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Hello,
I wish to use Android without Google. I mean, android without any google apps (gapps pack) installed just after flashing AOSP rom. I already identify and tested all alternatives apps of Google apps I used. I use already the alternative android market F-Droid. However, before use Android without Google, I want to know feedback of users that already do it. In particular about my question:
What are the constraints, bugs and disadvantages while using Android without Google installed?
Thanks
F droid is a good alternative but of course you have less apps
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jonathanxx1 said:
F droid is a good alternative but of course you have less apps
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yes, you have less apps
There are fewer apps, and they work great but you may need to look for other services to replace Google's unless you want to run the web apps (see Gapps Browser). An excellent choice is owncloud: see http://sufficientlysecure.org/index.php/2013/11/26/an-android-without-google/ for a short guide to replacing contact, calendar, todo and password sync.
I think the major downside is losing the advanced location functionality and push notifications available to apps that use Google Play Services. On the other hand your battery may thank you for not using it. Xmpp based messaging apps are a little battery hungry but not too bad. I've been using CM without Gapps for ages, and it works fine, but I'm hoping OmniROm will be more friendly.
jonathan and thmls : off initial topic
dab : nice feedback, great link
Android without Google (no gapps)
No Gapps project on XDA : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
Hi guys, has anyone seen a list of all Google apps and services that can be disabled or deleted? I love the skinned ROM on my phone and all the features, I've started disabling and uninstalling as much Google as I can.
Hey it's ridiculous to buy a Google android device and not use the apps that are considered the advantage of android on other OSes. But a good alternative to Google play is amazon appstore
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I disagree. When Google branded Android phones had a smaller market share, I would say there was more choice, you could avoid Google. Now that they dominate smartphone sales and change their policies it's different. It's becoming a monopoly and we are losing that choice.
Yeah I did try the Amazon app store, re-downloading it now to give it another go...
philippe734 said:
Hello,
I wish to use Android without Google. I mean, android without any google apps (gapps pack) installed just after flashing AOSP rom. I already identify and tested all alternatives apps of Google apps I used. I use already the alternative android market F-Droid. However, before use Android without Google, I want to know feedback of users that already do it. In particular about my question:
What are the constraints, bugs and disadvantages while using Android without Google installed?
Thanks
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a lot of paid apps with lvl license control wont work without gapps
Problems
From the author of the No Google apps project:
MaR-V-iN said:
Android without Google apps have several problems:
Some apps do not install because of missing Google Maps API
Some apps fc at startup bacause of missing Maps API or market license check issues
Some apps hardcoded links to several Google Apps and therefor fc or react unexpectedly on certain cases.
No access to Play Store (i tried nearly every alternative market, but nothing is as good for free apps as play store) Meanwhile, F-Droid provides nearly everything you need
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Why not just use 1Mobile Market. Completely legal play store alternative. Even has all the Google apps like maps and Google services if you so desire. (defeats the purpose I know). I went this route as I want total control of my devices. Google has got out of hand with their apps and Play Services Framework and whatever else they cram in. The apps on 1Mobile Market are more up to date than the Amazon App store also which sometimes can be multiple versions behind. So just flash AOSP, grab the 1Mobile Market APK (Google it) and go to town.
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Please post any apps you have all discovered aside from the play store.. private developed on dev sites or elsewhere. Im sure there are some great apps out there we are all missing
DLD23 said:
Please post any apps you have all discovered aside from the play store.. private developed on dev sites or elsewhere. Im sure there are some great apps out there we are all missing
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F-droid appstore is full of apps, I liked the ascii cam app from the F-droid store~
Also xposed framework, if you don't know already~
Aronuser said:
F-droid appstore is full of apps, I liked the ascii cam app from the F-droid store~
Also xposed framework, if you don't know already~
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I really want to say 100% no and never install gapps again.
I have an GT-I9195. I love F-droid (store).
One thing i'm looking for tho is, a 100% working rom opensource only (AOSP etc), with Openpdroid/pdroid.
Any tips are very, very welcome
So you can really get by without play store? If I have titanium backup can I keep some apps from play store and detach?
I installed Greenify from the Google Play store.
From within the app, i tried to purchase the IAP donation package from Amazon.
I get the error message:
"Please install Amazon Appstore first."
Then, it opens the Amazon Appstore app, which is already installed and signed in on my device.
