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I'm hoping someone here has some *real* ideas or answers regarding this issue.
I have a handsfree Bluetooth kit in my car so that I can safely place calls while driving. This worked flawlessly with my previous Windows Mobile phones (Tilt/Tilt II). With the phone tucked in my pocket and the mobile OS “locked” I could press the voice activation button on the dashboard and easily call someone. Not so with my shiny new AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II. Now I have to dig the phone out and unlock the device before I can use my handsfree system… are we back in the smartphone dark ages?? I might as well take up texting and driving while I’m at it and forget the handsfree unit altogether.
Apparently Google in their infinite wisdom has decided already paired Bluetooth devices pose a security risk. As such, when Android is “locked” it disables any control from Bluetooth. I suppose if you work for the government or some place that you need Pentagon like security this makes sense. For the 95% of us that don’t need these draconian measures this is just plain stupid and potentially unsafe.
I've already rooted my phone. I've tried other ROMs like the latest builds of UnNamed, ICS'd Out, and CyanogenMod. None of these allow Bluetooth operation while the phone is locked (and in fact all of them introduced other issues). I've searched the forums but most similar posts go unanswered or contain nonconstructive replies (flames, unrealistic answers, etc).
I can't and won't disable ALL security. I won't give up making phone calls while driving - I'm on the road a decent amount and need to use that time productively. What are my other choices? Go buy an iPhone or a Windows Mobile unit which work "right"?? Seems like a crazy oversight by Google/Samsung/AT&T if those are my only options!
I would suggest using the official samsung Car dock, as the USB port on there has a special impedance that tells the phone to go into driving mode, which once you unlock the phone, it stays unlocked until you either lock it, or take it off the dock. It also charges your phone at the same time. However if you have a case, this will not work for you. You would need to solder up your own usb plug that has a certain impedance over some pins (theres a thread somewhere about that, its like a jig, but with different impedance) and just plug that in when you're driving, but you still have to unlock the phone at least once with it plugged in.
My clarion cz500 car stereo has no issues making or receiving calls via Bluetooth while my phone is locked.
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My biggest gripe with Android is that BT calling does not work as well as it did with WinMo's Voice Command (which works really well considering how poorly much of WinMo worked). Initiating calls via BT is my main gripe with Android. I wish Google would get it right already. That said, I have no problems answering calls via BT even when the phone is locked.
My phone is paired with the built-in BT in my car and I have no issue with making/taking calls while the phone is locked. Maybe its a compatibility issue with your particular hands-free device?
I also have no BT problem when locked, using the standard BT in my Toyota Avalon, 2011. Running rooted, UnNamed ROM, Entropy's DD 120811 kernel.
For those of you who think BT calling works just fine, I have to ask, have you ever used a WinMo phone with Voice Command? If not, then you don't know how well it's supposed to work. With VC, I could touch the call button on my BT headset or BT car stereo at ANY time, get a little chime and then say the name of the person I wanted to call and have it dial automatically. I never had to touch the phone to do this. When I try this on my Cappy or SGSII I get nothing. I have to initiate the call on the phone and using voice recognition on Android is spotty, at best, and requires more steps. At least answering a call is relatively easy. I have no love for MS, but they got this part right on their phones.
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For those of you who think BT calling works just fine, I have to ask, have you ever used a WinMo phone with Voice Command? If not, then you don't know how well it's supposed to work. With VC, I could touch the call button on my BT headset or BT car stereo at ANY time, get a little chime and then say the name of the person I wanted to call and have it dial automatically. I never had to touch the phone to do this. When I try this on my Cappy or SGSII I get nothing. I have to initiate the call on the phone and using voice recognition on Android is spotty, at best, and requires more steps. At least answering a call is relatively easy. I have no love for MS, but they got this part right on their phones.
