I was going through the process of rolling back my kindle to 13.3.2.8 from 4.5.3 and then manually updating to 4.5.2 and rooting. In the process I had to enable WiFi to install ES File Explorer. It immediately started to download the update to 4.5.3! In the Device settings for update, it is showing there is an update ready to install. Is there a way to delete this 4.5.3 update? I don't know what to search for to find the .bin file or whatever is there ready to install. I have renamed the OTA file in order to stop the automatic updates. Everything seams to be working fine but I think I'd feel better knowing that file was not there ready to install!
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In need of help!
So I had followed the instructions for my KFHDX for rolling back back from 4.5.3 to 3.2.8 and manually updating to 4.5.2 and rooting and installing the gapps. All of this was successful with no problems at all! I was installing a couple of apps and was having some difficulty getting a program to link to dropbox (I don't know if this is relevant or not). I had downloaded this from the Play Store and had to install and re-install it to get things synced up. Eventually I got this all working... Then I believe what might have caused my problem is running an update on the Google Play Store. After that I am now stuck in the settings of the device and unable to get the home or back button to come up. I cannot get out of settings... I can connect to WiFi and change settings, see what applications are installed, etc., but I cannot get to any apps.
I had already changed the name of the OTA update file, but I cannot get to it to change it back to be able to run an update. In the process of this whole deal (which may be another part of the problem) is I tried to restore factory defaults...
So, can anyone help me either get this back to stock or any clue how I can get the Kindle to the home page in order to run File Explorer to rename the OTA file back in order to get it to possibly run the 4.5.2 or 3.2.8 rollback again? Anything really.. I'm in purgatory here!
Thanks
IMNOTL8 said:
So I had followed the instructions for my KFHDX for rolling back back from 4.5.3 to 3.2.8 and manually updating to 4.5.2 and rooting and installing the gapps. All of this was successful with no problems at all! I was installing a couple of apps and was having some difficulty getting a program to link to dropbox (I don't know if this is relevant or not). I had downloaded this from the Play Store and had to install and re-install it to get things synced up. Eventually I got this all working... Then I believe what might have caused my problem is running an update on the Google Play Store. After that I am now stuck in the settings of the device and unable to get the home or back button to come up. I cannot get out of settings... I can connect to WiFi and change settings, see what applications are installed, etc., but I cannot get to any apps.
I had already changed the name of the OTA update file, but I cannot get to it to change it back to be able to run an update. In the process of this whole deal (which may be another part of the problem) is I tried to restore factory defaults...
So, can anyone help me either get this back to stock or any clue how I can get the Kindle to the home page in order to run File Explorer to rename the OTA file back in order to get it to possibly run the 4.5.2 or 3.2.8 rollback again? Anything really.. I'm in purgatory here!
Thanks
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You can open apps with ADB.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4567904/how-to-start-an-application-using-android-adb-tools
so no-one provided an answer to the question. Where do you look with ES File Explorer (root) to delete a pending update.
Updates are stored in /cache.
is there more than one cache folder? Please be very specific as to where I need to point ES file explorer to delete this update files or files. I'm new to this, and don't want to screw my kindle up. If I would have known how to delete this months ago, I could have had a kindle with an unlocked bootloader, but I got screwed by amazon with their updates.
thanks for you help
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Updates are stored in /cache.
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rlkellyjr said:
is there more than one cache folder? Please be very specific as to where I need to point ES file explorer to delete this update files or files. I'm new to this, and don't want to screw my kindle up. If I would have known how to delete this months ago, I could have had a kindle with an unlocked bootloader, but I got screwed by amazon with their updates.
thanks for you help
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In ES (or any file manager) open the "System" or "/" folder. Find "cache" inside of this folder. In "cache" search for the appropriate update file. "cache" usually doesn't contain vital files, so you shouldn't be able to much damage (if any at all) by tinkering with it. You can always save copies of any files you move/delete in cache to be extra safe!
What if an update already occurred? Is there anyway to uninstall it? The most recent update to kindle fire changed the look and layout of the home screen completely and I really don't like it.
ourljfam said:
What if an update already occurred? Is there anyway to uninstall it? The most recent update to kindle fire changed the look and layout of the home screen completely and I really don't like it.
