I just rooted my HTC One M8 and I was wondering if I could still flash roms without having s off because my phone has everything required besides the s off portion but I wanted to see if there's a way I can still flash roms because I want to upgrade it to sense 7
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No, you don't have to be s-off, unless you are flashing a custom, non stock rom like cyanogen mod. I assume you are referring to the Skydragon rom which purports to have the new Sense 7 UI when you say you want to flash a rom with sense 7. Personally I would go s-off before doing anything as it makes reverting back to older firmware much easier. Just scan the q&a thread for all the problems people who are s-on have when jumping from kit kat to lollipop or to dev editions, gpe, etc. Trust me, the $25 spent on Sunshine will be worth the time and headaches you'll get when you start getting flash happy, but that's just my opinion.
As mentioned above, you don't "need" to have s-off to flash a ROM, literally anyway. The ROM will flash, and boot (eventually), and mostly work. But if you are currently on KitKat, and try to go to any Lollipop Sense ROM, its very common you will have some serious issues such as extreme long boot times (10 min or more) with no boot animation (making many folks think it isn't booting at all), broken WiFi, and possibly audio issues. All due to outdated firmware (partitions such as hboot, radio, and more that don't flash with the ROM). And s-off is needed to update to Lollipop firmware, until AT&T releases the LP update officially. In that case, you can update to the proper firmware by official OTA or RUU.
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Just got my rezound today, experienced flasher, but with s-off phones.
I have successfully unlocked the bootloader, and rooted the phone and installed the amon-ra custom recovery, from what I've read it seems to be the most popular for this phone, if another one is better please let me know.
But the flashing of custom roms has me a little confused and I couldn't find a good guide to do it, what I want to do is keep my gb bootloader, so I can get s-off when it comes out and install a fairly stock rooted rom based on the ICS OTA with wireless tether capability
Is BAMF Rezound ICS v2.1 Official based on the OTA, I'm not familair with rezound firmware history, if not which are and what steps do I have to take to install it.
I read something about bootloops if you don't install a fix.
Thank you very much for any help you can provide
BAMF ICS 2.1 is a good stable option for a custom ICS rom. Its very stable and fluid and fairly close to stock ICS with Sense 3.6. It has a few tweaks Joel threw it but all the core components are there. As a far as keeping the same bootloader that you mentioned there is a patch in that thread that has to be flashed since you are not gonna be on the lastest HBoot or firmware. Just make sure to flash the kernel since we don't have S-Off.
I guys, I'm an occasional lurker that has a question for all you people that may be able to help. I have a Sprint Evo 4g LTE that has never been flashed and has only had stock updates up until this point. Personally, I liked ICS more and thought it acted faster. I attempted to flash it with a stock ics (the newest ics firmware) and the utility indicated that it was mismatched. I thought I'd ask here before I went on so I don't brick the phone. What I'm wondering is what does it take to get it back to the stock ICS? If I have to go through all the s-off and maybe some hboot stuff, is there a popular ICS firmware that I should use and skip the official?
I read a few results from my searches but I found a lot of questions that included their phone already being rooted and such. I don't really care about the rootage...just looking to get back to ICS.
Thanks in advance.
The only way for you is to root/unlock your phone and flash an ICS rom like mean rom ics which was packed with a lot of features, debloated, great battery life, etc... If you try to RUU back to ICS you might end up with a brick, I advise you against that, be careful and look for bigdaddy619 root guide and if you want the full experience get your phone s-off, of you only do the unlock thru htc dev you will have to flash the rom in a special way because the kernel/boot.img has to be flashed separately, anyways mean rom has this baked in so after you unlock/root and/or get s-off head to the original development thread and look for mean rom ics... Remember that before you do anything you will need to backup your personal stuff because the first step (htcdev.com unlock) deletes everything... Good luck!
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Hi All,
Been an Android guy since the G1, but that was also the last time I had anything HTC. Picked up a One yesterday and I'm so happy to be back.
