[q] questions :) - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

My device. Only had it a week. Been reading more on here that I've actually tried to use the fone, cause the first thing I discover is it's "broken" (which means it works the way "THEY" want it to, not how *I* like it to) ... Am on Verizon based pageplus carrier, don't need any verizon anything I don't think it'll get OTA updates (but need to be sure about that)
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Product Manufacturer: samsung
Product Model: SCH-I605
Model ID:
Device Type: t0ltevzw
Device Characteristics: verizon
Product Serial Number: 42f76dxxxxxxxxxx
Build Description: t0ltevzw-user 4.4.2 KOT49H I605VRUFND7 release-keys
Build Date: Thu May 8 01:25:12 KST 2014
Hardware: smdk4x12
Board Platform: exynos4
Build Version Release: 4.4.2
Build ID: KOT49H
Bootloader: I605VRUFND7
Build PDA: I605VRUFND7
CSC Sales Code: VZW
Region Code: US
Ro.secure Level: 1
Ro.adb.secure Level: 1
Selinux.enforce Level: 1
Selinux Level: 1
Question 1: Got a 32 gig class 10 Sdcard for it, do I format that ext4 (like the rest of my linux?) Or ??? I have heard people unsing fat32 but .... Just tell me what works & by what means (program CLI whatever, w32 or Linux, just whatever THIS phone likes best)
Question 2: Need to totally back the whole thing up before I try to tame this poor beast. Have both odin (all the flavors I could find) and heimdall. would be wise if I could extract not just the whole "blob" but also radio, system, etc so forth (I have found a Pic file)
how to . Yes I've looked.
Question 3: Odin or Heimdall? Or Jodin? I've tried turning the innernetz upside down to find some kinda .chm or .pdf for this Odin thing, nuthin.... I've seen a few good general guides but nothing explaining it's function. Ditto for Heimdall, but atleast I can look at the comments in the code on the Github .... Of these tools, which is best documented / most reliably EFFECTIVE / best supported?
Question 4: Obviously my phone is broken because it was boot-raped when previous owner took 4.4.2 It appears (?) there are very limitted options to getting it 1/2ways usable (but not really RESTORED) with Ghetto-root and Safestrap, I have some access to the phone and can use only some ROMS? No Cyanogen-mod? Losts of warnings in colored boxes, but they say use Heimdal.... Other things I've read says this wont work.... nothing clear on their side.
I need to know how to back the poor thing up first, and get the memory card working before I even try Ghettoroot and safestrap (I already tried GR and failed, and thought, dumbass better make a backup before going any further)
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE

Qestion 1: I usually use the phone to format the SD card. That's the surefire way to make sure that your phone and computer will read the card.
Question 2: I use Odin to flash stock ROM, but haven't tried Heimdall yet, but heard good things. If the devs in this forum say there's no way to unlock the bootloader on a 4.4.2 SCH-I605 yet, I believe them. Don't try anything else unless you know how to unbrick it yet.
Question 3: Just format your memory card and try the ghettoroot like I did. I have Safestrap running as well, and am going to try to flash some modified 4.4.2 ROMs today. I'll post something later indicating my result.
Question 4: Your phone isn't broken, just stock.
It's hard for me to justify asking for too much help with this hardware, considering it's age. I'm late to the root game, but have some good tech knowhow, so I would recommend just trying things. Ghettoroot the phone and get that to work, then flash the stock rom back just for practice with Odin. Then ghettoroot again and install Safestrap, and make a backup onto your external SD Card, so if you run into any problems you can re-flash that using safestrap and get back to normal.
Soft bricks can be fixed with Odin. But hard bricks are tougher to fix (Opening the device and shorting a resistor sounds like it would be fun to try, but I don't really want to risk that with my daily driver phone unless I absolutely have to). I learn by practice, and if it wasn't for this site I wouldn't know crap. Much thanks to the devs and all people with their questions and answers that have taken me this far! And, we'll see if when the SDK comes out for 5.0 lolipop if anyone wants to crack it for the Verizon Note 2. Hopefully they do, cause I'm learning programming, but I'm nowhere near that far yet!

Thank you thank you
Hellstorm32 said:
Question 4: Your phone isn't broken, just stock.
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:cyclops::cyclops: I know..... "they" broke it to keep me from breaking it myself... but I bought it, I paid for it, I will suffer the consequenses and how will I ever learn anything if I don't break it a few times? "they" do not encourage learning... THEY ENCOURAGE BUYING... my phone is full of Amazon and Verizon and NFL for God's sake and I can't use an addblocker without root!
Hellstorm32 said:
It's hard for me to justify asking for too much help with this hardware, considering it's age. I'm late to the root game, but have some good tech knowhow, so I would recommend just trying things. ....
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It's (to me the annoying noob) utterly justifiable to ask for help. The phone is old enough it's no longer under contract and is now available to purchase for cash (I only draw $700 month in disability, I could not afford these new jewelry phones)
Furthermore the phone is old enough that plenty of people smarter than me have had LOTS MORE TIME to really get to understand whats going on with it, how to make it better etc....
