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I have the Verizon LG G3 with build 12b installed (Was updated by the store when I purchased phone). Is there anyway to unlock the boot loader and root the device as is, or roll the device back to a previous build that is easily unlockable/rootable?
You should have posted in the q&a forum area.
Anyhow - if you want to root, and install a custom recovery (twrp), use the kdz method to get back to 10b:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56484240
Then from this forum area install the bump/twrp from autoprime, and make sure to either freeze system updates or rename the two LGDMSClient files in /system/app. The freeze or rename is so new ota don't get pushed onto your phone after you get the custom recovery (twrp). Otherwise you'll needed the solution in the "stuck in custom recovery" thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56061720
(It is handy to download the "stuck" zip onto your phone as a just-in-case. If you do get an ota, and your phone keeps booting to recovery, tell twrp to Install the zip to clear the ota files )
HTH!
I am trying that method now (actually before you replied) but the kdz file is taking for ever to download. Been running for 30 minutes and still showing 7 hours remaining. I have a really fast internet connection but that one file doesn't wanna download!
markfm said:
You should have posted in the q&a forum area.
Anyhow - if you want to root, and install a custom recovery (twrp), use the kdz method to get back to 10b:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56484240
Then from this forum area install the bump/twrp from autoprime, and make sure to either freeze system updates or rename the two LGDMSClient files in /system/app. The freeze or rename is so new ota don't get pushed onto your phone after you get the custom recovery (twrp). Otherwise you'll needed the solution in the "stuck in custom recovery" thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56061720
(It is handy to download the "stuck" zip onto your phone as a just-in-case. If you do get an ota, and your phone keeps booting to recovery, tell twrp to Install the zip to clear the ota files )
HTH!
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Check post 150 in that thread. annoyingduck posted a second link
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Check post 150 in that thread. annoyingduck posted a second link
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I think I am in love with you, JK.....seriously though thanks a bunch....downloading the Mega link now and it seems to be going MUCH faster.
Did it work for you? I tried to downgrade, when phone said 100% it rebooted. I had a dark screen.... Went to the Verizon store, was told it was hard bricked. Haven't tried rooting my replacement yet.
Early adopter, got my phone in July, used the original ioroot, never had to revert.
The kdz method has had quite a few people who succeeded, based on what I read, no idea why it went bad for you. If you are gun shy, understandable, post 2 of annoying duck's thread has a link for the tot approach, supposed to be a slightly more pita way but not too exotic. Key is to flash any existing g3 drivers on your PC, install the proper things used by the tot method.
martinez5241 said:
Did it work for you? I tried to downgrade, when phone said 100% it rebooted. I had a dark screen.... Went to the Verizon store, was told it was hard bricked. Haven't tried rooting my replacement yet.
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Anyway to downgrade without this happening? I want to run stock lollipop on my G3 but so far am stuck at the VS98512b update too
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Anyway to downgrade without this happening? I want to run stock lollipop on my G3 but so far am stuck at the VS98512b update too
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I did the kdz method. Omg you run the program and it starts don't click on any notifications, just let it run. Sorry about the late response.
(FlashKDZ/Root/Recovery/Hiddenmenu/troubleshooting) (noob2noob guide)
Okay, this is my first thread on XDA, the reason I'm making it is there is a lots of problems with progressing to lollipop. All of this is already mentioned in the forum, but this way it is much easier since it is all at one place. If I'm doing something wrong please warn me with explanation how to resolve the issue. If I'm posting in wrong forum section please move my thread where it is supposed to be.
1. Before doing anything check if your phone is ready to get updated:
1.1 Do you have a stock Kitkat rom or at least a rom that is kitkat based, since there can be a problem with partitioning if custom lollipop rom is installed
1.2 Create a backup. Don't be lazy LG backups will not help you since they can't go from kitkat to lollipop, don't try to do it from recovery because you will lose custom recovery. Copy your files from phone including extracted contacts, and back it up online with google or some other backup providers.
1.3 Check if you have a latest touch firmware, because you might have a problems after installing lollipop and it will be hard for you to check for updates since your touch might become useless.
1.3.1 To check it go to hidden service menu by typing 3845#*802# and go under HW Device Test, then Touch Test then touch firmware version and write everything down. After that go to touch firmware upgrade and after 15 seconds compare the touch firmware version values with those you written down.
1.4 In hidden Menu you can also go to wlan test then ota setting to check if it is disabled on your phone. After that check again if there is OTA updates for your phone, and also check if there is PC suite Update.
1.5 Check your phones version if it is D802, D800 or something else, and check which rom you have installed. You can do this in settings about phone or if you are happy about hidden menu found, go there and into settings then version info. This might not be interesting or fun to do, but it will save you the trouble if something goes wrong, because you will know what to ask.
