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For those of you that want to get a 64gb model, what do you plan on using it for that justifies the extra cost?
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i am a pilot and like to carry approach plates and charts for the entire us. I know i could get a microsd but i already have a nearly full class 10 32gb microSD so its just more space.
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For those of you that want to get a 64gb model, what do you plan on using it for that justifies the extra cost?
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I think this is a no brainer really. a 64gb micro SD card is like what $200+, to get 96gb on a 32gb model would be quite expensive, but if you get a 64gb model and then add a 32gb card, it would work out less.
and if you have a lot of full hi-def movies on a tablet, to take full advantage of the hi-res screen, you won't fit many films on a 32gb card.
Gobs of media files - music and pdf manuals largely. While wifi coverage grows daily, I'm not in a major metropolitan area so finding coverage can be a challenge. The cloud is great - if you can get at it.
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Why do people buy 32gb?
I ordered the 64GB version because I can, I say it's better with to much space then to little. And I don't want to come in that position that I don't have enough space, don't like when I get limited because of the hardware.
videos and music is the main use. I first thought on to buy the 32GB + MicroSD card, but with MicroSD you are limited to 4GB files and that is not good when most of the movies are bigger then 4GB. (can be wrong about this)
And was there something wrong with this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19853926
[Q] Why 64GB?
B/C $100 for double the disk space is a good deal.... and I'm not constrained by my budget... so why wouldn't I get it?
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If you need to have 96 gb or more its better. It depends on what your using it for. Those who are buying 32gb I think have a very specific use in mind and know how much space they need or are just going to use it as a media consumption device.
Those that are buying the 64gb version probably fit in 3 camps:
1) can afford the space so why not?
2) are using it for work and know/need/want to make sure that they have all of their materials at hand if they have no connectivity (I need geo maps, research papers, my own work, and entertainment on the device.) and don't want to lug or power a portable device.
3) Commuters who want to have access to a large selection of media on the device.
I personally would love to have a 128gb chip or a few of them and dump my bulky external drive. Though I think their price is a little high yet. 1tb would give me wet dreams. (my current ext hd)
Though I do amit that even if I didn't think I had the need for 64gb I would have bought it as you can never add more to the device itself. Say if you buy 32gb and need 128 your spending more than if you bought 64gb and 64gb chip. Barring the fact that you carry a collection of chips.
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I'm just trying to think of whether I would be able to make use of the extra space. I don't think "why not?" or "because I can" are good reasons
I feel like maybe there are some useful/cool things I could do with the prime if I had extra space, but I'm still not sure what that is. I only have like ~8 gigs of music. I don't feel like I need a large media library on my device, since I'll know the 1 or 2 things I want to watch at any given time.
Using it as a general storage device might be interesting though.
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I'm just trying to think of whether I would be able to make use of the extra space. I don't think "why not?" or "because I can" are good reasons
I feel like maybe there are some useful/cool things I could do with the prime if I had extra space, but I'm still not sure what that is. I only have like ~8 gigs of music. I don't feel like I need a large media library on my device, since I'll know the 1 or 2 things I want to watch at any given time.
Using it as a general storage device might be interesting though.
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Sounds like you might be better with a 32gb version then. Just think of all you would want to put on it get an estimated size then how close are you to 32gb if you break it I would buy the 64gb if you don't come close a 32 with an sdhc for expansion would be good I think.
I also think because I can can be a valid reason, think of it like this at the price the difference is not much for double the storage. Personally being a dink(double income no kids) the extra cost is nothing but the cost of not buying what I need can be the difference between having a useful device with no extra work to a useful device that I have to manage what sdhc cards have want info, loaded, and hope I don't loose the other cards. Just dont forget the oppurnity cost of the device.
I don't get why people think $100 extra is a fair deal for the 64GB.
An Samsung 32GB Class 10 card is €30 in Holland, while we pay €100 extra for the 64GB version.
Because I need more than 128gb I think a >=96gb chip is more than 100? And 100$ just is not that much to me.
Well future devices will have up to 128GB of flash storage. It was just released a couple weeks back or so that they finally made it possible.
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I don't get why people think $100 extra is a fair deal for the 64GB.
An Samsung 32GB Class 10 card is €30 in Holland, while we pay €100 extra for the 64GB version.
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I don't get why I should have to justify why I want the 64 GB model.... if there was a $1000 limited edition one, I would have got that one, b/c I can.
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I don't get why I should have to justify why I want the 64 GB model.... if there was a $1000 limited edition one, I would have got that one, b/c I can.
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Dude, if you like needlessly throwing money at things just because you can, feel free to throw a little my way
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I don't get why people think $100 extra is a fair deal for the 64GB.
An Samsung 32GB Class 10 card is €30 in Holland, while we pay €100 extra for the 64GB version.
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to get 96gb on a 32gb model would be quite expensive as a 64gb card is $200+, but if you get a 64gb model and then add a 32gb card, it would work out less.
and if you have a lot of full hi-def movies on a tablet, to take full advantage of the hi-res screen, you won't fit many films on a 32gb card.
Do you stream or do you store? Storing music, even if you have a large library, doesn't chew up tons of storage. Video, especially high-profile, does. Plex and PlayOn pretty much eliminate the need to store video locally. I only store stuff when I know I'm going to be on long plane flights without Wi-Fi.
