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Will the AT&T version of the SG2 get rooted? And also be able to get custom ROMs? Just want to be ready when I pick up my SG2 Sunday. Going to sell my Nexus S.
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Anything with running on top of a Linux kernel can be rooted. And being all the sgs2 models were rooted
fairly quickly after they were released i'm sure it won't be long for the ATT sgs2.
Plus the source for the kernel has already been released which will just make it go faster.
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I give it 24 hours after the first one officially leaves the shelves.
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I give it 24 hours after the first one officially leaves the shelves.
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Hopefully we don't run into as many issues as the Epic 4G Touch community. Their root method at the moment involves flashing a pre-rooted kernel. And this kernel randomly causes loss of service for many users. Luckily though they're CDMA and we're GSM. I wouldn't be surprised if we were able to borrow the root method from the I9100.
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Hopefully we don't run into as many issues as the Epic 4G Touch community. Their root method at the moment involves flashing a pre-rooted kernel. And this kernel randomly causes loss of service for many users. Luckily though they're CDMA and we're GSM. I wouldn't be surprised if we were able to borrow the root method from the I9100.
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Being so similar, I'm hoping so too.
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Hopefully we don't run into as many issues as the Epic 4G Touch community. Their root method at the moment involves flashing a pre-rooted kernel. And this kernel randomly causes loss of service for many users. Luckily though they're CDMA and we're GSM. I wouldn't be surprised if we were able to borrow the root method from the I9100.
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They did not have a working source for the e4gt kernel when rooting that last month. From the messages I've seen posted it looks like source for the ATT gs2 has been released which will make things allot easier - as long as it is an actual working source for a stock kernel for the ATT gs2 (fingers crossed)
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kletiz said:
Hopefully we don't run into as many issues as the Epic 4G Touch community. Their root method at the moment involves flashing a pre-rooted kernel. And this kernel randomly causes loss of service for many users. Luckily though they're CDMA and we're GSM. I wouldn't be surprised if we were able to borrow the root method from the I9100.
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We are going to need the same method (flash custom kernel). That's the only way to root the latest version of GingerBread. Hopefully it is done correctly since there are already existing ones from i9100.
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I give it less than that .
Hopefully yes! I'm getting this on Sunday, and want to root it ASAP.
i tried to root it with superoneclick, didnt work
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The only root method I could get to work with the AT&T Galaxy 2 was the kernel method. My AT&T SG2 did work after flashing the non secure kernel and was rooted but I lost my Back, Search and Voice call ability.
Funny, I would think you would lose home and search, considering the international one has a back and menu capacitive buttons but no search button and a physical home...
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AFAIK, if we can get a 1:1 dump of the stock kernel image, we can install the community one, install root, su, busybox, etc... and the flash the stock kernel back to restore lost functionality.
Yeah would be nice to have a one click root and root the SGII while your at the store. and tether your ThinkPad tablet.
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I didn't think rooting like the captivate would work for the SG2..Hopefully their'll be plenty of XDA threads goin on after launch!!!
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Hopefully we don't run into as many issues as the Epic 4G Touch community. Their root method at the moment involves flashing a pre-rooted kernel. And this kernel randomly causes loss of service for many users. Luckily though they're CDMA and we're GSM. I wouldn't be surprised if we were able to borrow the root method from the I9100.
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I don't think that'll happen. A lot of the problems with the E4GT were not due to the device, but due to inexperience and lack of coordination of some of their developers. I can't believe how long it took them to figure out that you could root a /system dump and use that to extract a kernel from a stock device...
I'm still 50/50 on purchasing a device. If I do and alton987 gets the system dump I asked for in his thread, I think I'll be able to get a stock kernel extracted and /system rooted within a few hours of purchasing - again, if I decide to go ahead.
Might wait too... Luckily I'm in my thirty days. I can get it an play with it. I've heard phone call quality isn't as good ( it is a phone after all). That may be my tie breaker to keep my infuse untill the Galaxy 2 HD comes. Call quality was annoying on my captivate.