Did a bunch of reading before getting the phone. I wanted to make sure I didn't do anything irreversible. Before I received the phone, I'd read that you couldn't get S-Off with 1.27.531.11, as they'd patched the HBOOT (even though it's still 1.44.) So once I got the phone and confirmed it was on 1.27.531.11, I performed my first step:
1. Downgraded from 1.27.531.11 to 1.27.531.8.
Next:
2. Unlocked using htcdev
3. Flashed TWRP as recovery
4. Installed Android Revolution HD 4.0 Google Edition
All went smoothly! Because I had no issues with this, I decided it was worth it to push on and get S-Off and SuperCID. I read Vomer's guide many times over, and was about to get rolling with revone, when I found another guide ([GUIDE] PRE-S-OFF - IMPORTANT INFO - Read Before Going To S-OFF Threads!) which contained the following:
You are on or flash a STOCK Sense 5, Android 4.1 ROM! (NOTE: 4.2 Software may be OK however for your best chances use the oldest you possibly can!!
But as a result of #4, I'm now on a GPE 4.3 Rom. This gave me pause.
So, two (and a half!) questions really:
1. Should I flash back to a 4.1 or 4.2 rom prior to trying to get S-Off through revone? If so, what rom should I use? My best guess, if this is necessary is Team Nocturnal's Stock Rooted 1.27.531.8
2. Is there anything else flashing Android Revolution HD 4.0 might have done that would cause problems when trying to use revone to get S-Off? I still have Hboot 1.44, and I don't *think* flashing that rom would have somehow made this the patched version present in 1.27.531.11, but I just want to be sure of what I'm doing. (That question sounds so noobish! But better safe than sorry, I'm thinking.)
Thanks in advance, guys. Really didn't have a great community around my last phone, and I'm psyched to be back amongst a big group of tinkerers.
And from that same guide:
Are not using a GE ROM, 4.3 Rom or on stock 4.3 software
So it definitely seems like I should flash something older first. Just want to confirm what would be best (and make sure there's nothing else I need to do as well prior to using revone.)
All set. S-Off and SuperCID achieved.
For anyone who finds this thread down the road:
As long as you've downgraded to 1.27.531.8, just make sure you're on a 4.2.2 or earlier rom. Multiple reports of revone not working with 4.3 roms. You're on an older rom after doing the downgrade, so if you don't flash anything after that, you're ready to use revone.
Thank you for the info! I had wondered the same thing!
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I got my GS4 back in the summer and I promptly rooted and I believe I even was able to unlock the bootloader. I then flashed Eclipse S4 TW edition (based on MDK) and its been so rock solid I haven't had a reason to touch is since. I'm been staring at my android 4.2.2 version and have been thinking no reason to upgrade. If it isn't broke don't fix it right? Well I'm starting to feel the flashing itch so I decided to jump back on XDA and see whats out there.
I'm trying to get a grasp on what all has changes since the last time I flashed my phone. It looks like there has been a few new builds to drop since I flashed. I'm confused on the details though. With my current state can I flash anything I want using the custom recovery or are there restrictions that I must follow. I have seen posts about using SafeStrap for flashing. I remember SafeStrap from my Razr days as a solution for phones with locked bootloaders. Does one of the OTA's relock the bootloader and make it impossible to unlock or are the SafeStrap posts for people that got the phones after me which already came with a locked bootloader?
Any reason why not to upgrade to the newest builds? I can't find any details on what is different between the builds but I have to imagine there is some new stuff that I might want to play with.
Lastly, can anyone suggest a good solid ROM to similar to Eclipse TW that is based on a newer build?
I appreciate any help you guys can give me. Being away this long and coming back is slightly overwhelming and who has time to navigate through every page of every thread for the past 6 months or so.
I would suggest to read some of the threads....custom Roms for 4.3 and 4.4 are a bit slow in coming. If you are mdk...no need for safestrap....you can still keep your phone rooted and loki'd..and move to 4.3 base
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trevoryour said:
I got my GS4 back in the summer and I promptly rooted and I believe I even was able to unlock the bootloader. I then flashed Eclipse S4 TW edition (based on MDK) and its been so rock solid I haven't had a reason to touch is since. I'm been staring at my android 4.2.2 version and have been thinking no reason to upgrade. If it isn't broke don't fix it right? Well I'm starting to feel the flashing itch so I decided to jump back on XDA and see whats out there.