1.6 Last but not the least, before starting to flash fill up your battery, i've read some posts that say there are problems with wrong capacity shown, and a lots of battery drain problems, and only solution till now is to have a full battery on start.
2. You will need LG FlashTool and of course installed drivers for your G2 on your PC.
All of that you can get in the thread by @quangnhut123 .
2.1 Just a bit of precautions, don't forget to always copy a kdz file in to Flashtool folder and then start a tool. All should look the same as in that thread, except you should always use CSE method because with this method you will install kdz from scratch, removing everything from the phone.
2.2 You should find the kdz file which suits for your phone on site . You can check for kdz by typing in imei in check new firmware section or find the one for yourself by searching the site. v30a is lollipop open while v30d is for branded G2's.
(I've read that this site is not allowed by Xda moderators, so if I can't post it please give me info on where should we download kdz's from).
2.3 I think it's all pure logic now but lets say it one more time. You have downloaded kdz file, and put it inside LG Flashtool folder. You should now start Flashtool and get your phone into Download mode. To do this you need to hold volume up button on turned off device and connect usb cable while holding volume up. Now just cse flash.
2/3 This is troubleshooting step, if you have a problem ask and i hope this great community will help you like they did to me, and ofc I will do my best to help.
3. Now we go to rooting.
Here is the thread by @avicohh which worked for my D802.
Just follow his step by step tut and you will have a rooted phone
3.1 The only issue that might happen here is you are stuck with # and adb waiting for your phone. To resolve this just go into download mode manually.
4. Okay rooting done, now let's go to custom recovery install
It's easy as installing an app from google play by @bender_007
4.1 After installing it open the app and follow the on-screen instructions. If it fails for the first time, try it few more times, it will eventually work. (OFC. I didn't install it with only one try).
4.2 To get into custom recovery hold volume down and power button till first LG sign shows up, then release both buttons and quickly press them again. It will ask you do you want to do factory reset, press yes and yes again, and it will get you to custom recovery if you installed it.
4.2.1 If you factory reset your phone that means you didn't install recovery correctly and you will lose your data, but again that should be no problem since you have that backup from the start.
Now optional steps:
5. Install system app remover to remove bloatware from your phone. You can do it manually but this way you will have those apps backed up.
6. Next suggestion is to install a few mods if you need them. In my case I had to have a Plug and pop, since it is lost from Lollipop and I loved that feature. Here is a thread on how to install that mod by @p_a_r_s_a7
//That's all, if you have any questions feel free to ask, since there is no dumb questions, but also try to read carefully before//
Thanks to:
@quangnhut123
@avicohh
@p_a_r_s_a7
@bender_007
A lot of others whose names i can't remember. If anyone else needs to be mentioned PM me and i will add you in this section.
I will add pictures and stuff if needed
Thanks, good all-in-one thread, + easiest methods. Ill recommend it‚to others
This forum is such a mess that a thread like this is like a fresh breath of air. Every advice given on other threads references something that you should already know how it's done, or you should already have done to your phone in the past and have a certain version of it, or non-working tools that are only around for a few months until an update makes them unusable.
No wonder that most of the first-page topics, including pinned ones, have the word "brick" in the title. This should signal the forum moderators that something is wrong around here.
My phone is stock international sim-free G2, never rooted or otherwise modified and yet no one was able to offer a coherent solution of how to update to Lollipop, until your post.
So, thanks for this thread.
Thank you, that is exactly why i made the thread. Every one of those threads has everything explained, but you need to search theough 150 pages to understand how something is done. That's why i wanted to make a thread with all explanations made in a single post and to make it noob friendly since the worst thing that happens in other threads is answer like use a search you have it somewhere.
Hi,
Thanks for the thread. It really helps noobs like me, but I still have a couple of questions...
I was running Paranoid Android L rom with root, twrp and kk bootloader on My D802.
I didn't see this thread before I decided to downgrade back to 4.2.2 stock rom, and now I don't really know what steps to take.(I have kernel version 3..4.0 and build number JDQ39B)
I haven't seen an OTA available, so I was thinking of flashing new Lollipop rom kdz file. But I've been seeing stuff about using LG PC suite to upgrade via OTA so i wasn't sure.
So my main question is that do I do an OTA upgrade on my current 4.2.2 stock rom or do I download an official Lollipop rom? Can you give me a brief idea of the steps to take?
Thanks
seyio said:
Hi,
Thanks for the thread. It really helps noobs like me, but I still have a couple of questions...
I was running Paranoid Android L rom with root, twrp and kk bootloader on My D802.
