I don't mean to beat a dead horse, as I'm sure it's been brought up. But every search I've done just brings up how to update to OC1 without losing root. All the way back to the original Motorola Droid, I've always rooted and added a custom recovery and ROM to every phone I've had. I was running Hyperdrive RLS20 and loved it. I've been using Hyperdrive since my Galaxy S3. Then I saw Hyperdrive RLS21 came out and decided I wanted to give it a shot. And although I've flashed over a few hundred ROMs no problem, this time really screwed my phone. I could only get into DL mode. I tried about 25 different ways until I had Kies fix it, which put it on 5.0.1. Can I revert down with Odin? Or is there anything I can do to get root and SU back. Any help would be much, MUCH appreciated
Nope, by taking the latest OTA (or in this case Kies) you've locked yourself into the latest version, for which there is currently no Root
That sucks. No way to use Odin in order to downgrade or anything? This is the first time since I've ever owned an android phone that I've been stuck without root
52brandon said:
That sucks. No way to use Odin in order to downgrade or anything? This is the first time since I've ever owned an android phone that I've been stuck without root
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Nope. Locked Bootloader sucks.
Every single time there is an update these individuals always end up in this situation! !! No matter how many times they're told to wait and just not update!!!
Charlie115 said:
Every single time there is an update these individuals always end up in this situation! !! No matter how many times they're told to wait and just not update!!!
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Don't lump me In with that crowd. I had no intention on going to 5.0.1. If you read my original post, I was upgrading to Hyperdrive KK21 from KK20 (and yes, I followed every single instruction to the T. My only guess is that the USB connection got messed up and only flashed a portion causing the problems) and it **** the bed mid-update. I couldn't get into SS recovery or even stock recovery, only DL mode. I spent 2 days without a working phone trying to flash every single Odin file that retained root and they all failed. So I used Kies to try to repair it and ended up ****ed on 5.0.1. The one solution I didn't want. I've NEVER had an android since the D1 that wasn't rooted running a custom ROM. Which is why I'm so desperately trying to get back to rooted. While 5.0.1 is actually a very nice OS, not having all the root options is killing me. And since its now 2 generations old, my hopes that a root exploit will be found, or that people even care enough to try to find one are extremely low. But, I sure hope I'm wrong, and that an exploit for one of the newer generations Galaxies will work on this one too. I'm OCD about having root and this is killing me
52brandon said:
I couldn't get into SS recovery or even stock recovery, only DL mode. I spent 2 days without a working phone trying to flash every single Odin file that retained root and they all failed.
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If you're ever in this situation again, give up on retaining your current root, flash back to true stock (with a re-partition .pit file as well), and re-root. If you had flashed the nc5 full-wipe with the .pit file and just restored root from a clean system, you would have been fine.
52brandon said:
Don't lump me In with that crowd. I had no intention on going to 5.0.1. If you read my original post, I was upgrading to Hyperdrive KK21 from KK20 (and yes, I followed every single instruction to the T. My only guess is that the USB connection got messed up and only flashed a portion causing the problems) and it **** the bed mid-update. I couldn't get into SS recovery or even stock recovery, only DL mode. I spent 2 days without a working phone trying to flash every single Odin file that retained root and they all failed. So I used Kies to try to repair it and ended up ****ed on 5.0.1. The one solution I didn't want. I've NEVER had an android since the D1 that wasn't rooted running a custom ROM. Which is why I'm so desperately trying to get back to rooted. While 5.0.1 is actually a very nice OS, not having all the root options is killing me. And since its now 2 generations old, my hopes that a root exploit will be found, or that people even care enough to try to find one are extremely low. But, I sure hope I'm wrong, and that an exploit for one of the newer generations Galaxies will work on this one too. I'm OCD about having root and this is killing me
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Well, you should have known better than to use kies...
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Honestly I don't even think that devlopers will make much effort to even find out how to root this version as its says that this is one of two updates before getting lollypop.
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52brandon said:
I don't mean to beat a dead horse, as I'm sure it's been brought up. But every search I've done just brings up how to update to OC1 without losing root. All the way back to the original Motorola Droid, I've always rooted and added a custom recovery and ROM to every phone I've had. I was running Hyperdrive RLS20 and loved it. I've been using Hyperdrive since my Galaxy S3. Then I saw Hyperdrive RLS21 came out and decided I wanted to give it a shot. And although I've flashed over a few hundred ROMs no problem, this time really screwed my phone. I could only get into DL mode. I tried about 25 different ways until I had Kies fix it, which put it on 5.0.1. Can I revert down with Odin? Or is there anything I can do to get root and SU back. Any help would be much, MUCH appreciated
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KingRoot 4.1 rooted my galaxy s4 on oc1....and try flashing an nc5 tar in flashfire
You cannot flash anything with flashfire. If you flash that tar, you WILL brick.
Question
Just wondering, i have rooted my OC1 with Kingroot 4.1, now, can someone make a guide showing how to downgrade from OC1?