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Sgs2 does this stock with no problems via samsung/vlingo voice command app. Seems hit or miss on some custom roms. As long as device has bt turned on and had been prior paired with a headset, just have to turn headset on then hit the button on the headset. Voice prompts over headset ensue
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I'm headed into the AT&T store tomorrow to do some definitive tests but so far I'm skeptical people who say it's working for them truly have their phone locked. The Bluetooth unit in question is a Parrot CK3100 LCD - a bit dated (3 years old) but it works flawlessly with several WinMo phones, several non smartphones (mostly Nokia's), and we just tried a friend's iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. In all cases phonebook and voice dialing not only worked excellently it worked when the phones were truly locked and the screen off.
On the other hand the 3 Android devices I've tried all have the same problem - they won't dial out either by phone book entry or voice recognition unless you unlock the device first. The 3 devices are: Samsung Galaxy S II (AT&T), Samsung Galaxy S (Verizon), and EVO 3D (T-Mobile).
Unfortunately I don't have any other Bluetooth headsets to try out, hence my planned trip to AT&T. I plan on walking out of their either with a Bluetooth device that works or an iPhone Thanks for the replies.
I hear you. I have a Motorola FINITI bluetooth headset and it will not voice dial with the screen locked on my AT&T Galaxy SII.
Is there not an option to keep it from locking? :/
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Is there not an option to keep it from locking? :/
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Some roms give you a quick toggle in your status bar called secure mode, this should do it.
I'm on villain rom with jaykay mod quick toggles and i have that options.
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My stock phone is paired with the built-in BT in my car. I also have I have no problems with making or receiving calls while the phone is locked.
I can also make calls using voice dial when the phone is locked using my plantronics BT headset.
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My stock phone is paired with the built-in BT in my car. I also have I have no problems with making or receiving calls while the phone is locked.
I can also make calls using voice dial when the phone is locked using my plantronics BT headset.
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Are you using a pattern/pin lock? Or just the slide to unlock.
Just slide to unlock.
It works very well and very straightforward. I just press and hold the call button on my headset (while the phone is locked), and then after the tone say, "call John Doe on mobile" and it works.
Something for OP to consider in troubleshooting why he is unable get this work:
The BT voice dial works through the older pre-installed Vlingo (version 2.x). Even though I have the newer version (3) of Vlingo installed, the phone still launches the older preinstalled version of Vlingo for BT voice dial. So it seems the BT voice dial function is in some way hardcoded to that version of Vlingo.
Perhaps OP is using a custom ROM in which the older pre-installed Vlingo is removed(?). I know that is the case with some of the custom ROMs for the Int'l SGS2.
If I were to freeze or remove the older version of Vlingo, that might impact BT voice dial. Although I wouldn't expect it to affect the use of my phone through my car's build in BT.
Try it with a pattern lock or some kind, I believe that is what the OP has and its what "locks" the phone from using BT dialing, whether its voice based, or address book based from a headunit.
OK, if OP means that type of lock, then, no you cannot make a call when locked.
Although, it is not clear to me why one would want BT to bypass the lock in this manner. It seems the PIN or pattern lock would be pointless. If the phone is stolen (or lost) the person who stole it (or found it) could have access to your phone's contents through bluetooth. Am I missing something?
Definitely missing something. He wants the phone to be able to make calls while the phone is locked which is why i suggested to keep it unlocked by enabling driving mode through the mount.
My point was that allowing bypassing the lock through BT creates a exposure many would not want. The simplest solution might be keeping it unlocked either using a mount as you suggest, or using one of the profile apps that lets you create a profile to keep the phone unlocked when plugged in. He could then plug it into the car power adapter.
I use a pattern lock, and can make calls through the built-in BT in my car when the phone is locked. I can dial on the car's touch screen (disabled when the car is in motion, except for pre-set speed dials), or tell it to call someone by pressing a button on the steering wheel and saying the name. The car BT compares the spoken name with the list of contacts from my phone that have been BT-loaded into the car's contact list. Nevertheless,the call is made though the phone, since the vehicle BT is not itself a phone. Has anyone noticed that we have not heard again from Rajah, the originator of this thread? Rajah, are you there? Were your issues resolved?