I didn't see this thread before I decided to downgrade back to 4.2.2 stock rom, and now I don't really know what steps to take.(I have kernel version 3..4.0 and build number JDQ39B)
I haven't seen an OTA available, so I was thinking of flashing new Lollipop rom kdz file. But I've been seeing stuff about using LG PC suite to upgrade via OTA so i wasn't sure.
So my main question is that do I do an OTA upgrade on my current 4.2.2 stock rom or do I download an official Lollipop rom? Can you give me a brief idea of the steps to take?
Thanks
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Updating through pc suite or ota is the best way if it is available to you. Flashing kdz is the same thing but that is doing it manually while through pc auite nad ota is pretty much automatic. Anyways which ever way you decide to use be sure to fully charge your battery and factory reset acter the update. If you need anything else feel free to ask
[email protected]$o said:
Updating through pc suite or ota is the best way if it is available to you. Flashing kdz is the same thing but that is doing it manually while through pc auite nad ota is pretty much automatic. Anyways which ever way you decide to use be sure to fully charge your battery and factory reset acter the update. If you need anything else feel free to ask
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Do I flash KK bootloader or root before I update through ota?
seyio said:
Do I flash KK bootloader or root before I update through ota?
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No need to flash bootloader if you didnt flash it for paranoid android. And definitely no need to root since you can root after update.
Problems with flashing KDZ
I have downloaded Spain Lolipop KDZ file for LG G2 D802.
Have backed up everything usint TWRP> ( Presently on Optimus G3 rom v 1.4.1 with dorimanx kernel and TWRP )
I have copied the KDZ file to the flash tool. When i use CSE flash .. it takes me to the next page .. in which I click on Start which then opens up the LG Mobile support tool.
Then it shows detecting ur phone .. unpacking or extracting file .. after that shows software updating .. reaches 2 % and then shows error .. asks me to retry .
Do you know what I am doing wrong ? or the cause of this prob ?
http://i58.tinypic.com/15rk2eo.png
sankeerth24 said:
I have downloaded Spain Lolipop KDZ file for LG G2 D802.
Have backed up everything usint TWRP> ( Presently on Optimus G3 rom v 1.4.1 with dorimanx kernel and TWRP )
I have copied the KDZ file to the flash tool. When i use CSE flash .. it takes me to the next page .. in which I click on Start which then opens up the LG Mobile support tool.
Then it shows detecting ur phone .. unpacking or extracting file .. after that shows software updating .. reaches 2 % and then shows error .. asks me to retry .
Do you know what I am doing wrong ? or the cause of this prob ?
http://i58.tinypic.com/15rk2eo.png
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Had the same problem when flashing kitkat kdz. Are you sure that you have pasted kdzfile inside flashtool. If that is not the problem try other kdz. That helped me
Where are you from and more specifically whhere your phone is from so i can maybe help you with finding right kdz. And btw i think you might have a problem when trying to restore that backup so if you still can backup your phone manually or on the cloud.
[email protected]$o said:
Had the same problem when flashing kitkat kdz. Are you sure that you have pasted kdzfile inside flashtool. If that is not the problem try other kdz. That helped me
Where are you from and more specifically whhere your phone is from so i can maybe help you with finding right kdz. And btw i think you might have a problem when trying to restore that backup so if you still can backup your phone manually or on the cloud.
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I have restored the complete back up using TWRP .... Yes i have already pasted kdz in the same folder of flash tool...still no change .. now downloading D802 20H firmware to flash stock n den again try KDZ
I have seen that some guys who had the same problem resolved it with disconnecting from network
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sankeerth24 said:
I have restored the complete back up using TWRP .... Yes i have already pasted kdz in the same folder of flash tool...still no change .. now downloading D802 20H firmware to flash stock n den again try KDZ
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http://www.1x1a.com/fixlg-flash-tool-stuck-at-2.html
Or maybe try this. I havent tried it so i cant promise anything but if you want you can try. Hope it helps
[email protected]$o said:
No need to flash bootloader if you didnt flash it for paranoid android. And definitely no need to root since you can root after update.
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Hi again..
OTA update to Lollipop has failed on my D802, LG PC Suite only upgraded me from Android 4.2.2 to 4.4.2, so can anyone help me out here?
Am I missing something for OTA update? If not, then which lollipop kdz can I download for my phone so that I can flash? I live in UK and i use a 3 UK sim if that helps
but also, In the process of trying to boot into my previously installed TWRP recovery, I discovered that i have been restored to stock recovery. I have rooted the phone, but just wanted to clarify: I flash custom recovery, then bootloader/kernel then lollipop kdz?
Thanks again
seyio said:
Hi again..
