So I'm currently running a T-Mobile S5 w/ BlissROM Android 5.0 and Philz Touch recovery. I've noticed when I do a nandroid backup, the time/date stamp is wrong. I could probably live with this, but I went to see if a newer version of Philz might fix this bug and discovered it's been abandoned. So I'm wondering if I should switch to TWRP, and what the safe/proper way to do this is?
Obviously I'm already rooted and such.
First of all, I assume I download from here:
http://dl.twrp.me/klte/
Can I flash the zip via Philz? Or do I need to use ODIN? Should I instead use Flashify? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.flashify&hl=en
Or perhaps I should use the Skipsoft Android Toolkit? I'm not clear if that would work in my given situation though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2721146
(links to show I've tried to do some homework here before asking).
Phone is otherwise working fine so I don't want to f things up for what is just a cosmetic nuisance, but if I can do this easily/safely I wouldn't mind getting onto a supported recovery. Thanks!
search for twrp in store.. install it.. pick the s5 as phone and you can download latest tw and flash fine through the app if rooted.
lgkahn said:
search for twrp in store.. install it.. pick the s5 as phone and you can download latest tw and flash fine through the app if rooted.
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This?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jmz.soft.twrpmanager
Can it really be that simple?
yep that is what I did to switch from philz to twp
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off course as an alternative you can download the recovery and flash in odin
Thanks. I'm checking it out but saw a message that the new TWRP backup/restore (I assume it's referring to nandroid backups) can't do so to the external SD card. I'm able to find on Philz and don't want to lose this (I have lots of free space on my 64GB MicroSD card but not so much on my internal). Is this a false message or is it true?
From the message it's not clear if this limitation is only from within the app (in which case I don't care) as long as I can still do it when booting into recovery.
I came from Philz to TWRP and used the app to replace it. I just reinstalled the TWRP Manager (I just flashed a new ROM yesterday) and checked.
Clicking the "Classic Backup" option reports this message -
Attention
Due to recent changes in TWRP recovery we are unable to specify a target storage device. I.E. External or USB-OTG. You will only be able to backup to internal storage from this app
So what you heard was correct.
I've had TiBu for years and use that to back up/restore so it's no biggie for me.
General_Mayhem said:
I came from Philz to TWRP and used the app to replace it. I just reinstalled the TWRP Manager (I just flashed a new ROM yesterday) and checked.
Clicking the "Classic Backup" option reports this message -
Attention
Due to recent changes in TWRP recovery we are unable to specify a target storage device. I.E. External or USB-OTG. You will only be able to backup to internal storage from this app
So what you heard was correct.
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But does it still do nandroid backups to the external SD from Recovery once TWRP is installed as the recovery? That's what I'm most concerned about. As I said in my earlier post, I'm unclear if the limitation is only within the TWRP Manager app when running "Classic Backup" and doesn't apply to nandroid backups done when you boot into TWRP recover.
I've had TiBu for years and use that to back up/restore so it's no biggie for me.
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I use Titanium Backup as well but TB apps backups aren't the same as a nandroid backup.
sremick said:
But does it still do nandroid backups to the external SD from Recovery once TWRP is installed as the recovery? That's what I'm most concerned about. As I said in my earlier post, I'm unclear if the limitation is only within the TWRP Manager app when running "Classic Backup" and doesn't apply to nandroid backups done when you boot into TWRP recover.
I use Titanium Backup as well but TB apps backups aren't the same as a nandroid backup.
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Sorry, been a long day.. Just booted into recovery and looking in the Backup option in TWRP it auto-selects the following -
Boot
System
Data
Additional options available are -
Recovery
Cache
EFS
Modem
AND it gives you the option to back up to Internal, Micro SD or USB. See Tip#2 for the UI
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I just had a couple of questions about the whole ROMS and how to install them. I have my Vibrant rooted but I'm still not 100% sure how to root. What I looked up online is the following:
1-Use ROM manager to download recover image.
