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Hello.
Flyer's pen is great, but it is working only in two applications - Notes and Scribe.
I want to use it in Autodesk Sketachpad and Mapple paint.
Is there any way to make it work as usual stylus in other applications?
sadly there's no way at the moment.
htc has released the sdk for it, we can only hope that developers are willing to cater for this.
It actually can be used to select UI elements, but it seems HTC wants to restrict it to writing and drawing. In the "kid mode" app, when painting tab is selected, you can use the pen to select other tabs and tool icons. However, after clicking on a tab, pen no longer works on UI elements.
By the way, pen also works in PDF viewer, Polaris Office, Reader, Picture gallery and kid mode app. I hope more developers will discover its potential.
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sadly there's no way at the moment.
htc has released the sdk for it, we can only hope that developers are willing to cater for this.
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I believe they've merely announced that they plan to.
I am not sure if I have misunderstood what the thread is about... But the pen can be used as a stylus if you turn it around and use the blunt end - it will scroll the screen and register taps/clicks etc.
Be careful though as the finish on the pen is not smooth and if used to scroll and drag it can scratch the screen and/or the screen protector.
If I have got the meaning behind the OP's thread wrong apologies, it is late (here) and I'll get me coat
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Yes, the other end of the pen can be a stylus, Get a screen protector, and wrap the other side of the pen with a film protector likeinvisishield or bodyguardz.
wow ! thanks for enlighten me !!!
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sadly there's no way at the moment.
htc has released the sdk for it, we can only hope that developers are willing to cater for this.
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It has not been released.
It has only been anounced. There is no telling when it will actually be released. The longer they take though the more it will hurt HTC.
I've heard of someone getting the conductive rubber tip from a capacitive stylus and fitting it over the end of the pen. That would work to protect the screen.
I've tried 4 different Capacitive Screen styluses on my Tablet S, with no screen protector, and it requires me to push much harder than on any other tablet or screen I've tried it on.
Can anyone test this out on their Tablet S for me?
Is this normal? Or is this just a defect in the one I got? Give it a try and let me know please.
Ive never tried a stylus on any other tablet than the Sony one I own so I didn't know it was just an issue on this one but yes, the performance of the stylus is horrible.
The stylus didn't work very well for me either. The Nook color I have also didn't work very well. Pretty sure the capacitive touchscreens work differently between iOS and android so this may just be a "designed for ipad" kind of issue.
The problem I have is that I used it on the Xoom and ALL the other tablets they had over at Best Buy on display, and they worked flawlessly. Some of then better than it did on the iPads on display :-( damn it SONY, I think it's just a screen sensitivity thing... if anyone figures out how to increase this, let me know.
Why do you need a stylus anyway? If you really do need a stylus, you should have gotten a tablet that supports an active stylus by either Wacom or N-Trig for actual precision, and quality when writing. I know at least the HTC Flyer and one of the Lenovo tablets support this.
ilnewsome said:
I've tried 4 different Capacitive Screen styluses on my Tablet S, with no screen protector, and it requires me to push much harder than on any other tablet or screen I've tried it on.
Can anyone test this out on their Tablet S for me?
Is this normal? Or is this just a defect in the one I got? Give it a try and let me know please.
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Hi,
A friend of mine recommended the Griffin Stylus, although he has an iPad2 he said that after trial and error with several brands, this one was near perfect.
I'm also looking into this, so that I can use the tablet as a notepad for classes - I have the apps installed already, all I have to do now is find the proper stylus.
Dunno if you guys didnt realize that there is a factory installed screen protector over the glass ( yes glass, mineral glass in fact). thats causing sensitivity issues.
If you read the manual it will tell you NOT to use a stylus. The Tablet S is not meant for anything other than your finger tip.
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If you read the manual it will tell you NOT to use a stylus. The Tablet S is not meant for anything other than your finger tip.
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Not according to the link below
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666381663
I searched all the leaflets and booklets that came with the tablet and could not find any evidence supporting your claim, I also went online to the Sony Forums and nothing about Stylus Pen issues - but it's still possible, as stated, that due to design/build characteristics, stylus pens work badly with the tablet.
So far, according even to my friend's experience on the iPad and the information at the Sony Store, I'm still hoping that maybe the Sony Tablet is just picky when it comes to Stylus Pens and we just have to do our homework before buying one.
I hope that's the case, as I'm planning on using this device for classes and so far, software-wise I'm all set, so all I need now is a suitable stylus pen to write with.
I'll let you know how it goes, but please if anyone else has any successful results on this, please share as well.
