[Q] Gain root access while already on 5.0.1 - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

I had root access on 4.4.2, downloaded OTA1 update, failed to install OTA2. I used Samsung Kies to install OTA2 and now I am on 5.0.1 without root access.
My phone isn't fully functional at the moment, with some apps not working and some completely broken due to no root access.
Is there a way for me to gain root access while already on 5.0.1? I see these ways to have rooted 5.0.1 but that is when you phone is rooted 4.4.2.
Thanks.

Nope. No way to root 5.0.1 yet.
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Bleh, that's what I thought when I was searching but I was hoping I had been missing something. My phone is pretty messed up at the moment too. Numbers on my lockscreen randomly turn to blocks.

urawizardhary said:
Bleh, that's what I thought when I was searching but I was hoping I had been missing something. My phone is pretty messed up at the moment too. Numbers on my lockscreen randomly turn to blocks.
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Out of curiosity, since I'm in the same position... Can you flash Kit Kat firmware onto it with ODIN? Are you able to go back to a rooted 4.4.2?

No, no downgrading. A qFuse was blown, no way to go back. You can flash the stock 5.0.1 firmware with Odin to fix that though(the problems with the OP's phone)

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Update stock rom while rooted

Hey everyone, I have a question...so I rooted my phone a couple of months ago and never got around to installing a custom rom. So as of right now I have the stock 4.3 (sch-i545), I never done anything besides rooting it. I just received an update for the stock rom and my question is, could I just update it while my phone is rooted without voiding the warranty and or bricking it? Much obliged for your time
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726868
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If all you did was rooted, and didn't delete any apps, make any changes to files, etc., it should work. It won't brick your phone if it doesn't work, it will just reboot and tell you it failed.
Sir_Eagle said:
If all you did was rooted, and didn't delete any apps, make any changes to files, etc., it should work. It won't brick your phone if it doesn't work, it will just reboot and tell you it failed.
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My understanding was that you need to be absolute stock to take an OTA. Have you seen anyone say they've been able to OTA a rooted phone?
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joshm.1219 said:
My understanding was that you need to be absolute stock to take an OTA. Have you seen anyone say they've been able to OTA a rooted phone?
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Can't say for sure if I have. Never heard of anyone that rooted and didn't make any kind of change either.
Sir_Eagle said:
Can't say for sure if I have. Never heard of anyone that rooted and didn't make any kind of change either.
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If all you did was root the phone, you will be able to OTA... BUT,
This OTA update will install NC5 on your phone and add the lovely Knox warranty void as well.
As far as I can tell, at this time, therd is NO way of rooting the Verizon S4 after updating to NC5.
If you look under "About Phone, Status.. Device Status, if it says OFFICIAL, you'll be good to go for OTA.
But remember... no Rooting under the new OTA with verizon, until one of the XDA Genius finds a solution for us zombies.
Pow35 said:
If all you did was root the phone, you will be able to OTA... BUT,
This OTA update will install NC5 on your phone and add the lovely Knox warranty void as well.
As far as I can tell, at this time, therd is NO way of rooting the Verizon S4 after updating to NC5.
If you look under "About Phone, Status.. Device Status, if it says OFFICIAL, you'll be good to go for OTA.
But remember... no Rooting under the new OTA with verizon, until one of the XDA Genius finds a solution for us zombies.
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I tried to OTA on rooted phone and it failed.
Don't like to do a factory reset, so I basically only want an OTA update. Cant stick anymore as my phone is driving me nuts, my phone screen keeps on going black and locking every few seconds when I wake the screen from sleep
ch.ch1 said:
I tried to OTA on rooted phone and it failed.
Don't like to do a factory reset, so I basically only want an OTA update. Cant stick anymore as my phone is driving me nuts, my phone screen keeps on going black and locking every few seconds when I wake the screen from sleep
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Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209
You can go to MK2; the latest version of Jellybean.
You can then either root and stay there.
You can root, install safestrap then go to a rooted KitKat (NC5) and keep the MK2 bootloader.
You can ignore all rooting and mods and take the OTA and go to a crippled NC5 with no root.
Hope that helps.
yupp
joshm.1219 said:
My understanding was that you need to be absolute stock to take an OTA. Have you seen anyone say they've been able to OTA a rooted phone?
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Yeah I used the OTA update and my phone was rooted. Also every time I turn(ed) on my phone it says samsung custom with an unlock this is on 4.4.2 and on 4.3 before. I checked to see if I have root, but I don't. Also superuser is still installed, says I don't have root (obviously). Except the weird thing is, that it says samsung custom still, and on the isis mobile wallet it says I cant use it because my device is rooted. I also used root checker to see if I was to double check and it says I'm not. I'm really confused... but hey at least the OTA update worked, i just cant wait to get root again because I will miss all my rooted apps. I didn't check to make sure they developed root either. which sucks but whatever.