I've got about 2K Rhapsody downloads on my 32GB and a couple of local MKV videos and am using less than half the storage. More is always better and once you buy it you can't go back but it's also kind of stupid to piss money away (no matter how much you claim to have) on something you're not going to use. And it looks like January for the 64GB's so that's something to consider too.
I'm the one who created the other thread. I finally decided for the 64GB for the following reasons:
-I can (i mean, it's not a real effort to pay the extra)
-Now i don't see the real need for the 64Gb, but i don't know if i will need them in the time i have it, as it's my first tablet. Having the 64Gb means if in the future i need the extra storage, i will have it. Having the 32Gb would mean the need to buy extra microSD cards.
-I travel a lot, and sometimes for long time. SD cards are fine, but internal storage means faster reads and less problems (like forgetting the sd or having it lost/broken for any reason)
-I plan on using it for a little gaming too, if the games start to need more space, i will already have it and not depend on the sd card. I hate having to watch which apps I can have or not have due to space in my Nexus One.
-I have a dSLR so i'd like to use it too for pic displaying and very basic editing if needed (with the dock + sd cards). This pics are quite huge (10mb each, ~30mb if shot in raw), so moving a few of them to the internal storage (for using without the dock) would be quite space consuming.
-Having a 32gb microsd card means 96gb instead of 64, which further expands this capabilities.
I can't depend either on music/video streaming. Most music I like isn't in cloud services and Google Music isn't available in Spain. My internet connection is pretty bad, and the router is even worse, with ocasional and random wifi disconnections.
With all this in mind, i just prefer spending a few more € on the 64gb and not fall short in some weeks.
Oh, i forgot the main reason. To stand up in the top of the mountain and laugh at the 32gb people
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I'm not constrained by my budget... so why wouldn't I get it?
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Swiftks said:
I don't get why I should have to justify why I want the 64 GB model.... if there was a $1000 limited edition one, I would have got that one, b/c I can.
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-I can (i mean, it's not a real effort to pay the extra)
Oh, i forgot the main reason. To stand up in the top of the mountain and laugh at the 32gb people
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It's fantastic that you both have the resources. It's incredibly ostentatious that, for whatever reason, you feel the need to share it with others that may not be in your position. Between this and the post in the BB thread where someone's order got canceled because of a debit card issue and some schmuck posted "I don't need to worry, my credit card has no limit" I'd say there's a lot of people on this forum who need to validate themselves.
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It's fantastic that you both have the resources. It's incredibly ostentatious that, for whatever reason, you feel the need to share it with others that may not be in your position. Between this and the post in the BB thread where someone's order got canceled because of a debit card issue and some schmuck posted "I don't need to worry, my credit card has no limit" I'd say there's a lot of people on this forum who need to validate themselves.
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That's way out of the reason i posted it. The OP is asking for reasons to get a 64 gb model over a 32gb one. Pricing is one of the possible reasons so I included it in the list just because it was an issue i considered while asking myself the same question, so it might be relevant to the OP. If i were just to try to show how proud i am of the money i have, i would remove the parenthesis (where i state that if getting the 64gb is an effort the OP should consider the 32Gb instead). The last sentence was a joke that someone posted on my the thread i created for this same reason and i liked and copied it here. You can check it if you want at the link someone posted in this thread.
I would buy the 64gb version due to the fact that on Honeycomb you can not move apps to the sd card and maybe this will change with ICS so with games taking up a lot of space the extra memory would be nice.
I deffinitely order this as soon as it comes available. The question is 16Gb or 32Gb. personally I think i will get the 16Gb model tho I know for a tablet, it's quite small. But 100$ more is a big factor here. Google has priced the 16Gb right, but the 32Gb is too expensive to my opinion.
well, google adds $50 for an additional 8gb across the nexus lineup, so it is pretty consistent.
I would go with 32GB. There is no microSD card slot and if games take more and more space nowadays - supporting 2560x1600 would raise their size even more. Unless you don't play on a tablet - then 16GB might be enough (consider though what you want to put on it - music, HD movies etc. all take space).
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I would go with 32GB. There is no microSD card slot and if games take more and more space nowadays - supporting 2560x1600 would raise their size even more. Unless you don't play on a tablet - then 16GB might be enough (consider though what you want to put on it - music, HD movies etc. all take space).
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Aside from potentially selling more 32GB priced tablets, do you know any reason why they are starting to head away from SD mounted storage? I personally don't buy the "cloud" train of thought and I'm sure people want access to their own files. But is there any technical reasons that affect system performance? I've heard about decreased OS issues without having a mount, but not sure why they take away such a valued feature.
Was thinking about gambling on the 16GB for the sweet price but will most likely cave for the 32GB.
I prefer the 16gb one as i am sure that the price diff can easily get me an otg cable and a 500gb external harddisk...
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well, google adds $50 for an additional 8gb across the nexus lineup, so it is pretty consistent.
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Except for the Nexus 7. They have dumped the 8GB model. And the 32GB model is only $50 more than the 16GB model.
Charging $100 for 16GB more storage is very 2010. Seems unreasonable to still be charging such a premium these day. But everyone else is still doing it, so Google will too I guess.
I'd like 32GB, I usually run out of space on my 16GB tablets. But I can manage the space and get by. So that is what I'll get again.
Depends if I can find some sort of NFC SD device; if I can then definitely the 16gb; if I can't then probably ... The next asus transformer.
Yes extra $100 for extra 16 gb is big factor,
since i don't really play that much on a mobile device i'd go with 16gb. I use this thing at home so i can stream whatever the F. I want from my NAS. Even on my phone i don't even fill 6GB...