2-Download ROM and save it on the SD.
3-Boot into recovery (1st question can I boot into recovery through ROM manager or do I have to do it the manual way?)
4-Select option reinstall packages which take you to the ClockWork Recovery
5-Wipe date from phone (2nd question I've heard about NANDROID back ups but what exactly are they and what do they do? If i make a nandroid back up then wipe will I still be able to restore my phone to its previous condition through this back up?
6-install .zip from SD and Voila you have ROM.
So aside from the two obvious questions I just want to know if I have the correct steps?
The help would be greatly appreciated thank you!
ibuddha said:
I just had a couple of questions about the whole ROMS and how to install them. I have my Vibrant rooted but I'm still not 100% sure how to root. What I looked up online is the following:
1-Use ROM manager to download recover image.
2-Download ROM and save it on the SD.
3-Boot into recovery (1st question can I boot into recovery through ROM manager or do I have to do it the manual way?)
4-Select option reinstall packages which take you to the ClockWork Recovery
5-Wipe date from phone (2nd question I've heard about NANDROID back ups but what exactly are they and what do they do? If i make a nandroid back up then wipe will I still be able to restore my phone to its previous condition through this back up?
6-install .zip from SD and Voila you have ROM.
So aside from the two obvious questions I just want to know if I have the correct steps?
The help would be greatly appreciated thank you!
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1) Yes Rom Manager will let you boot directly into clockwork recovery.
2) Yes Nandroid will make a complete backup of your phone software and apps installed, so when you restore a backup it will be the same as when you backed it up.
3) Make your nandroid before wiping anything! Other wise your steps are ok.
Awesome!! And I can make the nandroid back up from clock work right? Also can I move the back up to like a usb or do I have to keep it on the phone?
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Yes, you use clockwork to make the nandroid bakup. And if you like you can store the backup on your USB drive. Just copy the folder over and you will be all good. You only have to have the backup on the phone if you intend to restore a backup.
Whats great about Clockwork and Nandroid which works well with Clockwork is I have my stock rom all the way to my current. I just keep making backups and I restore if I want to compare. I have the following on my phone.
Stock
Vibrant4
Vibrant5
Vibrant6
Vibrant7
When I get a Rom just the way I like it I make a backup of it so if/when I have to leave it and possibly come back to it I just flash it. Also I would recommend Titanium Backup so you can backup your apps and reload them even if you go back on a rom. Makes reloading settings easier in your apps too.
Ok, so I just made a back up using rom mangers back up rom feature, am I supposed to specifically look for something that says "nandroid"?
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You will only see "nandroid" if you boot your phone into clockwork recovery.
And, no, you don't specifically need to look for it.
aksoutherland said:
Yes, you use clockwork to make the nandroid bakup. And if you like you can store the backup on your USB drive. Just copy the folder over and you will be all good. You only have to have the backup on the phone if you intend to restore a backup.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't you want to keep your backup somewhere NOT on the phone? Because if you brick your phone, or corrupt it or something, wouldn't you have a tough time restoring with your backup file? I don't really get it.
Well I've done it I tried out Eugenes Vibrant Hybrid ROM and it was nice but I'll just wait for something else later on. my only question is once you install a ROM i would have had to DL all my apps again which is gay...
anyway i used Rom manager to create my back up of my stock build after playing with Eugene's ROM for a bit I restored my back up like a G.
I LOVE ANDROID!!!
ibuddha said:
Well I've done it I tried out Eugenes Vibrant Hybrid ROM and it was nice but I'll just wait for something else later on. my only question is once you install a ROM i would have had to DL all my apps again which is gay...
anyway i used Rom manager to create my back up of my stock build after playing with Eugene's ROM for a bit I restored my back up like a G.
I LOVE ANDROID!!!
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Nice work. I'm not quite there yet. So, you used ROM manager to restore to your nandroid backup?
Also, I think a lot of people use titanium back-up to back up all their apps.
Dang...