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Might wait too... Luckily I'm in my thirty days. I can get it an play with it. I've heard phone call quality isn't as good ( it is a phone after all). That may be my tie breaker to keep my infuse untill the Galaxy 2 HD comes. Call quality was annoying on my captivate.
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Call quality is MUCH better than my infuse. People can actually hear me!
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Call quality is MUCH better than my infuse. People can actually hear me!
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I have had some people complain about issues hearing me on the Infuse, although on stock ROMs you could disable Samsung Noise Reduction - there might be some tweaking in Gingerbread in this regard. Most GB kernels don't have the A1026 stuff enabled because:
1) It isn't documented at all
2) Device drivers in the root of menuconfig are scary - implies that they were put into the kernel in a half-assed manner
3) It's such a ***** to test it.
If there were a good way to test call quality with the Infuse I'd work the issue more.
Hi,
I've had android devices for years and always kept them locked and stocked.
I've not got an Nexus 10 and was wondering is it actually worth rooting the thing and loading a custom rom?
Will I actually gain anything except be able to change where the home button is?
All thoughts welcome!
THanks in Advance.
If nothing else I would root it. That gives you the option of using programs like Titanium Backup to backup apps and install a custom recovery and have the ability to back up your whole device.
As far as custom ROMS go that's a personal choice. Right now there are not allot out due to the newness of the device, but I'm sure that will change very quickly as Devs stat getting it.
I would root to gain access to titanium back up and ad blockers but beside that there aren't that many great custom roms out there. Stock doesn't have bloatware or any common pitfalls of stock.
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If you are tech savvy, I would highly suggest all 3. You can improve things like battery life by undervolting the CPU and GPU, changing to more conservative governors, and having applications automatically shut off your wifi when your tablet turns off (can't remember if you can do that one without root).
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Yeah, i agree with above opinion. You need to learn things before rooting your tablet. You can check out many rooting videos on YouTube channel to learn about that more easily. Besides, many Google Play apps are free to play.
Check out qbking77 videos on youtube and you will get a how to on the rooting process
Ad blocking is one of the top ten reasons to own any Android device. Root is a vital part of the XDA experience.
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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KestrelX said:
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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So true, its fun and very addictive flashing different stuff on your device. You can also apply themes after rooting
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I was on the fence until i realized the advantages in battery life. I went ahead and did it and havent looked back yet. :good:
You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
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You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
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There is an app so you can use OTG without having root, called nexus media importer. Though you have to buy it.
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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EvoYas said:
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
I rooted mine to isse adblock and titanim backup, I will not be flashing another ROM in a good while, I want OTA and the tablet runs really well on stock
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Pharmbob said:
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
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There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
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There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
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Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
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How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
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Not the only thing you could do with PA - I have this flashed and LOVE it! this might be more of a personal thing but the ability to change your navbar color (battery, time, soft keys) per app is amazing! Again to each their own but I like this ROM on this tablet - I use the CM10 Nightlies on my phone as it suits it better.
To answer the OP - read as much as you can before you decide to Root and Flash - I believe all three is a must but I like to customize things.
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Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
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Well now that you have root and a custom recovery you should try all the candy in this forum
Go to the nexus 10 rom section and try some roms. There are roms that change a whole lot like ParanoidAndroid and there are roms with more subtle changes (like mine).
Keep in mind that flashing a new rom will wipe anything on your tablet but its ok because you can make nandroid (complete) backups of your present state using the recovery.
Also i recommend you to try apps like GMD gesture control. It enables you to define custom gestures for nearly everything. (Comparable tp those on the ipad but more customizable)
Man just got the s4 and this thing is just fabulous I dont even know if its worth rooting. Can anyone elaborate how much different this device is with a custom rom?
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Better. Root or return. You're on a developer forum.