OTA update to Lollipop has failed on my D802, LG PC Suite only upgraded me from Android 4.2.2 to 4.4.2, so can anyone help me out here?
Am I missing something for OTA update? If not, then which lollipop kdz can I download for my phone so that I can flash? I live in UK and i use a 3 UK sim if that helps
but also, In the process of trying to boot into my previously installed TWRP recovery, I discovered that i have been restored to stock recovery. I have rooted the phone, but just wanted to clarify: I flash custom recovery, then bootloader/kernel then lollipop kdz?
Thanks again
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I am not sure but i think that update for the uk didnt come out yet. so you can't update to lollipop yet via pc suite or ota. and you got it all wrong. first you flash lollipop kdz but you will have to try out few of them since official for uk didn't come out yet, after that you root, and then flash custom recovery.
and as previously you will be back to stock recovery after update. you have it all explained step by step in first post. i know it is a bit long but that is the best way, since i didn't want to write stuff like "you should know that" and so on. so just follow the first post and you will be happy, or wait for official uk update over the ota you will be happy too, and i guess it should come out in a month.
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I am not sure but i think that update for the uk didnt come out yet. so you can't update to lollipop yet via pc suite or ota. and you got it all wrong. first you flash lollipop kdz but you will have to try out few of them since official for uk didn't come out yet, after that you root, and then flash custom recovery.
and as previously you will be back to stock recovery after update. you have it all explained step by step in first post. i know it is a bit long but that is the best way, since i didn't want to write stuff like "you should know that" and so on. so just follow the first post and you will be happy, or wait for official uk update over the ota you will be happy too, and i guess it should come out in a month.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
I'll download all the lollipop kdz's and see which one of them works for me till the UK one comes out then I'll just do a normal flash over it.
But seriously, one month for the UK ota :crying: Right now, I don't even know which is worse: Google that takes forever to release updates with so many bugs, or Apple who generally release better stable updates but make older devices laggy...
Thanks again for all the help.
seyio said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
I'll download all the lollipop kdz's and see which one of them works for me till the UK one comes out then I'll just do a normal flash over it.
But seriously, one month for the UK ota :crying: Right now, I don't even know which is worse: Google that takes forever to release updates with so many bugs, or Apple who generally release better stable updates but make older devices laggy...
Thanks again for all the help.
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its a good update, not that buggy, and be sure to fully charge your battery before the process. you should try europe open or something like that, but there is no german or uk release yet and some guys suspect it is slowed down because they found out bugs in other versions
After CSE Flashing my d802 with a 30a, it got stock on lg logo screen, then an android screen with "erasing" on bottom, then lg screen. I let it sit for 4 hrs but nothing happened. Im back to stock kitkat atm. A little help please.
fernievidal said:
After CSE Flashing my d802 with a 30a, it got stock on lg logo screen, then an android screen with "erasing" on bottom, then lg screen. I let it sit for 4 hrs but nothing happened. Im back to stock kitkat atm. A little help please.
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Where from is your phone? Are you sure you flashed right kdz? Did lollipop even turn off? DidCSE flashing finished sucessfully? I would like to help you, but i cant if you dont explainme what is your problem. I am not some pro who faced every error on every phoneso please explain a bit more
And i suppose that erasing screen could have been factory reset on stock recovery
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Where from is your phone? Are you sure you flashed right kdz? Did lollipop even turn off? DidCSE flashing finished sucessfully? I would like to help you, but i cant if you dont explainme what is your problem. I am not some pro who faced every error on every phoneso please explain a bit more
And i suppose that erasing screen could have been factory reset on stock recovery
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I believe mine is an international version. Where it came from, well, I'm from the Philippines and I got my phone from a local telecom, Globe.
The flash tool said that it was successfully upgraded, but judging from the phone's behavior I think there's something wrong. My phone never started successfully, and I got stuck in the LG logo.
Recently I Rooted My Sprint G3 Lolipop. Had no Issues there. Then I wanted to install TWRP, So I downloaded AutoRec, waited for the app to confirm everything and installed it. When I turned my phone off and tried to reboot into recovery, it Gives me a screen that has the LG Logo and it says Security Error and turns back off. I can still go into download mode but thats all I can do.
Ive read the other posts for this problem but i havent found one for my specific Phone.
Can anybody please help me with step by step Instructions?? Im still not super expirenced in rooting phones and the other phones I have rooted have always been successful..
Sprint LG G3 5.0.1
LS990ZVC
Heres a link to that same problem. The member experiencing the issue fixed it by flashing a .tot file from a previous ZV version he went from ZVA to ZV4 u should be able to do that i believe by using the 2014 lg flash tool, look it up. While i dont like flashing different ZV versions myself i think u might be safe for the most part.
