Hi,
As mentioned above, there is a problem with my A5. When my tempered glass screen protector is fixed and when my phone is charging, my touch screen seemed to go haywire. I am holding my finger in one place but the phone detected that my finger is shaking, wildly. Besides shaking, my phone will stop sensing my finger even though it is held there.
I doubt it is the problem with my hardware because I have already changed the touch screen, charging port and the motherboard by sending it to the Samsung Service Centre. I believe the problem is due to the tempered glass (my previous tempered glass) because it was put onto another A5 and the same problem occured. Now, I have purchased another tempered glass from REMAX (picture below), and it seemed to cause the same problem again.
So now my questions are
1. Can I seek for another alternative such as Spigen's tempered glass screen protector or should I just use the normal screen protector?
2. Am I the only one facing this problem?
3. Is the problem really due to the tempered glass?
Oh by the way, my phone is running on official rom version 4.4.4.
http://76.my/Malaysia/[email protected]
JssCheonGz said:
Hi,
As mentioned above, there is a problem with my A5. When my tempered glass screen protector is fixed and when my phone is charging, my touch screen seemed to go haywire. I am holding my finger in one place but the phone detected that my finger is shaking, wildly. Besides shaking, my phone will stop sensing my finger even though it is held there.
I doubt it is the problem with my hardware because I have already changed the touch screen, charging port and the motherboard by sending it to the Samsung Service Centre. I believe the problem is due to the tempered glass (my previous tempered glass) because it was put onto another A5 and the same problem occured. Now, I have purchased another tempered glass from REMAX (picture below), and it seemed to cause the same problem again.
So now my questions are
1. Can I seek for another alternative such as Spigen's tempered glass screen protector or should I just use the normal screen protector?
2. Am I the only one facing this problem?
3. Is the problem really due to the tempered glass?
Oh by the way, my phone is running on official rom version 4.4.4.
http://76.my/Malaysia/[email protected]
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Without getting into too much tech details i have a list of possible cause's
1. with having a additional screen cover in place and power connected your body+screenprotector create a capacitor, this is exactly how the screen registers touch , so without the screen protector in place this wont happen. I've seen this on a few Screen protectors that use certain types of conductive glue/bonding agent.
2. faulty charger or fake chargers often cause this behavior, try another charger or use USB on a laptop not plugged into mains power, if the problem is gone then plug in laptop's main power, if problem still gone then your issue is charger, if problem starts when pluging in the laptop's power then it's either ground loop or your screen protector acting as above.
3. faulty assembly when fitting screen, they didnty apply the copper back shield or the protective cloth that act's as a shield around the ribbon cables
before anyone shouts that samsung fixed it, I know and i can quote many a occasion a cell phone was not fixed right first time by the OEM
if you activate developers options and switch on show touches then repeat the test , does the display always show certain areas that register touch , if so it can also show where the bonding agent has a airgap, this adds to the capacitor effect.
finally try wearing shoes when touching the screen, if wearing shoes stops the problem get your house wiring checked.
darkspr1te
gua rasa pasal charger lu tu bro. try tukar charger atau cable lain.
saxmydix said:
gua rasa pasal charger lu tu bro. try tukar charger atau cable lain.
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thanks saxmydix, i used multiple chargers and it is still the same, i tried charging in another house in another area, still the same problem occured, so i doubt it is the problem with my charger.
thank you for your time and i appreaciate it a lot
darkspr1te said:
Without getting into too much tech details i have a list of possible cause's
1. with having a additional screen cover in place and power connected your body+screenprotector create a capacitor, this is exactly how the screen registers touch , so without the screen protector in place this wont happen. I've seen this on a few Screen protectors that use certain types of conductive glue/bonding agent.
2. faulty charger or fake chargers often cause this behavior, try another charger or use USB on a laptop not plugged into mains power, if the problem is gone then plug in laptop's main power, if problem still gone then your issue is charger, if problem starts when pluging in the laptop's power then it's either ground loop or your screen protector acting as above.