Hi, Maybe I am "mis-remembering" it. I believe if you click on the Sony Help Icon it will take you to a website with various tips and information. In there it will tell you not to use anything on the screen except for your finger tips. I should confirm this for you but I am tired and lazy. Anyways, I don't see the point in using a stylus with this tablet. To me, this is the kind of tablet you leave beside the couch or your bed. In my opinion it's not a travel / work tablet.
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Hi, Maybe I am "mis-remembering" it. I believe if you click on the Sony Help Icon it will take you to a website with various tips and information. In there it will tell you not to use anything on the screen except for your finger tips. I should confirm this for you but I am tired and lazy. Anyways, I don't see the point in using a stylus with this tablet. To me, this is the kind of tablet you leave beside the couch or your bed. In my opinion it's not a travel / work tablet.
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Couldn't disagree more, this tablet keeps surprising me, in a positive way.
Work is always relative, travel is just not so as this seems more and more as THE partner to have, but opinions come and go, of course.
As for facts, check the image below - and hopefully the stylus drama dies here.
Griffin stylus pen, GC16040 - 4.3" length, in an orange box.
I'm still to put the screen protector, will report back as it is done.
wickwire said:
Couldn't disagree more, this tablet keeps surprising me, in a positive way.
Work is always relative, travel is just not so as this seems more and more as THE partner to have, but opinions come and go, of course.
As for facts, check the image below - and hopefully the stylus drama dies here.
Griffin stylus pen, GC16040 - 4.3" length, in an orange box.
I'm still to put the screen protector, will report back as it is done.
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I picked up the Griffin stylus GC16040 and it isn't working well with mine with the Sony screen protector on. I still had to give in a good amount of pressure for it to work.
Has anyone tried the stylus sold on the Sony store website?
I'm going to assume it'll work because Sony is selling it, and it says specifically that it is for Sony tablets. I'm going to place an order to try it out.
Yh
Evo 4G63 said:
I picked up the Griffin stylus GC16040 and it isn't working well with mine with the Sony screen protector on. I still had to give in a good amount of pressure for it to work.
Has anyone tried the stylus sold on the Sony store website?
I'm going to assume it'll work because Sony is selling it, and it says specifically that it is for Sony tablets. I'm going to place an order to try it out.
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I got my screen protector from amazon today - not the official sony one, and another set of stylus pens - Groov-e, GV-CP2
Both stylus packs work ok, but with screen protector I do have to apply some little pressure, but I have to say that for me, it's basically the same as when writing with normal pen and paper...
I do notice a slightly more diffuse image due to the protector, and the griffin stylus is alot softer to use than the Groov-e ones.
Both work ok, but the Groov-e just seemed slightly rougher, when typing I get a subtle scraping sound...
I also noticed that not all apps behave the same with this, personally I liked genie writing best, whereas hand writing HD didn't feel so precise in capturing my strokes.
Sample 2 in attach.
wickwire said:
Yh
I got my screen protector from amazon today - not the official sony one, and another set of stylus pens - Groov-e, GV-CP2
Both stylus packs work ok, but with screen protector I do have to apply some little pressure, but I have to say that for me, it's basically the same as when writing with normal pen and paper...
I do notice a slightly more diffuse image due to the protector, and the griffin stylus is alot softer to use than the Groov-e ones.
Both work ok, but the Groov-e just seemed slightly rougher, when typing I get a subtle scraping sound...
I also noticed that not all apps behave the same with this, personally I liked genie writing best, whereas hand writing HD didn't feel so precise in capturing my strokes.
Sample 2 in attach.
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Which screen protector did you get exactly?
Drawing in supernote is the same with your finger or stylus, not great. It misses some inputs when drawing. I'm sure with future updates it will get better. I'm using a targus stylus.
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Stylus on Sony Tablet S
I bought these TOUCH SCREEN STYLUS FOR Huawei IDEOS S7 Slim Tablet
on ebay and tested them on my Sony Tablet S and Galaxy S phone.
It works 100x better on my galaxy s phone than on the sony tablet.
They do work on the sony but the sensitivity isn't there, a fair amount of pressure is needed in order for it to respond.
I'm also interested to see if anyone else gets a better result with the targus stylus that sony sells.
I created a short video to show the problem. Go to youtube and search for AntMoore23, go on my channel and watch.
I think for the Sony it has a special resin that allows the screen to have a better black response. I think maybe that's the reason why the stylus response is bad. Just something to keep in mind.
I use a griffin stylus (GC17125) with sketchbook pro every day and it work just fine.