Good Luck, I'm gonna format the card tonite

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[Q] Change op sys in my SGS2

Last week I was given a new, boxed SGS2 model GT-I9100G, running ICS 4.0.4, purchased in China. Much of it I can use, after setting it to UK English. However, all the important high use apps. refer to the Chinese national equivalents, and it appears to be linked to the Chinese app. store. So, no Google, no YouTube, no Twitter, no FaceBook and so and none of the obvious European email providers etc.
My local service provider pointed me to a site, with the name androidauthority, as a way of (hopefully) installing a European version of ICS 4.0.4: However, as a new user I am prevented from giving a link to this location (!), so could I ask somebody here with the necessary knowledge to tell me if there is going to be a safe procedure for replacing the Chinese system in my phone with a European equivalent, with a reasonable chance of success?
The questions that come to mind are such things as:
1. This procedure does not appear to require me to have acquired root privileges. Can it work as 'non-root' user?
2. Is the handset as secure after the change as it was before?
3. How much of ICS is replaced by this procedure?
4. Does ICS imply a kernel too? Or is it just an operating system on top of the kernel. If the latter, won't the kernel need changing too, from a Chinese version to a European version?
5. If there is a black screen of death after this procedure, what should I do, in aditional to wailing, throwing myself on the ground or banging my head forcefully against a wall?
By the way, I have purposely held off putting any useful data on the handset before I have solved the language-version issue, so I don't have any back-up/recovery issues (do I?)
Having read a little on this forum, I notice that there does not seem to be a version of CF-root for my handset. 'About phone' gives me a kernel version of 3.0.8-1067026. This version name doesn't seem to match any of those in the list of downloads elsewhere on this forum - it contains no alpha characters for example. 'About phone' also tells me that I have something called 'Baseband Version' - identified as I9100GZCLPL. What is this?
greatbridge said:
Last week I was given a new, boxed SGS2 model GT-I9100G, running ICS 4.0.4, purchased in China. Much of it I can use, after setting it to UK English. However, all the important high use apps. refer to the Chinese national equivalents, and it appears to be linked to the Chinese app. store. So, no Google, no YouTube, no Twitter, no FaceBook and so and none of the obvious European email providers etc.
My local service provider pointed me to a site, with the name androidauthority, as a way of (hopefully) installing a European version of ICS 4.0.4: However, as a new user I am prevented from giving a link to this location (!), so could I ask somebody here with the necessary knowledge to tell me if there is going to be a safe procedure for replacing the Chinese system in my phone with a European equivalent, with a reasonable chance of success?
The questions that come to mind are such things as:
1. This procedure does not appear to require me to have acquired root privileges. Can it work as 'non-root' user?
2. Is the handset as secure after the change as it was before?
3. How much of ICS is replaced by this procedure?
4. Does ICS imply a kernel too? Or is it just an operating system on top of the kernel. If the latter, won't the kernel need changing too, from a Chinese version to a European version?
5. If there is a black screen of death after this procedure, what should I do, in aditional to wailing, throwing myself on the ground or banging my head forcefully against a wall?
By the way, I have purposely held off putting any useful data on the handset before I have solved the language-version issue, so I don't have any back-up/recovery issues (do I?)
Having read a little on this forum, I notice that there does not seem to be a version of CF-root for my handset. 'About phone' gives me a kernel version of 3.0.8-1067026. This version name doesn't seem to match any of those in the list of downloads elsewhere on this forum - it contains no alpha characters for example. 'About phone' also tells me that I have something called 'Baseband Version' - identified as I9100GZCLPL. What is this?
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Okay, here we go:
0) You really should check if your device is authentic. You are mentioning apps restrictions (In the about the phone section tag, does it says "Android Version 4.0.4"?) and apps country related (might be chinase carrier bloatware).
1) You can flash a new ROM (Euro Version for example) via Odin (no Root) or via CWM (Root required).
2) Flashing is all about changing operating systems, If you choose the right ROM for YOUR device, and you FOLLOW instructions given, it's safe.
3) ICS versions comes in 2 ways, Branded (Carrier Bloatware) & Unbranded (No carrier bloatware).
4) ICS package comes with ROM, Modem and Kernel. You can look it up each of them so you'll get familiar with these terms.
5) Don't think about that, should be fine.
6) No worrys about data, this is a system flash, not a SD Card flash.
7) You can follow many guides here on XDA to root your device.
8) Baseband is related to Modem. Network for your country / region.
And most importantly, make sure anything u flash is for the I9100G and not the I9100.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
Hayth said:
And most importantly, make sure anything u flash is for the I9100G and not the I9100.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
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True + Read about Brick Bug (4.0.4) kernel.
gastonw said:
Okay, here we go:
0) You really should check if your device is authentic. You are mentioning apps restrictions (In the about the phone section tag, does it says "Android Version 4.0.4"?) and apps country related (might be chinase carrier bloatware).
1) You can flash a new ROM (Euro Version for example) via Odin (no Root) or via CWM (Root required).
2) Flashing is all about changing operating systems, If you choose the right ROM for YOUR device, and you FOLLOW instructions given, it's safe.