Thanks for the post! Now I remember how I did it!
trunkstar1 said:
Nice work. I'm not quite there yet. So, you used ROM manager to restore to your nandroid backup?
Also, I think a lot of people use titanium back-up to back up all their apps.
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Yeah, I loaded Eugene's ROM and played around with out a bit, then I downloaded rom manager from the market and restored the back up I saved on my sd. It was quick and painless.
jshuford said:
Thanks for the post! Now I remember how I did it!
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Glad I could help although I'm not sure how I did but sweet. I thought titanium back up was just another way of doing the back up stuff.
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Well...
After having just received my shiny new Vibrant... I just couldn't wait to F*$k with it!
I had been reading through the posts on this forum for several day's and went for it!
I kinda remember how/what I did and you just filled in the blanks.
So...Thank you
ibuddha said:
Well I've done it I tried out Eugenes Vibrant Hybrid ROM and it was nice but I'll just wait for something else later on. my only question is once you install a ROM i would have had to DL all my apps again which is gay..
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gay? fine by me
1. Make a nandroid backup using clockworkrecoverymod.
2. Copy the entire backup directory to your PC for "just in case" scenarios.
3. Make a backup of your user installed apps using Titanium backup, and copy it over to your PC.
4. Download the ROM (i.e. Eugene's Vibrant9.zip) to your internal SD card.
5. Boot into clockworkrecovery (I use ROM Manager for that)
6. Install ROM.zip from SD card
7. Reboot into normal boot.
8. Verify the basic functionality of the phone, and make sure your satisfaction level goes a notch up.
9. Download Titanium backup from the market and install it.
10. Restore Titanium backup.
11. Crack a beer, enjoy your accomplishments, and DO NOT ask when CM6 comes rolling around
lqaddict said:
1. Make a nandroid backup using clockworkrecoverymod.
2. Copy the entire backup directory to your PC for "just in case" scenarios.
3. Make a backup of your user installed apps using Titanium backup, and copy it over to your PC.
4. Download the ROM (i.e. Eugene's Vibrant9.zip) to your internal SD card.
5. Boot into clockworkrecovery (I use ROM Manager for that)
6. Install ROM.zip from SD card
7. Reboot into normal boot.
8. Verify the basic functionality of the phone, and make sure your satisfaction level goes a notch up.
9. Download Titanium backup from the market and install it.
10. Restore Titanium backup.
11. Crack a beer, enjoy your accomplishments, and DO NOT ask when CM6 comes rolling around
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In regards to titanium backup... do you need the DONATE version to restore the apps properly. OR will they restore with all our data, but just not link the market? Thanks in advance!
Any way to get into clockwork recovery without rom manager or if the phone isn't booting up at all? I guess I could always leave an update.zip of clockwork mod on the phone. Is that what everyone else does?
GameOver69 said:
In regards to titanium backup... do you need the DONATE version to restore the apps properly. OR will they restore with all our data, but just not link the market? Thanks in advance!
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I have a paid version, I don't think you would need the full version to properly restore the backup. I used it once to flash a different ROM, and I didn't have to re-purchase Titanium Backup again, I don't believe so.
Well every one tells me that the paid version of titanium is better because it updates your apps straight from the market or something like that. I just downloaded the paid version so I'll let you know how that works out.
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You can also pack the backed up user apps into update.zip and re-install the packages from the recovery, so no need to re-download the Titanium Backup, it should be there once you re-install packages from the recovery after booting into your new ROM.
So I tried to restore my phone multiple times from two different recoveries and every time it stops during it and the screen goes black and the only way to turn my phone on is to pull the battery. Everything but the .android-secure restores and I now have about 200 hundred apps that aren't installed on my phone and I don't want to have to go through all that again, the apps still show as installed on my phone, but the the data on my SD card is missing, does anyone know how I can get this back?
Did you actually wipe your.android_secure folder?
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No, I never wiped it. After I restored my phone it was empty
Did you ever try to move 200?? apps to sd?
Sent.