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Assuming you have a 4th gen 8.9" (Saturn) tablet that was recently updated from FireOS v4 to v5. The look of v5 is closer to 'native' Android but obviously not to everyone's liking. Unfortunately, there is no way back short of contacting Amazon to request a rollback. Not sure they are offering this option. Perhaps a better option is to become familiar with the new interface. FireOS v5 has a lot going for it and is generally a better option vs v4.
ourljfam said:
What if an update already occurred? Is there anyway to uninstall it? The most recent update to kindle fire changed the look and layout of the home screen completely and I really don't like it.
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201980430
if im not mistaken (and someone feel free to correct me if necessary) deleting the cache partition from stock recovery (Power+Left Vol) would also delete the downloaded update
jinxt said:
if im not mistaken (and someone feel free to correct me if necessary) deleting the cache partition from stock recovery (Power+Left Vol) would also delete the downloaded update
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Accurate - but stock recovery does not offer a cache clear option on 3rd gen HDX. Not sure about 4th gen (Saturn).
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I'm trying to upgrade my system. I originally rooted this HDX 8.9 with Towelroot and used HDXPosed. I've since disabled the HDXPosed module and copied over the 4.5.2 upgrade binary (update-kindle-14.4.5.2_user_452004220.bin) onto the internal storage as indicated here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201390370
However, even after rebooting, when I go into Devices > System Updates, it says that I'm current. If I do a "check now", it switches to "Last update failed." Doing a Retry gives the same result.
What do I need to un-block this update?
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I'm trying to upgrade my system. I originally rooted this HDX 8.9 with Towelroot and used HDXPosed. I've since disabled the HDXPosed module and copied over the 4.5.2 upgrade binary (update-kindle-14.4.5.2_user_452004220.bin) onto the internal storage as indicated here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201390370
However, even after rebooting, when I go into Devices > System Updates, it says that I'm current. If I do a "check now", it switches to "Last update failed." Doing a Retry gives the same result.
What do I need to un-block this update?
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Make sure you have re-enabled OTAs using the same method used to disable them. Not certain uninstalling HDXposed will do the trick. A stronger approach is to reinstall stock to wipe out any changes that may be blocking OTA.
A couple choices:
- Pure stock 3.2.5. Download and instructions here. If it doesn't take you can force with Flashify. Note you will loose root with this approach (but can get it back if needed). Upgrade to 4.5.2 should happen automatically assuming OTA kicks in.
- Upgrade to a slightly tweaked 3.2.6. Details here. You can either copy to system storage or force with Flashify. Once OTA is reenabled uprade to 4.5.2 should happy automatically.
If you have Safestrap be sure to uninstall before applying any upgrades that may remove root (even temporarily).
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Make sure you have re-enabled OTAs using the same method used to disable them. Not certain uninstalling HDXposed will do the trick. A stronger approach is to reinstall stock to wipe out any changes that may be blocking OTA.
A couple choices:
- Pure stock 3.2.5. Download and instructions here. If it doesn't take you can force with Flashify. Note you will loose root with this approach (but can get it back if needed). Upgrade to 4.5.2 should happen automatically assuming OTA kicks in.
- Upgrade to a slightly tweaked 3.2.6. Details here. You can either copy to system storage or force with Flashify. Once OTA is reenabled uprade to 4.5.2 should happy automatically.
If you have Safestrap be sure to uninstall before applying any upgrades that may remove root (even temporarily).
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So I already have the bin on the device. Could I use Flashify to just kick that in? I do worry about OTA as I don't want to get 4.5.3, I specifically want 4.5.2 so that I can reroot it afterwards. I've debated just doing a system reset, but I'm concerned about bricking possibility there... I know under some conditions resetting is not safe and I don't know if Towelroot/HDXposed/Gapps could trigger any of those conditions.
Never touched Safestrap so that isn't a concern, but thanks for the heads up.
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So I already have the bin on the device. Could I use Flashify to just kick that in? I do worry about OTA as I don't want to get 4.5.3, I specifically want 4.5.2 so that I can reroot it afterwards. I've debated just doing a system reset, but I'm concerned about bricking possibility there... I know under some conditions resetting is not safe and I don't know if Towelroot/HDXposed/Gapps could trigger any of those conditions.