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Aside from potentially selling more 32GB priced tablets, do you know any reason why they are starting to head away from SD mounted storage? I personally don't buy the "cloud" train of thought and I'm sure people want access to their own files. But is there any technical reasons that affect system performance? I've heard about decreased OS issues without having a mount, but not sure why they take away such a valued feature.
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Google makes money with their digital content sale. THey want you to stream movies, music using their service (just like Amazon). So don't ever expect an SD card slot on a nexus device...
I haven't decided. $100 for 16Gb is a lot. If it were $50 I'd get the 32.
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I haven't decided. $100 for 16Gb is a lot. If it were $50 I'd get the 32.
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yes, that'd be awesome. What would piss me off is they probably release a 64Gb model later and replace the 16Gb with the 32Gb one... just like they did with the nexus 7.
For 100$ I can do lots of things: paying for its tax, shipping fee, accessories...
Already made the 16GB mistake with the Nexus 7 and it made a negative experience so I sold it. 32GB minimum while 64GB is preferred but disappointed that there's $100 premium going from 16 to 32GB versus $50 for Nexus 7.
Maybe whoever produces Google's flash gives them discounts on it after they've had X number of 16GB chips manufactured, making 32GB cheaper and 64GB more reasonable?
Or maybe it's just that Google builds up enough of a profit from the first batch and the customers bought into the ecosystem to sell the higher capacity ones at less profit. There has to be some business type reason.
Going to order the 32GB as with a few films you can quite easily fill 16GB
Games are getting bigger and bigger too so got to go for the 32 me thinks.
I'm buying the 32GB model as well. I never even got close to filling up 64GB on my iPad 3 (which I am selling now), but 16GB will probably not be enough for me as I like to copy movies to my device for viewing on the go.
I go for 32GB. My songs (14 GB) and apps (2-4 GBs) usually take up most of the space
I have a 16GB Nexus 7 though.....bigger is better
I have a 1TB portable hard drive so I am going for the 16 gig one. Movies I will either stream or throw on the hard drive, and I still have unlimited data on my phone so everywhere is wifi.
Depend on your need,in fact,16GB is enough
About to order the N9. And I am getting pretty sick of shelling out a ton of extra cash for a little extra storage. I can get a 16gb SD card for like $10 from amazon. For $100 I can get a 160gb ssd for my computer. What makes these manufacturers think that it justified to add $100 to the price of a device for such little extra storage.
Now I will probably just go with the 16gb model as I only really plan on using it at home. I can smb or WiFi transfer anything I need. Also there are OTG solutions out there now that are very reason ably priced.
What are your thoughts?
I had a lot of similiar thoughts but ended up pre ordering the 16gb.. And im just going to buy the corsair voyager go 64gb for media.
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About to order the N9. And I am getting pretty sick of shelling out a ton of extra cash for a little extra storage. I can get a 16gb SD card for like $10 from amazon. For $100 I can get a 160gb ssd for my computer. What makes these manufacturers think that it justified to add $100 to the price of a device for such little extra storage.
Now I will probably just go with the 16gb model as I only really plan on using it at home. I can smb or WiFi transfer anything I need. Also there are OTG solutions out there now that are very reason ably priced.
What are your thoughts?
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I ended up getting the 32GB. But I thought the price is not bad due to the build quality and the specs of the device. Yes the storage is a bit disappointing but I believe this is a premium tablet. I ended up also getting this OTG USB Drive to expand the storage and thought would be great to transfer files from the phone to the tablet.
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About to order the What makes these manufacturers think that it justified to add $100 to the price of a device for such little extra storage.
What are your thoughts?
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Apple set this standard on the original iPad and people bought it. Stupid fanboys are to blame, I guess. Since you can't upgrade the storage, you're more likely to go with the higher storage model, and OEMs will gouge you.
Notice that devices with external SD storage, the models with higher internal storage are a seriously tough sell. Ask any rep. I know for a fact that Samsung doesn't even releases its high storage models in all markets.
rodrigorajao said:
Apple set this standard on the original iPad and people bought it. Stupid fanboys are to blame, I guess. Since you can't upgrade the storage, you're more likely to go with the higher storage model, and OEMs will gouge you.
Notice that devices with external SD storage, the models with higher internal storage are a seriously tough sell. Ask any rep. I know for a fact that Samsung doesn't even releases its high storage models in all markets.
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That does make sense. If it had an SD card slot I wouldn't even consider the 32gb model.
And I went ahead and ordered the 16gb model. $100 at this time is worth it for the minor inconvenience of having to use external storage every once in a while.
Considering both my N7s were running at 20+gb used it's worth the extra money to me.. A lot of people rely on cloud storage and don't need the extra space. If they would have offered a 64gb for $200 more I would have ordered that one but instead went with 32gb.
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I ended up getting the 32GB. But I thought the price is not bad due to the build quality and the specs of the device. Yes the storage is a bit disappointing but I believe this is a premium tablet. I ended up also getting this OTG USB Drive to expand the storage and thought would be great to transfer files from the phone to the tablet.
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Have you ever used a tablet with one of those things protruding a few cm from it? Not worried the extended leverage could kill your charging port (no wifi charging!) if the microsd gets bumped?
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Have you ever used a tablet with one of those things protruding a few cm from it? Not worried the extended leverage could kill your charging port (no wifi charging!) if the microsd gets bumped?