3. faulty assembly when fitting screen, they didnty apply the copper back shield or the protective cloth that act's as a shield around the ribbon cables
before anyone shouts that samsung fixed it, I know and i can quote many a occasion a cell phone was not fixed right first time by the OEM
if you activate developers options and switch on show touches then repeat the test , does the display always show certain areas that register touch , if so it can also show where the bonding agent has a airgap, this adds to the capacitor effect.
finally try wearing shoes when touching the screen, if wearing shoes stops the problem get your house wiring checked.
darkspr1te
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hi darkspr1te,
thanks for ur response.
1. so it is entirely dependent on how the screen priotector/tempered glass is sticked to the screen?
2. sorry for not including the details on my charger in my post. i am currently using an official charger that i got when i purchased my previous samsung phone(S2 gt-i9100g). i tried using the A5 charger and the problem persists. will using a powerbank recreate the scenario of the unplugged laptop charging? if it is the same, the problem is still there even when my powerbank is unplugged. i do not have a laptop at home and it wouldnt be possible for me to get my hands on a laptop that i can use these few days. i tried charging my phone in another house (in another region which is like 20 kilometers away) and it is still the same. and my brother's samsung galaxy alpha do not have this problem while charging.
3. so u are saying that the problem might be due to oem? once again i apologize for not including this in the post. while i am at the samsung shop, the person in charge tried putting the tempered glass (which was fixed to my phone) onto another A5 which was there due to a boot loop problem, and it started to have the same problem. is it possible that all Samsung A5's assembly do not have the copper back shield or the protective cloth?
apparently nobody in the samsung shop knows how to deal with my problem because they have never seen it before. it took me quite some time to explain to each person who attempted to serve me and i only managed to show the problem to one of the personnel (which was the one who helped me fix my phone). i went back to the samsung shop 3 times in 2 days. in the 1st time, he changed the touch screen, in the second time, he changed the charging port and in the third time, he changed the motherboard.
as for the test, i turned on the pointer location and i keyed in *#7353#, and i selected TSP grid mode. that is how i checked the problem. and while i was there, the shaking only occurs at where my fingers are. i tried enabling the show touches option and the display do not register touches until i touched them.
i doubt it the the problem with my house wiring since it is the same with my other house but thanks for the suggestion. i will definitely try wearing shoes when i am at a different house. maybe both my house got wiring problem.
i learnt a lot from your post. thanks for your time and i hope to hear from u soon
JssCheonGz said:
hi darkspr1te,
thanks for ur response.
1. so it is entirely dependent on how the screen priotector/tempered glass is sticked to the screen?
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It wont be 100% of the cause but will affect performance of the screen.
2. sorry for not including the details on my charger in my post. i am currently using an official charger that i got when i purchased my previous samsung phone(S2 gt-i9100g). i tried using the A5 charger and the problem persists. will using a powerbank recreate the scenario of the unplugged laptop charging? if it is the same, the problem is still there even when my powerbank is unplugged. i do not have a laptop at home and it wouldnt be possible for me to get my hands on a laptop that i can use these few days. i tried charging my phone in another house (in another region which is like 20 kilometers away) and it is still the same. and my brother's samsung galaxy alpha do not have this problem while charging.
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Yes, using a non-mains connected charger will be sufficient for the test, like your power bank for example
3. so u are saying that the problem might be due to oem? once again i apologize for not including this in the post. while i am at the samsung shop, the person in charge tried putting the tempered glass (which was fixed to my phone) onto another A5 which was there due to a boot loop problem, and it started to have the same problem. is it possible that all Samsung A5's assembly do not have the copper back shield or the protective cloth?
apparently nobody in the samsung shop knows how to deal with my problem because they have never seen it before. it took me quite some time to explain to each person who attempted to serve me and i only managed to show the problem to one of the personnel (which was the one who helped me fix my phone). i went back to the samsung shop 3 times in 2 days. in the 1st time, he changed the touch screen, in the second time, he changed the charging port and in the third time, he changed the motherboard.
as for the test, i turned on the pointer location and i keyed in *#7353#, and i selected TSP grid mode. that is how i checked the problem. and while i was there, the shaking only occurs at where my fingers are. i tried enabling the show touches option and the display do not register touches until i touched them.