Never touched Safestrap so that isn't a concern, but thanks for the heads up.
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You could try but if there is something funky with your device results are unpredictable. Understand your concern about potential for OTA to 4.5.3. You could flashify stock 3.2.5 and then 4.5.2 with wifi off. Use a tether as needed to move bin files around. Once on 4.5.2 you will need to reroot and block OTA. Assume you have secured instruction from other threads.
Regardless of the precautions bricking is always a possibility when flashing without a strong recovery solution. Fire OS seem pickier than most as evidenced by the strong cautions and numerous issues reported in the HDX forums. Amazon's recovery is essentially useless so when things go bad there are relatively few pull out options.
I would not do a system reset under any circumstances unless instructed but someone who can provide assurances that is the best path.
I just finally had some time to spend on this (thanks to another useless meeting at work). I upgraded to 4.5.2 and got it re-rooted with the cve<blah>.apk. I looked at this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/tut-disable-ota-4-5-2-install-gapps-t3043550 but it's really not clear how to go about this. In the past with 3.2.5 I just had to copy over some APKs and install them. Do I need Safestrap or Flashify or whatnot to install the gapps the way they're referring to, or is there an ADB equivalent of rsync that I can use?
stormerider said:
I just finally had some time to spend on this (thanks to another useless meeting at work). I upgraded to 4.5.2 and got it re-rooted with the cve<blah>.apk. I looked at this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/tut-disable-ota-4-5-2-install-gapps-t3043550 but it's really not clear how to go about this. In the past with 3.2.5 I just had to copy over some APKs and install them. Do I need Safestrap or Flashify or whatnot to install the gapps the way they're referring to, or is there an ADB equivalent of rsync that I can use?
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Do not install Safestrap (incompatible with 4.x) or use Flashify for this task (fastest path to a brick). Not certain where you are having difficulity with the OP in the thread you referenced. Instructions seem pretty clear. Might be trying to over think it ...
Be aware Google recently updated Play Services which is causing havok with many Kindle devices. You might want to hold off for a few days until the dust settles. If you opt to press forward you'll need to block some Google updates to keep Play Services and other Google components from auto-upgrading. Look through other threads for instructions. Seems like there are a couple different approaches floating around.
Check out this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/supersu-please-t3110954
I tried it and got temporary root on my Verizon Note Edge. I know it is temporary but at least it is root.
I do not have the developer version btw..
Did you use the Note 4 .img file?
sbrownla said:
Did you use the Note 4 .img file?
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I just followed the video that is posted in the OP and that gave me temporary root. I didn't use any .img files.
DV8 said:
I just followed the video that is posted in the OP and that gave me temporary root. I didn't use any .img files.
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Doesn't it say to use one of the downloadable boot img files from the linked site? It's a boot.img file.
Also what sorts of things have you tried so far with it?
sbrownla said:
Doesn't it say to use one of the downloadable boot img files from the linked site? It's a boot.img file.
Also what sorts of things have you tried so far with it?
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I have tried Root Explorer and it allows me to read and write to the SD card. I have Root Call blocker and that works as well, I have tried Xposed Framework and so far no go, it does a reboot and you will lose root. This is still a work in progress but it looks a lot more promising than a couple of months ago.
I did not use any img files due to mine being a note edge and I think those files are for those who have taken the lollipop upgrade on their Note 4's. Since we have not received the lollipop upgrade to our edge's yet you should be good to at least temporary root because it is only working on KitKat.
I was able to temp root with king root 4.0.1 apk ... and was able to remove bloatware files from: system/app and: system/priv-app but after reboot they are all back.
Update.... after temp rooting. . Install Titanium Backup and Freeze system apps will enable you to "turn off" apps that you otherwise wouldn't be able to disable through the stock app manager in settings menu.
See screenshot below. ...
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Screenshot of TouchWiz disabled because I use a different Home Launcher. And YES it keeps disabled through a reboot.
