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when will a working root be available for the MetroPCS Samsung Admire R720? We are desperate here :/
itsmigsz said:
when will a working root be available for the MetroPCS Samsung Admire R720? We are desperate here :/
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how can you be desperate? you posted a day ago. i want a root myself, but take a breath and give the guys with the programming skills the time to do their magic!
that being said, i'd appreciate one myself.
I am also dying for root on this phone. It has been 2 weeks for me and nothing. The phone is slowing down a bi due to all the metro crapware installed that I cant get rid off without root.
Programmerrrrrsssssssss, we neeeeeedddd ROOT on the Admire please!!!
I have to admit that i'm looking forward to one too. I'm sick of all the bloatware they load that turns itself on when you have no need of it.
Right now, after using Advanced Task Killer and then checking 1 hour later with no actual use on the phone, there is "voice search", "Visual Voice Mail" and "myMetro" that are all running and unkillable.
androidinvasion.us/forum/index.php/topic,16.0.html <<< Posts methods, tests ran and pasties here
webchat.fossnet.info/channel/admire/file/index.html <<< Join Chat for discussion and help with active devs working on this root
please post here methods and tests that you have run. pasties from cmd prompt so we dont double up on steps.
this will be closely moderated and updated frequently. stay tuned, register and post please. lets work together
samsung admire root question
I did the root on the phone it said congrats blah blah blah. When i opened root manager it says i have to have clockwork mod recovery installed when i try that it pops up a list with phones ofcourse the admire is not on it yet. is there another way to back up my current rom? Sorry for the noob questions
KB0SDQ said:
I did the root on the phone it said congrats blah blah blah. When i opened root manager it says i have to have clockwork mod recovery installed when i try that it pops up a list with phones ofcourse the admire is not on it yet. is there another way to back up my current rom? Sorry for the noob questions
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Titanium backup is your next best bet... saves all apks you want even the data and the system apparently... hope I helped
Sent from my SCH-R720 using xda premium
yes you have I just purchased the titanium backup and works well also was able to uninstall some of the bloatware and freeze the rest. this board rocks. Glad i was able to join.
Doug
Samsung Admire (rooted)
Metropcs
KB0SDQ said:
yes you have I just purchased the titanium backup and works well also was able to uninstall some of the bloatware and freeze the rest. this board rocks. Glad i was able to join.
Doug
Samsung Admire (rooted)
Metropcs
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Glad it worked nomore metro crap hogging memory also try setcpu it. Can open the true speed of your phone without alot of battery drain or you can set it to help extend your battery that's what I have on my rooted admire I have running smooth with 10hrs of heavy texting emailing and YouTubing
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One Click Root for SCH-R720
So no one bricks their phones... Many of these are self-explanatory and you can figure most out from the icons, but better safe than sorry.
These are located in /system/app so don't go deleting things you're unsure of.
Easy-WiFi-android-4.0.136.apk - MetroPCS Easy WiFi
(You could leave this intact as it circumvents the login procedure at SOME public hotspots (such as Starbucks))
Metro411_V1.0.7.1_02042011.apk - Metro411
metroappstore1.5.apk - Metro App Store
(You may want to leave this if you want to rebloat your phone, but otherwise useless)
MetroBackup_1.70.apk - Metro BackUp
(We have droids, our contacts are safe with the benevolent Google, as long as your account is set up)
MetroPCS_Visual_Voice_Mail_3_14_04.apk - Visual Voice Mail
MetroSTUDIO_v1.00.30_Build30_03302011.apk - MetroStudio
MyExtras.apk - My Extras
(They're extra annoying)
MyMetro.apk
(May consider leaving as it allows you to view account info, but can be removed)
Samsung_R720_IMandSocial_V4.0.8_build0203.apk - IM and Social
(AIM, Facebook, Twitter, crap like that)
SamsungR720_MetroNavigator_4.9.1_Build_86_04252011 _rel_signed_PROD.apk - MetroNavigator
(We have Navigation for this)
ThinkFree.apk - ThinkFree Office
(May be useful to some people)
z7-android2x.apk - [email protected]
(Not necessary unless you don't use Gmail)
Hope this helps!