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Ok will root then good enough lol
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Root it because you may need root access at some point or another
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I'm coming from two "less-than-flagship" phones, the Droid Eris and Droid Incredible 2. Both had shortcomings in the performance department, and were completely neglected for updates (DINC2 is still on Gingerbread.) My main reasons for rooting were:
1. Latest Android features and versions
2. Better performance
3. Removing Verizon apps that I didn't want (NFL mobile, Verizon apps, etc.)
4. Amazing customization opportunity and a variety of rom types to try (AOSP, PA, AOKP, MIUI, etc.)
For the S4 in the week I've owned it, I can cross 1 off the list for sure. Right now this phone is running the latest and greatest version of Android. So upgrading for a newer version is not possible.
Performance would, unfortunately, improve with a custom rom. I say unfortunately because it should be really hard to code a launcher that makes this beast lag. But I've definitely noticed some delay/stuttering while stock. Obviously this thing is lightyears faster than both of my prior smartphones.
Removing apps I don't want and further customizing the phone is a big lure, though. I think I will ultimately root, but I'm waiting to see how the roms and mods evolve. I have to hand it to our devs, though. This thing is attracting a TON of action, and I have no doubts we'll see some great roms.
I hope my experience helps a bit, though it was a bit long.
I rooted for one reason. That being said it was a pretty big reason (for me) and all the other options didn't hurt in making the decision.
The biggest problem I had with the phone was that you are limited to using only certain apps if you want to run multiple apps on the screen at the same time. As far as I know the only way around this is to root it.
If you decide to root don't attempt it 10min before you need to leave for work like I did. I suppose if you've done it before you could run through the process pretty quickly but the first time requires some patient attention to detail and time enough to trouble-shoot unexpected problems. I had to go a day without my phone till I had time to correct my mistakes.
I would do it. I did last night and it was very simple with the all in one tool. If you aren't into crazy modding, theming, and such, im sure there will be several roms that will be directed towards people that want as close to stock as possible without all the bloat and better performance/battery life.
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root pros: custom roms/kernels, remove bloatware, ad blocking.
root cons: no fingerprint, no android pay. (risk of getting very sensitive information compromised)
IFFFFFFFFFF THAT HOLDS TRUE, [VOTE] whether you will root this phone OR not.
Not rooting so many apps like banking ,tv sports etc don't work on rooted devices
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Android Pay isn't a big deal for me.
I have cards, I use them.
I hope we can find a way to get the fingerprint sensor working.
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Not rooting so many apps like banking ,tv sports etc don't work on rooted devices
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Guess I'm lucky, all mine work. I use Sling, BOA, Fidelity, Directv etc without any issues. No clue if the finger print scanner will work or not but hopefully if it doesn't that will get fixed here.
Android pay is a gimmick. I have a wallet everywhere I go, I see no reason to use my phone besides the "its cool" factor.
Didn't know the finger and android pay wouldn't work if you rooted. Guess i'm NOT rooting until there's a workaround.
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Didn't know the finger and android pay wouldn't work if you rooted. Guess i'm NOT rooting until there's a workaround.
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There won't be any workarounds. Google is not kidding about your biometric data and card information.
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As a side question, might anyone know who the developer of the fingerprint scanner is? Although I've a nigh nihilistic attitude about my privacy today I remember reference to information as I find in this article regarding Apple's AuthenTec's ties to the government. I presume the data will be taken while I hope it's used for good.
To the subject—if rooting breaks the fingerprint scanner I don't think I'll care. Banking on my phone? Nope.
Seeing as nobody actually HAS either the 6P or the 5x yet, we don't know for SURE what will break with root and what will not. Thing is, once you have root access, the whole system is open to you, so fixes and patches are possible. Also I remember reading somewhere that there was a way to "cloak" root from the rest of the system, so apps that check for root, don't find it.
I believe the finger print scanner works rooted, android pay is different though, although people claim they have it working with root!
In the UK I don't care as android pay won't be here anytime soon I'm sure haha
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ambervals6 said:
root pros: custom roms/kernels, remove bloatware, ad blocking.
root cons: no fingerprint, no android pay.
keeping that in mind, vote whether you will root this phone or not.
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Where did you see the finger print scanner wouldn't work? I'm pretty sure I read an article stating that it would. I'm bummed about Android pay, but I can live without out.