Was able to turn off The KNOX apps as well... seems to keep root longer without rebooting. HOWEVER root doesn't last forever.. meaning apps like Titanium Backup will lose root... and you will have to reboot and run King root again to get temp root to freeze more apps etc.
This is still a work in progress, hopefully the losing root problem will be fixed soon.
This is nice but after messing with it all week I gave up. I could easily get temp.root and get SU installed but you lose root after about an hour even if you touch nothing. You will also get random reboots a lot and then have to start over.
Mike02z said:
This is nice but after messing with it all week I gave up. I could easily get temp.root and get SU installed but you lose root after about an hour even if you touch nothing. You will also get random reboots a lot and then have to start over.
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If you install Titanium Backup and "freeze" all the Knox apps [see post 7, 8, & 9] you can keep root long enough to freeze all unwanted bloatware. That way you can at least "turn off" [disable] those apps from running in background etc. It's something more then we had.
Keep at it guys! I'll join when I get some time tomorrow and Monday
justjayhere said:
If you install Titanium Backup and "freeze" all the Knox apps [see post 7, 8, & 9] you can keep root long enough to freeze all unwanted bloatware. That way you can at least "turn off" [disable] those apps from running in background etc. It's something more then we had.
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Yup, this worked. All week I was trying to "remove" these applications via tibu but yesterday I just froze them. I still lost root but see everything I froze is still listed as "Turned off" in Application manager. That will do for now, Thanks!
when you temp root, use TiBu to "convert to user app" this should move all the files to the user apps directory instead of system apps then try to uninstall and see if they come back after reboot. Just a hunch but I can't try since I don't have the retail version.
NekoShinigami said:
when you temp root, use TiBu to "convert to user app" this should move all the files to the user apps directory instead of system apps then try to uninstall and see if they come back after reboot. Just a hunch but I can't try since I don't have the retail version.
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I do not see the option in Titanium Backup to ”convert to user app" .. Am I missing something?
justjayhere said:
I do not see the option in Titanium Backup to ”convert to user app" .. Am I missing something?
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You need to long press on the app. Towards the end of the setting that popup you should see the convert to user app setting.
Easiest way I found was to freeze all the apps you don't want, filter for frozen apps then go through the list converting them to user apps
Edit: this doesn't work. They will install themselves back after doing this.
I figured they would come back.. freezing app is as good as it gets for now.
long press or swipe right to get to the additional options. also thank you guys for confirming that for me. i wasnt for sure since I dont have the retail version to test out on.
also i think i remember reading in the note 4 forum that they were able to get it perma deleted by uninstalling all updates then uninstalling the app or something along those lines. I will go back and read it again to be sure of what i read, i may have misread.
I used this method to disable knox and bloatware on my Verizon Edge even without root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/disable-knox-ota-root-t2972263
As far as temp root is concerned using King root, I suppose while on a rooted state, one can make changes to the system such as:
1) Enabling 3rd party apps like ES File Explorer to write to SD card by modifying platform.xml as described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524277
2) Enabling hidden menu (if this is important to you) by modifying /efs/carrier/HiddenMenu file.
Even if you lose root, the changes you made to these files should stick, correct?
I followed this thread, had everything going well, but then I began having strange issues with my device. I tried to clear VireLauncherPro's cache, but then that screwed up my Google store. I tried to restore it via the tips at the end of the linked guide, but VireLauncherPro began to act erratic, and the Play Store began to cease working again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-hd/general/root-supersu-stable-appstore-custom-t3113311
Now I want to update back to 5.x and start the process all over again as a factory reset still leaves left over from Google Play and such, preventing me to do the hack from 4.x.
Thanks in advance.
Well, you probably want to specify your current FireOS version, whether you have root, and some other details that might help. There aren't many clairvoyants in here, so no generic answers
bibikalka said:
Well, you probably want to specify your current FireOS version, whether you have root, and some other details that might help. There aren't many clairvoyants in here, so no generic answers
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OS v 4.5.3
And I presume I am still rooted. I was before I did the system restore, but when I re-install Titanium Backup, it still acts like the thing is rooted.
My assumption was that factory resets restored everything and undid roots., but as I said, traces of Google Play store and such are still intact, and I can no longer update via Amazon.