Follow-up:
I uninstalled Greenify from Google Play and installed it from Amazon. Then I purchased the donation IAP from Amazon. Then I updated Greenify with Google Play. This caused Greenify to lose donation status. I thought this would work because of this post: https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13ezz2pule4h3nm423pfn0h2wrvib4y204
Unfortunately, nothing I try will make the Google Play Greenify work with the Amazon IAP I purchased.
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Follow-up:
I uninstalled Greenify from Google Play and installed it from Amazon. Then I purchased the donation IAP from Amazon. Then I updated Greenify with Google Play. This caused Greenify to lose donation status. I thought this would work because of this post: https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13ezz2pule4h3nm423pfn0h2wrvib4y204
Unfortunately, nothing I try will make the Google Play Greenify work with the Amazon IAP I purchased.
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I am also experiencing the exact same issue (VZW Note 4).
I have had some issues in the past and I could solve them by following these steps:
From the Settings / Applications manager
- clean Greenify data
- clean Amazon Appstore data
- uninstall Greenify
- re-authenticate in Amazzon Appstore
- download Greenefy from Amazon Appstore
- open Greenefy and use the "About" menu
If you see "Thanks for donation", you can try to update Greenify from the Google Play store and hopefully your donation will be carried forward.
If you do not see the "Thanks message" but something like "Purchase donation pkg." then you should not update because the donation is not recognized and sure will not be in the updated version as well...
In this second case you can try to repeat clean data for both Amazon and Greenify a couple of times.
Make sure you have internet connection while you open the "About* menu in Greenify.
Hope this can help.
Aliante said:
I have had some issues in the past and I could solve them by following these steps...
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I swear I tried those steps twice over before posting. But in the interest of being through, I tried them again. This time it worked, so either something changed, or i made a fool of myself twice in a row.
Either way, thank you! <3
(CF auto rooted Nexus 5)
Amazon donation package still not fixed. The workaround package posted on google plus doesn't work anymore. When installed the Greenify 2.4.3 Amazon package and run it, it says "Thank you for donation" when upgrade using Google Play store, it says you have to Donate!
Right now I am forced to use a cracked version of 2.5.2, and works fine. I feel bad, but there is nothing can be done since this issue has been for over 4 months and still not fixed!
Hi!
I want to purchase the Greenify license. I have no GAPPS and I don't want to install them. For example, I purchased the licenses XPrivacy and IM+ from their authors through PayPal. Can i purchase the license for Greenify through PayPal, Visa or WebMoney(WMZ)?
a same question here, greenify is the most important app for me, without this, my HTC One E8 lasts less then 1 day with normal usage.
I am a Chinese user, I don't want GAPPS, but I want to buy greenify, what shall I do?
kokos76 said:
Hi!
I want to purchase the Greenify license. I have no GAPPS and I don't want to install them. For example, I purchased the licenses XPrivacy and IM+ from their authors through PayPal. Can i purchase the license for Greenify through PayPal, Visa or WebMoney(WMZ)?
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You must have some Android won't function without some, like playstore manager and others. I've the bare minimum myself but as they have moved parts of the OS into the app store it means that you need some Gapps to function. They do this so they can keep the code secret if it's *an app *. So much for being an open OS.
I hope that this happens, I'm about to remove Gapps from my phone and I've purchased the donation package.
It hurts to say this, but I probably have to pirate new Greenify releases after after removing propriety Google software from my phone.
greenify add on after factory reset
I had to factory reset due to my own ineptitude with the homescreen mixup I created (
When getting the greenify app back I had to pay AGAIN for the add-ons I previously bought.
Obviously there is no limits of my newcomer ineptitude.
fenneberg said:
I had to factory reset due to my own ineptitude with the homescreen mixup I created (
When getting the greenify app back I had to pay AGAIN for the add-ons I previously bought.
Obviously there is no limits of my newcomer ineptitude.
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If you had logged in to Play Store with the same account through which you purchased earlier, it would have recognised your earlier purchase and you need not have paid again.
jeffreylin_ said:
If you guys could install the Amazon Appstore, that has Greenify with the donation package as an in app purchase.
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Amazon Appstore's apps are updated very rarely, I doubt that Greenify has the latest version either. I've removed the application from my phone entirely.
Musicbee said:
Amazon Appstore's apps are updated very rarely, I doubt that Greenify has the latest version either. I've removed the application from my phone entirely.
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In theory atleast, you can update the Amazon downloaded/purchased Greenify on Play Store. Some people have reported issues with this process and the Dev has provided a solution though that doesn't seem to work for all.
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The only problem is that he doesn't want to have anything to do with the Play Store.
Guess he'll have to stay a version or two behind.