Root pro with xposed and root clock works for banking apps
Why wouldn't fingerprint scanner not work? This might be different but on the rooted Sprint note 5 it worked fine. Never had a problem with Wells Fargo banking on a rooted device. I'm for rooting.
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well if fingerprint feature is not working then i guess i will just be on stock rom till there are fixes. i really need to root for the freedom for my device =P
Paying with my phone has zero allure for me...there are very few situations where I have my phone but not a credit card and the 0.5 seconds the phone saves means nothing to me. In fact I watched I guy have to tap his iPhone on the pay scanner at least 10 times yesterday at a deli in Manhattan before it took.
The fingerprint scanner...might be a convenience but I don't see all the rooting benefits out weighing not punching in a pin code or pattern on the lock screen.
I would be really surprised if fingerprint scanner did not work on a rooted device. Now AOSP, CM ROMS could be a different story, over on the One Plus 2 forum, you could root the device and use fingerprint scanner. They couldn't on AOSP as they did not have the binaries available to make it work.
Factory images + rooted, should still allow fingerprint access.
Does Android Pay work with an unlocked bootloader, no root?
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I moved to a Nexus for easy rooting. I'll be rooted day 1.
I chose not rooting. I started with a Galaxy S variant and android 2.1 many years ago. Back in those days, I rooted and installed custom recovery. It was necessary, because I had to remove carrier and manufacturer bloatware, run special kernel to apply a lag fix, flash leaks onto my device because official updates were not coming, etc. Using these feature made my phone much more usable, and rooting made a lot of sense.
Those days are long gone now, and with a stock ROM on Nexus 5, I have been pretty much satisfied with my phone since Lollipop came out. Sure I rooted my Nexus at first too, but over time I realized that none of the advanced features were all that important to me. Rooting prevented me from getting OTA updates, and the lack of android pay was the last straw. I unrooted my Nexus 5, and will likely not root the Nexus 6P unless there is some show stopper bug or annoyance that rooting will help me with. Otherwise I will be content to use the phone stock.
It's a Nexus thought it was the law to root and have fun
I think we're all flashaholics on here, that's why we get a Nexus and root/tinker etc. In terms of practical usage, the need to root and install custom Roms these days is virtually zero. Also, the things that don't work when rooted like banking apps, some video services and pay services means it's becoming less attractive.
nexus devices were and still are intended to be used for development. Disabling features because of root doesn't sound like something that google would do, but then again since lollipop their security has been a bit more strict. so unless something is put out publicly we'll just have to wait and see.
I for one will be rooting day one when I get my phone.
If it is disabled, hopefully there will be a work around put out pretty quickly, like a root cloak or something.
I have kept my Note 8 on samfail since its first days. Eventually I have given up hope on any further development or custom firmware options. Now out of frustration I am ready to pull the plug and just go to stock and get OTA updates and be done with it. I used to use root for so many things, mostly blocking ads, using certain apps that needed root, and just to have options and more control over the device that I own. I have stopped looking for anything or trying to stay on top of this device for at least a year, so I dont know what else there is to do with it. Ad blocking these days seems to block everything useful and I would have to whitelist so many things for it and no simple solution like the way it used to be. Now they make rooting impossible and want to charge over a grand for a new smartphone! ugh,end of rant.
Basically my Note 8 is no longer the swiss army knife that previous rooted smartphones have been for me, and I am not using anything currently that need root that i can think of. I dont know if i will ever need root. I have waited this out thinking in the future that I may need to be rooted but I just dont know anymore. Is there any point of keeping this Note 8 rooted anymore? No TWRP, no xposed,no cfw,seems like a waste to me.
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I have kept my Note 8 on samfail since its first days. Eventually I have given up hope on any further development or custom firmware options. Now out of frustration I am ready to pull the plug and just go to stock and get OTA updates and be done with it. I used to use root for so many things, mostly blocking ads, using certain apps that needed root, and.........
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I´m on bootloader v5 so I couldn`t root it but not missing it at all. In this scenario with no development for snapdragon variant no much to play with. You´ll finally lost updates and security patches and the worst of all probably the best android version with pie.