Me personally think but might be wrong so dont quote me.. Lol but i would flash using a ZVB tot/kdz in the 2014 flash tool and i believe the lg support tool will then upgrade u back to ZVC if not the LGUPtool i mean your taking it from a noob but i think i stand correct here lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3/help/help-security-error-t3177905
Thanks. Actually didn't even waste my time on it. I still flash and do everything else with my phone. Found out it was a authentication code or something like that. Thanks for the reply back though!!!
I've used the KDZ method successfully to return to stock several times but now I have to do a warranty exchange and Verizon won't send the replacement phone because they claim they can see I didn't take any updates. So now I have to go back to stock but I can't use KDZ because the charging port is the flaky part so I can't connect to the PC. What if any alternate methods can I use?
On a related note, I am guessing the replacement will have most if not all of the latest updates and from what I've read I can no longer use Stump Root to root the phone. Alternatives?
gospodinwizard said:
I've used the KDZ method successfully to return to stock several times but now I have to do a warranty exchange and Verizon won't send the replacement phone because they claim they can see I didn't take any updates. So now I have to go back to stock but I can't use KDZ because the charging port is the flaky part so I can't connect to the PC. What if any alternate methods can I use?
On a related note, I am guessing the replacement will have most if not all of the latest updates and from what I've read I can no longer use Stump Root to root the phone. Alternatives?
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Unfortunately, KDZ or TOT require the USB port. And those are the only way to return to full stock.
If you have root and TWRP now, I can make you a flashable zip that contains all the stock 47A partitions, including recovery, so once you'd boot out of custom recovery you'd be back to stock. I can't guarantee that it would say "Official" instead of "Modified" in the About menu, though. I also can't guarantee that the phone won't be bricked somehow, either. All the risk is on you.
Stump is still the way to go, you just have to downgrade to 10B using the TOT method and the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ. Both the TOT and correct .DLL are up in my Android File Host link at the bottom of the first post of @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section, or in my signature below.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
If you have root and TWRP now, I can make you a flashable zip that contains all the stock 47A partitions, including recovery, so once you'd boot out of custom recovery you'd be back to stock. I can't guarantee that it would say "Official" instead of "Modified" in the About menu, though. I also can't guarantee that the phone won't be bricked somehow, either. All the risk is on you.
Stump is still the way to go, you just have to downgrade to 10B using the TOT method and the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ. Both the TOT and correct .DLL are up in my Android File Host link at the bottom of the first post of @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section, or in my signature below.
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The good news is I fiddled with USB enough to be able to successfully flash the 10B KDZ again. The weird news is that when I went to check for system updates, I was politely told my phone was up-to-date at 10B. Makes no sense to me and I'm not sure what to do about it. Any thoughts? The only reason I care about the updates is Verizon swore they wouldn't send out a replacement until I took updates. I.e. their complaint was that I hadn't taken any updates.
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The good news is I fiddled with USB enough to be able to successfully flash the 10B KDZ again. The weird news is that when I went to check for system updates, I was politely told my phone was up-to-date at 10B. Makes no sense to me and I'm not sure what to do about it. Any thoughts? The only reason I care about the updates is Verizon swore they wouldn't send out a replacement until I took updates. I.e. their complaint was that I hadn't taken any updates.
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It's normal and common that after flashing a TOT or KDZ that it says no updates for hours or even a day or so. Eventually, as long as you have an activated Verizon SIM inserted, it'll get updates. It won't without the SIM so if you already are using the SIM in a backup phone, that's another reason why.
If your USB were reliable, I'd suggest flashing the 47A KDZ, but I would recommend against it at this point.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
It's normal and common that after flashing a TOT or KDZ that it says no updates for hours or even a day or so. Eventually, as long as you have an activated Verizon SIM inserted, it'll get updates. It won't without the SIM so if you already are using the SIM in a backup phone, that's another reason why.
If your USB were reliable, I'd suggest flashing the 47A KDZ, but I would recommend against it at this point.
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Good point about 47A. Especially since their complaint was I hadn't taken any updates I want to be to say I actually took an OTA so I've got 24B on it now and I'll give it a day and see what shows up.
Glad to see you got it flashed back to stock.
Also, I should have asked this before, but are you using the original cable that came with the phone or a different one? It could be the cable itself is bad. Have you tried several different cables? Also, make sure you are not hooking up to USB 3.0 ports. I believe those won't work or don't work well with this phone. I could be wrong.
Or it could be the USB port is loose on your phone causing the issue. In that case, that's a hard one to get to work other than what you tried, which is jiggling and fiddling with it.
In any case, it appears you are good to go. Just because you haven't taken the latest OTAs shouldn't prevent them from taking the phone back IMHO but who knows.