3) ICS versions comes in 2 ways, Branded (Carrier Bloatware) & Unbranded (No carrier bloatware).
4) ICS package comes with ROM, Modem and Kernel. You can look it up each of them so you'll get familiar with these terms.
5) Don't think about that, should be fine.
6) No worrys about data, this is a system flash, not a SD Card flash.
7) You can follow many guides here on XDA to root your device.
8) Baseband is related to Modem. Network for your country / region.
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Great, thanks for this detailed reply.
From what I write here you will conclude that I am totally uninformed and (naturally) would be a little impatient. I would ask your indulgence. The fact is that I am totally uninformed - about things mobile - but I have been messing around with technology since 1959, (yes, that's 1959), especially with Linux installs and updates since about 2003. Being exceptionally outdated, I am exceptionally diligent at following instructions, so I have read your guidance in detail. Ignorance-driven questions arise:
As far as I can reasonably tell the device is not a fake - packaging style and contents, reputation of supplier, functionality of the phone all appear to be authentic (but what do I know?), This begs the question: what is a water-tight test of authenticity? The (non Samsung) apps. on the device appear to be only the Chinese national equivalents of those US/European ones which I expected: Weibo, QQ, YouKou, Baidu, RenRen - with, perhaps the stuff from TenCent which is admittedly bloatware, It does indeed say (in 'About phone') Android 4.0.4.
From elsewhere (sorry, cannot identify from browser history where) I found a list of all the ROMs(?) currently 'current' for the GT-I9100G. which seemed to link my system to ChinaUnicom, However it doesn't seem to be locked to that service provider because I was able to make phone calls with SIMs from both O2 and Giff-Gaff (which is really O2) installed in the handset. There was no SIM in the handset when I received it.
a). How do I identify the 'correct' ROM - seeing as the one I have is 'incorrect' in the sense that it is not what I want and therefore isn't much of a guide to me in identifying the correct one! I assume here correctness is synonymous with handset model number being fully and unambiguously identified. Yes?
b). Where do I download an unbranded, unbloated, version of ICS 4.0.4? I have downloaded a 380MB file (following instructions on the Androidauthority website that I am not permitted to mention <sigh>) named I9100GXXLPY_I9100GDBTLP3_DBT.zip - does this look like an unbranded ROM of approximately the correct size and naming convention?
c). Is it necessary to root the device (I was planning to use Odin, which I have downloaded)? In my naive state I associate a system in which the user has root privileges as being about as secure as Windows 2000 - i.e. a welcome destination for every hacker and psycho in the world. Is this correct? If so, why would I ever want to run with a 'rooted' handset, give the remarkable growth in the number of malware and the number of ways of 'acquiring' them? Thus, I was hoping to be able to make this change without having to 'root' the device. (btw did anybody from Oz ever point out what the commonly understood meaning of that word is? It surprised me to see it in common use!)
I look forward to your continued advice. Thanks again.
Hayth said:
And most importantly, make sure anything u flash is for the I9100G and not the I9100.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
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Yes, I think I have realised that. The G version has quite different hardware (main processor and graphics processor) than the non-G version. I would expect a 'black screen of death' if using the wring ROM. But is there some naming convention in the ROM which will, without doubt, identify its intended hardware target?
greatbridge said:
Great, thanks for this detailed reply.
From what I write here you will conclude that I am totally uninformed and (naturally) would be a little impatient. I would ask your indulgence. The fact is that I am totally uninformed - about things mobile - but I have been messing around with technology since 1959, (yes, that's 1959), especially with Linux installs and updates since about 2003. Being exceptionally outdated, I am exceptionally diligent at following instructions, so I have read your guidance in detail. Ignorance-driven questions arise:
As far as I can reasonably tell the device is not a fake - packaging style and contents, reputation of supplier, functionality of the phone all appear to be authentic (but what do I know?), This begs the question: what is a water-tight test of authenticity? The (non Samsung) apps. on the device appear to be only the Chinese national equivalents of those US/European ones which I expected: Weibo, QQ, YouKou, Baidu, RenRen - with, perhaps the stuff from TenCent which is admittedly bloatware, It does indeed say (in 'About phone') Android 4.0.4.
From elsewhere (sorry, cannot identify from browser history where) I found a list of all the ROMs(?) currently 'current' for the GT-I9100G. which seemed to link my system to ChinaUnicom, However it doesn't seem to be locked to that service provider because I was able to make phone calls with SIMs from both O2 and Giff-Gaff (which is really O2) installed in the handset. There was no SIM in the handset when I received it.
a). How do I identify the 'correct' ROM - seeing as the one I have is 'incorrect' in the sense that it is not what I want and therefore isn't much of a guide to me in identifying the correct one! I assume here correctness is synonymous with handset model number being fully and unambiguously identified. Yes?
b). Where do I download an unbranded, unbloated, version of ICS 4.0.4? I have downloaded a 380MB file (following instructions on the Androidauthority website that I am not permitted to mention <sigh>) named I9100GXXLPY_I9100GDBTLP3_DBT.zip - does this look like an unbranded ROM of approximately the correct size and naming convention?
c). Is it necessary to root the device (I was planning to use Odin, which I have downloaded)? In my naive state I associate a system in which the user has root privileges as being about as secure as Windows 2000 - i.e. a welcome destination for every hacker and psycho in the world. Is this correct? If so, why would I ever want to run with a 'rooted' handset, give the remarkable growth in the number of malware and the number of ways of 'acquiring' them? Thus, I was hoping to be able to make this change without having to 'root' the device. (btw did anybody from Oz ever point out what the commonly understood meaning of that word is? It surprised me to see it in common use!)