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A meenova is pretty small
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Have you ever used a tablet with one of those things protruding a few cm from it? Not worried the extended leverage could kill your charging port (no wifi charging!) if the microsd gets bumped?
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I am not worried. One thing is it will only be in to copy stuff over, not keeping it in the whole time, two there is not much else options besides getting the otg cable but I like this way better
Sandisk Dual Micro Usb OTG Usb stick - 32gb i payed $19 for with free postage, so there will be options. $100+ premium for an extra 16Gb is rediculous.
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About to order the N9. And I am getting pretty sick of shelling out a ton of extra cash for a little extra storage. I can get a 16gb SD card for like $10 from amazon. For $100 I can get a 160gb ssd for my computer. What makes these manufacturers think that it justified to add $100 to the price of a device for such little extra storage.
Now I will probably just go with the 16gb model as I only really plan on using it at home. I can smb or WiFi transfer anything I need. Also there are OTG solutions out there now that are very reason ably priced.
What are your thoughts?
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Its actually an extra $80 for another 16gb, not $100.
That makes the Nexus 9 32gb cheaper than the Nexus 10 32gb.
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Its actually an extra $80 for another 16gb, not $100.
That makes the Nexus 9 32gb cheaper than the Nexus 10 32gb.
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That depends on your region.. In Australia tablet is 479 for 16gb and 579 for 32gb so 110
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I'm in Canada. And then price difference is $100
I had ordered the 16gb from amazon but canceled due to possible supply issues. Then as I was reading xda someone mentioned roms and backups and I remembered having to move backups to pc before flashing a new rom with my phone...
I'm not much of a media person but roms/browsing/ingress primarily. Plus since I probably won't buy a new tablet in 2015 my Google play order is for the 32gb.
Consering convenience factors (doesn't take up external space/more software friendly/better IO/ doesn't use your usb port) I think it is worth it.
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Sandisk Dual Micro Usb OTG Usb stick - 32gb i payed $19 for with free postage, so there will be options. $100+ premium for an extra 16Gb is rediculous.
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Man if Google added a microsd slot.... Imagine what you could do on a powerful device the Nexus 9 is with 128gb of storage. http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Adapt...&qid=1414530126&sr=8-1&keywords=128gb+microsd
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Man if Google added a microsd slot.... Imagine what you could do on a powerful device the Nexus 9 is with 128gb of storage. http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Adapt...&qid=1414530126&sr=8-1&keywords=128gb+microsd
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Then this would be a true power house of a tablet. How can I describe it? Hmm just like a mustang but with skinny little tires. You need them god dam larger tires! ?
So as everyone knows the GS6 will be available mid April. When Samsung first announced the GS6 I was pretty certain I wanted to get it, however I've wanted a bigger screen (currently using gs4) and the more I compare the note 4 and GS6 the specs are extremely similar. My question is 1 obviously which phone should I get and 2 does the gs6 offer anything the note doesn't. I know I can get a back for the note for wireless charging so that doesn't concern me. And I don't really use my camera to much so that's another factor I'm not concerned about.
The Note 4 has a removable battery and MicroSD slot.
It also has an Spen with all its enhancing features (pen window is infinitely useful)
And a bigger screen.
And 670mAh bigger battery (and the possibility of using a Zerolemon 10.000mAh) The S6 battery is actually 250mAh smaller than that of the S5.add to that the fact that it's non-removable.... They made a massive mistake there.
Also, a Snapdragon. Exynos is pretty powerful in regular use, but it simply doesn't have enough gHz for the heavier apps, and a Mali GPU simply isn't as powerful as an Adreno for gaming.
As far as I know the S6 offers no advantages over the Note 4.
I'm a long-time Note user so maybe I'm a bit biased, but I'd go for the Note 4 without a second though.
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ShadowLea said:
The Note 4 has a removable battery and MicroSD slot.
It also has an Spen with all its enhancing features (pen window is infinitely useful)
And a bigger screen.
And 670mAh bigger battery (and the possibility of using a Zerolemon 10.000mAh) The S6 battery is actually 250mAh smaller than that of the S5.add to that the fact that it's non-removable.... They made a massive mistake there.
Also, a Snapdragon. Exynos is pretty powerful in regular use, but it simply doesn't have enough gHz for the heavier apps, and a Mali GPU simply isn't as powerful as an Adreno for gaming.
As far as I know the S6 offers no advantages over the Note 4.
I'm a long-time Note user so maybe I'm a bit biased, but I'd go for the Note 4 without a second though.
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How large is the note in the pocket? Is it easily manageable or does it take time to get used to?
Go for the S6.
1- its size is more practical for daily use.
2- much better then the Note 4 in term of performance. The combination of the new processor (64-bit too), the new RAM (DDR4) and the new UFS storage (which is much faster than emmc) looks pretty impressive.
3- more future proof, and is already optimized for android lollipop. You don't know what kind of issues/performance problems you might get after such a big upgrade, or after future updates (many phones reported worse performance and/or worse battery after the upgrade to lollipop). Why risk it? Just go for the device that's made for this version of android.
4- Better speaker, better fingerprint scanner, Samsung pay, wireless charging out of the box, ... just a better device overall. Only thing missing is the SD card (I don't think many people really make use of the removable battery option) and considering you're going to have 32GB minimum of storage (+115GB free cloud storage) and the option to buy a 64GB or 128GB version if you want, it would actually be a waste of the power this phone has in term of speed and performance to slow it down with an SD card.