It does not sound like you have TWRP installed. If so, you need to install SuperSu, and then with ES explorer take a look at this file :
/system/priv-app/DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk
See if you have it as is, or perhaps it is renamed? Rename it back, reboot, and you should get OTAs back.
I have that and it is named as it should be. I also still have Google Store after resetting to factory defaults, thus preventing me from going through the process again.
How can I just install a custom firmware into this so that the Amazon features don't interfere anymore?
I have a 4th Gen Kindle HDX which is rooted (Kingroot). I tried install GAPP (minimal) the other day. I overwrote some files (stupid I know) and rebooted the system. Now there is no menubar or launcher. I can't swipe in from the sides or tap to reveal a home/back overlay. I also can't update manual or OTA. When the system boots it boots into the settings window (thankfully), so I'm able to change settings (ADB enabled, wifi) and importantly use the special offers to launch the browser from which I've installed es explorer. I really want to get my Kindle back ideally to the latest Kindle OS WITH functional Google Store. Can anyone help? ideas suggestions.
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I have a 4th Gen Kindle HDX which is rooted (Kingroot). I tried install GAPP (minimal) the other day. I overwrote some files (stupid I know) and rebooted the system. Now there is no menubar or launcher. I can't swipe in from the sides or tap to reveal a home/back overlay. I also can't update manual or OTA. When the system boots it boots into the settings window (thankfully), so I'm able to change settings (ADB enabled, wifi) and importantly use the special offers to launch the browser from which I've installed es explorer. I really want to get my Kindle back ideally to the latest Kindle OS WITH functional Google Store. Can anyone help? ideas suggestions.
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Recovery approach is to adb install an alternative launcher (Apex, Nova) that will allow you to regain some control over your device - hopefully enough to restore the damaged files. The solution is not a panacea; if you touch the 'home' button FireOS will revert to the damaged launcher and you will have to repeat the cycle all over. A present there is no way to reload FireOS on 4th gen device so your options are limited. A factory reset will not restore launcher functionality. If you deleted files recovery will be almost impossible.
If the device remains under warranty contact Amazon for a one-time courtesy exchange.
I was able to install an alternate launcher and as you mentioned there is limited functionality. I wish there were a way to be able to force the device to upgrade to the latest FireOS or to reinstall the default framework as I'm pretty sure that's what got messed up during my attempted GAPP upgrade.
Describe step-by-step your steps. Which files exactly you replaced/changed except gapps.
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I was able to install an alternate launcher and as you mentioned there is limited functionality. I wish there were a way to be able to force the device to upgrade to the latest FireOS or to reinstall the default framework as I'm pretty sure that's what got messed up during my attempted GAPP upgrade
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Might consider contacting Amazon to see if they will manually push FireOS v5. Would be risky as an unstable device might not take the OTA well. You would likely 'own' the problem if out of warranty.
At some point a stock image > 4.5.5.1 should become available. You might be able to use that to force a more controlled upgrade. A Safestrap build for 4th gen devices seems unlikely at this point which is the other method used for reinstalling FireOS.
For future reference GApps and FireOS v4 is like Russian roulette. A few can keep the cylinder from rotating but most suffer some type of wound from the experience. Just a matter of time.
The only files changed were GAPP files.
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The only files changed were GAPP files.
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The only files changed were GAPP files.
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Describe step-by-step your steps. Which files exactly you replaced/changed except gapps.
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Thanks guys. An interesting thing happened when put a launch chooser on the device. Once I chose Nova launcher and then because I had nothing to lose chose Kindle launcher I suddenly had a functional Kindle. I rebooted the Kindle and everything is back to normal with the exception being I still can't update to the latest OS which I'd like to do. Thanks again everyone I appreciate the knowledge shared on these boards.
bnbliss said:
Thanks guys. An interesting thing happened when put a launch chooser on the device. Once I chose Nova launcher and then because I had nothing to lose chose Kindle launcher I suddenly had a functional Kindle. I rebooted the Kindle and everything is back to normal with the exception being I still can't update to the latest OS which I'd like to do. Thanks again everyone I appreciate the knowledge shared on these boards.