Or, as @roirraW "edor" ehT stated, you can wait a few days and it should get the OTA eventually. I've usually found that after flashing TOT or KDZ, I get the notice right away.
iBolski said:
Glad to see you got it flashed back to stock.
Also, I should have asked this before, but are you using the original cable that came with the phone or a different one? It could be the cable itself is bad. Have you tried several different cables? Also, make sure you are not hooking up to USB 3.0 ports. I believe those won't work or don't work well with this phone. I could be wrong.
Or it could be the USB port is loose on your phone causing the issue. In that case, that's a hard one to get to work other than what you tried, which is jiggling and fiddling with it.
In any case, it appears you are good to go. Just because you haven't taken the latest OTAs shouldn't prevent them from taking the phone back IMHO but who knows.
Or, as @roirraW "edor" ehT stated, you can wait a few days and it should get the OTA eventually. I've usually found that after flashing TOT or KDZ, I get the notice right away.
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Want to make sure I clearly understand. Now that I have the replacement phone up and running, I use the flash tool and flash 7b._VS985_LGUP8974.dll_-_From_stock_35B-47A_TOT_back_to_10B_using_this_DLL.7z to get back to back to 10B and then use Stump to reroot?
gospodinwizard said:
Want to make sure I clearly understand. Now that I have the replacement phone up and running, I use the flash tool and flash 7b._VS985_LGUP8974.dll_-_From_stock_35B-47A_TOT_back_to_10B_using_this_DLL.7z to get back to back to 10B and then use Stump to reroot?
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No. That's only the .DLL. You also need the .TOT file, which I have the same place as that .DLL, and you need to extract them from the .7Z (7-Zip) archive with the free www.7-zip.org. See the last two posts of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/lg-g3-vs98547a-downgrade-t3354241/page3#post67731364.
Yes, Stump's brute force option, then TWRP Manager to put TWRP on, then wipe Cache, Dalvik/ART, Data, flash the ROM you want and then the appropriate Bootstack for the ROM you're flashing.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
No. That's only the .DLL. You also need the .TOT file, which I have the same place as that .DLL, and you need to extract them from the .7Z (7-Zip) archive with the free www.7-zip.org. See the last two posts of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/lg-g3-vs98547a-downgrade-t3354241/page3#post67731364.
Yes, Stump's brute force option, then TWRP Manager to put TWRP on, then wipe Cache, Dalvik/ART, Data, flash the ROM you want and then the appropriate Bootstack for the ROM you're flashing.
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OK finally got back to this. I have the flash tool and LGUP8974.dll and VS98510B_01.kdz. In the flash tool I see nowhere to specify a dll to use so that makes me a little nervous. The directory with the flash tool executable has other dll's in it already but none have the same name as the dll I downloaded. Do I just drop the downloaded dll in that directory and flash the 10B KDZ or is there something I'm missing? Clearly I'm erring on the side of caution here. Sorry for all the questions but I rather ask alot and get it right than damage anything.
My bad not the KDZ but this: 7a._VS98510B_03.TOT-4.4.2-KitKat-MD5_hash_inside-(official-will_get_OTAs_-_file_inside_is_mistakenly_named_Jellybean).7z
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OK finally got back to this. I have the flash tool and LGUP8974.dll and VS98510B_01.kdz. In the flash tool I see nowhere to specify a dll to use so that makes me a little nervous. The directory with the flash tool executable has other dll's in it already but none have the same name as the dll I downloaded. Do I just drop the downloaded dll in that directory and flash the 10B KDZ or is there something I'm missing? Clearly I'm erring on the side of caution here. Sorry for all the questions but I rather ask alot and get it right than damage anything.
My bad not the KDZ but this: 7a._VS98510B_03.TOT-4.4.2-KitKat-MD5_hash_inside-(official-will_get_OTAs_-_file_inside_is_mistakenly_named_Jellybean).7z
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It doesn't matter where the separate .DLL is, or the TOT. When you launch the tool you browse to the locations of them. If you already got the different megalock.dll and replaced the one in the installation directory then you're good to go. I don't think there's any danger, if something's not right it won't flash anything so there's no chance of damage from that anyway. There's directions for the TOT method all over including in the non-Verizon G3 General section. The instructions are the same no matter what device, just use that TOT and .DLL, and the driver's for the VS985 instead of whatever ones the guide you use specify. In all cases it's the same flash program and replacement megalock.dll as far as I've been able to tell.