I look forward to your continued advice. Thanks again.
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Looks like you are already getting the hang of it.
First off, here's some reading material:
Index Guide.
Here you will learn about the infamus brick bug (Everyone on 4.0.4 should be aware of this).
Here you will see what NOT to do, because these guys already did and went bad. It's about how to get it back, so you'll get to know some interesting process.
About Root, you got this guy.
Worried about possible exploits, see what the Android Main Man did.
About some Root Humour, you got this.
If you are root sold, here's how you do it (I9100G Version).
Sammobile.com has got plenty of branded and unbranded ROMs for you to choose from (remember that crazy G at the end!).
About that fake remark, here's an example.
I guess I'm not forgetting anything....if I did, well, I'll notice it
gastonw said:
True + Read about Brick Bug (4.0.4) kernel.
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I tried searching on this term in Google. It referred me to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1897295
in which I learn that if I flash my handset with kernel 4.0.4, when that kernel is already installed (as it is on my handset), then I will be certain to have a bricked kernel. So, is this another way of saying that a solution to my original problem is not available?
Here's some additional info on your device:
Custom Roms & Kernels for I9100G.
Switch Between Chinease & International.
Here is something abour porting, whatever that is
gastonw said:
Looks like you are already getting the hang of it.
First off, here's some reading material:
Index Guide.
Here you will learn about the infamus brick bug (Everyone on 4.0.4 should be aware of this).
Here you will see what NOT to do, because these guys already did and went bad. It's about how to get it back, so you'll get to know some interesting process.
About Root, you got this guy.
Worried about possible exploits, see what the Android Main Man did.
About some Root Humour, you got this.
If you are root sold, here's how you do it (I9100G Version).
Sammobile.com has got plenty of branded and unbranded ROMs for you to choose from (remember that crazy G at the end!).
About that fake remark, here's an example.
I guess I'm not forgetting anything....if I did, well, I'll notice it
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Wow, I find myself overwhelmed by all this information.
You know, all I really want to do is change the operating system language version, so that it makes my handset look like one that was purchased in UK/Europe, and that avoid a costly embarrassment. (The person who gave me the phone is waiting for me to use it...)
To refer to a Linux desk-top analogy, I want to replace Ubuntu 12.04 , simplified Chinese version, with Ubuntu 12.04 UK English version. I don't want to change my Linux kernel version, there's no need to when I'm not changing the version of Ubuntu and anyway too new = too risky; too old = inadequate hardware support. I don't want to change my ROM: I've got no hardware errors or bugs in my ROM which are directly responsible for functional limitations which affect my use of the phone - the 3 'dead' motherboards in my cupboard here are proof that ROM flashing is not without its risks.
So, conceptually, I want to try to do something straight forward. In the desktop scenario I would just download the correct level & version of Ubuntu from a Canonical server and install it. End of task. But in this mobile scenario I'm told about flashing ROMs, secure and insecure kernels, asked to choose whether or not to root the phone, asking to locate and choose 'firmware' (what ever that is, in this contex)t and also told that that the update is bound to fail, rendering my phone unusable.
That's all a very daunting story, which at the least requires me to embark on a serious and in-depth re-education program. That's a bit of challenge for somebody into their 7th decade, when all they want to do is use a phone.
Isn't there a simpler, more straightforward way of doing this?
Trust me, this isn't as hard as its sounds. And I'm also sure that in one week you will be sticking your teeth into the flashing & rooting world.
As you already are a Linux user, you'll find this OS very similar, because it's based on it.
Once you realize everything you can do with that little guy sittin right next to you, yoo'll be up for a thrill, regardless of your age or whatever.
You can start by Internationalization here.
gastonw said:
Trust me, this isn't as hard as its sounds. And I'm also sure that in one week you will be sticking your teeth into the flashing & rooting world.
As you already are a Linux user, you'll find this OS very similar, because it's based on it.
Once you realize everything you can do with that little guy sittin right next to you, yoo'll be up for a thrill, regardless of your age or whatever.
You can start by Internationalization here.
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Yes, that is indeed where I want to start, so I really appreciate this link.
My first step in education is to be able to correctly interpret the English that is being used - I'm from a different age & universe, so some of the expressions in the linked article are confusing to me. The guide appears to be written from the assumption that the target audience is the uninformed user (like myself) but then invites the reader to 'use any stock ROM you choose' which implies a level of knowledge (about what a 'stock ROM' is, which ones are appropriate and where to find them) that is wholly inconsistent with the assumption. If I new all that stuff already, I wouldn't need the guide!. As it is the guide is great - but leaves me hanging in the air while I research the missing - and key - chapter.