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Yes,
Galaxy Alpha Images
Note on images 4 and 5 you will see the copper shield, this model does not have the conductive cloth I mentioned but the copper ground plane can clearly be seen on both the body and screen. Fake and non oem parts tend not to have this, in the body there is also a copper area which can be removed by mistake on replacement of the screen.
this is not often found in the replacement screen kit.
i doubt it the the problem with my house wiring since it is the same with my other house but thanks for the suggestion. i will definitely try wearing shoes when i am at a different house. maybe both my house got wiring problem.
i learnt a lot from your post. thanks for your time and i hope to hear from u soon
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if it's happening at another location then you can discount this theory.
I am still leaning towards incorrect parts or assembly as this is the cause I personally see most often and i've repaired a LOT of damaged phones. As you have stated you have more or less a complete new phone if they replaced screen+motherboard.
I once repaired a phone that had been back to the OEM service center, cause of fault was copper strip from old screen touching the board, the copper slip was so small i only noticed it when it sparkled under the right light, it's mistakes like that is what I am talking about, easily missed by many.
darkspr1te
how do i check if my phone has the copper strip or not?
i am going to bring my phone to the samsung store tomorrow and hope for some answers regarding the copper strip. thanks darkspr1te
how do i check if my phone has the copper strip or not?
i am going to bring my phone to the samsung store tomorrow and hope for some answers regarding the copper strip. thanks darkspr1te
darkspr1te said:
It wont be 100% of the cause but will affect performance of the screen.
Yes, using a non-mains connected charger will be sufficient for the test, like your power bank for example
Yes,
Galaxy Alpha Images
Note on images 4 and 5 you will see the copper shield, this model does not have the conductive cloth I mentioned but the copper ground plane can clearly be seen on both the body and screen. Fake and non oem parts tend not to have this, in the body there is also a copper area which can be removed by mistake on replacement of the screen.
this is not often found in the replacement screen kit.
if it's happening at another location then you can discount this theory.
I am still leaning towards incorrect parts or assembly as this is the cause I personally see most often and i've repaired a LOT of damaged phones. As you have stated you have more or less a complete new phone if they replaced screen+motherboard.
I once repaired a phone that had been back to the OEM service center, cause of fault was copper strip from old screen touching the board, the copper slip was so small i only noticed it when it sparkled under the right light, it's mistakes like that is what I am talking about, easily missed by many.
darkspr1te
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how do i check if my phone has the copper strip or not?
i am going to bring my phone to the samsung store tomorrow and hope for some answers regarding the copper strip. thanks darkspr1te
JssCheonGz said:
how do i check if my phone has the copper strip or not?
i am going to bring my phone to the samsung store tomorrow and hope for some answers regarding the copper strip. thanks darkspr1te
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Sadly that can only be done by removing the screen. I dont suggest you try, ive seen the disassembly video, it's tough, one time job and if it goes wrong it's bye bye screen.
darkspr1te
darkspr1te said:
Sadly that can only be done by removing the screen. I dont suggest you try, ive seen the disassembly video, it's tough, one time job and if it goes wrong it's bye bye screen.
darkspr1te
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I sent in my phone to the samsung store to check the charging port (which is also making some problems), and i requested them to check the copper shield.
while i was there, i realised there is another phone which has the same problem as me. could it be that all the A5 model has the same problem ? :/
JssCheonGz said:
I sent in my phone to the samsung store to check the charging port (which is also making some problems), and i requested them to check the copper shield.
while i was there, i realised there is another phone which has the same problem as me. could it be that all the A5 model has the same problem ? :/
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I don't think it's the phone model, we would see more reports if it was, I would enquire if the other unit also had screen changed. If it has then one might assume pirate parts, no way to prove that without checking back of lcd for the oem barcode sticker. The is on possibility I only just thought of, a while back I had a client bring me a i9505 that the oem changed screen on, I just reread the emails between us and the fix was replacing the screen with a i9505 screen, the oem locally only supplies i9500 devices so they only fitted a i9500 screen, turns out there is a difference in the touch chip, I was able to prove this by attaching the touch only circuit from his old screen. No more random touches.
