device.
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If you were using Xposed, then that is more than likely why your OTA is failing.
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Your post is two years ago but i think you can help me,there is a new update for my phone and i am rooted i also have xposed installed so this mean i cannot update my sytem? Do i need to uninstall xposed? Im on stock rom and with TWRP recovery it would be a big help if you reply thanks.