Hi, sorry if this is in the wrong category.
What I want to achieve is:
1. To stream audio (MP3s, calls) from my phone to my car stereo
2. To do this, and other functions of my phone, without taking the phone out of my pocket at all.
I'm going to be buying a Galaxy S5 in the very near future, and also my car stereo is knackered, so I thought now is a good time to shake things up. What I was thinking of was to get a new car stereo that has Bluetooth, and then use an NFC tag stuck on to the seat of my car, and the Trigger app, that when connected will turn on Bluetooth on my phone, and turn on voice commands.
First of all, what can one do with voice commands these days? I currently have a Galaxy S2, and with that one, it's not very much. What I'll want to do is call people, amswer the phone when people call me, write SMS/Whatsapp messages, and have them read out to me, set calendar entries and reminders, play music by going through my music library and reading it out to me.
Is this all possible in Android, or will I need a 3rd party app? To complicate things further, is it possible to replace current commands with other ones, where I would record them into the phone? The reason I ask is because my first language is Welsh. This also means that most my text messages will be in Welsh, so I will need to be able to write them in letter-by-letter, and also have them read out to me letter-by-letter. Possible?
Secondly, what sort of car stereo should I get for this? One with Bluetooth of course, but what other features should I look out for that I might need? Or should I go for a Parrot system?
Any suggestions will be appreciated.
Thanks.
Hey All,
So, I've been searching all over for an answer to this, I've found a lot of information about S-Voice's problems being used over a bluetooth device but I haven't been able to find any direct discussion of the issue I'm experiencing.
What I've found is that when I have S-Voice's voice wake-up feature enabled, it'll work totally fine with bluetooth off. However, as soon as I toggle bluetooth on the wake-up feature just completely stops working. I don't even need to be connected to a device, as long as bluetooth is on S-Voice Wake-Up does not work. I can manually launch S-Voice and it will hear me just fine, but saying the wake-up command does nothing. As soon as I toggle bluetooth back off, it'll wake up again just fine. I do get that with a bluetooth device connected the microphone on the device needs to be active, so I could understand if this was happening while I was paired with a headset or something, but it seems really odd to me that just having bluetooth on at all would disable the wake-up command feature.
I did try Ok Google and found that it works whether bluetooth is on or off, but I really like the increased functionality that S-Voice offers and I think that for the most part the updates Samsung has done on it are great, so I'd like to get this working if possible.
Has anyone else experienced this, either on the Note 4 or on any of the other Galaxy devices? Anyone have any ideas or solutions?
Thanks!
I'm having the same issue with svoice, thought it was just the bluetooth in the car at first til I red your post
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I've got exactly the same problem.... Lovely new note 4 which is forcing me to use my hands on the phone whilst driving... Samsung need to think about this.
Apparently an issue for a few years due to Bluetooth /svoice conflicts, but not acceptable to leave it unaddressed.
I can still use my car system to skip music tracks on the phone, or dial numbers from the car stereo touch screen, but surely this is one of the most valuable areas for voice control?!
Bluetooth off then everything works fine, but Bluetooth on and svoice just fails. No wake up or voice recognition.
I don't use a headset, and the car doesn't have an inbuilt mic, so phone mic is used for calls (which is still fine incidentally.. Only svoice which is screwed.)
Looking forward to someone finding a simple solution to this, as I have spent hours in the menus trying to make a difference but Samsung might have just let us down I'm afraid... And if that's the case then I look forward to hearing them fix it, and update our ware to get everyone on track again.
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After much fckin about I managed to get this sorted and the answer is simple..... You can't have both apps always trying to recognise the voice all the time.
Go to the settings for ok Google and voice detection then always on... Uncheck it and suddenly svoice is working again... On my way to the car for final checking now,but preliminary checking says all should be good.