PD:. Sorry for my horrible english.
Epiphany^ said:
Just wondering, i have rooted my OC1 with Kingroot 4.1, now, can someone make a guide showing how to downgrade from OC1?
PD:. Sorry for my horrible english.
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You can't downgrade from OC1.
Downgrade isn't a root issue, it is a bootloader issue. Unless the bootloader gets unlocked, we're stuck on OC1
kingroot does work
I had done the dumb thing and was impatient and did the oc1 update to later find out you can not downgrade and im on Verizon Samsung galaxy s4 (sch-i545) which even on kit kat is very limited to rooting it.. but on a whim I seen a post about king root and it mentioned that and I did see this myself but it will say not supported like it did on mine. but I figured what the hell.. whats the worst that could happen... well im rooted now and only tried because I had seen others make that comment.. well kingroot works for s4 Verizon with locked bootloader.. no need to downgrade from oc1.. just get the app and click... took less than 10 mins if I rememner right.. and I have had no pronlems in 3 days.. it oddly even fixed some of the bugs I was having with oc1 like incoming calls not ringing
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I had done the dumb thing and was impatient and did the oc1 update to later find out you can not downgrade and im on Verizon Samsung galaxy s4 (sch-i545) which even on kit kat is very limited to rooting it.. but on a whim I seen a post about king root and it mentioned that and I did see this myself but it will say not supported like it did on mine. but I figured what the hell.. whats the worst that could happen... well im rooted now and only tried because I had seen others make that comment.. well kingroot works for s4 Verizon with locked bootloader.. no need to downgrade from oc1.. just get the app and click... took less than 10 mins if I rememner right.. and I have had no pronlems in 3 days.. it oddly even fixed some of the bugs I was having with oc1 like incoming calls not ringing
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You have root. But you have a much lower chance of getting an unlocked Bootloader than anyone on NC5/NK1/NK4. They have root, module loading, and a potential for kexec to run custom kernels.
Don't upgrade to OC1 via OTA if you haven't already everyone! Use Muniz_ri's keeproot upgrade method!
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bigg6987 said:
Downgrade isn't a root issue, it is a bootloader issue. Unless the bootloader gets unlocked, we're stuck on OC1
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Even then you're stuck. Rollback has little to do with the BL. Rollback is set at a much lower level (physically).
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Hey everyone,
So I'm having a bit of an issue. I currently own (and love) a Verizon Galaxy S4 (model number: SCH-I545). I rooted my phone back at the end of November, right after the MJ7 framework release and it's been splendid. I've gotten rid of all the bloatware using Titanium Backup and my phone absolutely soars through every program I run on it as well as works as a great business device.
I'm currently encountering two problems:
1. I can't seem to find a ClockwordMod or any type of recovery software that'll actually work and install correctly. I've tried the GooManager one and the ClockworkMod app one, and nearly bricked my phone in the process of doing so. As I'm sure you all know, not being able to have a recovery program makes it a pain in the butt to deal with. I was gonna flash CyanogenMod (like I once had on my Galaxy Tab) and go with it; however, standard rooted S4 seems to do the trick and is fast and some of the Samsung stuff isn't half bad, to be fair.
2. I need to find a MK2 zip that once I do get a recovery pushed, I can update the root for stability fixes. I've searched up and down and just can't find an MK2 pushable zip that won't be like the OTA one and make me lose my root.
So XDA, can you all point me in the right direction to get both of these fixed?
No
JacobNWolf said:
Hey everyone,
So I'm having a bit of an issue. I currently own (and love) a Verizon Galaxy S4 (model number: SCH-I545). I rooted my phone back at the end of November, right after the MJ7 framework release and it's been splendid. I've gotten rid of all the bloatware using Titanium Backup and my phone absolutely soars through every program I run on it as well as works as a great business device.
I'm currently encountering two problems:
1. I can't seem to find a ClockwordMod or any type of recovery software that'll actually work and install correctly. I've tried the GooManager one and the ClockworkMod app one, and nearly bricked my phone in the process of doing so. As I'm sure you all know, not being able to have a recovery program makes it a pain in the butt to deal with. I was gonna flash CyanogenMod (like I once had on my Galaxy Tab) and go with it; however, standard rooted S4 seems to do the trick and is fast and some of the Samsung stuff isn't half bad, to be fair.
2. I need to find a MK2 zip that once I do get a recovery pushed, I can update the root for stability fixes. I've searched up and down and just can't find an MK2 pushable zip that won't be like the OTA one and make me lose my root.
So XDA, can you all point me in the right direction to get both of these fixed?
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There's no custom recovery available for your build. Only Safestrap. There's a few stickies you might want to read in the General section.
As far as MK2, I think your only option would be to use Odin and re-root using Saferoot.
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JacobNWolf said:
Hey everyone,
So I'm having a bit of an issue. I currently own (and love) a Verizon Galaxy S4 (model number: SCH-I545). I rooted my phone back at the end of November, right after the MJ7 framework release and it's been splendid. I've gotten rid of all the bloatware using Titanium Backup and my phone absolutely soars through every program I run on it as well as works as a great business device.