Ah, well, never a dull moment; pity I have so few of them left (moments, that is)
gastonw said:
Trust me, this isn't as hard as its sounds. And I'm also sure that in one week you will be sticking your teeth into the flashing & rooting world.
As you already are a Linux user, you'll find this OS very similar, because it's based on it.
Once you realize everything you can do with that little guy sittin right next to you, yoo'll be up for a thrill, regardless of your age or whatever.
You can start by Internationalization here.
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Damn it, this is so frustrating: none of the links available directly or indirectly in the article you have directed me to identify a suitable ICS firmware for United Kingdom. However, the threads that are referenced obviously are started by people with inappropriate knowledge, but - frustratingly - lacking the necessary credibility I am not allowed to post to those threads to ask.
The primary article has the same issue:I would like to post a reply to this method of internationalization by asking for an interpretation of the expression '- Manual Load Driver for OMAP4430 From usb_drv_windows folder (included in download content )' - 'manual load'? Load what from where into what? What is this download content? I don't have any 'download content'
Next frustration is my attempts to get Samsung USB drivers. EVERY site I have tried says words to the effect that this file has been deleted because too many people have requested it - or it points me back to XDA in an area I am not allowed access to - or it points me to the singularly ineffective (in my experience) SAMWARE site, which does not list anything, irrespective of language, for the I9100G.
Yep - it's truly like the Linux world: frustrating in the extreme, full of dead ends and self-referential logic, notable for its disciple (in the sense of the total lack thereof), wondrously chaotic and - by simple observation - very effective. But not for me.
Lol, think of it as a marriage.
D.L. mode (you probably screwed up and you gotta turn the balance to your side)
Recovery Mode (now YOU did screw up)
Flash (show off)
wipe (start from scratch, now on your feet)
Stock (this is who I married, now I just gotta hang in here)
Custom (An affair)
Brick ("Honey, we need to talk")
gastonw said:
Trust me, this isn't as hard as its sounds. And I'm also sure that in one week you will be sticking your teeth into the flashing & rooting world.
As you already are a Linux user, you'll find this OS very similar, because it's based on it.
Once you realize everything you can do with that little guy sittin right next to you, yoo'll be up for a thrill, regardless of your age or whatever.
You can start by Internationalization here.
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Well, it's more than a week - and I still have not been able to locate the right firmware to download, or a process for using it that can be followed.
I did invoke Samsung UK Technical support. They directed me to a service agent - a 6 hour round trip plus waiting time. This 'service agent' announced that it would take 'more than 2 hours' to download the firmware, then advised me that the attempt to flash my phone failed at the point of loading the PIT. He refused to tell me what firmware load he had tried and refused to return the phone unless I paid a service charge. At this time Samsung haven't responded to my complaint about this con-trick.
Got any advice on where else I might go to get this fixed?
gastonw said:
Lol, think of it as a marriage.
D.L. mode (you probably screwed up and you gotta turn the balance to your side)
Recovery Mode (now YOU did screw up)
Flash (show off)
wipe (start from scratch, now on your feet)
Stock (this is who I married, now I just gotta hang in here)
Custom (An affair)
Brick ("Honey, we need to talk")
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Huh?
greatbridge said:
Huh?
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analogys
gastonw said:
analogys
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This dialogue has not made one word of sense to me; I'm clearly in the wrong time or place, or both.
Can somebody point me to the exit so I can come in again, and ask for some guidance on how to get my phone updated?
alt + f4?
Sent from the little guy
The g model doesnt have a Uk rom because the phone isnt meant for here.
You can see what custom firmware is available.
"noob ok...lazy noob not ok"

[Q] root/unroot MS1 without ANY flashing?

Hi there!
I have been searching and reading tons of post in xda-developers and I feel I'm ready to ask since I haven't found what I need.
In short: I want to root my I9100 WITHOUT FLASHING ANYTHING and later return to my official legally supported vanilla non-rooted immaculate guaranteed configuration.
My mobile is Samsung Galaxy S II (model GT-I9100), with:
Android version: 4.1.2
Baseband version: I9100UHMS1
Kernel version: 3.0.31-914166 [email protected] #3
Build number: JZO54K.I9100UHMS8
Product code: GT-I9100LKLCHE
External microSD card: 32GB
I guess the important things are the JellyBean 4.1.2 and the "MS1/MS8" version.
I already tried SuperOneClick v2.3.3. Sadly it turns not-responding at step #7. I did read that "psneuter exploit" could make it work instead; however, it didn't (it turn not-responding at step #5).
All other threads in xda-developers mention the word "flash" in the process and it terrifies me.