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If you are talking about the OP, then he wants to donate and get the donate version. So without Play Store, he can not do it, unless by subterfuge.
I don't see greenify app in amazon appstore. I don't think it is there anymore... what was the matter?
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It was removed because the dev had problems with IAPs on Amazon Appstore. If you have downloaded it before, you can still do so.
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Oh I haven't purchased it yet. Since I have some amazon appstore coins, I wanted to pay there rather than paying again in google play... Appreciate your reply!
I have purchased the donation package. As expected, after removing Gapps from my phone the paid features don't work anymore. I had to obtain a working version from unofficial sources.
I didn't see a mention anywhere on the store page that Greenify requires proprietary Google services to run, I should be entitled for a refund.
DRM only hurts the paying customers, pirates use the superior, non-Google dependant Greenify.
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I have purchased the donation package. As expected, after removing Gapps from my phone the paid features don't work anymore. I had to obtain a working version from unofficial sources.
I didn't see a mention anywhere on the store page that Greenify requires proprietary Google services to run, I should be entitled for a refund.
DRM only hurts the paying customers, pirates use the superior, non-Google dependant Greenify.
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You have some nerve in posting this. Not only you knew that Greenify donate features will not work if Gapps are removed, you went ahead and obtained "a working version from unofficial sources".
So if Greenify is now working for you, why should the donation be returned?
And you complain that Play Store nowhere states that donation features won't work without Gapps as if you didn't know.
Hypocrisy!
Still, the question remains: How to use the "full version" without GApps installed? I still have a Google account and thus could "pay" via it. But it makes no sense for me if I cannot use it.
That "Google Glue" applied by "vending.CHECK_LICENSE" is a real show-stopper. I'm willing to pay/donate, and I've did so with several other apps that came without this glue (and thus working perfect on my "degooglified" devices). I wish I could say the same about Greenify. The free version is nice – but not half as useful as the full version
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Still, the question remains: How to use the "full version" without GApps installed? I still have a Google account and thus could "pay" via it. But it makes no sense for me if I cannot use it.
That "Google Glue" applied by "vending.CHECK_LICENSE" is a real show-stopper. I'm willing to pay/donate, and I've did so with several other apps that came without this glue (and thus working perfect on my "degooglified" devices). I wish I could say the same about Greenify. The free version is nice – but not half as useful as the full version
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Agreed. But I think that it won't work without Google Play Store unless the Dev finds a way around it. And I also think that the 'Google Glue' was applied by Google and not by the Dev.
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Agreed. But I think that it won't work without Google Play Store unless the Dev finds a way around it. And I also think that the 'Google Glue' was applied by Google and not by the Dev.
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There are plenty of ways around it (one is to simply remove the license check altogether, which is what "hackers" do or which could possibly be done using Lucky Patcher – but I don't want to use a hacked version nor the patcher, the latter is too tempting I've bought several "paid apps" that come completely without). And as it wasn't Google who added that piece of code to the app, I have to disagree: there are indeed things not to blame on Google. If a dev decides to use Google licence check (which is performed by the Google Play Store app, hence 'vending.CHECK_LICENSE') (s)he must be aware that the app providing that is required on the device it should run on – and the own app cannot run if not.
Here check this out this may probably help you.
""microG GmsCore is a FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) framework to allow applications designed for Google Play Services to run on systems, "".....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-microg-gmscore-floss-play-services-t3217616
Has anyone else lost Leo's Fortune app from Google Play My Apps & Games?
It is currently not there for me either
I have had this happen with paid apps before. Usually its because the app dev isn't jumping through googles hoops, so google takes the app down til they comply
With luck it will return to the play store.
One thing that can be done is:
Before an app is taken down have it either installed or have a backup of it, I use Titanium Backup for this. Obviously not much help to you now
Mrpookie said:
It is currently not there for me either
I have had this happen with paid apps before. Usually its because the app dev isn't jumping through googles hoops, so google takes the app down til they comply
With luck it will return to the play store.
One thing that can be done is:
Before an app is taken down have it either installed or have a backup of it, I use Titanium Backup for this. Obviously not much help to you now
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I do have Titanium Backup of it but not the whole app data was backed up only 110MB or so, when the app is actually about 300MB in size from what I remember of the app' listing in the Play Store.
I only asked because there are much more malicious apps that are still on the Google Play Store and Google does not remove them but removes a game not just for everybody but for those who purchased it as well.
I have had apps on Apple App store that are not removed from My Apps even through they may be removed the Apple App Store so new user may not install the app.
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