I'm currently encountering two problems:
1. I can't seem to find a ClockwordMod or any type of recovery software that'll actually work and install correctly. I've tried the GooManager one and the ClockworkMod app one, and nearly bricked my phone in the process of doing so. As I'm sure you all know, not being able to have a recovery program makes it a pain in the butt to deal with. I was gonna flash CyanogenMod (like I once had on my Galaxy Tab) and go with it; however, standard rooted S4 seems to do the trick and is fast and some of the Samsung stuff isn't half bad, to be fair.
2. I need to find a MK2 zip that once I do get a recovery pushed, I can update the root for stability fixes. I've searched up and down and just can't find an MK2 pushable zip that won't be like the OTA one and make me lose my root.
So XDA, can you all point me in the right direction to get both of these fixed?
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You can't find a custom recovery for your phone because there isn't one.
Please, before you brick your phone - disconnect the USB cable, walk away, then go read this sticky thread in the general forum.
Then read this thread.
The only thing available for post-MDK Verizon GS4s is Safestrap.
k1mu said:
You can't find a custom recovery for your phone because there isn't one.
Please, before you brick your phone - disconnect the USB cable, walk away, then go read this sticky thread in the general forum.
Then read this thread.
The only thing available for post-MDK Verizon GS4s is Safestrap.
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I was reading the Safestrap recovery link that you linked and I noticed it was for locked bootloaders. How do you identify what bootloader you have? When I turn on the phone, it has the "Unlocked" sign, so it may be that I'm on the old bootloader. Any idea?
JacobNWolf said:
I was reading the Safestrap recovery link that you linked and I noticed it was for locked bootloaders. How do you identify what bootloader you have? When I turn on the phone, it has the "Unlocked" sign, so it may be that I'm on the old bootloader. Any idea?
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You have a locked bootloader. You will have to use safestrap. Be sure to read. Lots of helpful links and tips in the general section. Yesterday I upgraded to mk2. Used saferoot. Installed safestrap. Loaded up hyperdrive. Runs great.
Pmmac said:
You have a locked bootloader. You will have to use safestrap. Be sure to read. Lots of helpful links and tips in the general section. Yesterday I upgraded to mk2. Used saferoot. Installed safestrap. Loaded up hyperdrive. Runs great.
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Do you have the zip/update package for mk2? Can't seem to find it myself
JacobNWolf said:
Hey everyone,
So I'm having a bit of an issue. I currently own (and love) a Verizon Galaxy S4 (model number: SCH-I545). I rooted my phone back at the end of November, right after the MJ7 framework release and it's been splendid. I've gotten rid of all the bloatware using Titanium Backup and my phone absolutely soars through every program I run on it as well as works as a great business device.
I'm currently encountering two problems:
1. I can't seem to find a ClockwordMod or any type of recovery software that'll actually work and install correctly. I've tried the GooManager one and the ClockworkMod app one, and nearly bricked my phone in the process of doing so. As I'm sure you all know, not being able to have a recovery program makes it a pain in the butt to deal with. I was gonna flash CyanogenMod (like I once had on my Galaxy Tab) and go with it; however, standard rooted S4 seems to do the trick and is fast and some of the Samsung stuff isn't half bad, to be fair.
2. I need to find a MK2 zip that once I do get a recovery pushed, I can update the root for stability fixes. I've searched up and down and just can't find an MK2 pushable zip that won't be like the OTA one and make me lose my root.
So XDA, can you all point me in the right direction to get both of these fixed?
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take some time to read...this is a stickie
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
decaturbob said:
take some time to read...this is a stickie
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
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I'm not a n00b to this at all. I now have Safestrap, it runs fine. I rooted it by myself and have done a lot to it since (November 2013). I get how these things work, but I can't for the life of me find an update zip for MK2. That's all I'm looking for at this point.
JacobNWolf said:
I'm not a n00b to this at all. I now have Safestrap, it runs fine. I rooted it by myself and have done a lot to it since (November 2013). I get how these things work, but I can't for the life of me find an update zip for MK2. That's all I'm looking for at this point.
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I think you have to search for an MK2 tar file to use with Odin.
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The success is real!
riker147 said:
I think you have to search for an MK2 tar file to use with Odin.
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FOUND IT! WOOP, thanks for the help guys; for anyone else trying to find one, use the "No-Wipe" in this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209 and flash with ODIN 3.09, located here: http://rootjunkysdl.com/getdownload.php?file=Galaxy S4/Firmware Odin MK2/Odin3-v3.09.zip
I just wanted to confirm that you can Odin back to MJ9 4.3 from the newest ND3 4.3 to regain root. This is for 4.3 bootlocked GN2s ONLY. It was quite painless actually, all my data was as it was before. I backed up to the internal memory using Helium just in case (since I lost root), but I was able use saferoot without issue and am now back to rooted.