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Great! Nice when the HDX gods are in a good mood
Did you make any effort to block OTA? Browse to /system/priv-app/ and search for DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk. If not there or renamed (perhaps with a .bak extension) that is your problem.
Caution: do NOT touch DevicesoftwareOTA Contacts.apk. Alter/rename that file and you'll own a brick
90% there
Davey126 said:
Great! Nice when the HDX gods are in a good mood
Did you make any effort to block OTA? Browse to /system/priv-app/ and search for DeviceSoftwareOTA.apk. If not there or renamed (perhaps with a .bak extension) that is your problem.
Caution: do NOT touch DevicesoftwareOTA Contacts.apk. Alter/rename that file and you'll own a brick
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Thanks Davey for all your help. I had renamed the DeviceSoftwareOTA to prevent OTA updates. I renamed it back, restarted and the 4.5.5.1 download downloads but fails on installation. I've manually downloaded and put it on the Kindle. It's recognized but fails to install also. I then tried devices --> reset to Factory Defaults. The Kindle reboots into Fastboot mode. Strange. I'll dig around and see what I can find. I can't even tell you how happy I am that the HDX Gods have smiled on me, perhaps thanks to your intercession. :laugh:
-bnbliss
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... I had renamed the DeviceSoftwareOTA to prevent OTA updates. I renamed it back, restarted and the 4.5.5.1 download downloads but fails on installation. I've manually downloaded and put it on the Kindle. It's recognized but fails to install also. I then tried devices --> reset to Factory Defaults. The Kindle reboots into Fastboot mode. Strange. I'll dig around and see what I can find.
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Thoughts:
- there may be an inconsistency in the system partition that is hampering installation
- typically a factory reset from the native recovery menu (<power>+<vol-up> from cold start) allows balky images to progress
- however, you installed GAaps on FireOS v4 which may be a wildcard
- rebooting to fastboot is weird ...
- verifying you executed the 'Factory Reset' from the native Kindle Recovery menu, correct?
- also assume there was no attempt to install Safestrap or any other 'recovery' tool
Been looking around a lot here to find a solution and I see a few with the same problem but have never come across a solution yet.
I had my Kindle HDX 8.9 Apollo (3rd Gen) running fireOS 4.5.5.1. Installed Kingroot, rooted the device fine. I installed safestrap 4.0.1 B03 and it installed fine, was prompted for root access, allowed it and was able to install recovery. However when I either power off and or within safestrap select reboot to recovery i am stuck at the grey fire loading screen. I have to hold power button kill it, turn it back on go through the safestrap loading screen hit continue or just let it load. Then I get back to FireOS. during boot at the sfestrap screen i hit recovery goes to black screen and eventually have to hold power to kill it and reload again.
I read another post with some similar issues. The issue they had was the system folder was out of room and removing some files cleared up the issue. So i uninstalled safestrap, unrooted and uninstalled king root. Loaded in to the kindle recovery mode and reset to default.
I then proceeded to just use kingroot (root successful) loaded safestrap and rebooted ... same exact issue on freshly restored fire HDX.
I have to be missing something, I have been reading all day about different issues and trying to get past this to install CM11 on the device. Just cant get past this issue to backup and continue the process.
More info:
Safestrap boot screen shows safestrap :disabled
I can provide ADB info if needed.
Any suggestions?
Aescher75 said:
Been looking around a lot here to find a solution and I see a few with the same problem but have never come across a solution yet.
I had my Kindle HDX 8.9 Apollo (3rd Gen) running fireOS 4.5.5.1. Installed Kingroot, rooted the device fine. I installed safestrap 4.0.1 B03 and it installed fine, was prompted for root access, allowed it and was able to install recovery. However when I either power off and or within safestrap select reboot to recovery i am stuck at the grey fire loading screen. I have to hold power button kill it, turn it back on go through the safestrap loading screen hit continue or just let it load. Then I get back to FireOS. during boot at the sfestrap screen i hit recovery goes to black screen and eventually have to hold power to kill it and reload again.
I read another post with some similar issues. The issue they had was the system folder was out of room and removing some files cleared up the issue. So i uninstalled safestrap, unrooted and uninstalled king root. Loaded in to the kindle recovery mode and reset to default.