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I´m on bootloader v5 so I couldn`t root it but not missing it at all. In this scenario with no development for snapdragon variant no much to play with. You´ll finally lost updates and security patches and the worst of all probably the best android version with pie.
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I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
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I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
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I am on the same boat. I was waiting for future development, but the lack of it, the 80% battery and so many other things just frustrated the hell out of me. I basically want 3minit battery and Titanium backup in my devices so that when it comes time to twitch devices, I don't have to spend a day or two setting it up app by app. Other than that you are right. Not too many other apps are needed. I switched to a Pixel 3Xl to get unlocked bootloader and root. Now I'm happy with it. Stock Android seems a bit raw and unfinished at first but it does grow on you with time.
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I absolutely feel the pain of the OP. I have a S8+ on SamFail bootloader v1. I recently had the option to buy a Note 8 (bootloader v5) and couldn't decide if I wanted to switch from the semi-root of samfail'd S8+ to a stock Note 8...? Like the OP my main use is AdAway and one or two other apps that require root... I'm not sure what options are available for ad-blocking on non-rooted devices and how well they work? but that's a big one for me.
Sadly for USA variant (bootloader locked) devices the rooting/rom'ing party is over. And unless you want to stay a generation behind buying a international Exynos F model is expensive... (last years models are still expensive but usually about half of whatever the current series is)
I just gave up with root on my Note 8 about 2 weeks ago. Ad blocking is missed dearly. Just like others mentioned here, the gains for ditching root on snapdragon notes seem to be worth it. My root experience on this device just ain't the same as other devices I've rooted. My next note will be an exynos device for sure. If you don't mind setting up each app all over again I think going back to stock is good...as much as I hate to say it and be "regular". The extra 20% battery is noticeable in my daily usage too.
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I just gave up with root on my Note 8 about 2 weeks ago. Ad blocking is missed dearly. Just like others mentioned here, the gains for ditching root on snapdragon notes seem to be worth it. My root experience on this device just ain't the same as other devices I've rooted. My next note will be an exynos device for sure. If you don't mind setting up each app all over again I think going back to stock is good...as much as I hate to say it and be "regular". The extra 20% battery is noticeable in my daily usage too.
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If you're concerned about ads why haven't you tried adhell?
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If you're concerned about ads why haven't you tried adhell?
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Thanks. Didn't know about AdHell. I quickly learned of SABS too. I'll be looking into both very soon.
I have the note 8 but it's strictly for work, I have the 6t for play and honestly it's still stock, except I flashed it with the international rom from TMobiles. I just use adguard which blocks everything you want and it's a yearly subscription that doesn't cost much check it out.
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I have the note 8 but it's strictly for work, I have the 6t for play and honestly it's still stock, except I flashed it with the international rom from TMobiles. I just use adguard which blocks everything you want and it's a yearly subscription that doesn't cost much check it out.
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What does ad blocking apps do? I've had some but when I watch bootleg movies online(lol) I still see ads?
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BTW im a huge Samsung phone fan since epic tough 4g but I have up after note 8....it's just to mind boggling to root Sammy phones if your on T-Mobile like me who don't want to pay for the phone upfront ends up getting the locked boots....anyway I'm on OnePlus 6t converted to international...unlocked my boots flashed twrp flashed magisk flashed a custom kernel and that's it headache free viper4android for louder sound and subs to make the phone look the way I want it to.....
I have to admit I still play around with my note 8 especially after the pie update looks good
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I cant find any apps that need to have root permissions anymore that are useful to me,and now it seems root just breaks apps because of that stupid safety net check.
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I've been thinking for about 2 years now, since the G925V, it is the way in which we root the device that is the problem. Technically speaking, our actual method of perma-rooting a device is about the same as it was 10 years ago. And since CF stopped working on Samsung Devices, it seems no one else will really. I really think that's the problem, no one ever filled the void left by CF quitting Samsung public dev work.
Is Chainfire's way the only way? Or the only way that's really been developed?