5- better version of Touchwiz (much lighter with several improvements).
6- It looks better.
Depends if you want active development or not. The note 4 will have far more development then the G6
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How large is the note in the pocket? Is it easily manageable or does it take time to get used to?
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Well, I find it pretty easy to manage.
I did have to extend my pockets, but then the pockets in female jeans can't even fit a classic phone. :laugh:
It felt a bit big the first day, but after a week you won't even notice it. By then everything else will feel tiny. In terms of handling, I can manage it with one hand quite well. (Size 6 female hands, so really small hands.)
In truth the S6 isn't much smaller, the Note 4 is only slightly less than a centimeter taller and 0,8cm wider, in total. That's +-4.5 mm on either side.
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Depends if you want active development or not. The note 4 will have far more development then the G6
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What do you mean by more development?
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With the chip in the gs6 most developers won't touch it. It is very difficult due to Samsung not release documentation for the chip and it being hard to develop for.
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Go for the S6.
1- its size is more practical for daily use.
2- much better then the Note 4 in term of performance. The combination of the new processor (64-bit too), the new RAM (DDR4) and the new UFS storage (which is much faster than emmc) looks pretty impressive.
3- more future proof, and is already optimized for android lollipop. You don't know what kind of issues/performance problems you might get after such a big upgrade, or after future updates (many phones reported worse performance and/or worse battery after the upgrade to lollipop). Why risk it? Just go for the device that's made for this version of android.
4- Better speaker, better fingerprint scanner, Samsung pay, wireless charging out of the box, ... just a better device overall. Only thing missing is the SD card (I don't think many people really make use of the removable battery option) and considering you're going to have 32GB minimum of storage (+115GB free cloud storage) and the option to buy a 64GB or 128GB version if you want, it would actually be a waste of the power this phone has in term of speed and performance to slow it down with an SD card.
5- better version of Touchwiz (much lighter with several improvements).
6- It looks better.
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With the chip in the gs6 most developers won't touch it. It is very difficult due to Samsung not release documentation for the chip and it being hard to develop for.
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One thing I have never looked into or have been concerned about is bloatware. Does bloatware actually have any impact on performance? Currently I use a custom home screen and lock screen (nova launcher and hi locker). I hide all the bullcrap apps samsung and att include so I never see them and for most of them notifications are off. I know the apps take up space but that's not a huge deal since i have a micro sd. And honestly transfer speeds aren't that important since I keep all my apps on the phone memory and movies and random files on the sd card.
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One thing I have never looked into or have been concerned about is bloatware. Does bloatware actually have any impact on performance? Currently I use a custom home screen and lock screen (nova launcher and hi locker). I hide all the bullcrap apps samsung and att include so I never see them and for most of them notifications are off. I know the apps take up space but that's not a huge deal since i have a micro sd. And honestly transfer speeds aren't that important since I keep all my apps on the phone memory and movies and random files on the sd card.
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Disabling them do help, but too many needless apps do affect the performance, especially with Samsung embedding their apps deep in the system. With the S6 though they cleaned that up and only left two of their apps (S-voice and S-health) pre-installed. The concern about bloatware is performance not storage.
The SD card slows down the system more than you think because many apps do access or try to access the SD card when available. Simplest to illustrate would be the gallery app which will slow down considerably if you use an SD card. Also the camera app can't record some (very) high quality videos on SD cards (because it needs quicker write speed than SD cards allow) and will require you to switch to internal storage... etc.
The SD card imo was a good option to have when internal storage was very expensive and most devices would ship with only 8GB/16GB storage (of which less than 10 GB is accessible). But with internal storage getting cheaper (in addition to it being faster and more reliable) it's logical that the industry is making the shift towards the better experience, and even though some people (including me until recently) are still clinging to what they're used to, in this case the change is imo pretty justified (that's my opinion though).
Having said that, the best way for you to decide is to wait until you got your hand on an S6 and experience it yourself, so my advice would be wait until then and I'm pretty sure your decision will be much easier.
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Disabling them do help, but too many needless apps do affect the performance, especially with Samsung embedding their apps deep in the system. With the S6 though they cleaned that up and only left two of their apps (S-voice and S-health) pre-installed. The concern about bloatware is performance not storage.
The SD card slows down the system more than you think because many apps do access or try to access the SD card when available. Simplest to illustrate would be the gallery app which will slow down considerably if you use an SD card. Also the camera app can't record some (very) high quality videos on SD cards (because it needs quicker write speed than SD cards allow) and will require you to switch to internal storage... etc.
The SD card imo was a good option to have when internal storage was very expensive and most devices would ship with only 8GB/16GB storage (of which less than 10 GB is accessible). But with internal storage getting cheaper (in addition to it being faster and more reliable) it's logical that the industry is making the shift towards the better experience, and even though some people (including me until recently) are still clinging to what they're used to, in this case the change is imo pretty justified (that's my opinion though).
Having said that, the best way for you to decide is to wait until you got your hand on an S6 and experience it yourself, so my advice would be wait until then and I'm pretty sure your decision will be much easier.
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I think the one issue with only on board storage is that if you damage your device then you lose everything. At least with an SD card you can save the important stuff
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I think the one issue with only on board storage is that if you damage your device then you lose everything. At least with an SD card you can save the important stuff
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True (in most cases), but corrupted SD cards (which leads to losing all the info on it) is far more common than damaged devices. Two relatives of mine lost valuable data (pictures) because of SD card problems.
