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https://market.android.com/details?id=com.pdanet.tablet
For those of us with honeycomb tablets, you may want to have data everywhere you go on it. But you don't want to hack your phone, cause you just got it on a two year contract. And the carrier price is WAY to expensive, and not unlimited. This is the problem my uncle had when we gave him an Android tablet. With his Evo 4G, he should have data everywhere he goes, and that is where this app comes in.
Advantages.
Its Bluetooth, so no rooting required, if both devices have Bluetooth that is *cough* kindle fire doesn't *cough*
Since its Bluetooth, it doesn't show up to every wifi device within 30 feet of you, and is secured to only work with properly setup devices
Unlike PdaNet for computer tethering, this one is completely free (so is hotspot, but that needs root)
Disadvantages
Bluetooth isn't the fastest method for tethering, but since wifi hotspot is slower than the data you get using the phone, it works out to be about the same. Still a factor though
You need to have data on both devices to get the app in the first place.
It is required of you to set a proxy in order to use this (the proxy is coming from your phone, your data isn't being watched by this app, just Sprint and Carrier IQ )
You need to clear this proxy in order to use normal wifi every time, which can be tedious
As it stands, this is a great method for unlimited data for your tablet without having to void your phone's warrenty. What do you guys think, would this be enough for you to not need to root every phone you get? Can't hurt to find out can it?
I can confirm this works with the Evo Shift, and Evo 4G as servers, and with the Acer Iconia Tab a100 as the client.
Found some old posts, back in May, where people were discussing whether PDANet could truly hide tethering from AT&T, or other providers. I was tethering with my rooted SGS2 and received the text, email, and snail mail notices from AT&T that I would lose my unlimited data and be forced to by a tethering plan if I continued to tether. I was utilizing the stock rom with the tethering manager frozen.
Has anybody utilizing the 3.02 version of PDANet been contacted by AT&T to c&d? If so, could the c&d be attributed to tethering done before installing PDANet?
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I'd like to know as well.
I don't think pdanet does anything special...i use approx 3-5gigs a month all mostly teathering. I have never received any notices of any kind.
I think as long there isn't any high spikes in data usage, you'll be safe.
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This is just an unproven theory by myself, but don't use internet explorer on the device you are tethering to.
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Personally, I use Firefox with User Agent usually set to Iphone, but obviously if there was a galaxy s 2 user agent I would use it. I din't tether to much- maybe 500 meg a month, but I've never been caught.
I got hit with the top %5 text the other morning...managed to use just under 12gigz this billing cycle..MOSTLY from wifi tether Phone 2 Phone and i maybe used an hr tethering to a laptop..I work for the bastards..doesn't matter what you use...all ill say is the network is alot smarter than people think..trust me..
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Supposedly Barnacle "hides" it and it's a free app. Google it.
I wonder if using an SSH connection would encrypt the connection enough to hide anything they sniff out to detect tethering.
If your rooted and have root explore just delete tehtering manager. Apk in system/app and if your on a custom rom it is more than likely already removed for you. Now if I could just get decent data speeds I would use it
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That's the way I was tethering when I was told by AT&T to c&d. That's why I'm trying to find a way to tether and not get caught.
Hmmm odd you must have had huge data spikes because without that app they can't tell besides seeing you use like a gig a day. Interesting any thoughts guys?
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If somebody knows for sure if PDANet stealth mode works - I'd really, REALLY like to know too! Had AT&T's "Unlimited" plan for a few years now. Been teathering, but for completely trivial amounts of data - during most months my usage didn't go over a gig or two. This month I went over 4 gig for the first time ever, and suddenly all hell broke loose. I get repeated "5%" messages over text and email, warning they will throttle down my 3G speeds (they are already a complete joke here in NY-NJ). So I stopped using all data for about a week now, but the messages never stopped, and now I am getting the tether notices.
I got the letter last May when I had an iPhone that was jailbroken. Now I got the rooted Android and I just don't want to lose unlimited data. I tried once with PDA bored at an airport and wanting to do basic surfing on my laptop. I used it again the other night on my laptop for simple surfing as my main internet went down and so far as I know (/knock on wood/) I'm okay.
Most say TTL is how they find out. My problem is they have intricate logs of every phone call and text you ever sent but can't tell me a MAC addy, time, etc. of when I tethered. Fact is known that only those with unlimited data plans were the ones attacked as it seems they are slowly trying to phase these out.
I just make sure to not have Windows Updates enabled when surfing on my laptop with tethering. It's obvious any mobile phone shouldn't be accessing this site.
I dont know how they can tell but it seems they are always able to. I used my android to tether with an iphone to download Wifi only updates and after about 3 months i got the notice saying I need to not tether or they will remove unlimited.
Apparently they say that the notices aren't always Instant (I was figuring i would get it right after i used tethering). I know for a fact i had not tethered after the last time so it was roughly 3 months behind.