I had used Kingo before to root, so I am actually glad to use saferoot this time since I am planning to install SafeStrap and flash N3BULA over stock soon.
gee1000 said:
I just wanted to confirm that you can Odin back to MJ9 4.3 from the newest ND3 4.3 to regain root. This is for 4.3 bootlocked GN2s ONLY. It was quite painless actually, all my data was as it was before. I backed up to the internal memory using Helium just in case (since I lost root), but I was able use saferoot without issue and am now back to rooted.
I had used Kingo before to root, so I am actually glad to use saferoot this time since I am planning to install SafeStrap and flash N3BULA over stock soon.
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Confirmed. Just ODIN'd back to MJ3 from the VRUAND3 update and regained root using Saferoot.
seriously whaaat can u post the needed files and step by step directions ive never used odin before
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mrraya said:
seriously whaaat can u post the needed files and step by step directions ive never used odin before
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207&nocache=1
Be sure to thank @droidstyle for taking the time to make this guide
Another confirmation, Odin'd back to MJ9 from ND3 then used saferoot to root.
Can also confirm working for me and rooted also. Does anyone know how we can stop the OTA notification or do we just ignore it?
stop the ota notification note 2
Ostate24 said:
Can also confirm working for me and rooted also. Does anyone know how we can stop the OTA notification or do we just ignore it?
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Change
FWupgrade.apk to FWupgrade.bak
SDM.apk to SDM.bak
I am not allow to post a link at this time so do a search on "stop the ota notification note 2"
Regain root, ND3 question,Correct MJ9, ODIN7
gee1000 said:
I just wanted to confirm that you can Odin back to MJ9 4.3 from the newest ND3 4.3 to regain root. This is for 4.3 bootlocked GN2s ONLY. It was quite painless actually, all my data was as it was before. I backed up to the internal memory using Helium just in case (since I lost root), but I was able use saferoot without issue and am now back to rooted.
I had used Kingo before to root, so I am actually glad to use saferoot this time since I am planning to install SafeStrap and flash N3BULA over stock soon.
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This is what I have been looking for except it says to "REGAIN" root.. I have never had it (ROOT) to start with.. So will this still work?
and
where do I get the correct MJ9 since I did not get it off my phone before I lost it.?? or am I ODIN back to out of the box state which is VRALJB?
Odin 7 or Odin 9
I have read ODIN7 ? but Odin9 is newest as far as I can tell...want to double check.
thanks so much!!!!
mrraya said:
seriously whaaat can u post the needed files and step by step directions ive never used odin before
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thebat1 said:
This is what I have been looking for except it says to "REGAIN" root.. I have never had it (ROOT) to start with.. So will this still work?
and
where do I get the correct MJ9 since I did not get it off my phone before I lost it.?? or am I ODIN back to out of the box state which is VRALJB?
Odin 7 or Odin 9
I have read ODIN7 ? but Odin9 is newest as far as I can tell...want to double check.
thanks so much!!!!
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thebat1, since I am assuming you are on bootlocked ND3 from your screenshot, you will mess up/brick your phone trying to flash VRALJB. You can only go back to MJ9 at this point. The thread I used which is the same posted by iooooooc -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...4207&nocache=1 says "4.1.1 VRALJB- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2043636 (Unless you purchased your device within the first month of release and never took the OTA update, DO NOT use this)".
I am pretty sure it doesn't matter if you rooted under MJ9 or not. I was able to Odin without root and I wouldn't see why not being rooted when on MJ9 would not enable you to use Odin (since the whole point of Odin is to flash Samsung phones). I'd make a Helium backup just in case though.
You can read the thread I linked and posted by iooooooc to find out how to reflash. It's the same one I used. It has links to Odin and the MJ9 firmware (look for "VRUEMJ9 4.3" with the warning "ONLY USE THIS IF YOU TOOK THE 4.3 OTA!!") and the PIT file you'll need.
You can also read about and get links to all flavors of Odin (you need v3.07 for the VZ Note II) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...08-2013-odin-3-09-odin-1-85-versions-t2189539
Finally, to root, here's the main thread for Saferoot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Everything I read is pretty straightforward.
I also haven't received any notification to upgrade back even though I haven't used the .bak renaming method which is interesting.
Worked great!!!! Thanks for the links guys!!!
Worked Here Too!
gee1000 said:
I just wanted to confirm that you can Odin back to MJ9 4.3 from the newest ND3 4.3 to regain root. This is for 4.3 bootlocked GN2s ONLY. It was quite painless actually, all my data was as it was before. I backed up to the internal memory using Helium just in case (since I lost root), but I was able use saferoot without issue and am now back to rooted.
I had used Kingo before to root, so I am actually glad to use saferoot this time since I am planning to install SafeStrap and flash N3BULA over stock soon.
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I decided to bite-the-bullet after reading your post, and all I had to do was re-root as well. All said and done it took me 30 minutes tops to have my phone back. I also used Kingo last time, but after ND3, the version of Kingo I used to root MJ9 didn't recognize the phone and the latest version was so full of dire warnings I immediately aborted.