One Click Root for SCH-R720 Google
Superuser.apk
next Market Titanium Backup
Done !!!
So, I've rooted my Admire, but there are still apps I can't get rid of. I installed SSHDroid, and even that won't let me delete files. I can't freeze them either, with Titanium Backup (Wishing I would have saved the cash). Everything says its running as root, but there's obviously some problem. Is anyone else experiencing this?
edsfunsite said:
So, I've rooted my Admire, but there are still apps I can't get rid of. I installed SSHDroid, and even that won't let me delete files. I can't freeze them either, with Titanium Backup (Wishing I would have saved the cash). Everything says its running as root, but there's obviously some problem. Is anyone else experiencing this?
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Install superuser and give root only apps access
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itsmigsz said:
when will a working root be available for the MetroPCS Samsung Admire R720? We are desperate here :/
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Hope you all arent still looking Im ROOTED
jaybuzz said:
Hope you all arent still looking Im ROOTED
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Which site did you use to download the root program? I'm still trying to figure out how to room my Admire Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Josh
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Hey Everyone,
I live in Sacramento CA and was told we have 3G here, but I've had my Admire since since Friday and still haven't seen a 3G on my phone.. Not even once! Is there something I need to do or download to make this happen? I tried taking out the battery and then calling *228 option 5 to update the prl, but still my phone is at 3019. My friend has had her Admire since Oct and today had our phones right next to eachother. She had 3G and I still have my 1X! The city we were in isn't even suppose to have 3G yet, and yet she had it! What is wrong with my phone??
Also I'm trying to root my phone, but I have no idea which site I should use to download the root.. I already have titanium backup (free version) and as soon as I'm rooted I will download the PRO.
Any help would be very very appreciated!!
Thank you!
Josh
OK, so Im reading this thread about the metro pcs samsung admire, I have the gingerbread 2,3,4.. Im looking for a root or a how to root this phone but this thread seems not to have the answer. Anyone please help.
still confused
so how do i root my android admire, i know this is a noobish question , but i am very confused and need help plz
BoiPhresh said:
Glad it worked nomore metro crap hogging memory also try setcpu it. Can open the true speed of your phone without alot of battery drain or you can set it to help extend your battery that's what I have on my rooted admire I have running smooth with 10hrs of heavy texting emailing and YouTubing
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Can you please post some screen shots or help us out with some voltages? over clocking mhz? governor, scheduler settings please??
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plagiatstudio said:
So no one bricks their phones... Many of these are self-explanatory and you can figure most out from the icons, but better safe than sorry.
These are located in /system/app so don't go deleting things you're unsure of.
Easy-WiFi-android-4.0.136.apk - MetroPCS Easy WiFi
(You could leave this intact as it circumvents the login procedure at SOME public hotspots (such as Starbucks))
Metro411_V1.0.7.1_02042011.apk - Metro411
metroappstore1.5.apk - Metro App Store
(You may want to leave this if you want to rebloat your phone, but otherwise useless)
MetroBackup_1.70.apk - Metro BackUp
(We have droids, our contacts are safe with the benevolent Google, as long as your account is set up)
MetroPCS_Visual_Voice_Mail_3_14_04.apk - Visual Voice Mail
MetroSTUDIO_v1.00.30_Build30_03302011.apk - MetroStudio
MyExtras.apk - My Extras
(They're extra annoying)
MyMetro.apk
(May consider leaving as it allows you to view account info, but can be removed)
Samsung_R720_IMandSocial_V4.0.8_build0203.apk - IM and Social
(AIM, Facebook, Twitter, crap like that)
SamsungR720_MetroNavigator_4.9.1_Build_86_04252011 _rel_signed_PROD.apk - MetroNavigator
(We have Navigation for this)
ThinkFree.apk - ThinkFree Office
(May be useful to some people)
z7-android2x.apk - [email protected]
(Not necessary unless you don't use Gmail)
Hope this helps!
One Click Root for SCH-R720 Google
Superuser.apk
next Market Titanium Backup
Done !!!
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Where do we find the version that we need for clockwork mod?? and do you know of any roms that we can install?? cm 10??