I do not believe sirs (referring to OP)
I have been using my Xperia x10a to tether for the past year. Recently ATT&T has sent me a letter in the mail saying that if I do not discontinue tethering that they will automatically add me to a $45 plan instead of the $30 that I pay now for the internet usage. AT&T stated that they are giving their customers until December 31st to stop tethering if they do not have the plan after I called them. My question is, did AT&T recently figure out a way to track tethering for I have also done it on my Iphone 3g since 3 years ago?
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I think tracking tethering on android is not posible...I mean..they have to see exactly what programs are you using....and how do you use them...thats invading ur personal space...i think the way they are tracing tethering...is on looking how much bandwidth you use....and if they have like a apk that installed and sents them info oin how you use your tethering you can just block it with a firewall....just an opinion.....
As far as I know, they can't track android tethering. The iphone uses an alternate apn for tethering, so they're easily tracked. The android uses the phone's normal apn. They would have to scan your data packets to determine where your data is going/coming from. Which I doubt they will because that would become expensive. I would assume thats an invasion of privacy as well.
I use my tethering all the time and I've only had one message from att, which was about two months ago, regarding tethering. I had got a warning saying my data was at 90% then later I got one saying i should change to a tethering plan if i want to tether. It never said anything about them changing my plan automatically if I used it. So I'm thinking they just noticed it was used up quickly. I had tethered to my console to watch netflix on the TV, which took about 1.4gb, and it played perfectly.
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I would like to be able to tether my HTC View to my iPhone 4 via bluetooth to share the internet connection. It works successfully via MiWi with the wireless hotspot. I would like to use the bluetooth instead though since the wifi hotspot kills my battery and makes my phone physically hot to the touch after a few hours of it. Is this possible?
The 2 devices do pair through mywi using bluetooth. But when i click to connect and use for internet access the View just sits there and says connecting.
iPhone is running 5.0.1 and is jailbroken
HTC View is running 3.2.1 and is rooted and s-off
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I would like to be able to tether my HTC View to my iPhone 4 via bluetooth to share the internet connection. It works successfully via MiWi with the wireless hotspot. I would like to use the bluetooth instead though since the wifi hotspot kills my battery and makes my phone physically hot to the touch after a few hours of it. Is this possible?
The 2 devices do pair through mywi using bluetooth. But when i click to connect and use for internet access the View just sits there and says connecting.
iPhone is running 5.0.1 and is jailbroken
HTC View is running 3.2.1 and is rooted and s-off
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Sorry, I don't have a solution for you. I was just more curious if your wireless carrier has found out about you tethering and tried to force you into a tethering plan? I really want to jailbreak my iPhone for tethering but it sounds like there isn't a fullproof way of not letting carriers find out you are doing this.
I would like to do the same. I've read on other forums that some have success with honeycomb connecting to 4.0 miwi
I've been using tethering for about 6 months now. In the beginning it was only when wifi wasn't available for my laptop, or my wife's iPhone on trips (she has 200mb data)
They have not complained yet but it was very low data usage before. I'm sure my data will increase now so I will have to see. I work in IT, everywhere I go has wifi. I've used 702mb of data this month (1/2 through cycle). I'm normally around around 300 - 400mb of data a month. I'm also grandfathered into unlimited plan, so they get $30 a month from me for data. I doubt they are complaining much since i'm such a light user. This bill will be my first full month with the view, so we will see if I ever get any complaints.
jonesychris said:
I've been using tethering for about 6 months now. In the beginning it was only when wifi wasn't available for my laptop, or my wife's iPhone on trips (she has 200mb data)
They have not complained yet but it was very low data usage before. I'm sure my data will increase now so I will have to see. I work in IT, everywhere I go has wifi. I've used 702mb of data this month (1/2 through cycle). I'm normally around around 300 - 400mb of data a month. I'm also grandfathered into unlimited plan, so they get $30 a month from me for data. I doubt they are complaining much since i'm such a light user. This bill will be my first full month with the view, so we will see if I ever get any complaints.
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Ah ok, well keep us updated. I too am grandfathered in on unlimited data on my iPhone 4. And I also am a fairly light user (< 1GB/month), but everyone makes it sound like the carriers are jumping on illegal tethering pretty hard. Regardless of how much data is actually used, they know from the ports that tethering is happening. I almost wouldn't mind paying for a tethering account, but the worst part about doing it is that you lose unlimited regular data.
Reading your posts, I can't understand why tethering is "illegal" or forbidden. I you pay for a data plan, why can't one use it on any device?
Because they want to charge for it. Not sure
No one has successfully tethered with bluetooth?
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I found this article with some searching.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374213&highlight=bluetooth+tether
I wonder if this would work with the View. Same WPA file work?
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Reading your posts, I can't understand why tethering is "illegal" or forbidden. I you pay for a data plan, why can't one use it on any device?
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Its not "illegal", in that I don't think you can get thrown in jail or sued for it.
But you agree to the carrier's Terms & Conditions when you sign up to use their network, whether you like it or not (or bothered to read them). Violation of the Terms means that the carrier can terminate your service, add charges to your account, or other repercussions, depending on what the Terms state.