Also with the option of having 115 GB free of cloud storage (that comes with the S6), you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone.
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True (in most cases), but corrupted SD cards (which leads to losing all the info on it) is far more common than damaged devices. Two relatives of mine lost valuable data (pictures) because of SD card problems.
Also with the option of having 115 GB free of cloud storage (that comes with the S6), you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone.
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Not everyone has data like that. Take where I live. Going out of town and I dont even have cell signal for days.
Odd I have been using the same SD card for almost like 4 years and never had an issue.
zelendel said:
Not everyone has data like that. Take where I live. Going out of town and I dont even have cell signal for days.
Odd I have been using the same SD card for almost like 4 years and never had an issue.
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I'm not saying it happens to everyone, I'm just saying it's far more common than damaged whole devices. I haven't had a problem either with my SD card (using it for over 2 years now).
The cloud storage is an option (which I imagine most people can make use of), and it's not meant that you synchronize your data all the time, you can just do it once or twice every month when you have wireless internet. That should at least limit the loss of data because of any damage to your device. But regardless of this option, internal storage is still much more reliable than SD cards on its own.
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True (in most cases), but corrupted SD cards (which leads to losing all the info on it) is far more common than damaged devices. Two relatives of mine lost valuable data (pictures) because of SD card problems.
Also with the option of having 115 GB free of cloud storage (that comes with the S6), you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone.
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I'd really like to invite you to try my daily routine for a month. 80% of my 7.5 hour commute by train (per day), my signal is limited to "Emergency Calls".
64GB of internal memory, (the 128GB is far too expensive) that allows for, let's see... 3 hours of film in 1080, give or take. Since obviously everything else will be filled with all the other formerly-on-my-SD data, such as 30GB of magazines, 15GB worth of comics, 5GB worth of photo's, 5GB of ebooks, 25GB of music and... Oh. Hang on. 30+15+5+5+25 = 80GB. I guess that doesn't leave much room for, well, anything.
Now whatever am I going to do in the remaining 4.5 hours?
Even if I buy the 128GB S6, that would still leave me with over 40GB of missing space (counting 8GB for Android+system apps), since I have a 32GB Note 3 and a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD.
A MicroSD is an absolutely vital component for me. Without it, a device is worthless to me as a mobile media center. (And since I average 2 minutes per month worth of calling... I'm not exactly using it for the mobile functions. )
I've never had a memory card corrupt on me, and I've been using them for pretty much everything for over a decade. Now, cracked screens, damaged phones, random wipes and sudden death syndromes? That happens far too bloody often. I remember receiving over 5000 SDS cases in a month once. A MicroSD would've saved their data...
The cloud is perfectly fine when you're in a country that spans a continent, or you don't leave your home city. And your country offers unlimited data.
Me? I live on the border. There's this nightmare called 'Roaming'. And the biggest available data subscription? 10GB per month. MAX. And it doesn't apply when I walk 1km due east. There's this massive thing called Germany there, where my data is invalid and I have to use Roaming for the price of 2 quid per MB..
Let's see how much that 115GB cloud is going to cost me, then.
115GB, that's 117760MB.
117760x2 = 235520 euro/dollar/pound. I don't know how rich you are, but unless you're Bill Gates, that's not happening.
So. 235520 quid to use all of your cloud once, or 89 quid for an unlimited-use, no additional fees, no network required 128GB MicroSD?
That's not really a choice, is it?
Make no mistake. well over 90% of the world does NOT have a stable, unlimited, constant high speed mobile network connection. The cloud is useless outside that little bubble.
(Edit: Sorry if that sounded a little rude. Wasn't meant to.)
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I'd really like to invite you to try my daily routine for a month. 80% of my 7.5 hour commute by train (per day), my signal is limited to "Emergency Calls".
64GB of internal memory, (the 128GB is far too expensive) that allows for, let's see... 3 hours of film in 1080, give or take. Since obviously everything else will be filled with all the other formerly-on-my-SD data, such as 30GB of magazines, 15GB worth of comics, 5GB worth of photo's, 5GB of ebooks, 25GB of music and... Oh. Hang on. 30+15+5+5+25 = 80GB. I guess that doesn't leave much room for, well, anything.
Now whatever am I going to do in the remaining 4.5 hours?
Even if I buy the 128GB S6, that would still leave me with over 40GB of missing space (counting 8GB for Android+system apps), since I have a 32GB Note 3 and a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD.
A MicroSD is an absolutely vital component for me. Without it, a device is worthless to me as a mobile media center. (And since I average 2 minutes per month worth of calling... I'm not exactly using it for the mobile functions. )
I've never had a memory card corrupt on me, and I've been using them for pretty much everything for over a decade. Now, cracked screens, damaged phones, random wipes and sudden death syndromes? That happens far too bloody often. I remember receiving over 5000 SDS cases in a month once. A MicroSD would've saved their data...
The cloud is perfectly fine when you're in a country that spans a continent, or you don't leave your home city. And your country offers unlimited data.
Me? I live on the border. There's this nightmare called 'Roaming'. And the biggest available data subscription? 10GB per month. MAX. And it doesn't apply when I walk 1km due east. There's this massive thing called Germany there, where my data is invalid and I have to use Roaming for the price of 2 quid per MB..
Let's see how much that 115GB cloud is going to cost me, then.
115GB, that's 117760MB.
117760x2 = 235520 euro/dollar/pound. I don't know how rich you are, but unless you're Bill Gates, that's not happening.