Yes all the apps were on my SD card already. But they were moved over one by one so it wasn't a major hassle. I tried doing it through TWRP now and it won't restore at all anything that is.
Joey121215 said:
No, I never wiped it. After I restored my phone it was empty
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Also, did you ever flash some kind of superwipe .zip file or anything? Do you have titanium backups? Do you have a TWRP Nandroid?
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Joey121215 said:
Yes all the apps were on my SD card already. But they were moved over one by one so it wasn't a major hassle. I tried doing it through TWRP now and it won't restore at all anything that is.
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Is your Sdcard partitioned, and, if so, are you running a ROM that supports A2SD?
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No I never did a superwipe or anything of the sort, I didn't have any Titanium Backups either, never planned on flashing a new ROM, still haven't. The backup was through CWM the newest update 4.0.1.5 I tried restoring through that and the Revolutionary 4.0.1.4, neither worked. I moved all the recovery files over to TWRPs backup location and they none of the partitions would restore. My SD is not partitioned and I'm on a rooted stock ROM. I'm only talking about regular App2SD apps that are supported by Android, like Angry Birds and Google Earth.
Joey121215 said:
No I never did a superwipe or anything of the sort, I didn't have any Titanium Backups either, never planned on flashing a new ROM, still haven't. The backup was through CWM the newest update 4.0.1.5 I tried restoring through that and the Revolutionary 4.0.1.4, neither worked. I moved all the recovery files over to TWRPs backup location and they none of the partitions would restore. My SD is not partitioned and I'm on a rooted stock ROM. I'm only talking about regular App2SD apps that are supported by Android, like Angry Birds and Google Earth.
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Those go straight to your secure folder. I don't ever use CWM, as a rule, but it seems that somehow your CWM Nandroid didn't include that folder...I don't know how it got wiped, but my guess is that whatever rom you flashed included a Superwipe script,which would've wiped that folder. (another thing I don't use-Superwipe) If you go in with root explorer or whatever file manager, you can manually verify that a) your secure folder is empty (which it sounds like you've done), and also check under your /clockworkmod recovery folders to see if you actually have a backup for the secure folder.
If it's not there, then, unfortunately it's lost.. You can get the apps back from the market, though.. PM me if you have any 'hard to come by' apps you might need that don't show up on the market.
Good luck.
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I never flashed a ROM. . . at all. There was definitely no super wipe. My CWM folder has the .android-secure.IMG, I just want to find a way to get this readded. Thanks for the help
Joey121215 said:
I never flashed a ROM. . . at all. There was definitely no super wipe. My CWM folder has the .android-secure.IMG, I just want to find a way to get this readded. Thanks for the help
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Then the same version of cwm should restore it. Get in touch with Koush from teamdouche/cyanogenmod, the creator of CWM if you're having issues.
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How can I get in touch with him exactly?
Joey121215 said:
So I tried to restore my phone multiple times from two different recoveries and every time it stops during it and the screen goes black and the only way to turn my phone on is to pull the battery. Everything but the .android-secure restores and I now have about 200 hundred apps that aren't installed on my phone and I don't want to have to go through all that again, the apps still show as installed on my phone, but the the data on my SD card is missing, does anyone know how I can get this back?
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OK so what recovery did you make the backup? I don't think TWRP backup work in CWM. Also, you don't even NEED to restore the .img you're talking about. You can restore boot, system, data, and it should boot. If you need your apps back, download them. Then back them up with titanium backup. Koushik can be found in #cyanogenmod-dev on freenode, but I don't think you need to bug him. It sounds like your phone boots right? If you need more help come into our d3rp thread, linked in my sig.