Hence, could you please lead me to a proper guide, or draft a recipe for me? (I don't care if the process is tedious and hard)
Thanks in advance,
Turritopsis Nutricula (the immortal Jelly...Fish)
As far as I know using methods like superoneclick or CF-Root causes the yellow triangle at the bootscreen. This can be deleted by a simply programme, but you take a risk that something might go wrong. The only thing I've seen that shouldn't make flash counter go up is flashing Philz kernel. I know you wanted the way without flashing but there's nothing scary.I was worried too when I was rooting my phone this way(even if my chip was sane) but all went good. Then I've made the same thing on my friend's s2 and this time his chip was insane.Everything went fine. I would suggest this way of rooting phone because it's the easiest and the safest method out there in my opinion.
Turritopsis said:
In short: I want to root my I9100 WITHOUT FLASHING ANYTHING and later return to my official legally supported vanilla non-rooted immaculate guaranteed configuration.
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Here's a quote that comes to my mind:
“You Can't Cross a River Without Getting Wet”
To be frank, I feel flashing is more safer than using a toolkit, because you know exactly what and how you're flashing. :good:
And it doesn't make a difference which method you choose as long as you can unroot it and return to stock (which is probably the reason you are afraid to flash).
So, I suggest you check this thread out, or flash Philz kernel.

[Q] So ... Us Little Guys (S4 Mini)

I'm just stepping over to the big-dog conversation for a hot minute because there's just not much goin' on for sch-l435 yet (Verizon S4 Mini).
Really, I'm wanting to install ClockworkMod recovery so that I can create full backups. Some of you will get a good laugh out of this next bit ...
I bought my brand new mini, pulled it from the box, rooted, tweaked, designed, froze some bloat (TB) and then thought "I gotta back this baby up properly".
So, I downloaded a recovery install image from here: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager - the version that reads Samsung Galaxy S4 (Verizon)
... but installed it using LINUX COMMANDS FOR THE WRONG DEVICE and NUKED my internal memory hahaha. I was tired. I literally copied/pasted linux commands for some obscure tablet. Total fail on my part.
She's fully repaired, courtesy of these guys: http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/
So, here I am and I still would like to have software that reliably clones/zips/contains an extractable backup with all of the settings and cache intact. TWRP just doesn't feel right. Something about it seems off/unreliable.
Questions I have for you, great owners of the larger, superior device
(a) is my phone formatted in the very same way as yours in terms of directories and volume info?
(b) will your version of Clockwork recovery work with the Mini?
(c) If not, is there an alternative solution that will *reliably* compress a cloned copy of my phone into a singular zip file that can later be extracted should my phone get wonky?
Shanks!
Just trying to help here .. I think people will need to know much more about the device in order to help you. I'm no dev just trying to get you closer to where you want to be.
Good luck! Hope your bootloader is unlocked
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
Oh, I think there's plenty of information in my initial post to start off with, ie: what phone I'm using, what I'm intending to do, the yet-to-be-explored development status of said model (sch-l435) and my reasoning for questions to the owner's of it's big brother.
I'm game to provide further *specific* information upon request.
Whatever it takes.
RobinDean said:
Oh, I think there's plenty of information in my initial post to start off with, ie: what phone I'm using, what I'm intending to do, the yet-to-be-explored development status of said model (sch-l435) and my reasoning for questions to the owner's of it's big brother.
I'm game to provide further *specific* information upon request.
Whatever it takes.
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don't expect alot here as this is the S4 forum...sooner or later a forum should be set for the mini
I respectfully appreciate that and should anyone know anything regarding my issue off-hand, feel free to PM me. I'll bow-out of the topic here so as to keep my intrusion to a minimum.
RobinDean said:
I respectfully appreciate that and should anyone know anything regarding my issue off-hand, feel free to PM me. I'll bow-out of the topic here so as to keep my intrusion to a minimum.
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most likely the bootloader is locked in same manor as S4 is and you can't load a recovery on it like you tried to do.
I used linux commands initially, which is what fried the phone (got it back, good as new).
Are rooted S4 users able to install CWM Recovery independently in any way or are you guys forced to flash a ROM that happens to include it?
RobinDean said:
I used linux commands initially, which is what fried the phone (got it back, good as new).
Are rooted S4 users able to install CWM Recovery independently in any way or are you guys forced to flash a ROM that happens to include it?
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Can't do either. ...since bootloader is totally locked down since mdk. Our only Avenue is safestrap and a few compatible roms
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven

[Q] [HELP]Siyah kernel Installation

I want to install Siyah Kernel On Galaxy SII GT-19100 converted from Korean.
I am on Jelly Bean 4.1.2 stock and my kernel has the EMMC Brick Bug.
Can I install Siyah Kernel Safely if no Why?. Are there any other kernels that i can install?
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
Model Number:
GT-19100
Baseband Version:
19100XXLS8
Kernel Version:
3.0.31-889555
[email protected] #3
Sadeed said:
I Need Help Fast
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No, you do not. Knowing whether you can flash a custom kernel/not & how to flash it is hardly a life/death situation.
Your phone currently works (though given your haste in this matter & apparent unwillingness to take your time to read/learn, I'd be prepared to wager it won't be working for long), there's nothing urgent in your request beyond your belief you have an entitlement to the people here dropping whatever they're doing just to answer your non-urgent question (perhaps you have us confused with the employees of your carrier, to which you've paid money & not unreasonably have an expectation of prompt service ?)