Nope
Ok... It works until the system is fully connected.
As soon as the connection is made then the handset microphone switches off again.
Note 4 s voice is officially dangerous to Road users and Samsung are ultimately proving themselves irresponsible for creating a system which forces use of hand and eye coordination when in Bluetooth and car mode.... Seriously Samsung... Sort this sht out.
When driving, set to hands free mode, this allows use of svoice on bluetooth
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Ok... It works until the system is fully connected.
As soon as the connection is made then the handset microphone switches off again.
Note 4 s voice is officially dangerous to Road users and Samsung are ultimately proving themselves irresponsible for creating a system which forces use of hand and eye coordination when in Bluetooth and car mode.... Seriously Samsung... Sort this sht out.
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Note 4 and above have it listed as car mode.
svoice works perfectly with blue tooth when car mode is enabled.
Set it up at home before you use it the first time.
I updated and paired with my Xperia-z3V, and was extremely pleased that I could call with it.
I unpaired and paired with my other Xperia z3v and calls wouldn't go through the watch speaker. It simply dials through the phone itself.
To unpair you have to factory reset. The 2ND phone has all the same apps of the other one.
I powered everything down, powered back up, did the factory reset again, still not ankle to make and take calls with the watch.
Wondering if this isn't a simple fix I'm overlooking. Any help is appreciated.
Open the Phone app on the watch itself and grant permission to make phone calls.
Every permission is granted. Power cycling, even another reset. Still the same. Acts like it did before the update. I can dial with it, but my phone comes on and all sound goes through it. The speaker works when I set the sound on the watch settings. Very frustrating.
Use the phone app on the watch to initiate the call.
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Yes, of course I am.
This seems to be a Bluetooth issue. I repaired it to my other phone and it works, but I can't find any settings on the phones that are different.
What makes me think it's a Bluetooth issue is that, while paired to the second phone, when I try to call from the watch, the outgoing call screen pops up on the phone and the "Speaker" option flickers between speaker and Bluetooth device for a second. It always reverts to the phone, but just to the regular phone ear speaker.
It's actually paired and functioning properly with my work phone, which is what I need it for. But it's just frustrating not understanding what's wrong.
On the watch... go to settings/Bluetooth and toggle on 'play phone audio on watch'.
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On the watch... go to settings/Bluetooth and toggle on 'play phone audio on watch'.
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Yes, this is checked on both Sony Xperia Z3v phones. Now Nisbet phone works properly to make and take calls. It'll do the command, but voice still defaults to the phone. Often when I receive a call I'll simply grab the phone and answer, but the watch will continue to ring.
Look on your phone side (Xperia z3v), go into your settings and then Bluetooth. This should list all devices paired with your phone. Look at the entry for your Asus Zenwatch. Does it show connected for call audio? Compare what the Bluetooth settings say on your working z3v verses the on that doesn't work. Good luck.
I'm having the same problem. In the bluetooth settings of my iphone 6splus it shows Asus Zenwatch 2 connected when I click it just has option to forget device nothing else.
Having the same problem. Watch's only bluetooth option in settings is scan for nearby devices (which finds none) or unpair device. On the phone's side (Nexus 6P) in my BT settings, it only shows "use for contact sharing." Watch doesn't tell me there's a phone call. Pretty useless IMO. I'm a week over returning it too
Hi guys, Does anybody know why I got a message "unfortunately message+ has stopped" while trying to setup calling feature. Any ideas?
No audio on watch only on phone
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Having the same problem. Watch's only bluetooth option in settings is scan for nearby devices (which finds none) or unpair device. On the phone's side (Nexus 6P) in my BT settings, it only shows "use for contact sharing." Watch doesn't tell me there's a phone call. Pretty useless IMO. I'm a week over returning it too
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I found another bluetooth device that had "Call Audio - on". I selected "off" on this device and "on" for the Zenwatch2 and now I get audio on watch and can make and receive calls thru the watch.