From this I can assume the various SM-A500 models use different touch chips. Or slightly different firmware in the chip, I have seen that before on the rock chip based tablets I support here.
Darkspr1te
darkspr1te said:
I don't think it's the phone model, we would see more reports if it was, I would enquire if the other unit also had screen changed. If it has then one might assume pirate parts, no way to prove that without checking back of lcd for the oem barcode sticker. The is on possibility I only just thought of, a while back I had a client bring me a i9505 that the oem changed screen on, I just reread the emails between us and the fix was replacing the screen with a i9505 screen, the oem locally only supplies i9500 devices so they only fitted a i9500 screen, turns out there is a difference in the touch chip, I was able to prove this by attaching the touch only circuit from his old screen. No more random touches.
From this I can assume the various SM-A500 models use different touch chips. Or slightly different firmware in the chip, I have seen that before on the rock chip based tablets I support here.
Darkspr1te
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this is getting a little too complex for me to understand, let alone explaining it to the samsung guy. are u trying to say touchscreens from different variants of A5, such as SM-A500G is being fitted into my SM-A500F?
JssCheonGz said:
this is getting a little too complex for me to understand, let alone explaining it to the samsung guy. are u trying to say touchscreens from different variants of A5, such as SM-A500G is being fitted into my SM-A500F?
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Yes, that's exactly what I am saying. Although it's only a theory based on prior solutions, I dont have any proof to hand other than my experience.
darkspr1te
Battery issue
My galaxy A5 have some battery issue. It won't charge after 88%,and didn't turn off after 2%. The phone is turn on over night at 2%..please help me regarding this issue.
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Well I did it... Broke the screen a couple of weekends ago. Ordered and received a new one. (No problem and not too bad price-wise) Then I ordered the correct screwdriver. That came in yesterday and I followed a couple of tutorials online to take the thing apart. Not too bad despite the teeny-tiny parts. I got it back together and lo-it worked! Actually it took a couple of tries and I reflashed it but then it booted right up. All the apps seemed responsive and life was good once again...
Until I tried to make a call. Then the screen went dark and it appeared that the phone froze up. Called myself from the house phone and discovered that the Aria was dialing, connecting, and sending voice but that I couldn't hear anything on the Aria.
Disassembled, re-set the earpiece, reassembled, called myself again, and I could hear. The screen came on and stayed on, but the touchscreen would not function.
Disassembled, checked all the connections, and reassembled again. The phone appears to work correctly in all aspects until I try to make or receive calls. At that point the screen shuts down and the only way to disconnect a call (or get the screen back) is to pull the battery and reboot.
I tried reflashing the ROM and that didn't work. I'm afraid the transceiver is shorting the screen out somehow but have reached the limits of my expertise.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Jerry
I have never had to replace my digitizer so only speaking from what i have read but it sounds like the very small rubber piece that covers the proximity sensor. I have read that if missing or not placed correctly people have had the same problem as you. Just my thoughts
I've replaced my digitizer and I have had the exact same problem. E.Cardo is correct, it is the small rubber piece on the proximity sensor not positioned correctly or not present at all.
Thanks to both of you. The proximity sensor is supposed to be right behind the ATT logo, correct?
I can't wait to get home and try this. I really don't like the backup Cliq Xt... I'll post once I've messed with it.
gdgeorge said:
The proximity sensor is supposed to be right behind the ATT logo, correct?
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It's hard to see them exactly so I took a picture to show exactly where they are:
http://imgur.com/a/36h8t#ayQhv
It's actually just above the & in the at&t logo, although if you have a replacement digitizer, it might not have the at&t logo on it. If you have trouble seeing it, try looking at it in the sunlight.
To add to what drumist said there as small black rubber piece that goes around the proximity sensor that prevents light seepage and allot of people discard it by mistake when disassembling the phone.
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Why did you have to reflash? The new screen didn't worked?.