I'm trying to get a grasp on what all has changes since the last time I flashed my phone. It looks like there has been a few new builds to drop since I flashed. I'm confused on the details though. With my current state can I flash anything I want using the custom recovery or are there restrictions that I must follow. I have seen posts about using SafeStrap for flashing. I remember SafeStrap from my Razr days as a solution for phones with locked bootloaders. Does one of the OTA's relock the bootloader and make it impossible to unlock or are the SafeStrap posts for people that got the phones after me which already came with a locked bootloader?
Any reason why not to upgrade to the newest builds? I can't find any details on what is different between the builds but I have to imagine there is some new stuff that I might want to play with.
Lastly, can anyone suggest a good solid ROM to similar to Eclipse TW that is based on a newer build?
I appreciate any help you guys can give me. Being away this long and coming back is slightly overwhelming and who has time to navigate through every page of every thread for the past 6 months or so.
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Ok, So heres what you missed. After the MDK release they(Verizon/Samsung) patched the loki bootloader hack so thats why anybody whos not on the MDK release has an locked bootloader. That is where safestrap comes in. Safestrap is a custom recovery that was developed by Hascode, in order to provide those with a locked bootloader a way to get in on the rom action, while keeping there stock rom untouched.
Now that said i would advise you to update but not through the stock "Check Update" tab (as that will lock your phones bootloader). Instead you should just flash a rom that is built with the new update as the base (E.X. Hyperdrive 11). This will allow you to get the new update without locking your bootloader.
Now for roms, i believe there is an updated Eclipse TW Rom & Eclipse AOSP ROM on the Dev's site ( dont know the link but will post it once i find it).
I am fairly new to the whole ROM thing on this device. I have experience with older phones and am just getting back into this recently. That being said...
Current state is: Bootloader unlocked, currently running stock 4.4.4, Sense 6.0, Kernel 3.4.0-g931e842, Build 3.42.502.1 CL441323; ROM applied via RUU. (RUU_M8_[email protected]41216A_40.34.C35006.02_F_release_407726_signed_2)
Bottom line is that since I have attempted to root and flash ROMs I have had issues with making and/or receiving calls, or no SIM recognized at all, requiring S-off/firmware upgrades, etc.
I am looking for a stable build ROM which is compatible with the 4.4.4 firmware on my device which can be applied without obtaining s-off. Main goal is to be able to personalize the UI and to run a faster, debloated ROM.
Tried first using Renovate 5.0... could not receive calls on that one.
Removed. back to stock.
Next I found a Lollipop 5.0.1 ROM (HTC_One_M8_Lollipop_5.0.1LRX22C) which did not appear to require firmware updates... seemed to work great... except that I could not receive calls...
Removed... back to stock.
Next, I used ViperOneM8 and really liked it, but had to abandon once I was told by people that they were still getting sent straight to voice mail.
I did get some calls, so I tested having some people call me and it seemed fine... well turned out that during those tests I was on the 3G network... Once again, troubleshot down to the fact that anytime I was on 4G network I could not receive calls. Having had no way to change my network selection in this ROM (error was displayed when I attempted this). Contacted their support to confirm my issue. They are aware, no resolution available.
Removed... back to stock.
So my question is, are there any options OTHER THAN paying $25 to use Sunshine to get S-off, upgrade firmware? I am not a developer and I love my M8. I know there are people here who know exactly what I need and understand what I am looking for. Thanks in advance for any assistance.
GA_Android said:
Next I found a Lollipop 5.0.1 ROM (HTC_One_M8_Lollipop_5.0.1LRX22C) which did not appear to require firmware updates... seemed to work great... except that I could not receive calls...
Removed... back to stock.
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I can't tell what ROM your are talking about based on that description. Possibly GPE stock rooted?
What I can tell you, is that most any Lollipop Sense ROM will have issues when used alongside 4.4.4 firmware.
