Sound enhancements restricted in lollipop - Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

According to xperia z3 users in xperia mobile forums, lollipop update has limited sound enhancements to movie player + walkman app and a few more playstore apps.
This is because the sound enhancement is no longer system-wide compared to kitkat.The 3rd party app developer has to include code to support sound enhancements otherwise you don't use it with third party apps.
Can any lollipop user open subway surfers, then listen to it's song for a bit and turn clearaudio+ off, return to game and see if there's any difference? I want to confirm if it's the same for us Z2 users.
I have done that in subway surfers using kitkat and it did make a difference in sound.

Bumping thread, I just need someone who's using lollipop to confirm if clearaudio+ or loudness equalazation works in subway surfers. :fingers-crossed:
This is important for me as it confirms that lollipop still enhances 3rd party apps' sounds.
Thanks in advance

I don't particularly have the game, so I can't help with confirming your query.
But I have tried it for the youtube app and found that the sound enhancement does not work. I also tried toggling clearaudio+ on and off and adjusting the equalizer while soundcloud was playing a song in the background and nothing was happening. From this I think that there is no sound enhancement present in 3rd party apps. It was not like this before when I still had kitkat.
Sorry if this doesn't help.

@Arunumeric
I requested info on that particular game because some users said enhancements didn't work for youtube in KK anyway and well it's a commonly played game :silly:
It seems like that was a false information.Enhancements work for me on youtube (on kitkat now) and appereantly it doesn't work on lollipop.
Thank you for confirming
Guess I won't be updating to lollipop until sony changes their mind on this or something worthy comes out (better camera software perhaps)
P.S. to keep yourself updated on this topic read what support team says. : https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...blem-after-lollipop-update/td-p/955035/page/5

ottomanhero said:
@Arunumeric
I requested info on that particular game because some users said enhancements didn't work for youtube in KK anyway and well it's a commonly played game :silly:
It seems like that was a false information.Enhancements work for me on youtube (on kitkat now) and appereantly it doesn't work on lollipop.
Thank you for confirming
Guess I won't be updating to lollipop until sony changes their mind on this or something worthy comes out (better camera software perhaps)
P.S. to keep yourself updated on this topic read what support team says. : https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...blem-after-lollipop-update/td-p/955035/page/5
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Here are more informations about this issue:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22726
As the sony support stated this is not removed by sony its removed by android. You can call it stupid and it is indeed, but it won't change this in lollipop. There is also no plan to change this in any next releases of android.
So here is the intent every application have to implement to use a system wide equalizer:
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/media/audiofx/AudioEffect.html#ACTION_OPEN_AUDIO_EFFECT_CONTROL_SESSION
you see its not a mess for a developer of a media player to use the system equalizer. This feature was available since Android 2.3 Gingerbread, enough time for everyone.

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Does Google Play Music have Gapless playback on CM 4.2.x ROMs?

So the one thing I really love to do on my phone nowadays is play music while doing many other errands. I have some favorite albums that lend themselves very well for gapless playback, that is the songs play without a pause in between.
I recently read that the latest versions of Google Play Music app has this feature but that it needs the latest version of Android. But it is not clear if it works even then as I read comments on the app store by people who claim it doesn't work blah blah even though they are on the latest and the greatest!
So, long story short, can someone please verify if this works for CM on our phone? Because I am all comfortably setup with Viper ROM and I don't want to unnecessarily flash CM if it doesn't currently work!
Thanks
litetaker said:
So the one thing I really love to do on my phone nowadays is play music while doing many other errands. I have some favorite albums that lend themselves very well for gapless playback, that is the songs play without a pause in between.
I recently read that the latest versions of Google Play Music app has this feature but that it needs the latest version of Android. But it is not clear if it works even then as I read comments on the app store by people who claim it doesn't work blah blah even though they are on the latest and the greatest!
So, long story short, can someone please verify if this works for CM on our phone? Because I am all comfortably setup with Viper ROM and I don't want to unnecessarily flash CM if it doesn't currently work!
Thanks
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I am using Google Play All Access. And it works (for the most part anyway.) I would make a nandroid backup via the recovery of your choice and try CyanogenMod. But that's just me. But I must say that on wake-up, there is a slight pause, on sound. (could only be media) can anyone else confirm this or is it only me?