My aria's screen is broken too. I boutgh a new one but It doesn't work. Do you resolve this reflashing? (that's mean applying the new rom version from ATT)
Thanks for your response.
javierarenas said:
Why did you have to reflash? The new screen didn't worked?.
My aria's screen is broken too. I boutgh a new one but It doesn't work. Do you resolve this reflashing? (that's mean applying the new rom version from ATT)
Thanks for your response.
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The screen or digitizer are hardware they should have nothing to do with the rom. The op only tried flashing the phone to illuminate it is a possible source of the problem. It sounds like you did not install the new screen or digitizer correctly you may need to disassemble and make sure everything is connected correctly and securely. Flashing your phone will most likely not correct your problem.
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Maybe, just maybe, there are new drivers for the touchscreen included in the rom. I am using cyanogen 7.0.3 without problems, and it works nice with the old screen.
Or the new screen is defective.
I am pretty sure I installed correctly the new screen. Of course the old one is working fine right now.
I requested a new screen so I will wait...
Thanks again.
Hi guys,
Going to pick my Mum`s phone up from Vodafone today after it was placed in for repair and they stated it`ll be £150 to repair. She took it in as the phone started to bootloop, Samsung screen the reboot. She took it into Vodafone and they sent it off, the answer back was that the "chip behind the screen" was damaged and that was her fault and would cost £150 to repair.
Couple of question, what is the "chip behind the screen"?
If the chip is there what does it do and would it stop the phone from booting?
Is it repairable and if so could it be done at home cheaper?
Should I try a Samsung Service Center instead?
She said that she was having issues with the phone before it died, sluggishness, unresponsiveness and random reboots, then dead.
Cheers in advance guys,
Blinky
"Chip behind the screen" doesn't really mean much. I would ask them to be explicit. Since the screen covers 90% of the front of the phone, almost all the chips the phone has are behind the screen.
Sorry, I have just been informed that she was told it was the chip that controls the LCD screen? I would presume that if the touchscreen chip is dead then the phone would boot to the OS and you wouldn`t be able to control it and if the chip was good and the screen was knackered then you would not see the screen come on.
If the phone is stuck in a bootloop then wouldn`t that be a system board problem?
cheers
Blinky
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Blinkydamo said:
Sorry, I have just been informed that she was told it was the chip that controls the LCD screen? I would presume that if the touchscreen chip is dead then the phone would boot to the OS and you wouldn`t be able to control it and if the chip was good and the screen was knackered then you would not see the screen come on.
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Well hang on.....
Its an SAMOLED not LCD, but thats not the main thing I need to identify here. Just FYI, the SAMOLED screen (Display Panel) and the touchscreen, although on this phone, mostly provided in a single unit - are actually 2 individual parts. You do not touch the display panel to get touch input.
Essentially from the outside in, you have:
1) Gorilla glass tough glass protector
2) Digitiser film (to translate electrical disturbances into input)
3) SAMOLED Panel (Display)
I don't really understand what chips control what so what VF are saying still seems ambiguous to me.
But a hardware failure could be picked up by the kernel drivers at boot. The kernel would see an error and a boot loop could ensue, definitely. It just depends on the fault.
So dropped phone and screen went out. Replaced amoled and digitizer, device powered on and lit up home keys, but no display still. Replaced main board, in case video was out on board, but no joy. Any thoughts? No custom software or anything....
Maybe you didn't clip on the ribbon cables all the way. Or, just try pulling the battery and booting it again.
When I replace my screen, screen didn't work for first few boots.
ddochi11 said:
Maybe you didn't clip on the ribbon cables all the way. Or, just try pulling the battery and booting it again.
When I replace my screen, screen didn't work for first few boots.
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I checked and checked, digitizer works, I can reboot and swipe unlock, adjust volume, but no screen. At this point I'm thinking bad LCD. Thoughts?
Thx for response and ideas though....
I bought a replacement but ut was a cheap fake, not an OEM screen. It went purple then black within 10 minutes. I got my money back (thank you PayPal) and made sure the next one was an OEM screen.