Thanks guys!
dbalman said:
I decided to bite-the-bullet after reading your post, and all I had to do was re-root as well. All said and done it took me 30 minutes tops to have my phone back. I also used Kingo last time, but after ND3, the version of Kingo I used to root MJ9 didn't recognize the phone and the latest version was so full of dire warnings I immediately aborted.
Thanks guys!
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I just received a replacement for my broken Note 2, which I previously had rooted with N3bula. To root my old phone, given it came with 4.1, I just had to Odin the MJ9 files, and then flash N3bula with TWRP . When I got my replacement, it updated to ND3 before I realized what was going on. Does anyone know what files I actually need to flash to get back to MJ9 from ND3? I found a file called I605VRUEMJ9.tar on one of the links posted recently. Since the actual ROM on the phone is the stock 4.3 rom, I assume I don't need to worry about system.img. I don't know about boot.img, cache.img, recovery.img, sboot.bin. I am confident I should flash tz.img, modem.bin, hidden.img.
Thanks!
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gee1000 said:
I just wanted to confirm that you can Odin back to MJ9 4.3 from the newest ND3 4.3 to regain root. This is for 4.3 bootlocked GN2s ONLY. It was quite painless actually, all my data was as it was before. I backed up to the internal memory using Helium just in case (since I lost root), but I was able use saferoot without issue and am now back to rooted.
I had used Kingo before to root, so I am actually glad to use saferoot this time since I am planning to install SafeStrap and flash N3BULA over stock soon.
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Is there a particular reason you wish to use safestrap rather than continuing to use Kingo? Is Kingo not working?
Thx!!
nbock01 said:
Worked great!!!! Thanks for the links guys!!!
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thebat1, since I am assuming you are on bootlocked ND3 from your screenshot, you will mess up/brick your phone trying to flash VRALJB. You can only go back to MJ9 at this point. The thread I used which is the same posted by iooooooc -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...4207&nocache=1 says "4.1.1 VRALJB- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2043636 (Unless you purchased your device within the first month of release and never took the OTA update, DO NOT use this)".
Neither of those links are good.
Thanks!!
@Skilover
If you go to Droidstyle's guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34891181 , and then go to section 1b of the guide, you can revert back to MJ9 by following the guide's instructions. You'll want to use the stock file for (VRUEMJ9 4.3) if you're wanting to revert back from ND3.
After you get back to MJ9, you can get root access with saferoot..... Here's the link to saferoot-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?p=48392009
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Amazing..WTG, XDA!
New user here. Been reading a bunch of posts lately as I finally got around to trying to root my SCH-1605, which I have through VZW. For a long time, my big concern was interference on the VZW side. Finally, warranties expired and the urge peaked... just in time for the ND3 OTA update. I tried a couple of methods I found - no success. Finally stumbled on some threads that basically said - ND3 = Out of Luck.
Then I found this post.. :victory:
Truly awesome. Worked like a charm. Looking up good info on locking down the OTA pushes next.
My observations of the differences between my previous attempts and what was missing:
My first attempts:
I neglected to include the 16GB PIT file referenced in the links above (** Note: a few guides I popped across mentioned making sure that only "Auto Reboot" and "F. Reset Time" are checked. When you include the PIT file, it will auto-check "Re-Partition". I left this checked, and it worked like a charm. Can't speak as to the offset of UNchecking this, as - like I said - I left it checked)
I used a different .md5 file that would flag as a fail despite my efforts (I was using a CF autoroot md5). I'm fairly certain this failed due to the OTA update, though it may have been the lack of a PIT file. If someone could provide some more info there, I'm totally open to listen!
Bottom line - my experience was pretty painless after doing adequate research. Thanks a ton! :highfive:
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I also came across some info stating that the downgrade to the MJ firmware might flag the KNOX (I believe?) or a similar issue. Anyone run across any of those issues using these methods? If someone has a quick link to how I could check this for myself, I'd be very appreciative.
@Tangescence
Glad to hear you had success with rooting . This link should help you check on your knox counter status:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48758233&highlight=odin#post48758233
If "Knox Warranty Void" is at zero, you didn't trip the counter.
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Knox warranty void: 0
Confirmed. The flashback left KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0
Lists as Samsung Official Binary with a System Status of Custom.
Looks good!
I know this is a bit of a side tangent, but safestrap should work with MJ9 and saferoot to allow custom ROMs despite the locked bootloader - right?
Again, many thanks to the community!
Right, safestrap was designed to be used for people with the locked bootloader on a rooted MJ9. Here is the safestrap thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51616723
I don't know a lot about safestrap, but I believe the ROM slots are not working yet so you'll have to install a custom Rom over the stock ROM if you want to use it. You'll have to do more research to make sure you know how to use it if you want to give it a go.