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It doesn't matter where the separate .DLL is, or the TOT. When you launch the tool you browse to the locations of them. If you already got the different megalock.dll and replaced the one in the installation directory then you're good to go. I don't think there's any danger, if something's not right it won't flash anything so there's no chance of damage from that anyway. There's directions for the TOT method all over including in the non-Verizon G3 General section. The instructions are the same no matter what device, just use that TOT and .DLL, and the driver's for the VS985 instead of whatever ones the guide you use specify. In all cases it's the same flash program and replacement megalock.dll as far as I've been able to tell.
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Well see here's what is confusing me. I have the flash tool and have used it many times for KDZ's. However, there is no spot in there that lets me specify a particular dll AND it only browses for
.kdz and .cab files. .... .tot doesn't appear to even be an option. The only two files I downloaded were the TOT and dll for going back to 10 B that you pointed. It leaves me wondering if something is amiss with the flash tool I have. I am operating under the assumption that my objective is to flash the TOT file as I would previously flashed a KDZ but the flash tool I have wont even select a TOT file or a dll for that matter.
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Well see here's what is confusing me. I have the flash tool and have used it many times for KDZ's. However, there is no spot in there that lets me specify a particular dll AND it only browses for
.kdz and .cab files. .... .tot doesn't appear to even be an option. The only two files I downloaded were the TOT and dll for going back to 10 B that you pointed. It leaves me wondering if something is amiss with the flash tool I have. I am operating under the assumption that my objective is to flash the TOT file as I would previously flashed a KDZ but the flash tool I have wont even select a TOT file or a dll for that matter.
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The Flash Tool 2014 is for KDZs only. If you Google for "TOT method", you'll find instructions and links to a different flash program, and also to the megalock.dll that you need to replace the one that the program comes with when you install it. Find a TOT method thread and you'll get all the information and screenshots you need of what you need.
I'm getting a new g3 this week. I know the first thing the phone will do when I activate it is to do the OTAs. I want to root my phone. I want to know at which point do I stop the OTAs so I don't get stuck with unroot able version. I know the latest version, 6.0 is not root able. I do want to accidentally go to far.
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Don't take any OTAs at all if you can help it. It could come with 47A already, some other user's have recently.
Usually you can downgrade to 10B via the TOT method using the .DLL that's extracted from the 35B KDZ (both available from my Android File Host link at the bottom of the first post of @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section, or in my signature below.
Root is easiest with the Stump app on XDA with its brute force option and that only works on 10B, then use TWRP Manager to install TWRP, and that part is only that easy on 12B and below
@R-T-B has found evidence that if under your battery the model number has a K at the end like VS985WK, then you might not be able to downgrade at all, so no permanent root.
Kingroot works even on 47A but it's highly suspicious and deeply ingrains itself into your system even more than is necessary for root, and with it you have to reroot after every reboot, rooting requires Internet every time, and it might be sharing your private information in the background.
If you do try to downgrade and brick, especially if you have the "K" model number, @R-T-B has a new debrick thread in the General section with modifications to previously available methods to at least get the phone working back on 47A.
This my first lg phone so I'm not a noob when it comes to rooting, I'm unfamiliar with some of lg terms. I've had moto and Samsung in the past.
So when the phone arrives I am going to post the current versions of everything and see if someone can guide me through the bes way to root, get twrp and flash a rom if I had to.
And yes, I have two threads on here. I have a thread to try and figure out out to unbrick a somewhat bricked g3 and this thread to make sure I don't do the same thing to the new phone.
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So when the phone arrives I am going to post the current versions of everything and see if someone can guide me through the bes way to root, get twrp and flash a rom if I had to.
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The best way is the same (what I replied previous) no matter what version.
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The best way is the same (what I replied previous) no matter what version.
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So if I am on 10b, I can root with stump, flash twrp with twrp manager and I'm good to go? I can flash rooms even if they are based on new versions like MM?
So the only hard thing is if I'm past 10b and/or the device is already on MM.
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So if I am on 10b, I can root with stump, flash twrp with twrp manager and I'm good to go? I can flash rooms even if they are based on new versions like MM?
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Yes to both. Highly unlikely it'll come with 10B, and very likely it'll come with 47A or at least 35B.
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The best way is the same (what I replied previous) no matter what version.
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so my new g3 had 35b on it.
i've followed the guide to flash down to 10 b, i get an error in the lg tool that says upgrade stopped due to an error. then it gives instructions on trying again..
simpson1190 said:
so my new g3 had 35b on it.
i've followed the guide to flash down to 10 b, i get an error in the lg tool that says upgrade stopped due to an error. then it gives instructions on trying again..