I hope you didn't spend too much on the repair parts. You can pick up a new Note for about $290 now.
One morning I woke up and the bottom half of my Samsung galaxy avant (SM-G386T) had a grid of white lines going across it. First time I restarted my phone it went away.
But they keep coming back and now it's more permanent, Sometimes it goes away briefly but they come back. I tried factory resetting. That worked the first time for a few hours but then it came back. and I tried it again and 2nd time there white lines where there during the factory reset.
The lines even show when I turn the phone off and charge the phone. So I believe this means it is w hardware issue
I tried taking the back planel of the phone off. I disconnected and reconnected the lcd connector latch on the left side. But the problem still persists. I haven't pulled up the screen with a suction cup. So Idk if there is a cable that could be loose on the front end or not. But Idk want to go buy suctions cup if I dont need to you.
Should note that I do have a good sturdy rubber case on my phone. but it has hit the floor a few good times.
One other thing that seems to aggravate or sometimes even make the lines go away is putting my phone to sleep and waking it up repeatedly or adjusting my brightness to max.
What do you guys think? is this fixable or do I need to replace the lcd screen.
man its simple
just press the wires of display which are providing it power & ur problem will be gone.
Its due to lack of sufficient current to display!!
Rustamveer said:
man its simple
just press the wires of display which are providing it power & ur problem will be gone.
Its due to lack of sufficient current to display!!
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What wires are you speaking of exactly. cause like I said I have taken the back off and disconnected and reconnected the LCD flex cable but nothing changed. Are there wires behind the LCD I need to get to? which means I need to removed the screen with a suction cup?
Just got a new Tab S7+, and I found that I was getting a heck of lot of repeating keys from the Samsung keyboard and the Gboard keyboard. Hadn't noticed any problems elsewhere.
I finally got fed up with it and get Touch Screen Test, and I can see clearly there that the screen is registering a touch with my finger maybe 0.5mm away from it. That fits with what I see on the keyboard, where I can get keys to fire with tiny finger movements just away from the screen.
I can't find any settings in Android 10 to adjust this. It's surprising for a table that's been out of the box a couple of weeks, and possibly it's worsening.
I had an idea after I'd posted this - I often use the tablet connected to the 25W charger that came with it. If I use it on battery, the problem is much diminished , and possibly gone. Electrical interference, then???
Is it a return-as-faulty, would you say? Any test options I can use to help with this?
Thanks
Alan
Latest update fix that issues
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Latest update fix that issues
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Many thanks for that. My tablet has T970XXU1AT12 / T9700XM1AT12, no update showing as of a moment ago. I expect it will reach the UK soon and I will be able type!!
I think the touchscreen of this tablet does have some interesting behaviors, as I've also observed some touches being registered when my finger was a still a short distance away. I suspect this might have something to do with palm-related gestures (like palm swipe from right to left for screenshooting).
I play rhythm games on this tablet mostly, and I'm seeing some cases of taps not being registered properly (unexpected misses), which happened less often, when I was playing those same games on my phone (before migrating them to the tablet).
I don't constantly put the tablet on the charger, as I've lessons learned from my previous tablet, Pixel C, whose battery went swollen after having placed it constantly on the charger for quite a long while that I ended up replacing the swollen battery with a new one by myself. While it was a lot of effort in overall, but the swollen battery had made the glues between the screen and the chassis mostly visible, that removing the screen became much easier.
I couldn't confirm this issue.
I've installed a safety glas on top of the screen. Fingerprint and S Pen is working but I've no issue's with a to sensitive Display
Update came yesterday. Still not fixed
I'm also using a tempered glass screen protector and my personal experience with such protectors on different devices has always been positive, with few issues directly related to such protectors as long as the quality appears to be good enough. I don't connect the charger while gaming, but I do attach a Type-c audio cable for connecting the tablet to desktop speakers.
On the other hand, some lower quality charging cables would certainly cause issues with touchscreens regardless of device. Usually with stock chargers and cables (or those from very reputable vendors) you can mostly rule out this possibility.
EDIT 6: Moved the rest of the issues I'm having to a separate thread.