Sense 4.4.4 ROMs will play well with your firmware, as will a number of 4.4.4 and 5.0 GPE and AOSP ROMs (that specifically state they support 4.4.4 firmware). However, when it comes to AT&T, there is more at play then whether the ROM corresponds to the firmware. That other complication is that AT&T does some annoyingly unique things with their network. In the past, this has included changes to build.prop and even the signal icons, which sometimes caused "international" custom ROMs to have some issues. And now you see that their HD Voice (Voice over LTE) is messing with some custom ROMs. As the other thread you posted in mentioned "blame AT&T".
Running an AT&T base 4.4.4 ROM is your best bet for trouble-free use on AT&T's network. WNC's ROM might fit the bill for what you want (debloated) and is often where I send folks that want a bug-free experience on AT&T (while retaining some AT&T specific features). The 3.28 version ROM is what you should try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
There are other ROMs that might work for you. But the above is my suggestion, at least as a start.
redpoint73 said:
I can't tell what ROM your are talking about based on that description. Possibly GPE stock rooted?
What I can tell you, is that most any Lollipop Sense ROM will have issues when used alongside 4.4.4 firmware.
Sense 4.4.4 ROMs will play well with your firmware, as will a number of 4.4.4 and 5.0 GPE and AOSP ROMs (that specifically state they support 4.4.4 firmware). However, when it comes to AT&T, there is more at play then whether the ROM corresponds to the firmware. That other complication is that AT&T does some annoyingly unique things with their network. In the past, this has included changes to build.prop and even the signal icons, which sometimes caused "international" custom ROMs to have some issues. And now you see that their HD Voice (Voice over LTE) is messing with some custom ROMs. As the other thread you posted in mentioned "blame AT&T".
Running an AT&T base 4.4.4 ROM is your best bet for trouble-free use on AT&T's network. WNC's ROM might fit the bill for what you want (debloated) and is often where I send folks that want a bug-free experience on AT&T (while retaining some AT&T specific features). The 3.28 version ROM is what you should try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
There are other ROMs that might work for you. But the above is my suggestion, at least as a start.
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You are correct. It is a GPE stock rooted Lollipop ROM. It works just fine as long as I have 3G selected as my network, but it is just not as much flash as I wanted.
I am going to give the one you sited here a look and maybe give it a try. I appreciate your taking the time to reply. It was helpful and informative.
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I'm in a similar quandry as the OP. I have lots of experience flashing ROMS on my older phones but trying to keep up with all the changes since getting my M8 has me confused.
Here's my current setup. I'm running Skydragon after trying the last 4.4 milestone of Liquidsmooth. I like both, but am interested in keeping up with the Lollipop guild.
I have Sunshine installed but when I ran it I found out I need to remove or disable Xposed Installer to continue. I'll deal with that by disabling it.
UPDATE: Well, that didn't work. Xposed was installed with the ROM and there's no option to uninstall it.
My biggest concern is updating the firmware. From my bootloader info, I'm assuming that I'm way behind on the latest firmware, but after reading so many threads about updating, my head is swimming.
If I need to update, I just want to make sure that I don't brick my phone.
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I have Sunshine installed but when I ran it I found out I need to remove or disable Xposed Installer to continue. I'll deal with that by disabling it.
UPDATE: Well, that didn't work. Xposed was installed with the ROM and there's no option to uninstall it.
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Return to stock ROM and stock recovery, for optimal configuration for sunshine to work. RUU is probably the easiest way to get back to stock. Backup your personal data, than relock bootloader to run RUU.
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My biggest concern is updating the firmware. From my bootloader info, I'm assuming that I'm way behind on the latest firmware, but after reading so many threads about updating, my head is swimming.
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Yes, based on your hboot number, your firmware is about as old as it gets (Android 4.4.2).
You can RUU to 4.4.4 firmware without s-off; and Lollipop Skydragon GPE should work fine with 4.4.4 firmware.
You can of course still s-off and update to Lollipop firmware. But you need to use some other firmware besides AT&T (such as Dev Edition, Euro, etc.), since they haven't released a Lollipop update (and therefore no firmware).