Go read the Siyah thread, read the instructions until they make sense, don't do anything until that happens. It's hardly rocket surgery.
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No, you do not. Knowing whether you can flash a custom kernel/not & how to flash it is hardly a life/death situation.
Your phone currently works (though given your haste in this matter & apparent unwillingness to take your time to read/learn, I'd be prepared to wager it won't be working for long), there's nothing urgent in your request beyond your belief you have an entitlement to the people here dropping whatever they're doing just to answer your non-urgent question (perhaps you have us confused with the employees of your carrier, to which you've paid money & not unreasonably have an expectation of prompt service ?)
Go read the Siyah thread, read the instructions until they make sense, don't do anything until that happens. It's hardly rocket surgery.
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Can you explain that what are you saying i know that it will not cause any danger but i want to be double sure
Anytime you flash anything to your phone (whether it's a rom, kernel, mod, whatever) via any method (whether it's Odin, CWM, whatever) there is a very small risk that something will go wrong. Each and every time. This risk always remains small with every flash, it doesn't mean the 100th time you flash is 100 times more dangerous than the first time or more likely to damage your phone. If you attempt to flash with hardware that isn't working perfectly or you fail to learn/understand what you're doing before you actually do it, you increase that risk.
If you ensure you know exactly what you're doing before you do it (the reading/learning bit I alluded to in my PP), and ensure you don't do anything completely daft like attempt to flash firmware for a completely different device to your phone, or pull the cable halfway through an Odin flash, you ensure that risk remains very minimal.
However, if you're looking for a 100% guaranteed risk free way to mod your phone, there isn't one.
So, can you install Siyah safely to your phone ? Yes, you can. But as I've said above, there is always a small chance you might brick your phone in the process.

I messed up

Hi, I am new here, but have recently gotten into rooting phones etc, but my knowledge base is still Novice at best. I have an AT&T Optimus G that was rooted and had CWM, Free G and Kitkat. Long story short, a co-worker who claimed to know what they were doing has reset my phone, wiped my external sd card and totally factory reset my phone. When I turn it on now ClockworkMod Recovery comes on, but all of my back ups etc have been wiped. I am assuming that it is now just a machine with no info on it. What do I do now? I'm sure that the answer to this will be very involved so if anyone could possibly suggest a thread to read or somewhere to start I would greatly appreciate it. I'm sorry for the inconvenience guys...
The google account that this was linked to is my current one so no issues with reset protection once it gets running or what not. Any info I can provide on my end if need be feel free to let me know. I know one of the specifics to the device was: geefhd???
Here is the current update: Android 4.4.2 KitKat
The details
Release date: September 29, 2015
Android version: 4.4.2
Baseband version: APQ8064/MDM9x15M
Kernel version: 3.4.0
Build number: KOT49I.E98020i
File size: 9.47MB
Software version: E98020i
EMT803 said:
Hi, I am new here, but have recently gotten into rooting phones etc, but my knowledge base is still Novice at best. I have an AT&T Optimus G that was rooted and had CWM, Free G and Kitkat. Long story short, a co-worker who claimed to know what they were doing has reset my phone, wiped my external sd card and totally factory reset my phone. When I turn it on now ClockworkMod Recovery comes on, but all of my back ups etc have been wiped. I am assuming that it is now just a machine with no info on it. What do I do now? I'm sure that the answer to this will be very involved so if anyone could possibly suggest a thread to read or somewhere to start I would greatly appreciate it. I'm sorry for the inconvenience guys...
The google account that this was linked to is my current one so no issues with reset protection once it gets running or what not. Any info I can provide on my end if need be feel free to let me know. I know one of the specifics to the device was: geefhd???
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Since your phone has been wiped, you are going to have to re-install your ROM either via LGNPST, which will return your phone to stock, or you will need to install your favorite custom ROM via adb sideload.
If going back to stock via LGNPST refer to FAQ Number 3 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006946
If installing custom rom via ADB Sideload refer here http://www.droidviews.com/sideload-roms-mods-using-adb-sideload/
Kilogrm said:
Since your phone has been wiped, you are going to have to re-install your ROM either via LGNPST, which will return your phone to stock, or you will need to install your favorite custom ROM via adb sideload.
If going back to stock via LGNPST refer to FAQ Number 3 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006946
If installing custom rom via ADB Sideload refer here http://www.droidviews.com/sideload-roms-mods-using-adb-sideload/
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I was able to fix the problem late the night of this post, but I REALLY DO APPRECIATE the advice.
I had to reinstall the firmware ultimately. I did learn the commands and process for the sideload, so that was cool, and the program zips did show as downloading from 0-100% and attempted to install, but the 4g part of "this device is geef4g" was an error that I was unable to surmount. I attempted to install the madmack version of TWRP to no avail. I am lucky I figured out the tool ONLY by accidentally stumbling over the advice referencing turning back the clock on the pc.
Moving Forward...