So. 235520 quid to use all of your cloud once, or 89 quid for an unlimited-use, no additional fees, no network required 128GB MicroSD?
That's not really a choice, is it?
Make no mistake. well over 90% of the world does NOT have a stable, unlimited, constant high speed mobile network connection. The cloud is useless outside that little bubble.
(Edit: Sorry if that sounded a little rude. Wasn't meant to.)
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Yeah i have a bit of an issue with cloud as well. Being that I'm on a 10gb family share plan I am limited to about 4gb a month. Since I use the most amount of my phones capacity when I am traveling(which I do often) I can't simply sync with the cloud. I use about 10-15gb of space when I travel for things like movies(6-7gb if I get the low file sized one), random extra games to play(2-3gb), books, music, etc. And I'll tell you what hotel wifi is the devil. And when I travel to Oregon for example, the person I stay with does not have wifi(I know unbelievable). But either way for me SD space is pretty important. Being that the S6 will be at least $50-100 more to go from 32 to 64 and then from 64 to 128 it starts to ad up pretty quickly.
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I'd really like to invite you to try my daily routine for a month. 80% of my 7.5 hour commute by train (per day), my signal is limited to "Emergency Calls".
64GB of internal memory, (the 128GB is far too expensive) that allows for, let's see... 3 hours of film in 1080, give or take. Since obviously everything else will be filled with all the other formerly-on-my-SD data, such as 30GB of magazines, 15GB worth of comics, 5GB worth of photo's, 5GB of ebooks, 25GB of music and... Oh. Hang on. 30+15+5+5+25 = 80GB. I guess that doesn't leave much room for, well, anything.
Now whatever am I going to do in the remaining 4.5 hours?
Even if I buy the 128GB S6, that would still leave me with over 40GB of missing space (counting 8GB for Android+system apps), since I have a 32GB Note 3 and a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD.
A MicroSD is an absolutely vital component for me. Without it, a device is worthless to me as a mobile media center. (And since I average 2 minutes per month worth of calling... I'm not exactly using it for the mobile functions. )
I've never had a memory card corrupt on me, and I've been using them for pretty much everything for over a decade. Now, cracked screens, damaged phones, random wipes and sudden death syndromes? That happens far too bloody often. I remember receiving over 5000 SDS cases in a month once. A MicroSD would've saved their data...
The cloud is perfectly fine when you're in a country that spans a continent, or you don't leave your home city. And your country offers unlimited data.
Me? I live on the border. There's this nightmare called 'Roaming'. And the biggest available data subscription? 10GB per month. MAX. And it doesn't apply when I walk 1km due east. There's this massive thing called Germany there, where my data is invalid and I have to use Roaming for the price of 2 quid per MB..
Let's see how much that 115GB cloud is going to cost me, then.
115GB, that's 117760MB.
117760x2 = 235520 euro/dollar/pound. I don't know how rich you are, but unless you're Bill Gates, that's not happening.
So. 235520 quid to use all of your cloud once, or 89 quid for an unlimited-use, no additional fees, no network required 128GB MicroSD?
That's not really a choice, is it?
Make no mistake. well over 90% of the world does NOT have a stable, unlimited, constant high speed mobile network connection. The cloud is useless outside that little bubble.
(Edit: Sorry if that sounded a little rude. Wasn't meant to.)
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Not at all.
I wasn't talking personally to you. I was talking generally about the pros and cons of SD cards.
As I said in my last post, I wasn't talking about the cloud as everyday storage option, I was talking about it as a safety measure to backup your data in the very rare case you damaged your phone. I understand that you're not home for long periods of time, but eventually I imagine you'll have to get home and you'll have wireless internet, through which you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone to avoid any loss of data. That was my point.
There are good deals for the 128 GB version of the S6 right now (much cheaper than when I bought the 16GB S4 2 years ago), and there will be better deals in a few months because internal storage is getting cheaper. I was explaining why internal storage, even though it's still more expensive than SD cards (though not as expensive as it was a year ago), is indeed a huge improvement in term of performance and reliability compared to SD cards, which is why it's imo worth the extra money.
I totally understand if for you that 32GB extra (128GB vs 160GB, not 40GB because the Note3 also comes with a system loaded on it) is a deal breaker. But not everybody is in a situation like you. In fact if you asked me for my opinion about what phone you should get I would have definitely told you to get the Note 4, not because of the SD card, but because if you're using your phone to watch movies 7 hours per day then for you the bigger screen will have a higher value and will outweigh the practicality of carrying a smaller device.
However like I said, not everybody is in your situation, and from what I've seen with people around me, most people actually don't need more than 64GB of storage, including me, even though I'll be getting the 128GB version of the S6 because I got a good deal for it. And for people who don't need that 32GB extra (on top of the 128GB) there are a lot of pros of getting 64GB/128GB of internal storage (rather than 64GB/128GB SD card) that imo justifies the extra cost (which is now not as big as it was a year or two ago). After all performance is also a very important factor why we upgrade our devices.
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Not at all.
I wasn't talking personally to you. I was talking generally about the pros and cons of SD cards.
As I said in my last post, I wasn't talking about the cloud as everyday storage option, I was talking about it as a safety measure to backup your data in the very rare case you damaged your phone. I understand that you're not home for long periods of time, but eventually I imagine you'll have to get home and you'll have wireless internet, through which you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone to avoid any loss of data. That was my point.