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You're using the new .DLL I directed you to? If you downloaded the TOT and .DLL from my Android File Host link, did you use 7-Zip to extract the files out of .7z archives you downloaded? Are you using the original USB cable (hopefully it came with the OEM one)? Installed the latest drivers from LG's website for the VS985 and then rebooted with the phone disconnected from the PC? Connected the phone in Download mode to a USB 2.0 port that comes directly off the motherboard on the PC (not USB 3.x and not through a USB hub)?
You changed the port # of the correct device - the one in the Port section, not the one in the Modem section, right?
Once the TOT flashing software gets to certain point where you think it's just going to "continue" on it's own but it doesn't, did you try unplugging the cable from the phone, wait five seconds, and then plug it back in, and wait up to a minute or more while the software should then start the flash in earnest?
Lastly, sometimes trying a different PC does the trick.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You're using the new .DLL I directed you to? If you downloaded the TOT and .DLL from my Android File Host link, did you use 7-Zip to extract the files out of .7z archives you downloaded? Are you using the original USB cable (hopefully it came with the OEM one)? Installed the latest drivers from LG's website for the VS985 and then rebooted with the phone disconnected from the PC? Connected the phone in Download mode to a USB 2.0 port that comes directly off the motherboard on the PC (not USB 3.x and not through a USB hub)?
You changed the port # of the correct device - the one in the Port section, not the one in the Modem section, right?
Once the TOT flashing software gets to certain point where you think it's just going to "continue" on it's own but it doesn't, did you try unplugging the cable from the phone, wait five seconds, and then plug it back in, and wait up to a minute or more while the software should then start the flash in earnest?
Lastly, sometimes trying a different PC does the trick.
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the post you pointed me to has the KDZ file not the TOT file. It does reference a thread to downgrade via TOT file but that thread doesn't have the download links on it anymore. http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/restore-verizon-to-stock-t2827878
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the post you pointed me to has the KDZ file not the TOT file. It does reference a thread to downgrade via TOT file but that thread doesn't have the download links on it anymore. [/QUOTE]
My Android File Host link...d has all the KDZs, and the TOT and the .DLL.
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My Android File Host link at the bottom of the first post of that thread has all the KDZs, and the TOT and the .DLL.
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ok i found your files and I"m downloading them now. I have downloaded the flash tool and it wants a username and password. found a work around that involves turning off the internet and resetting the date on the computer. Is this the best way to flash a tot or did i not download the correct tool?
i give up....i get an error when using the tot that it didn't load. i even looked into the LGup tool and it says i have an unknown model. maybe this tool is not for the g3
f it. i'm doing the ota to MM, i like the phone with stock unrooted. so it's not worth this headache. Maybe the problem is I am on windows 10. But it is the only computer I have. If I every have a chance to use a win 7 computer, maybe I will try. With what I read, I should be able to downgrade to 10b from MM using the same methods.
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i give up....i get an error when using the tot that it didn't load. i even looked into the LGup tool and it says i have an unknown model. maybe this tool is not for the g3
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f it. i'm doing the ota to MM, i like the phone with stock unrooted. so it's not worth this headache. Maybe the problem is I am on windows 10. But it is the only computer I have. If I every have a chance to use a win 7 computer, maybe I will try. With what I read, I should be able to downgrade to 10b from MM using the same methods.
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LGUp doesn't work with the VS985. The second post of the LGUp thread details what to use for Verizon G3s.
Windows 10 works fine. As long as your PCB (printed circuit board) in your particular phone isn't v2 (you'd have to look in @R-T-B 's thread in the General section as far as where to look on the board to find the "2" or "1", etc), then yes the downgrade method is the same from 47A. If you happen to have a newer revision of the VS985 then putting Marshmallow on will keep it from being downgraded any longer. This is a fairly recent development (last week or two) that this has been noticed in such detail.
If it is revision 2 of the PCB, then you won't be able to downgrade from 47A at all.
What you mean with "unrooteable" ?
If we like rooteable devices, why still people stay paying these "unrooteable" devices?
Its time to IMPOSE for CHITTY GOGLE INC to create REAL LINUX ADM ROOTED devices or STOP BUYING THESE DAMN CHITS!
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What you mean with "unrooteable" ?
If we like rooteable devices, why still people stay paying these "unrooteable" devices?
Its time to IMPOSE for CHITTY GOGLE INC to create REAL LINUX ADM ROOTED devices or STOP BUYING THESE DAMN CHITS!
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Personally, I love my G3, but I'm with you. I won't buy another LG product until they lose their root/custom firmware unfriendly stance.
The Google in says "Google is your friend"
so, A friendly acceptable device, is being distributable by them?
We have years Forcing, imposing, root on all SIMPLY ALL these "friendly" devices.
How we believe on their phrase?
I only believe, the UNIX AND LINUX GPL ARE BEING PAID FOR THEIR "FRIENDISM".
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