I then proceeded to just use kingroot (root successful) loaded safestrap and rebooted ... same exact issue on freshly restored fire HDX.
I have to be missing something, I have been reading all day about different issues and trying to get past this to install CM11 on the device. Just cant get past this issue to backup and continue the process.
More info:
Safestrap boot screen shows safestrap :disabled
I can provide ADB info if needed.
Any suggestions?
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A stock factory reset (misnomer) does not touch the system partition; it only flushes the data partition. While I am not sure what is causing the problem with Safestrap recovery insufficient space in the system partition would certainly do it. Once rooted you can use ES File Explorer or similar tool to review the contents and identify potential candidates for removal. IMPORTANT: Don't delete anything without verifying the file is safe to remove. Also don't mess with permissions or try to edit build.prop. As you are probably aware even the slightest abnormally in the system partition can cause FireOS not to boot which is usually fatal on this device.
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A stock factory reset (misnomer) does not touch the system partition; it only flushes the data partition. While I am not sure what is causing the problem with Safestrap recovery insufficient space in the system partition would certainly do it. Once rooted you can use ES File Explorer or similar tool to review the contents and identify potential candidates for removal. IMPORTANT: Don't delete anything without verifying the file is safe to remove. Also don't mess with permissions or try to edit build.prop. As you are probably aware even the slightest abnormally in the system partition can cause FireOS not to boot which is usually fatal on this device.
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Ok thanks Davey I will take a look at the system partition and clean anything up I can. Maybe that is the problem I am still fighting with just a space issue. I will give it a try and report back.
Davey126 said:
A stock factory reset (misnomer) does not touch the system partition; it only flushes the data partition. While I am not sure what is causing the problem with Safestrap recovery insufficient space in the system partition would certainly do it. Once rooted you can use ES File Explorer or similar tool to review the contents and identify potential candidates for removal. IMPORTANT: Don't delete anything without verifying the file is safe to remove. Also don't mess with permissions or try to edit build.prop. As you are probably aware even the slightest abnormally in the system partition can cause FireOS not to boot which is usually fatal on this device.
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Im looking through system using es file explorer any suggestions on what to dump? Is the system "partition" just items under the system folder?
Just trying to be careful on what i get rid of. Is there a list of items published in a stock Fire HDX by chance? Would be nice to have something to look at and compare.
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Ok thanks Davey I will take a look at the system partition and clean anything up I can. Maybe that is the problem I am still fighting with just a space issue. I will give it a try and report back.
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Aescher75 said:
Im looking through system using es file explorer any suggestions on what to dump? Is the system "partition" just items under the system folder?
Just trying to be careful on what i get rid of. Is there a list of items published in a stock Fire HDX by chance? Would be nice to have something to look at and compare.
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No standard list of folders/files that I am aware of.
Let's verify whether space is really an issue. Recall I'm not sure what is causing the problem w/Safestrap although it has been reported before.
Grab the following app that will help you visualize space in the system partition (apkmirror is a well regarded repository for Android apps):
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/ivan-volosyuk/diskusage/
Check free space in under /system mount point. Tap and pinch-zoom as needed. If > 100MB you should be fine. Don't delete anything just yet. Just looking ...
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No standard list of folders/files that I am aware of.
Let's verify whether space is really an issue. Recall I'm not sure what is causing the problem w/Safestrap although it has been reported before.
Grab the following app that will help you visualize space in the system partition (apkmirror is a well regarded repository for Android apps):
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/ivan-volosyuk/diskusage/
Check free space in under /system mount point. Tap and pinch-zoom as needed. If > 100MB you should be fine. Don't delete anything just yet. Just looking ...
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Man this app is awesome! I have included some screenshots of the /system mount point ... there is some issues here for sure. All them teeth and no toothbrush .. I have attached a few screenshots to show what the system mount point looks like. I drilled into a few of the more expensive folders to show more detail. Let me know if you can see them ok, or need to drill in deeper to them.