There are good deals for the 128 GB version of the S6 right now (much cheaper than when I bought the 16GB S4 2 years ago), and there will be better deals in a few months because internal storage is getting cheaper. I was explaining why internal storage, even though it's still more expensive than SD cards (though not as expensive as it was a year ago), is indeed a huge improvement in term of performance and reliability compared to SD cards, which is why it's imo worth the extra money.
I totally understand if for you that 32GB extra (128GB vs 160GB, not 40GB because the Note3 also comes with a system loaded on it) is a deal breaker. But not everybody is in a situation like you. In fact if you asked me for my opinion about what phone you should get I would have definitely told you to get the Note 4, not because of the SD card, but because if you're using your phone to watch movies 7 hours per day then for you the bigger screen will have a higher value and will outweigh the practicality of carrying a smaller device.
However like I said, not everybody is in your situation, and from what I've seen with people around me, most people actually don't need more than 64GB of storage, including me, even though I'll be getting the 128GB version of the S6 because I got a good deal for it. And for people who don't need that 32GB extra (on top of the 128GB) there are a lot of pros of getting 64GB/128GB of internal storage (rather than 64GB/128GB SD card) that imo justifies the extra cost (which is now not as big as it was a year or two ago). After all performance is also a very important factor why we upgrade our devices.
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What are the prices for the S6? I haven't seen anything on it yet. I'm in the US btw.
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What are the prices for the S6? I haven't seen anything on it yet. I'm in the US btw.
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I got it with contract in the Netherlands and the device (128GB S6) itself cost me a total of 779 euro (the combination of the 16GB S4 I have right now + 64GB SD card cost me about 750 euro two years ago).
Check service providers, it's likely that you'll find very good deals.
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I got it with contract in the Netherlands and the device (128GB S6) itself cost me a total of 779 euro (the combination of the 16GB S4 I have right now + 64GB SD card cost me about 750 euro two years ago).
Check service providers, it's likely that you'll find very good deals.
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There hasn't really been any pricing in the US yet. For us the s6 isn't released until april 10.
Stuck on the fence between the two options. Storage space isn't as compelling to me as I already have an SD card for expanded storage.
What's everyone's thoughts? Worth the extra cost for 33% more RAM?
Save your $
with the price drops at best buy it was only 30 dollars difference so I opted to return the 128gb model and get the 256.
The biggest issue on an external memory is: to slow, not all things can moved on the SD Card. Internal less memory let lost the fun of the tablet. Thats my experience of the last years. About this one I move to the 256G part
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The biggest issue on an external memory is: to slow, not all things can moved on the SD Card. Internal less memory let lost the fun of the tablet. Thats my experience of the last years. About this one I move to the 256G part
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you need to buy cards marked U3, not U1 that guarantees minimum 30MB/s(240mbps) write speed. That's what I buy for shooting 4k 60ps drone footage which tops 120mbps. They are still not as fast as internal storage, but for movies and other data files they are great.
The card is only the half way. You can used the fastest card of the World, if the interface to the card id slow. The tranferrate to and from the SDCard ist one of the negative point of the galaxy tab S7 in the technical reviews (Could be better for this device)
You can compare this with a SSD on a SATA2 .The SSD could be faster , but the tx/rx rate from the hardware is not faster and brake the performance
abso-smurfly worth the cost if you do heavy video or into multitasking and using DEX. if you do lite email and occasional gaming, its not worth it. but im a power user and the extra 100 dollars was pocket change for me to gain that extra ram.
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The card is only the half way. You can used the fastest card of the World, if the interface to the card id slow. The tranferrate to and from the SDCard ist one of the negative point of the galaxy tab S7 in the technical reviews (Could be better for this device)
You can compare this with a SSD on a SATA2 .The SSD could be faster , but the tx/rx rate from the hardware is not faster and brake the performance
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well running benchmark U1 vs U3 I'm getting 90/70MBs(u3) vs 70/40MBs(u1). Which is close to the quoted max rate on the card. Now that's nothing compared to internal storage which I'm guessing is true SSD which tests out at nearly 1GBs, which definitely makes the extra 128gb + 2 GB of RAM a great deal for 30 dollars.
Still the U3 card is a solid performance boost.
Thanks everyone for the input, appreciate it.
Considering the price difference isn't that much, I decided to go big.
One thing I'm a bit bummed about is that the 256GB model only has one color option - I realize it's just cosmetic but I would have liked the mystic silver option. I'm just limited to the black option.
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One thing I'm a bit bummed about is that the 256GB model only has one color option - I realize it's just cosmetic but I would have liked the mystic silver option. I'm just limited to the black option.
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Hm, what area of the world are you ordering from? Here in the US, the 256 GB model is available in silver. I have one, and it's also showing as available in Samsung's store.
In Germany the 256G version are in black, silver and bronze available
After a week, I'm glad I went with the upgrade. Ended up paying 700 even for the 7+ and got 50$ GC on the side and the speed of the internal storage is amazing. Add to that the extra RAM. I like Black
If you're asking about RAM - don't worry. 6 GB is plenty on the tablet. I was worried at first too but after having 6 tabs open on Chrome, YouTube vanced in picture-in-picture mode, and Microsoft Word open - there were no delays or lag. Ymmv, but I don't have any issues.
That being said, if the difference in price is about 30-50$ I'd consider it. The added RAM makes it more future proof and if you don't need a MicroSD card with the added base storage, then you come out on top since the external storage just isn't as fast.