Thanks, yeah I decided to just reset my phone anyway, to fix the black screen of death and everything. Just sucks I can't remember what all my apps were and I'm like a hundred short now
I recently decided to try MROM (I currently have CM7) so I backed up my current ROM and installed MROM. When I tried to check if I could restore my previous ROM, ROM Manager did not list my latest backups, but instead, listed some really old backups. I checked the clockworkmod folder to see if the latest backups were there and they were. Now, for some reason, ROM Manager was looking in the emmc folder, and not the sdcard (where the latest backups were) and I don't know if there's a way to change where it looks for the backups. I changed the settings to use an external sdcard (I don't know if that would help but I tried) and it didn't help. I then booted into recovery and tried the restore option there and I was able to see my latest backups.
I'm not sure why ROM Manager was unable to see them but booting in recovery worked fine. I want to try MROM (and I know I can restore from the recovery console if I really have to) but I just want to understand why this was happening and if there was another way to restore my backups (ROM Manager saves backups in ext3.tar format and I don't know how to use that with adb).
Don't bother with rom manager. I always get rid of it on every cm rom I try. Its pointless. Your recovery works and its a better option IMO.
Thanks! I would still like to know what's going wrong though, if possible, and also if there's a way to restore a backup saved in ext3.tar format using adb.
mrcountdookoo said:
Thanks! I would still like to know what's going wrong though, if possible
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Hard to tell. You may never find out. ROM Manager can indeed be weird like that, and is in my opinion unreliable.
mrcountdookoo said:
and also if there's a way to restore a backup saved in ext3.tar format using adb.
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The backup is a regular TAR archive (as the name suggests). Most recoveries contain the tar tool which you can use to restore the backup.
I notice a lot of horrendous things happening when your cwm backup verison is different from the rom manager/recovery manager's version. I mean we're talking two releases right next to each other. Does TWRP resolve this conflict?
All cwm backups are backwards compatible with each other
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Something else I'd inquire about I have two backups I will switch between (inverted regular to see which one I like)
If I install the recovery openscript in goo manager for twrp backup it will replace clockwork no? If it does my question would be since I can't restore clockwork backups through twrp, how would I restore that second backup or add twrp to it/ in that rom too?
trying to conceptually understand the transition here thanks
Just got the phone today, and right away I rooted it and loaded the Google Play Edition ROM. Everything went smoothly. Then I decided to move the backup I made of the stock ROM to my computer because it is so huge and just keep a Google backup on the device. So I deleted the files in the folder /TWRP/BACKUPS/8e0b378a/1969-12-31--19-11-41. But when I then went to try to backup my Google it kept failing. I tried deleting folders, and then later adding everything back, but nothing helped. It looks like the problems are:
E: Storage partition "//TWRP/backups/8e0b378a' not found
Updating partition details…
E: Unable to locate storage device.
So... now what? Other than the user error, things are going great!
Assuming the backup of your stock rom is still intact and now on your computer I would try flashing a new recovery like clockwork mod, clockwork mod touch are just re flash your team win recovery and and try to backup your current google rom again through your recovery "nandroid" hope it works for ya.
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May also be a sd card issue? Try removing in re installing your sd card. I am pretty sure the default save location for backups are in the internal. Memory but it might help...
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Success! It turns out I didn't try replacing the entire TWRP folder with the one I had copied to my computer. That's a relief.
Cool!
I'm having this problem too, now. It looks like if I delete any backup by hand (not with the TWRP interface), TWRP will no longer backup or restore? Crazy! Is my recent backup garbage, just because TWRP refuses to install it?
I had this issue too. here's my current back up path /storage/extSdCard/TWRP/BACKUPS/94937798/"name of your backup". I deleted the numbered part just to have shorter file path but it didn't work. So then i Deleted everything but the main TWRP folder and my Backup of course. then used TWRP to make a nandroid backup and doing that restored the correct full file path. Maybe try it and then place your old nandroid backup in the folder.
Twrp/backup/######/your nandroid backup.
Also your old backup does it display the file path it used to belong to? If so remake that path of folders in the TWRP folder
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I just read your post again.