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Right, safestrap was designed to be used for people with the locked bootloader on a rooted MJ9. Here is the safestrap thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51616723
I don't know a lot about safestrap, but I believe the ROM slots are not working yet so you'll have to install a custom Rom over the stock ROM if you want to use it. You'll have to do more research to make sure you know how to use it if you want to give it a go.
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Awesome - I'll be researching it tonight and tomorrow. Will post to the safestrap thread with my results and probably a heads up here to redirect. Again, tons of thanks!
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My Verizon Note 2 broke so under warranty I got a replacement device with the latest VRUAND3 build installed. It literally drove me nuts because I was so used to having the advantage of a rooted device with the bootloader unlocked. After doing some research, I came across the information on this thread and it helped me with having at least root access which allows me to take advantage of my Titanium Backup and other apps tailored to rooted devices.
Thank you very much for this post. I hope the devs will one up on Verizon and give the community the ability to have a unlocked bootloader soon. I like the connection speed and coverage with Verizon but their method of controlling how their customers use their devices is just annoying. I paid good money for this phone Verizon! I'm going to do what I wish to do with it to make it unique and personal to me. They just don't seem to understand that. Once again... Thanks. ROOT 4TW!
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thebat1, since I am assuming you are on bootlocked ND3 from your screenshot, you will mess up/brick your phone trying to flash VRALJB. You can only go back to MJ9 at this point. The thread I used which is the same posted by iooooooc -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...4207&nocache=1 says "4.1.1 VRALJB- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2043636 (Unless you purchased your device within the first month of release and never took the OTA update, DO NOT use this)".
I am pretty sure it doesn't matter if you rooted under MJ9 or not. I was able to Odin without root and I wouldn't see why not being rooted when on MJ9 would not enable you to use Odin (since the whole point of Odin is to flash Samsung phones). I'd make a Helium backup just in case though.
You can read the thread I linked and posted by iooooooc to find out how to reflash. It's the same one I used. It has links to Odin and the MJ9 firmware (look for "VRUEMJ9 4.3" with the warning "ONLY USE THIS IF YOU TOOK THE 4.3 OTA!!") and the PIT file you'll need.
You can also read about and get links to all flavors of Odin (you need v3.07 for the VZ Note II) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...08-2013-odin-3-09-odin-1-85-versions-t2189539
Finally, to root, here's the main thread for Saferoot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Everything I read is pretty straightforward.
I also haven't received any notification to upgrade back even though I haven't used the .bak renaming method which is interesting.
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I was one of the idiots that accidentally upgraded to the newest firmware when it first came out. My device is totally rooted, but I've been reading that I'm required to use things such as SafeStrap or Loki to install custom roms. I'm not sure if this is still the case as its been months since this was discovered. I've been trying to search the forums extensively for a fix, but I've been unable to find one. One thing I came across: here seems to be a very simple way to install TWRP on the Galaxy S4, however, I don't wan to run the risk of bricking my phone and being SOL because I have ****ty firmware and no way to custom recover my phone.
Point blank, would I be able to install TWRP manager via GooManager given that I've updated to NC5? Or even if not, what are my options for custom recovery/roms? End game, I want to walk away with 5.0.1 GPE or Cyanogenmod 12. Hopefully.
I'd really appreciate any and all help. Attached is a screenshot of my phone information.
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I was one of the idiots that accidentally upgraded to the newest firmware when it first came out. My device is totally rooted, but I've been reading that I'm required to use things such as SafeStrap or Loki to install custom roms. I'm not sure if this is still the case as its been months since this was discovered. I've been trying to search the forums extensively for a fix, but I've been unable to find one. One thing I came across: here seems to be a very simple way to install TWRP on the Galaxy S4, however, I don't wan to run the risk of bricking my phone and being SOL because I have ****ty firmware and no way to custom recover my phone.
Point blank, would I be able to install TWRP manager via GooManager given that I've updated to NC5? Or even if not, what are my options for custom recovery/roms? End game, I want to walk away with 5.0.1 GPE or Cyanogenmod 12. Hopefully.
I'd really appreciate any and all help. Attached is a screenshot of my phone information.
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Once you updated to anything past MDK there's no going back . Safestrap is the only option to install Touchwiz ROMS.
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Once you updated to anything past MDK there's no going back . Safestrap is the only option to install Touchwiz ROMS.
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Damn! That's what I figured. I followed [this guide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLHZfPwLkPM) and installed the SafeStrap APK, but stopped at the "install recovery" step. I've been reading that this can soft brick your phone. Do you have any input? Is it safe to do? If it does brick my phone will I be able to factory reset with Odin?
Sorry for the barrage of questions, I'm a bit of a noob.
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Well, I decided to go ahead with it. It worked fine. I rebooted to SafeStrap and went right to do a backup. It failed. I tried to reboot into my stock rom, and it was 0MB. I really might blow up Verizon HQ.
zQueal said:
Damn! That's what I figured. I followed [this guide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLHZfPwLkPM) and installed the SafeStrap APK, but stopped at the "install recovery" step. I've been reading that this can soft brick your phone. Do you have any input? Is it safe to do? If it does brick my phone will I be able to factory reset with Odin?