I also tried to build my own stylus with a sponge and some other crap (try a search on youtube) but without success.
did anyone try using the Stylus used in the video here, they call it a Wacom Active Digitizer
http://youtu.be/oty4ukjSIjg
The active digitizer is not the stylus, it's part of the screen technology inside the tablet, similar to the Galaxy Note.
I want to know if anyone take notes with your transformer. And i need an opinion about a good cheap capacitive pen, and a good app tu take these notes. Thank you all.
PS- I live in Portugal. If I were to buy online I would prefer buying at least inside the EU.
I'm using the classic pen from www.adonit.net. It's a wonderful pen for only 20 dollars. It's super acurate and works wonders.
As for the app i use, I use a couple diffrent ones. I find that when i need to type something, like review questions for a quiz, Kingsoft Office works wonders.
https://market.android.com/details?id=cn.wps.moffice_eng&hl=en
As for notes with the pen and such, I use WritePad.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.writepad&hl=en
There's also another app called antipaper, but I dont't have the pro version of that. If you need screen shots I can post some later. Otherwise check out the Adonit Jot thread for screens of diffrent not taking apps, and the pen it's self.
i just use the built in one called supernote. You can type fine as well as handwrite and add anotations such as diagrams. been using it now for about 4 months with no issue
I'm taking a lot of notes.
It's not easy, far from writing on paper, yet dooable and saves you a lot of time and strugle with sheets of paper and notebooks.
Cheap styluses - are very bad, don't buy them.
Adonit Jot - better for writing.
A tablet with digitizer stylus will be probably a much better choice for taking handwritten notes (although I'm not sure if accuracy of those kind of styluses is enough for easy writing).
Hi!
Thanks a lot all the answers. I see that this Adonit Jot is the way to go. Another thing, when I write on paper, e usually do a lot of pressure, if I accidentally put to much pressure writing can I wreck the screen/pen? Thanks again.
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Hi!
Thanks a lot all the answers. I see that this Adonit Jot is the way to go. Another thing, when I write on paper, e usually do a lot of pressure, if I accidentally put to much pressure writing can I wreck the screen/pen? Thanks again.
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Please do additional research on the Jot before you purchase it. Read the entire thread from start to finish than google it and read others opinions. There is a lot of problems with skipping but than again alot of people have no issues with it. I guess the luck of the draw.
I do a lot of handwriting each day for work and i tried the jot but had issues so i returned it- it wasn;t for me- I went back to my cheap Acase II stylus purchased on Ebay $9.95 delivered. And it works the best. One thing to do when you use a rubber tip stylus is to clean your screen than coat it with RainX and you will have no binding of the rubber tip stylus. And minimal fingerprints- will need to recoat once a month.
I use Antipaper, Supernote and Genial writer, Another one which is new but will be good is Phatpad- this one needs some improvement but keep watching for additional updates before you purchase it.
Good luck.
Edit: I forgot to mention this beta app i just started using- 7Notes handwriting recongnition works great so far- also works with evernote
https://market.android.com/details?....sevenknowledge.sevennotesbetaen&rdot=1&pli=1
Thanks a lot for your opinion. Just one thing, what is this RainX coating? I'm not sure I´ve understood what it does. About the App, i've been playing with supernote, and it isn't the type of App I was looking for. My idea is an App with Blank pages where I can copy things from de board in class, just like a normal printer paper. Thanks again!
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Thanks a lot for your opinion. Just one thing, what is this RainX coating? I'm not sure I´ve understood what it does. About the App, i've been playing with supernote, and it isn't the type of App I was looking for. My idea is an App with Blank pages where I can copy things from de board in class, just like a normal printer paper. Thanks again!
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You can find Rainx in any auto section of any store. It is a wax'ish coating that you apply to glass. ( you can not put it over a screen protector- only use if you don't use a screen protector.) I have been using it for well over a year on a few devices and it works great. really cuts down on fingerprints and makes your stylus smoothly work on the screen,
For your note taking are you looking to draw diagrams along with notes or just notes. If just notes than genial writer is the smoothest note taker. but if you need to draw diagrams etc than some of the others listed. What problems do you have with supernote- maybe we can help.
Thanks for the info. I need to take notes and also draw some circuits and graphs. My problem with Supernote is that I've never used it before =P, but now I think I can make it work for what I want. Thanks!
Skipping is easy to fix with conductive grease (or toothpaste). I just did second test after a few weeks of first applying the toothpaste - I had to replace the toothpaste because it dried out but after that the writing is without skipping and doesn't require any force again. (coductive grease wouldn't require replacing so often).
tonyz3 said:
Edit: I forgot to mention this beta app i just started using- 7Notes handwriting recongnition works great so far- also works with evernote
https://market.android.com/details?....sevenknowledge.sevennotesbetaen&rdot=1&pli=1
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Thanks for recommending this app, absolutely superb. No other app to date can match the accuracy of this app.