Not sure what carrier's policies are in Israel. But in the US, most of the big carriers have specific statements in their Terms of Use, that prohibit tethering other devices to your phone without a tethering specific plan. If you are caught violating this policy, they reserve the right to add that plan to your account, or even drop your account if they want.
And yes, its of course so they can charge you extra. I completely agree that data should be data. And if you pay for a certain amount of data, or on an unlimited plan, then ideologically it should not make a difference if you are tethered or not. But there are many times in life where the most logical or fair concept is not what happens in reality. Especially in the for-profit business world.
No one has any ideas? Surely i'm not the first person who has tried to do this.
I just posted a possible solution related to this except I did it on the View:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469997
Guys Ive got a lg e980 on att running kitkat and rooted. Use sqlite to enable tethering.
But the tethering is actually to a Nexus 7 used as a GPS in my car.
Will they be able to see it being used for position location...and worst case a pandora on longer drives?
If they can see it, is their any way to hide this usage. Id rather not pay 30 bucks a month for a tablet plan just so I dont have to bluetooth my phones audio in for gps.
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Guys Ive got a lg e980 on att running kitkat and rooted. Use sqlite to enable tethering.
But the tethering is actually to a Nexus 7 used as a GPS in my car.
Will they be able to see it being used for position location...and worst case a pandora on longer drives?
If they can see it, is their any way to hide this usage. Id rather not pay 30 bucks a month for a tablet plan just so I dont have to bluetooth my phones audio in for gps.
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To be honest, it should be fine. Any thing you do, even if they are watching you like a hawk, for all they know could just be coming from your phone. I used to tether my old Verizon phone to my Nexus 7 and use it for that sort of stuff all the time, without actually paying for VZ's tethering provisioning and they never noticed. I would be cautious, but it should be just fine.
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To be honest, it should be fine. Any thing you do, even if they are watching you like a hawk, for all they know could just be coming from your phone. I used to tether my old Verizon phone to my Nexus 7 and use it for that sort of stuff all the time, without actually paying for VZ's tethering provisioning and they never noticed. I would be cautious, but it should be just fine.
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If Im not mistaken verizon isnt quite as on top of the tethering as ATT.
Just worried about the packets bouncing from tablet to phone...both are android running kitkat...but I am still curious if there is a way to better hide the minimal tethering.
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If Im not mistaken verizon isnt quite as on top of the tethering as ATT.
Just worried about the packets bouncing from tablet to phone...both are android running kitkat...but I am still curious if there is a way to better hide the minimal tethering.
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Are you using WiFi tethering or Bluetooth tethering? I know that Bluetooth is much more difficult for carriers to track so you might consider that if you haven't already. If you are really worried, maybe give FoxFi a shot.
I personally switched to T-Mobile because they never charge any overages, are much cheaper than anyone else, and features like tethering, visual voicemail, and all the other frilly little addons are included in the plan for free.
SuzukiGoat said:
Guys Ive got a lg e980 on att running kitkat and rooted. Use sqlite to enable tethering.
But the tethering is actually to a Nexus 7 used as a GPS in my car.
Will they be able to see it being used for position location...and worst case a pandora on longer drives?
If they can see it, is their any way to hide this usage. Id rather not pay 30 bucks a month for a tablet plan just so I dont have to bluetooth my phones audio in for gps.
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I can't speak for AT&T, but on T-Mobile, using PdaNet+, I can tether my phone to my LG G Pad 8.3 with Bluetooth and it doesn't drain my hotspot data (it does use my regular data, but I have unlimited high-speed). I'm pretty sure doing the same with wi-fi hotspot does the same with my tablet too, as just last night I used my phone's wi-fi hotspot to update Asphalt 8 (1.3+GB) on my tablet, and my usage barely changed (from 290MB to 307MB), while a co-worker was using my hotspot as well.
FWIW, I hacked my Motorola Droid Razr Maxx on Verizon to bypass their tether provisioning for over a year, and they never said or did anything about it. The thing is, legally speaking, data you lease from them is your data. They can't tell you how you can or can't use it (unless it violates other laws, like kiddy porn or filesharing). Tethering is not part of this law; it's a service they offer, and naturally, they want to charge you every penny they can for it, and will do everything they can to do so. But it's still your data, as leased to you in your agreement, and yours to do with how you wish.
That said, it's still data, and will count against your plan's allotment.
As far as GPS goes, you can download maps through Google Maps and keep them for 30 days (before having to do it again). You're limited to a certain amount of area, but you can download multiple areas. Doing this means you don't need a data connection, since GPS is independent of mobile data. Perhaps not that useful for traveling across the great plains or the Rockies or across the desert to So Cal, but you can save the better part of a major metropolitan area like Chicago and its suburbs for miles around.
Honestly, they don't care enough to dig into your usage that much. I used to sell ATT. If they'd care about anything it'd be you being rooted. And all they could do if they could prove that would be void your warranty. Go nuts on it. Nothing they can do. Like someone else said it just looks like you're doing all of it from your phone, not the tablet.