Sorry for the barrage of questions, I'm a bit of a noob.
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Well, I decided to go ahead with it. It worked fine. I rebooted to SafeStrap and went right to do a backup. It failed. I tried to reboot into my stock rom, and it was 0MB. I really might blow up Verizon HQ.
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I never used SafeStrap so I doubt I will be much help. But once you rebooted your stock ROM is no longer there? Might have to just flash a stock image via ODIN and try again. Verizon isn't going to help you either with modding your phone, XDA is the place to be.
Has there been anything new since this thread was posted or is it impossible still?
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Has there been anything new since this thread was posted or is it impossible still?
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Sorry buddy you're SOL
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If you are rooted use a terminal editor app and type:
getprop ro.bootloader
If it says anything other than I545VRUAMDK your only choice is SafeStrap.
That means if you bought an S4 and it came with MK1, NC5, NK1, or anything other than MDK you cannot flash a custom recovery. The same applies if you took an OTA from VZW. This has been stated 1000's of times here.
Hint:
Look on the box that your S4 came in and read the last three characters where it says what build the phone has.
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Has there been anything new since this thread was posted or is it impossible still?
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Keep checking up on SS they are working on the ability to also use custom kernels on top which would make it essentially as efficient as a custom recovery, with some storage loss.
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Well, I decided to go ahead with it. It worked fine. I rebooted to SafeStrap and went right to do a backup. It failed. I tried to reboot into my stock rom, and it was 0MB. I really might blow up Verizon HQ.[/QUOTE]
***Make sure you are using the correct version of safestrap for your current baseband
another good app from the google play store to download is samsung info
I have used safestrap in the past as I was in the same scenario as you. I currently now have a MDK phone
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Keep checking up on SS they are working on the ability to also use custom kernels on top which would make it essentially as efficient as a custom recovery, with some storage loss.
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How come they haven't been able to unlock the bootloader when only the build version is changing......
There should have been an exploit awhile ago....and why haven't they made an odin option for MDK yet?
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How come they haven't been able to unlock the bootloader when only the build version is changing......
There should have been an exploit awhile ago....and why haven't they made an odin option for MDK yet?
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The exploit was weeded out after MDK
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The bootloader was never "unlocked" on MDK, there was just an exploit available that allowed the installation of a custom recovery. That exploit was closed in the first update from MDK and a new one has not been discovered. The bootloader itself has some pretty strong encryption so it may never be unlocked.
The wife wants to update to new phone. Can the verizon LG G3 as of right now 01-25-15, be rooted and bootloader unlocked or is a lost cause being verizon? Thanks for any tips.
kgirlx said:
The wife wants to update to new phone. Can the verizon LG G3 as of right now 01-25-15, be rooted and bootloader unlocked or is a lost cause being verizon? Thanks for any tips.
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You are still good to go. Depending on which firmware it has you might have to downgrade to root and unlock, but there are some pretty good guides on how to do that in this forum.
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You are still good to go. Depending on which firmware it has you might have to downgrade to root and unlock, but there are some pretty good guides on how to do that in this forum.
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OK, so I would have to downgrade possibly. I just hate having to go backwards but, if that's what it takes to root and unlock. Would you happen to know which firmware is it that has to go back to root and such. We are both on Galaxy s3, she's wants new, I'm fine with my rooted and unlocked gs3, I actually thought about the n6, but who knows own. THANKS.
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OK, so I would have to downgrade possibly. I just hate having to go backwards but, if that's what it takes to root and unlock. Would you happen to know which firmware is it that has to go back to root and such. We are both on Galaxy s3, she's wants new, I'm fine with my rooted and unlocked gs3, I actually thought about the n6, but who knows own. THANKS.
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10b is what you want to be on. Once you root that and installed the bumped twrp its easy to flash an updated stock and an updated modem to get back on the latest update.
I got mine back in December and it was still on 10b. I didn't have to downgrade.
I am running 12b right now via Eclipse ROM. Fantastic!
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OK, so I would have to downgrade possibly. I just hate having to go backwards but, if that's what it takes to root and unlock. Would you happen to know which firmware is it that has to go back to root and such. We are both on Galaxy s3, she's wants new, I'm fine with my rooted and unlocked gs3, I actually thought about the n6, but who knows own. THANKS.
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Once you are rooted, you can retain root through the updates. So you can root, update, then install twrp if you like. From there you can backup your stock abd mess around with whatever custom roms you like.
read my post under general and flash tool thread last week w links
its easy, I was in your shoes 2 or 3 weeks ago. read my post under general and the flash tool thread = basically 10 minutes total = If I remember correctly just instal LG drivers onto Windows, open flash tool folder, click and drag 10b file to flash folder, run, Root w stump via hard method when it says phone not ssupported/ use hard crack method or whatever is says (forgot) or ioroot, supersu & twrp via play store apps is easy on LG g3. Save twrp restore state on sd, then use 12b file I linked, I love it! My wife will not get a Samsung next time, this thing is awesome due to less big brother and more friendly focus on hardware vs locking u out. Fyi the screen is not dim in the Sun as reviews always said.