You can have clockwork I have 5.0.2.8 and there's hella roms too go on android forums or abcindicate
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Have a rooted Thunderbolt. Am trying to install an app approved by my employer to access email, calendar, and contacts from my phone instead of using my employer issued blackberry. I'm all approved but ran into a snag.
It locked the application because my phone is rooted.
None of the pre-requisites mention it not being allowed on a rooted phone, but that's beside the point. Is there a way to make the app think it's not rooted? I'd rather carry my Blackberry around as a seoncd phone, as awful as it is, than unroot my phone and go back to a stock rom.
Didn't see anything when searching...please help!
Thunderbolt running DasBAMF Forever 1.0.7, imoseyons 3.8 lean kernal
What email client are you trying to set up? I have read a few threads about people having issues with corporate email accounts on rooted phones. I do not think I've ever read a solution that worked either. Do some searches for Corporate Email with root on the normal forums we all browse and I'm sure you will see the number of people asking to accomplish this is significant.
It's a client called "Good". It basically encapsulates all company information (email, contacts, calendars) encrypted within the application. Also allows the IT department to wipe the data remotely without wiping your phone. Company I work for is a huge company "300k plus) and has always been BlackBerry only. They're just now rolling this out to android and iphone...but the "Rooted?" criteria is messing me up.
I'll keep searching, but have had little luck so far.
Just unroot if it is a work phone, why take chances.
If I helped you in any way please use the thank you button
The first time you launched it, did it request superuser permissions ? If so, and you said "allow", it knows you're phone is rooted by the exit code it got back from the 'su' app. If that happens, try this:
- in your app drawer, find the program "Superuser" and launch it.
- scroll through list to find "Good", then tap it
- depending on your version of SU you might have different options to choose here
- tap the 'trashcan' icon
- exit Superuser app and try your "Good" app again
If that doesn't work, try this:
- uninstall app
- reinstall app
- launch app
- DENY access to superuser rights when prompted
If it's determining it has root access another way, I can't help...
Grnlantern79 said:
Just unroot if it is a work phone, why take chances.
If I helped you in any way please use the thank you button
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It's not a work phone...it's my personal phone. The whole idea is you turn in your BlackBerry and then they give you a $25/mo allowance toward your personal cell bill, then you can still access all the stuff you need from work.
FWIW, I searched the forum (all devices) for "Good for Enterprise" and hit the jackpot. Guess it's all about phrasing it right. Here's an example of one of the helpful links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032268
So, once i have a custom ROM, is there a way to re-root but keep the ROM? Would I lose access to CWM (for nandroid backups)? I assume I'd lose titanium backup and wireless tether...tough choices. I haven't lived without root in so long that I don't know if I can do it...
Hehe, interesting...
Good for Enterprise on rooted phones
Have fun reading !! I haven't checked any of those results yet myself.
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Based on the first link I checked from ^^ above ^^, it doesn't base it on how you respond to Superuser, it simply looks for the existence of su.apk, superuser.apk, etc. If it finds them, it stops. And no, renaming those files, then running it won't work either as it checks every time it's run !!
One alternative is:
Create a script file that a) renames the relevant superuser files, b) launches "Good", and finally, when "Good" exits, c) renames the superuser files back to their original names.
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Recent update to this app, according to "What's New" page in the Market (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.good.android.gfe&hl=en): Security Enhancements: Better detection of rooted devices to protect your information​ You may be fighting a losing battle on this one. Even if you figure a way around it, rest assured that the developers of the app browse Android forums seeing how people are NOW getting around their detection routines and will defeat those next.
Of course, it's POSSIBLE that turning this detection on is an admin-level setting that you could ask the IT folks to turn off. It sounds like it's phone-level though, unless on launch, it first queries it's back-end server and then does the relevant checks on the phone side.
It checks every time it's launched, and can be checked at any time. Sucks.
To be honest, I don't blame them for blocking rooted phones...as sensitive as the information is that will be in the app, I'd probably do it too. I just don't want to give up my custom ROM, wireless tether and titanium backup
Would deleting su and superuser.apk have any negative effects (other than disallowing rooted apps)? From what i can tell, those are what Good uses to check for root. Removing them would effectively remove root, so I would be in compliance. And in theory, i could just restore from a rooted nandroid backup to get root back, right?