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Man this app is awesome! I have included some screenshots of the /system mount point ... there is some issues here for sure. All them teeth and no toothbrush .. I have attached a few screenshots to show what the system mount point looks like. I drilled into a few of the more expensive folders to show more detail. Let me know if you can see them ok, or need to drill in deeper to them.
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Good stuff; was able to view the images fine. You don't need a ton of free space for Safestrap Recovery. Suggest deleting a couple benign Amazon apks in the priv-app folder such as weather and calculator. Don't go crazy or clobber apks that don't have clear function. Again, you just need enough space for Safestrap. The rest of the clutter in /system will get flushed with the installation of a custom rom.
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Good stuff; was able to view the images fine. You don't need a ton of free space for Safestrap Recovery. Suggest deleting a couple benign Amazon apks in the priv-app folder such as weather and calculator. Don't go crazy or clobber apks that don't have clear function. Again, you just need enough space for Safestrap. The rest of the clutter in /system will get flushed with the installation of a custom rom.
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OK few things. I was able to free up 110 MB of /system space these are the apk's i used titanium to backup and then uninstalled:
Weather
Audible
Contacts
Calculator
Maps
Kindle Tutorial
Calendar
Contacts
Goodreads
Nuance Dictation
And the Kindle Office App
I rebooted and the fire came up (shew)
I now have 110 MB free. So I rebooted from safestrap into recovery and same got the grey fire logo and seemed to lock up. So held power rebooted got the safestrap screen (Still showed disabled) Back in fireOS.
I unstalled recovery in safestrap
uninstalled Safestrap
went in to ADB and reinstalled safestrap
Installed recovery inside safestrap
rebooted to recovery
got the grey fire again and presto there is the recovery screen.
So I think I am ready to make a backup and find that awesome walk - through you did and follow it along.
Pretty stoked!! Thanks for the hand with this, I am sure I am just beginning the fun!!
Any suggestions on the ROM?
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OK few things. I was able to free up 110 MB of /system space these are the apk's i used titanium to backup and then uninstalled:
Weather
Audible
Contacts
Calculator
Maps
Kindle Tutorial
Calendar
Contacts
Goodreads
Nuance Dictation
And the Kindle Office App
I rebooted and the fire came up (shew)
I now have 110 MB free. So I rebooted from safestrap into recovery and same got the grey fire logo and seemed to lock up. So held power rebooted got the safestrap screen (Still showed disabled) Back in fireOS.
I unstalled recovery in safestrap
uninstalled Safestrap
went in to ADB and reinstalled safestrap
Installed recovery inside safestrap
rebooted to recovery
got the grey fire again and presto there is the recovery screen.
So I think I am ready to make a backup and find that awesome walk - through you did and follow it along.
Pretty stoked!! Thanks for the hand with this, I am sure I am just beginning the fun!!
Any suggestions on the ROM?
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As you know your choices are limited to HDX Nexus and CM-11. I use both on different devices. Both adaptations are stable KitKat builds with proven track records. I have a slight preference for Nexus on this device as makes best use of hardware resources (IMHO) and has the greatest compatibility with Xposed modules like GravityBox which significantly extends the already excellent UI. Toss in Nova, Google Play Services and Greenify and you have a nice device that rivals Lollipop/Marshmallow equivalents.
Be sure to review the HDX Nexus OP and Safestrap v4 best practices before proceeding. Highlights:
- no need to flash GAaps or SuperSU with this rom; both are built-in
- be sure to backup your current FireOS build from within Safestrap and store the archive on another device
- be sure to perform a factory reset (wipe) from WITHIN Safestrap prior to flashing a *new* rom
- you cannot communicate with the outside world from with Safestrap; all files must be copied to device in advance
- Safestrap is a capable but sensitive environment for hosting custom roms; it is NOT a full recovery, hence ...
- IMPORTANT: never perform a factory reset from the stock recovery menu with Safestrap v4 installed (instant brick)
- IMPORTANT: always keep a copy of the Nexus installation zip on your device for emergency recovery
- IMPORTANT: do not create/use secondary slots; only flash roms to the STOCK slot (overwrites FireOS)
Any questions bounce back. Several respected contributors monitor these forums and more than happy to assist as needed (and keep you out of deep doo-doo).