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OK, so I would have to downgrade possibly. I just hate having to go backwards but, if that's what it takes to root and unlock. Would you happen to know which firmware is it that has to go back to root and such. We are both on Galaxy s3, she's wants new, I'm fine with my rooted and unlocked gs3, I actually thought about the n6, but who knows own. THANKS.
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I got mine a week ago and it came with 10b
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Is it possible for root on Samsung S5 T-mobile?
I am need also root
karneychen said:
Is it possible for root on Samsung S5 T-mobile?
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eli7897 said:
I am need also root
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Hurry up and wait
Any official word on if someone is actively working on trying to get root working?
.Root 5.1.1 T- mob S5???
[I would be pretty pleased if someone could help us out with thisQUOTE=karneychen;61618862]Is it possible for root on Samsung S5 T-mobile?[/QUOTE]
I'm going to give it another month and if no root method is out for 5.1.1, gonna have to revert to 5.0 since I can't get the debloater for OF6 to work. The forum here seems so inactive, makes me wonder if anyone is even working on a root method.
Is that even possible? How would you be able to downgrade without root? If there's a way, please let me know. 5.1.1 has completely trashed my phone. I wanna root so bad so I can flash a new rom. Make my phone usable again. I don't wanna update to get a new phone. Root would be a life saver or at least down grading to root. Please help.
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Is that even possible? How would you be able to downgrade without root? If there's a way, please let me know. 5.1.1 has completely trashed my phone. I wanna root so bad so I can flash a new rom. Make my phone usable again. I don't wanna update to get a new phone. Root would be a life saver or at least down grading to root. Please help.
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When I got my phone it was running 4.4.2 and installed TWRP... used that to do an advanced wipe of my phone to include Dalvik, System, Data, Internal Storage and Cache and installed a downloaded copy of 5.1.1 from Sammobile. Not sure why I couldn't do the same thing and then install 5.0.
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When I got my phone it was running 4.4.2 and installed TWRP... used that to do an advanced wipe of my phone to include Dalvik, System, Data, Internal Storage and Cache and installed a downloaded copy of 5.1.1 from Sammobile. Not sure why I couldn't do the same thing and then install 5.0.
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I never rooted my device before. Just got the OTA from T-Mobile. Is it still possible to use odin for flashing a recovery and downgrading?
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I never rooted my device before. Just got the OTA from T-Mobile. Is it still possible to use odin for flashing a recovery and downgrading?
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I don't want to say for sure it's 100% possible as I am no expert and haven't done my research. I know some OS's don't allow for downgrading and not sure if this is one of them. I just made an assumption that if advance wipe takes out the entire OS... then why wouldn't it be possible. I could be wrong though and haven't tried yet... wanted to wait a month and see if there is any progress on root for 5.1.1. If you find out anything let me know if you don't mind.. or if someone else with more experience in these matters could comment, that would be helpful.
You can downgrade via odin without tripping knox. I downgraded my wifes phone from 5.0 to 4.4.2 a while back.
esjames said:
You can downgrade via odin without tripping knox. I downgraded my wifes phone from 5.0 to 4.4.2 a while back.
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Yea but that was 5.0 not 5.1.1 which might be different. I read an article a little while ago that mentioned that you might soft brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade 5.1.1... something to do with the bootloader. Waiting on an expert to chime in...
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Yea but that was 5.0 not 5.1.1 which might be different. I read an article a little while ago that mentioned that you might soft brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade 5.1.1... something to do with the bootloader. Waiting on an expert to chime in...
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I was on 5.1.1, didnt like it and did odin back to 5.0 with no issues.
Same problem with OTA 5.1.1
Same problem with Samsung s5 T Mobile after the upgrade. SOOOOOO Lagggggy. T Mobile support told me to remove SD card, that seems to work, but I need the sd card... so I format it and put it back again and guess what.... it is lagy again. I also reset twice the phone and the same thing... So I think we are stuck, I can not root it, can not downgrade, can not use the phone!
Is there even a way to revert to 5.0
Ill say maybe a month since 5.1.1 was realesed. Testing some rooting mmethods myself so ill get back to yu all if I found a way
Should have waited for a dev to get hold of it, never do a ota. I have never took an ota yet, not planning to either.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61852944
have also twp recovery? for 5.1.1
I did brick my SM-G900T trying to go from 5.1.1 to 5.0. I read that Samsung added "protection" to 5.1.1 to prevent reverting & possibly rooting (not sure about that). I took the phone to a repair shop - it now has 5.0 and the OTA 5.1.1 is trying to download again.... I'm going to attempt to root 5.0. As I am new to rooting, really don't know what I'm doing & and am relying on internet posts, wish me luck!