Try ota rootkeeper app..its free in the market
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bigcez74 said:
Try ota rootkeeper app..its free in the market
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This was the closest yet...fantastic app. It does successfully remove su and temporarily removes root. However, it looks like GFE also checks for existence of hte superuser.apk. I've messaged the dev to see if there's a way to hide that, but considering that's what's used to root and unroot at will, not sure how that'd work. Hopefully the dev is smarter than me and can figure something out! But very close.
is that the only app that will work for checking your email? could you just add a new exchange activesync account and configure it properly?
just a thought...
brad r said:
is that the only app that will work for checking your email? could you just add a new exchange activesync account and configure it properly?
just a thought...
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I wish. This is the only way they allow due to the extra encryption and ability to remotely wipe data.
Two Words: Dual Boot.
Get your regular "At home" rooted rom all nice and prettied up, then when you get in the car for work, boot into a stock rom that isn't rooted for work specifically.
Guide: http://lifehacker.com/5826050/how-to-dual-boot-multiple-roms-on-your-android-phone
Potential Fix
TUDrewser said:
This was the closest yet...fantastic app. It does successfully remove su and temporarily removes root. However, it looks like GFE also checks for existence of hte superuser.apk. I've messaged the dev to see if there's a way to hide that, but considering that's what's used to root and unroot at will, not sure how that'd work. Hopefully the dev is smarter than me and can figure something out! But very close.
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Try this:
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.phantasm.xposed.gfesecuritypatcher
Designed to block the root checker of good for enterprise
hi. you can use apps such as Hide my root. they are available in Google Play.
Good Luck
Just got ICS rooted. Any suggested root-only apps I should use before ROMS come out? I've currently only got the "AdAway" adblocker. Thanks much !
Suggestion #1 - post in Q&A.
jerdog said:
Suggestion #1 - post in Q&A.
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Apologies. So any suggestions?
AdFree is always nice to have. Titanium Backup also seems like a good idea.
Root Explorer. (Nuff said)
Wifikill (comes in handy trust me)(search for it on xda, not market)
Sixaxis Controller (I use it on GTA3)
CIFS-Manager to mount a network share as a local folder. With this app, you can play movies / music / anything from a network share without copying it locally.
If you don't need to mess about with root, it might be easier to wait a week or so and see if there is an update to ICS. You might have noticed that lots of people have stability issues, so don't expect too much sympathy if things go wrong.
vakbrain said:
CIFS-Manager to mount a network share as a local folder. With this app, you can play movies / music / anything from a network share without copying it locally.
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hmmm this looks good thanks.
On a similar note Samba Filesharing is pretty sweet. Lets you see your prime under your network so you can easily transfer files to or from real easily.
https://market.android.com/details?...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5mdW5reWZyZXNoLnNhbWJhIl0.
xIC-MACIx said:
Root Explorer. (Nuff said)
Wifikill (comes in handy trust me)(search for it on xda, not market)
Sixaxis Controller (I use it on GTA3)
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How'd you get Sixaxis to work with GTA? I have all my buttons for touch profile set up but it just won't work. Not sure whatsup, followed the tutorials. Are you using the ps3 controller via bluetooth?
mrfrenchfry said:
How'd you get Sixaxis to work with GTA? I have all my buttons for touch profile set up but it just won't work. Not sure whatsup, followed the tutorials. Are you using the ps3 controller via bluetooth?
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To say that's its working would be a lie... I can do everything but use the four right buttons and R and L's right now...Not sure what I screwed up but I'll post the profile and tutorial i used so people can download it when/if it works.