Ok... Had to at least stop in and say thank you for the response and post the conclusion to the handful of people that stopped and looked at the thread and at the least not be one of the members that pops on to fix their device and lurks around until they need help to post again. I wouldn't be back to stock with my Optimus if others did that. I do apologize that I was able to find onsite and unable to do it at the time of the threads origin. I wont re-post links, FlashTool the fix was figuring out the right order to go in with the drivers and eventually flashing the stock AT&T firmware with the LG FlashTool. I kept on getting an error when placing the dll file and the tot in to the Tool and it was total mental error on my part when "organizing" everything beforehand. It did require me to wipe my pc back down to Windows 8.1 simply because this is all new to me and I had files EVERYWHERE from rooting every thing I can get my hands on recently. I'm having fun, but this Optimus is my heart for some reason. Originally I had her rooted with Towelroot (I believe), it could of been the LG one click flash thing that I grabbed from here, and I remember Freegee and KitKat recovery being part of the process, but I attempted to install TWRP (personal preference for me from messing with a Kindle Fire for weeks installing CM) but during reboot always went back to CWM 6.0.2.1 (or similiar). Ultimately CM was the goal on this device but was never possible, for me at least, due to my device being "geef4g" yada yada. I think I have read the fix for this in another post, so I will re study up on all that again if need by, but I wanted to pose this question simply because the "Mystique" of successfully installing CM has passed, and while I love the interface and style of that ROM, I kinda liked AndroidArea51 Rom and another ROM whose name escapes me at the moment that I put on some OLD LG phones that I practiced on in the beginning. So this is my goal. I would love it if one or two of you guys would take the time to look at what I want to accomplish and point me in the right direction as far as the procedure and order I should install these modifications to this device and if you have preferences I would love to hear them. I will look up the threads on how to do everything, so I'm not asking for an easy way out of hitting the search box, but I am WAY behind you guys as far as skill set and knowledge base is concerned and trial and error is not the method I wanted to use on this particular machine. If I need to begin a new thread or if a MOD wants/requires me to rename this thread or move it I understand. Stand by for what my goal is ultimately......
OBJECTIVE
AT&T Optimus Pro G (will HOPEFULLY be accepted by StraightTalk and used on their network or whatnot)
I ran the IMEI through their BYOD tool and it was accepted initially a week or so ago while "rooted", so I am assuming that since it is mine from another network they wont sweat me. HOWEVER, if they are going to send any code or require me to allow them modifications during the activation process that is going to in anyway alter my device down to the castrated ST standard they sell, I will have to weigh finances and options again. I realize that Tethering will be frowned upon, traceable, and grounds for termination in either case, but the subject of Mobile Hotspots is what brought me to you guys here in the first place. It irks me.
In my original "build" of this phone I attempted to dabble in "Over-Clocking" with Kernel Booster and Kernel Auditor. I didn't have a f******* clue what any of that $hiT meant. If the app's pretty much optimized it I did so for SPEED rather than battery. I don't know why, I want this thing to FLY in a noticeable fashion for performance and so that I can whip it out and show my family and friends just what the hell it is that I am accomplishing.
1. Optimize it for speed, but I would like the eventual permanent ROM to be stable PERIOD. Whether I customize the Kernel and then place the ROM, or build the ROM and then mess with the Kernel is a hurdle that I don't understand how to approach really, so when you guys talk about it I just think it sounds cool. I am assuming that "Xposed" is something I should maybe begin studying? Build props through ES File Explorer has peaked my interest as well. Long story short, if CM is what you guys suggest I install, I dont want to Optimize the hell out of the stock only to have all of it be replaced when the custom ROM is flashed. I hope that makes sense.
2. I want to optimize the range on my WIFI and every other manner of device communication without losing security. I have numerous friends that are very generous with their personal accounts that allow me to randomly log in to strangers spots (EX. Xfinity accouts), in order to truly connect to it, I have to sit outside in the yard like a weirdo at 3am with my phone in my backyard, much to the disgust of every dog in the neighborhood. I dont want to be that guy. Honestly, I am really curious in learning how to access the internet and/or any other data networks that are out there with out using these major carriers at all. I feel like there is a lot more out there than the average person is aware of. Maybe they are super low key because they are owned by the upper rich 1% or the military etc etc, but if other networks exist that facilitate the same communications that us peasants pay $100/month to access I want in on it.
3. Optimize the picture, color and clarity of the screen for any and everything being shown on it, optimize the Audio with a good "Music Player"(currently what I use) which I generally heard through head phones and when in the car pushed to that system via FM signal. I currently have over 1000 tracks, discovering a cost efficient way of adding to that Library would be wonderful (ie: spend $0), but I have been out of the music file sharing game for a while so I dont know if this is realistic. Optimizing my camera to take the best shots possible on this phone. I generally shoot nature shots, sunsets, sunrises.... unsuspecting women in doggy, the usual... I will not be loading movies and super large files. I am a NAZI with my storage. If I could expand upon the internal or external factory specs that would be great. In other words, real life applications... I haven't been a gamer for decades so nothing crazy, but this device's beautiful picture is what I fell in love with.
4. A kick ass ROM UI that is eye catching and user friendly... sorry so long winded. Got to go run calls at work now....

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