Still no success. Anybody found a solution?
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I found another bluetooth device that had "Call Audio - on". I selected "off" on this device and "on" for the Zenwatch2 and now I get audio on watch and can make and receive calls thru the watch.
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I previously had a Zenwatch 1 and now a 2. Trying to make and take calls. I did all above but still could not get the watch to make calls. It just make the call on the phone. Anybody found a solution. "Phone Audio" is enabled in Bluetooth settings and Phone Audio enabled in watch too.
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I previously had a Zenwatch 1 and now a 2. Trying to make and take calls. I did all above but still could not get the watch to make calls. It just make the call on the phone. Anybody found a solution. "Phone Audio" is enabled in Bluetooth settings and Phone Audio enabled in watch too.
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I think i has to do with the latest update or something, i cant talk on the watch anymore or take calls in the speaker
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I think i has to do with the latest update or something, i can't talk on the watch anymore or take calls in the speaker
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EDIT: NVM, not it worked, i check everything in the settings of BT and everything was ok, i unticked and tick to see, and did a restart. Tried a few attempts to make a call from the watch and nothing, switch the sound off and on, and now is working thru the speaker of the watch with the option of phone in the watch. I just hope for google to implement a button to switch from the watch speaker to the headphones or wireless headsets
Hello everyone, I am coming from a Moto X Pure which was able to read out my text messages and allow me to respond while in my vehicle driving. Not sure if it was a Moto specific capability or if Google Assistant was performing that function, or a combination of both. I do know that under Moto Voice I did have the Talk to me option enabled which says it will read aloud texts and phone calls. Doesn't say anything about me responding to messages, but that's where I think it could have been a combination of Moto and Google getting the job done.
Does the S9+ support anything like this, and if not, are there any options such as Android Auto that would work similarly? My vehicle isn't Android Auto enabled, but I think the app can work on it's own. I should add that when I say read my messages to me and allow me to respond, it's when I am listening to the radio and not streaming music via bluetooth. My Moto would interrupt and say I had a message from "XXXXX" and ask if I wanted to hear it. It would then ask if I would like to respond.
Lastly, I have a 2017 Subaru Forester Premium if that matters. Thanks as always for any help as I am a S9+ noob currently.
On my phone, the Samsung "Car Mode" app does this.
You may wish to search the Galaxy Apps store, locate and install "Car Mode", and see if it works for you too.
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On my phone, the Samsung "Car Mode" app does this.
You may wish to search the Galaxy Apps store, locate and install "Car Mode", and see if it works for you too.
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I installed it and I'll see if it works. So this will interrupt your radio listening and read to you the incoming message? Does it automatically enable when you are driving or do you have to enable it manually each time? Thanks.
Don't know about the "interrupt your radio listening" part.
On my vehicle, unless you've selected the BlueTooth source on the car's audio system, you will not hear anything from the phone other than from the speaker of the phone itself.
Maybe your car is different.
In my car, when using the phone's BlueTooth as the audio-source, it will notify (if configured to do so) of incoming messages - and allow for voice-driven responses as well.
It does have the ability to automatically enable the phone's car-mode when the BlueTooth connection is (re)established.
See: Settings
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Don't know about the "interrupt your radio listening" part.
On my vehicle, unless you've selected the BlueTooth source on the car's audio system, you will not hear anything from the phone other than from the speaker of the phone itself.
Maybe your car is different.
In my car, when using the phone's BlueTooth as the audio-source, it will notify (if configured to do so) of incoming messages - and allow for voice-driven responses as well.
It does have the ability to automatically enable the phone's car-mode when the BlueTooth connection is (re)established.
See: Settings
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I was using Android Auto the other day and it would interrupt and let me know that I had an incoming message from "xxxxxx", but it wouldn't actually read the message. I think my Moto X Pure had a capability built in to perform the action I am looking for. Not sure I am going to be able to get that with my new Samsung. I gonna try out the app you recommended today and see what happens. Hopefully I will find someway to make it work again.