HasC said:
Thanks for recommending this app, absolutely superb. No other app to date can match the accuracy of this app.
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Yes I am loving it also. Glad I could help.
tonyz3 said:
You can find Rainx in any auto section of any store. It is a wax'ish coating that you apply to glass.
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It's actually a silicone polymer...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain-X
EDIT: Just to be on-topic - I am still waiting to receive my Estylo .1.1 from Kickstarter (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/plai-tv/estylo-11-magnetic-dual-tip-capacitive-stylus-for). I'll let you know how it turns out!
I use saliva to make the Jot better . I'll possibly come back to add pics of my notes.
I use supernote although it does FC sometimes
7-note is pretty slick if all you are doing is text. Doesn't seem like there is a good way to sketch pictures.
i keep going back to ezpdf for my note taking needs.
I'm liking SuperNote. I'm not sure where it came from. Is it in the ICS rom?
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Hand on touch screen
awesome thread. i was actually looking for something like this but i got other question. when you get the stylus do you have to keep your hand of the touch screen? when you're writing on paper your pen just follow your hand but on touchscreen it might be tricky right?this is software thing for sure. So finally my question can some of the apps you mentioned handle this? That is just recognize the "sharp" stylus and not your "huge" hand?
I used to have trouble with it, but I just write like I would "properly" or as a Chinese calligraphy thingie.
Hand on touch screen
ok never mind. found it. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/writepad-handwriting-optimised-for-stylus-beta-testers-required/
My pen is so far off I can hardly use it. I tried the LCD calibration pen test, but even that's hard to complete because I have to draw beside the boxes, and I am unable to draw near the bottom of the screen at all ..
Did you change your LCD density? Maybe the unit went bad on you. Go to the ATT store and have them look at it.
Idk if this helps but one thing that helped me was when i read that the Spen is setup to work best at a 45 degree angle. I used to use it more at a 90 and the calibration was way off.
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Try *#0*# && s pen test that's the best i got! Lol
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I haven't done anything with the density .. and I've done the pen test several times. If anything, it makes it worse. I can hardly complete the pen test because my pen barely touches the boxes before it physically goes off the bottom of the screen.
it's off by about half a centimeter.. don't really notice until I'm trying to sketch in Sketchbook, which is basically impossible. Maybe I should try a wacom pen and see if that's any better
I just used a straight edge to draw down the very center of the boxes in the pen test.. this is what I got. (and I've tried drawing to the edges several times to auto calibrate it, doesn't seem to help)
Main Frame said:
I just used a straight edge to draw down the very center of the boxes in the pen test.. this is what I got. (and I've tried drawing to the edges several times to auto calibrate it, doesn't seem to help)
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I am going to Home depot today and get some aluminum Tape and try this.
Possible Fix Video for S-Pen
That tape is pricy. Hope you can find a small roll. I wonder how the guy in the vid figured that out. Amazing. Hope it works for you.
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I just used a straight edge to draw down the very center of the boxes in the pen test.. this is what I got. (and I've tried drawing to the edges several times to auto calibrate it, doesn't seem to help)
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When i did ot i just drew in the center of the boxes until all of them are green
&&does the tape still fit in the s pen holder thingy on the phone?
(excuse my poor vocabulary>.<)
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When i did ot i just drew in the center of the boxes until all of them are green
&&does the tape still fit in the s pen holder thingy on the phone?
(excuse my poor vocabulary>.<)
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I think you're missing my point. If I draw in the center of the boxes, the line appears outside the boxes, and they do not turn green. I can draw to the side of the boxes where the line appears in the boxes and they turn green, but this does nothing to help my issue. There is still about a half centimeter difference between where I place the tip of the pen on the screen and where the line appears.
I would like the line on the screen appear directly underneath the tip of the pen, not off to the side.
Also, from that video I don't see anything about the tape addressing my issue. As far as I can tell it just reduces the sensitivity and prevents the pen from working at extreme angles. My issue is with the calibration of the pen..
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That tape is pricy. Hope you can find a small roll. I wonder how the guy in the vid figured that out. Amazing. Hope it works for you.
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It cost me $7 for a roll at HD. I'll let you know after I finish the honey do list for today.