-AdAway
-Root Explorer
-A back app like MyBackupPro or TiTBU that can take advantage of root functions in its backup and restore process
-SetCPU (hope to have future use for this bad boy)
-VooDoo OTA to save root and unistall and reinstall root after OTA updates
-a CacheCleaner
-BusyBox
Surprized no one has mentioned
-- Droidmote Server
You can play games and control the device remotely from another android device like smaller easier to hold phone, personally i dont care for tilt games on the tablet cause it seems to over or under tilt for me the way I hold the device. touch controls/ audio / mousepad
IMHO controlling the device remotely is a really cool benfit of root'ing it
No love for Titanium Backup?
justwonder said:
No love for Titanium Backup?
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Look at my 3rd line above
Titanium backup, root explorer, cache cleaner NG
ROM Toolbox is a great all round app that has functionality of dozens of separate root apps. Check it out.
Lock-N-Load said:
Look at my 3rd line above
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I thought it was Tit and Butt
xIC-MACIx said:
To say that's its working would be a lie... I can do everything but use the four right buttons and R and L's right now...Not sure what I screwed up but I'll post the profile and tutorial i used so people can download it when/if it works.
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A bit off topic still but, yeah all i can do is move but I think it's because my dpad is set to keyboard arrows. It has been reported that the touch emulation doesn't work with ICS either so waiting on an update.
I was wondering if anyone has a comprehensible list of bloatware that can be removed/freezed now that root access is readily available.
silly enough you can remove everything that has a place in the launcher including the launcher its self,there are some google service apps you can also remove.(also a few others but those apps do render the phone fairly useless)
id recomend keeping google play and few other google apps along with the launcher its self, atleast then you can use the phone
vonVaffel said:
I was wondering if anyone has a comprehensible list of bloatware that can be removed/freezed now that root access is readily available.
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Bloatware is just a name for apps added by your carrier. You can just disable any app you don't want to use in the app settings whether you have root or not.
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vonVaffel said:
I was wondering if anyone has a comprehensible list of bloatware that can be removed/freezed now that root access is readily available.
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This guy did some hard work to see what apps can be disabled.
Read here
Thank him for his work.
vonVaffel said:
I was wondering if anyone has a comprehensible list of bloatware that can be removed/freezed now that root access is readily available.
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this is what I (MYSELF) do not need....
1 more...
even more....
a little bit more....
yes yes,, more more...
And this is the last one! This is a real list
I use my mobile for music, bluetooth, facebook, calling, sms and mail, som photos and videos things like that! Im not in a corporate network and I use swiftkey, Acalendar and outlook.com app... I also use Nova launcher and own icons and widgets.. For me almost the whole phone is bloat
Dirtyzecret said:
this is what I (MYSELF) do not need....
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Titanium Backup requires root, correct?
acegreaser said:
Titanium Backup requires root, correct?
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Yes, I forgot to mention, you need root to delete or freeze many of these apps. Titanitum needs root
Dirtyzecret said:
Yes, I forgot to mention, you need root to delete or freeze many of these apps. Titanitum needs root
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Have you removed all of the files and apps showed in these pictures without causing any problems?
Yes
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TJBriand1992 said:
Have you removed all of the files and apps showed in these pictures without causing any problems?
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Yes
What bloatware should I look to remove from my HAM2? Are there any Huawei specific apps that i can ditch? Thanks.
GT1873 said:
What bloatware should I look to remove from my HAM2? Are there any Huawei specific apps that i can ditch? Thanks.
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I've removed these 7. Keep backups of them in case you want to update your system. The official update from Huawei checked for and patched these system apps. If they weren't found the update would fail. Restoring the apps fixed that problem.
Text list if you can't see the pictures:
Weather (HwWeatherClock.apk)
Twitter (Twitter.apk)
Navigate (ROUTE66.apk)
MOCALite 1.0.9 (HwMOCALite.apk)
Me Widget (HwMeWidget_MT2-L03.apk)
Get Asphalt 8 (GetAsphalt8_PGA1_HuaweiMate2_OpenMarket_v100.apk)
Facebook (Facebook.apk)
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Do I back up the apps using titanium back up?
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pucherto123 said:
Do I back up the apps using titanium back up?
Sent from my MT2L03 using XDA Free mobile app
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Titanium Backup would work. Or App Master. Or manually back them up using ES File Explorer. As long as you have a backup that's all that matters. You'll need these system app backups for when the next update comes out (unless that update wipes everything out).