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Don't know about the "interrupt your radio listening" part.
On my vehicle, unless you've selected the BlueTooth source on the car's audio system, you will not hear anything from the phone other than from the speaker of the phone itself.
Maybe your car is different.
In my car, when using the phone's BlueTooth as the audio-source, it will notify (if configured to do so) of incoming messages - and allow for voice-driven responses as well.
It does have the ability to automatically enable the phone's car-mode when the BlueTooth connection is (re)established.
See: Settings
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It's a no go, car mode does absolutely nothing when connected to my cars bluetooth. Doesn't read out messages at all, not even when I change from radio listening to bluetooth streaming. This is extremely disappointing in a phone that costs this much and is running the latest Android OS. It seems Samsung just isn't useful for interfacing with car head units. My Motorola did this amazingly well. If someone has some insight on how to make this work, please fill me in. Why can't Android just work properly across all mobile platforms? It's kind of ridiculous and very annoying. Samsung makes a beautiful device but it seems less capable for hands free operation than all the Motorola phones I have had. Please help, this is a big deal for me.
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It's a no go, car mode does absolutely nothing when connected to my cars bluetooth. Doesn't read out messages at all, not even when I change from radio listening to bluetooth streaming. This is extremely disappointing in a phone that costs this much and is running the latest Android OS. It seems Samsung just isn't useful for interfacing with car head units. My Motorola did this amazingly well. If someone has some insight on how to make this work, please fill me in. Why can't Android just work properly across all mobile platforms? It's kind of ridiculous and very annoying. Samsung makes a beautiful device but it seems less capable for hands free operation than all the Motorola phones I have had. Please help, this is a big deal for me.
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Sorry to hear that.
All Car Mode functionality works perfectly in my vehicle.
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Sorry to hear that.
All Car Mode functionality works perfectly in my vehicle.
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Are there any specific settings that you have to enable? So when a message comes in it automatically reads it through your cars speakers and then allows you to respond with a message using voice only, no touching of the device whatsoever? For me it's odd, the Car Mode works when I'm not connected to my cars BT. It plays the message through my phones speakers and I can respond, but in my car it's useless. I can't hear it through my head unit.
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If you can hear Car Mode working from your phone speaker, and not from your car's audio system, I would suggest troubleshooting the Bluetooth audio connection first.
Play some audio on your phone while connected to the car's Bluetooth connection. If you can't hear that, then Car Mode isn't going to be heard either.
Perhaps checking the phone's Bluetooth connection media-volume setting might be in order.
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If you can hear Car Mode working from your phone speaker, and not from your car's audio system, I would suggest troubleshooting the Bluetooth audio connection first.
Play some audio on your phone while connected to the car's Bluetooth connection. If you can't hear that, then Car Mode isn't going to be heard either.
Perhaps checking the phone's Bluetooth connection media-volume setting might be in order.
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I should have mentioned streaming music works just fine and I've made sure the volumes were all up. It's weird but it doesn't seem to work with my car. I could hear the little ding prompt but when car mode was saying something I heard nothing. I downloaded Read Texts 2 Me and it works perfectly. Interrupts the radio when a text comes in and reads it to me. Also works perfectly while I'm listening to streaming music over Bluetooth. I think it's going to be my fix, android auto and Samsung car mode just aren't working for me. Maybe I'm missing something but it shouldn't be this difficult. It wasn't on my Moto.
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The only other thing that comes to mind is checking the Bluetooth connection properties.
While connected to the vehicle via Bluetooth:
Settings -> Connections -> Bluetooth
Tap the "cog" icon next to the connection for your vehicle.
Under the "Use For" section, are all of the options turned on?
As long as you've found what works for you, I guess you're good.
On my 5-year-old Ford, with Sync-2, Car Mode works without issue.