I came over from a galaxy s3 which I actually thought was about the perfect size for a phone. I thought I would try the note 2 out just to see if you know I would be able to use some of the extra features such as the pan and maybe some other things. I'm having trouble with the size. I'm not sure I am going to be able to work with this. The Galaxy s3 I could work 1 handed but I am struggling using the note 2 1 handed.
I am just curious if it is just that I am NOT used to the phone, and I will eventually figure out how to use it 1 handed. Thanks in advance for your kind response is.
Unless your name is Shaq I doubt you will ever be able to one hand this phone.
But even without being able to do full one hand operation, I am betting you will get used to the size. All things take time. Hell there was a time when I was so used to texting on my old Samsung flip phone back in 2005, that the thought of getting a touch screen keyboard based phone was just blasphemy. And of course when I did get my device, a Droid X, I was really turned off from the keyboard. I hated texting on it and it drove me nuts.
Now today, I can't imagine having a flip phone with those ugly T9 keys, or even a slider phone that has so much wasted thickness for a redundant keyboard.
You'll get used to it, sooner or later. But it grows on you.
You have to hold it differently. If your fingers are long enough, their tips can still wrap around the phone while it mostly resting on them, not your palm. This gives your thumb much more mobility. It feels weird at first but isn't uncomfortable. I cannot reach both the status bar and buttons without shifting my grip awkwardly, but I still can do that one handed.
It's been three days and I've already gotten used to it, I can't believe how small my former Razr MAXX feels in comparison. I'm 6'2 and have pretty big hands and I am able to 1 hand it in most cases, but it's more comfortable with 2.
Unless you have really small hands. you will definitely get used to it.
Im going to give it a week....right now I'm missing my sg3
I could drive the crap out of that phone.
I one hand it without a issue I just use my pinky as a rest for the phone and my thumb does all the typing... There was review of some clip type thing that hooks to the back to slide your fingers in perhaps you could use the
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that's what she said.
No problems over here I can use it with one hand too.
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I got use to the size from day one. Only when I have to use my thumb during one hand operation do I realize that I have a big phone.
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I one hand it without a issue I just use my pinky as a rest for the phone and my thumb does all the typing... There was review of some clip type thing that hooks to the back to slide your fingers in perhaps you could use the
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That clip thing is called a fly grip I believe. Qbking77 has a YouTube video reviewing it and I think it looks pretty handy. I'm a 6 foot tall man with big hands and I'm afraid I'm going to drop the phone reaching for the notification bar while the phone is sliding in my hand. I've had a lot of different phones and this one is hands down my favorite but I do have the fear of it sliding out of my hand reaching for the notification bar to the home button (try doing that one handed... you'll see what I mean).
http://goo.gl/BUAu0 fly grip video
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The moment I pulled the note 2 out of the box and put it into my hand for the first time the GS3 was dead to me. I doubt I will ever be able to use a smaller phone without a stylus. I use the stylus nonstop for work and find that I am typically using one hand to hold the phone and the other I have the stylus.
But, I am also 6' 5" and don't really have much issue holding it in one hand and using my thumb to operate it. I usually don't even have issue moving the phone slightly to be able to reach all 4 corners.
Personally when I use my wife's S3 or my old GN after having this phone they seem tiny and I can't even stand using them. People can say what they want but for me a guy with avg size hands I think this phone is perfect. The only Issue I do have is when using my left hand it is a PITA to hit the back button. Samsung should have had the whole area to the right of the home button as a contact area, so that isn't so much a size issue for me but a design issue. Either way I could never go back to a smaller phone now.
The only thing you'll have trouble getting used to are the stares. At the mall.....restaurants especially. I haven't had a quiet meal in the last week. Waitresses and patrons just walk up and say, "That is the biggest phone I have ever seen! What is it? Do you like it.....isn't it TOO big?"
I just tell them the micro radiation is off the charts....so stand back.
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that's not what she said.
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I can one hand this phone and after a week of having mine I have gotten used to the size, it seems normal to me and other phones look extremely small.
Sent from my rooted galaxy note 2... U mad?
I LOL'ed a title
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I one hand it without a issue I just use my pinky as a rest for the phone and my thumb does all the typing...
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I do the same thing. Works like a charm. The only thing I'm still working on is trying to browse the web in bed while holding the phone above me. Feels kinda awkward.
Yeah. Meant for big people I believe. 6 foot 5 1/2 here. Hands huge as people tell me. Just have fun. U will find your own trick in using it.
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Matt ... pm me if you decide to go back to the S3.
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I'm in the process of switching carriers from Sprint to Verizon, and was worried about the size of the Note 2. I was glad to read all of your comments about getting used to it. Thanks! It has helped solidify my decision.