Delete Facebook
arcadesdude said:
I've removed these 7. Keep backups of them in case you want to update your system. The official update from Huawei checked for and patched these system apps. If they weren't found the update would fail. Restoring the apps fixed that problem.
Text list if you can't see the pictures:
Weather (HwWeatherClock.apk)
Twitter (Twitter.apk)
Navigate (ROUTE66.apk)
MOCALite 1.0.9 (HwMOCALite.apk)
Me Widget (HwMeWidget_MT2-L03.apk)
Get Asphalt 8 (GetAsphalt8_PGA1_HuaweiMate2_OpenMarket_v100.apk)
Facebook (Facebook.apk)
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Where can I find the Facebook app to delete it? I've gotten everything else. Thanks.
Honestly, I don't see a reason to remove any of these apps... they are in the system folders so you won't gain any space or anything, just disable them and you won't see them and any updates will still work fine without doing anything special.
TBH, compared to many phones, this list is very minimal.
I guess I just want more control. That's one of the reasons I choose to root my devices. It's OK to stay completely the way the phone comes, regardless of how much or little bloatware is on the device. It is up to the user to choose. That is one of the many reasons Why Android is so popular.
acejavelin said:
Honestly, I don't see a reason to remove any of these apps... they are in the system folders so you won't gain any space or anything, just disable them and you won't see them and any updates will still work fine without doing anything special.
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This sounds like very good advice. Thanks acejavelin. I never really thought about it but since the apps are in a non-usable (for the user) partition, your recommendation makes perfect sense. I already pushed your Thanks button.
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tomlogan1 said:
I guess I just want more control. That's one of the reasons I choose to root my devices. It's OK to stay completely the way the phone comes, regardless of how much or little bloatware is on the device. It is up to the user to choose. That is one of the many reasons Why Android is so popular.
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Control of what? You don't get any control because the apps are in a separate partition that you can't use. In fact, you lose some control because when you delete the apps you can't get OTA.
Just freeze them so they can't run. There's no point deleting them. 7 seems trivial though. I froze more than 50 on mine. There's nothing from Huawei on my phone except the camera app.
lucasho2312 said:
Just freeze them so they can't run. There's no point deleting them. 7 seems trivial though. I froze more than 50 on mine. There's nothing from Huawei on my phone except the camera app.
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I normally back them up so I can delete and save space. Should I need them later on it's simple to restore. But freezing them is a good method since it will let you know if it shall cause issues later on.
SHM said:
I normally back them up so I can delete and save space. Should I need them later on it's simple to restore. But freezing them is a good method since it will let you know if it shall cause issues later on.
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Comment above has pointed out that you don't gain space by deleting system apps. Or rather, you gain unusable space.
If you do prefer delete/restore, remember to back up the data (tweak TiBu to backup full data cuz it will ignore data if data is larger than the apk itself). I had problems with Dialer/Phone and System UI apps without original data. Navigation bar will be lost (it is there but it can't be touched/controlled) and incoming calls cause crash.
lucasho2312 said:
Comment above has pointed out that you don't gain space by deleting system apps. Or rather, you gain unusable space.
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One, you do gain space, two, that space is usable. An average user wouldn't seem to know how to take advantage of this it seems. But to me, I make use of it everyday. - @acejavelin
If you do prefer delete/restore, remember to back up the data (tweak TiBu to backup full data cuz it will ignore data if data is larger than the apk itself).
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I don't use TiBu. Never really cared for it. I use other methods more command-line based within the terminal emulator.
I had problems with Dialer/Phone and System UI apps without original data. Navigation bar will be lost (it is there but it can't be touched/controlled) and incoming calls cause crash.
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This is why it's good to know what to delete and not delete. If familiar with your device then it becomes second nature, but when jumping ship and getting a new device it is typically best to freeze and see the results. Although freezing is no different than saving and deleting. Only thing that distinguishes these two methods is when you freeze the system app, it's still there (and yes, using space). Where as when you keep it safe, say, your sdcard, then it's as simple as placing back, and/or if the particular file causes the device to go bonkers then TWRP makes it possible to fix the problem as well.