Try moving your backup on external SD. Not in a folder then try to restore using Twrp you have find your backup location and select it and try checking the skip md5 verification. Make a nandroid backup 1st just to be safe
Tsukasa Buddha said:
Just got the phone today, and right away I rooted it and loaded the Google Play Edition ROM. Everything went smoothly. Then I decided to move the backup I made of the stock ROM to my computer because it is so huge and just keep a Google backup on the device. So I deleted the files in the folder /TWRP/BACKUPS/8e0b378a/1969-12-31--19-11-41. But when I then went to try to backup my Google it kept failing. I tried deleting folders, and then later adding everything back, but nothing helped. It looks like the problems are:
E: Storage partition "//TWRP/backups/8e0b378a' not found
Updating partition details…
E: Unable to locate storage device.
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I just got the same error today. I tried to make a backup with TWRP 2.6.0.0 on my Nexus 4 and it couldn't locate the storage device, even though I had other backups already that I could see! So I flashed TWRP to 2.5.0.0 and could back things up again!
Is this a bug with TWRP 2.6.0.0 ?
sordna said:
I just got the same error today. I tried to make a backup with TWRP 2.6.0.0 on my Nexus 4 and it couldn't locate the storage device, even though I had other backups already that I could see! So I flashed TWRP to 2.5.0.0 and could back things up again!
Is this a bug with TWRP 2.6.0.0 ?
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I just had the same problems after upgrading from 2.5 to 2.6. Can't make a backup "E: Unable to locate storage device.". Can't see backups (list is just empty, but "E: Storage partition "//TWRP/BACKUPS/HT25ZW308588' not found" is in the console). I downgraded to 2.5 and everything started working again.
Tsukasa Buddha said:
Just got the phone today, and right away I rooted it and loaded the Google Play Edition ROM. Everything went smoothly. Then I decided to move the backup I made of the stock ROM to my computer because it is so huge and just keep a Google backup on the device. So I deleted the files in the folder /TWRP/BACKUPS/8e0b378a/1969-12-31--19-11-41. But when I then went to try to backup my Google it kept failing. I tried deleting folders, and then later adding everything back, but nothing helped. It looks like the problems are:
E: Storage partition "//TWRP/backups/8e0b378a' not found
Updating partition details…
E: Unable to locate storage device.
So... now what? Other than the user error, things are going great!
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TWRP 2.6 is a bit buggy - there is some evidence that installing HyperDrive Rom with 2.6 will bootloop the device, whereas 2.5.0.2 will not. I'd steer clear of 2.6.
wolfgrrl said:
TWRP 2.6 is a bit buggy - there is some evidence that installing HyperDrive Rom with 2.6 will bootloop the device, whereas 2.5.0.2 will not. I'd steer clear of 2.6.
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Installed hyperdrive with 2.6 TWRP with out any problem. I will say from using a TWRP recovery on a different device that it does not like having the back up path altered
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Does anyone know what the /sdcard/TWRP/.twrps file is for? Is it general settings that I can safely delete? (without affecting my ability to restore ?)
I had this problem too, I deleted entire folder /sdcard/TWRP/ and then it works again. I think you just need to delete the .twrps file, this is the config file of twrp.
Why aren't we using CWM? ^_^
Thanks
mykeyin said:
I had this problem too, I deleted entire folder /sdcard/TWRP/ and then it works again. I think you just need to delete the .twrps file, this is the config file of twrp.
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A simple as that. This did the trick. Thanks!
mykeyin said:
I had this problem too, I deleted entire folder /sdcard/TWRP/ and then it works again. I think you just need to delete the .twrps file, this is the config file of twrp.
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fixed after deleting the twrps file, many thanks.
mykeyin said:
I had this problem too, I deleted entire folder /sdcard/TWRP/ and then it works again. I think you just need to delete the .twrps file, this is the config file of twrp.
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I had the same problem, and this solved it. It does seem your assumption is correct. I just deleted the.twrps file and it started working again.
silberj said:
I had the same problem, and this solved it. It does seem your assumption is correct. I just deleted the.twrps file and it started working again.
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Sorted.