[Q] Sound bug? Audio delay in games

Hi,
I'm very satisfied with my z2 tablet.
But: While gaming Dead Trigger, GTA Vice City and Modern Combat 4 I experience an audio delay of approx. 0.5 - 0.7 seconds. Every other app including other games e.g. Asphalt 8 and videoplayback runs just fine without any audio delay.
Does anybody else encounter such a delay while gaming one of the abovementioned games?
thanks in advance
woggly4
Yes, I can confirm it playing riptide! However I think this is a software problem which will most probably be fixed soon...
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I can confirm that with several emulators. e.g. ePSXe or SuperN64 (Mupen)
I'm also getting this, I noticed it when playing worms 2 and the new walking dead game. Has anyone heard of an upcoming fix?
I have the bug too...
I am also facing this issue when playing worms 2. Anyone else? It also seems to be present in Netflix according to some users at talk.Sonymobile.com forums.
Try disabling all sound improvements
pmeinert said:
Try disabling all sound improvements
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I think I tried that, as in using default settings in the equaliser. Did you have problems aswell and it solved it for you.
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I think I tried that, as in using default settings in the equaliser. Did you have problems aswell and it solved it for you.
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On mine, there is an equalizer setting called off. I don't think equalizer does much harm though, no matter what setting. It is just that sound improvement are digital filters and in nature will always introduce some delay and processing overhead. Of course it should not cause such a noticeable delay however the more processing involved the more error sources. In order to locate an error, you need to minimize the variables. Therefore if disabling all sound modifications help, you can then start to enable them one by one an see if and when the problem reoccur and what causes it.
I have not experienced the problem, however I hardly have sound on anything (especially games, though I don't play much) unless the sound is what matters, because of a health issue making me very sound/noise sensitive.
With the latest update (.402) the audio delay has been reduced sharply, but is still there from what I can tell.
What are your experiences?
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I have the bug in Worms 2 and it's off by some ms. First I uninstalled it and reinstalled which worked. When I tried today it was suffering from the bug again. I then tried to clear app data which worked - but only for one session! Closing the game and starting the game again made the bug come back. So I tried to wipe app data and restart, sound in sync again... But only for one session. Maybe someone smarter than me can tell me why this happens?
Reply from Sony
I got fed up with the audio delay (in games not so annoying, but for video much more irritating) and wrote Sony about it. It is only the Z2 tablet that has problem with these apps, the apps work fine on my other Android devices.
Sony's reply was that they don't care:
Sony Xperia Support said:
Dear Gnopps,
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia Support.
We are sorry to hear about the problem you are experiencing with your Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet.
Does the audio delay occur in built in apps? Unfortunately we can not guarantee compatibility with third party apps and are unable to provide you support on them or a fix to your solution. We recommend you to contact the app developers for further information and support.
Kind Regards,
Sony Xperia Support, SE.
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Did anyone here manage to get it fixed?
Gnopps said:
I got fed up with the audio delay (in games not so annoying, but for video much more irritating) and wrote Sony about it. It is only the Z2 tablet that has problem with these apps, the apps work fine on my other Android devices.
Sony's reply was that they don't care:
Did anyone here manage to get it fixed?
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I havent fixed it yet, the only app I have problems with is Worms 2 and it works if I clear app cache. I have to that every time I want to play it though making progress almost impossible ;/.
Sad to hear that Sony doesnt care...
Sony support is really one of the WORST.
You only need to read what users experienced regarding the touchscreen problems (which is a far more serious problem than audio delay in games). Like the North Korean government, Sony says it doesn't know of any problems. The customer is the ass.
I love my Z2 Tablet, but this company just plain sucks.

[Q] Music Players

Guys, as we all know, the specs of our phones kind of limit the choices that we have when it comes to applications due to performance issues etc. I'd like to ask for recommendations for Music Players that run good on our devices apart from SONY WALKMAN. As of now, I'm using gonemad Music player and it works well TBH. The number one thing I like about that app is the equalizer that lets you increase music loudness beyond the stock android limitation (you know, when using Viper V4A you can increase output levels but it'll gobble down if its too much etc).
Okay, back to my main question:
Can Y'all recommend me some music apps that work nice with our phones? Thank you
(running CM10.1 on Xperia Mini Pro SK17i)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.abrantix.rockon.rockonnggl
^^^ This one is called cubed I used to use it on my Xperia Play.
Works really well, has an equalizer.

video recording while playing music not working

hello z2 users!!.
recently i bought my z2 in replacement with my old N7000 note1. i used my note 1 in recording video of myself playing guitar and at the same time playing MP3 backing track on the same phone. i have tried that features on other phone like lenovo and its working fine. i like this kind of feature where in our phone is a multi task.
when i test it to my Z2. play the music on the walkman app, minimize open the video camera. and start recording suddenly the music stops. i tried the other way around, open camera app, start video recording, it stop upon minimizing the camera app.
Now my question is:
1. is this a common issue of Z2? is it normal on sony phones.
2. is there a way that my phone can use this feature?
i hope i get reply on my queries as i am hoping to use the phone like this
ulyshut said:
hello z2 users!!.
recently i bought my z2 in replacement with my old N7000 note1. i used my note 1 in recording video of myself playing guitar and at the same time playing MP3 backing track on the same phone. i have tried that features on other phone like lenovo and its working fine. i like this kind of feature where in our phone is a multi task.
when i test it to my Z2. play the music on the walkman app, minimize open the video camera. and start recording suddenly the music stops. i tried the other way around, open camera app, start video recording, it stop upon minimizing the camera app.
Now my question is:
1. is this a common issue of Z2? is it normal on sony phones.
2. is there a way that my phone can use this feature?
i hope i get reply on my queries as i am hoping to use the phone like this
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That's normal on Sony phones. You can try with some other camera app like Google camera.
That's normal on Sony phones. You can try with some other camera app like Google camera.
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thanks for the reply man, i have tried the google camera but still same issue. btw i used CM rom in my N7000, its working.
Maybe CM rom of Z2 will work or it may give the same output as the stock rom.
ulyshut said:
thanks for the reply man, i have tried the google camera but still same issue. btw i used CM rom in my N7000, its working.
Maybe CM rom of Z2 will work or it may give the same output as the stock rom.
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Maybe, but you must try it. So if this function is important to you unlock your BL and try with CM.
i found an app that works
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera

Music app

Anyone has experience with another music app different from Google play music that works fine with this phone?
venezolano69 said:
Anyone has experience with another music app different from Google play music that works fine with this phone?
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I have no clue why Nokia has no dedicated apps for music , file explorer , gallery , voice recorder , calculator etc .. like Samsung , HTC and other brands
machhho said:
I have no clue why Nokia has no dedicated apps for music , file explorer , gallery , voice recorder , calculator etc .. like Samsung , HTC and other brands
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It is very strange for me
machhho said:
I have no clue why Nokia has no dedicated apps for music , file explorer , gallery , voice recorder , calculator etc .. like Samsung , HTC and other brands
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Because Nokia made a great decision, to use pure Android. The smoothest and fastest Android of all. Besides the Google Pixel- Pixel 2, there is no other flagship with pure Android. You even have Google lens and "ok Google" with screen off, working. You have Android 8.1, when Galaxy S8 is right now updating to 8.0! For almost half the money.... Think about it....
I found this app that works very fine
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-6/themes/xperia-music-app-nokia-6-t3761076
I use "music folder", I love this app, it's simple but powerful at the same time.
Very very low battery drain.
I tried it for a few weeks and then I bought it, also to reward the work done.
Tolios1999 said:
Because Nokia made a great decision, to use pure Android. The smoothest and fastest Android of all. Besides the Google Pixel- Pixel 2, there is no other flagship with pure Android. You even have Google lens and "ok Google" with screen off, working. You have Android 8.1, when Galaxy S8 is right now updating to 8.0! For almost half the money.... Think about it....
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Regarding this decision, I'm glad they took it and that's why I love the new Nokia.
However they could implement some little features like the screen-on when there is a notification coming.
Also their glance screen is still a far cry that the one used in Lumias, in every aspect (aesthetic, features, battery consumption).
I'm not sure if Nokia / HMD is really working under the hood or if they just push Google updates and that's it.
ben_linux said:
Regarding this decision, I'm glad they took it and that's why I love the new Nokia.
However they could implement some little features like the screen-on when there is a notification coming.
Also their glance screen is still a far cry that the one used in Lumias, in every aspect (aesthetic, features, battery consumption).
I'm not sure if Nokia / HMD is really working under the hood or if they just push Google updates and that's it.
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Isn't that what pure Android is all about? Pure Google. Fast updates and stock experience. I think I prefer fast updates, to have a secure and fluid device, than little tricks, that you mostly find in apps on play store anyway.
btw... On WhatsApp, sms and a few more apps, there are notifications on lock screen. And screen turns on. Just not for all apps.
If you look at the phone, the only downside, is it's own camera application. It sucks. Since I replaced it with Google camera, the phone became complete!
Yes you're right and that's why I chose Nokia too (that, + the fact that I'm a fanboy of the brand).
I know that Whatsapp wake up the screen with notifications, the whole point of my post was that, YES, Pure Android is fantastic and so far Nokia do a good job with updates. But maybe they could, like Sony for instance, just make 2-3 little additions on firmwares that won't slow down the updates that much, but will be great for users. For Instance, while under 8.0, it was nearly impossible to enjoy music streaming via bluetooth because it was broken (thanks Google). I don't have this problem on 8.0 with the GS8, and that's because Samsung worked on it.
Now with 8.1, no stuttering anymore, but as a lot of devices, Spotify is just shut down after 30min.
I would appreciate that HMD/Nokia put a little more effort on these type of problems.
I also agree that GC makes an HUGE difference.
I use poweramp and it works great. I love my nokia 8.
PlayerPro also work great for me, although I bought the Pro version years ago so dunno about the free version.
Same with Black Player, small and great.
If you have lots of albums N7 player is a uniquely brilliant in how it presents and navigates them.
I bought playerpro back when I had a HTC wildfire. That's how long I e used this music player and how happy I am with it. It's truly stood the test of time. My favourite feature is being able to download album artwork from the internet.
@venezolano69, I am currently using Onkyo HF player and is pretty good. It has various preseted HQ settings available and has a decent sound quality! It is worth to try if you are seeking for a new music player with good performance.
@machhho, if you are seeking for an audio recorder, let's try the one made by Sony. Both of the software can be found in the Google Store
I have been using BlackPlayer and it's really the best one out there in my opinion.
How can I record calls (App)?
I am now on Asus Music downloaded from APK mirror. Runs great and also has an equalizer. Still using since Asus zenfone 2 Laser and still great
Try shuttle music player
venezolano69 said:
Anyone has experience with another music app different from Google play music that works fine with this phone?
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I use Blackpayer EX its a nice music app. Very cheap on playstore aswell
Poweramp for me, nothing seems to sound even close.

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