Can't get Lollipop any way..was rooted at one point.

Okay here's my tale of woe..
I rooted my phone last year - but at some point - took an update and lost root.
Though the phone still displays the "custom" boot screen with the padlock.
I tried to take the Lollipop update through the OTA but it fails and I get the "laying on his back" failed Android dude...
The phone DID take the first update.
I have: wiped cache in recovery, wiped data and cache in download manager.
No luck.
I have tried loading the NC5 kernel back on (via Odin 3.09) - but that makes the phone 100% unstable...reboots every 3 minutes..no access to apps - they lock and reboot etc etc.
Loaded the NG6 kernel back on to re-stabilize the phone and tried to Kies the update.
Kies downloads the update then when it tries to apply it the phone boots into "download mode"
I have been advised to:
I had the same custom boot screen--even after unrooting. Tried using Triangle Away to reset the binary count, but the count was already at 0. So ultimately I had to re-flash the NC5 kernel via Odin to get things truly back to being recognized as stock.
Then updates started rolling in for NG6, then NK1. Finally the two-part update for Lollipop.
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and - of course that doesn't work. NC5 won't let the phone run long enough to take an update..
It has been said:
Try to flash the OC1 with the pit file
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But I haven't found the stock OC1 file anywhere to even try and begin to get it loaded.
Honestly - I'm not even really concerned about rooting right now. I'd really just like to get the phone back to a stock configuration and kernel and lollipop.
Developer mode is enabled. Obviously both Kies and Odin talk to the phone with no problems.
Any ideas ?
Thanks, Dan
Get your phone to 4.4.2, use the verizon software upgrade assistant program preloaded on your phone to update. I had this exact same problem and that's how I got to 5.0.1
You WILL lose root. And there's no method to root 5.0 right now, and people have been saying that there might never be. You also won't be able to downgrade, or at least there's no method to do so at the moment, so you will be stuck with lollipop for a while, maybe forever.
Yes.
Maybe I need to clarify.
I do not care about root at this point. I just want to get the phone back to a stock state and take the Lollipop update.
I'm curious as to why I will never be able to update beyond Lollipop.
Doesn't matter I guess - the phone will have been replaced by then - but still...why ?
Thanks, Dan
CyrusKhane said:
Get your phone to 4.4.2, use the verizon software upgrade assistant program preloaded on your phone to update. I had this exact same problem and that's how I got to 5.0.1
You WILL lose root. And there's no method to root 5.0 right now, and people have been saying that there might never be. You also won't be able to downgrade, or at least there's no method to do so at the moment, so you will be stuck with lollipop for a while, maybe forever.
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I've downloaded (3) different 4.4.2 Firmwares.
FNK1
FNC5 (No Wipe)
FNG6 (No Wipe)
Any opinion on which one is best ?
Did you download these manually or OTA? When I re-flashed the NC5 kernel, I received NG6 then NK1 then the 2-part Lollipop updates all OTA back-to-back.
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I would use the ng6. That's what I was running.
Rip Syntaxx said:
Did you download these manually or OTA? When I re-flashed the NC5 kernel, I received NG6 then NK1 then the 2-part Lollipop updates all OTA back-to-back.
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Manually - from these (XDA) forums.
danielzink said:
Manually - from these (XDA) forums.
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Hmm... I'm not sure if it makes a difference to download OTA instead of manually. I would think it's worth a shot flashing NC5 (if it will let you downgrade) and using the software update feature to update OTA the rest of the way.
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Got it finally !
started out by flashing (FNG6 (No Wipe)) in Odin 3.09
That got me to regular boots with no "custom" screen showing the lock symbol.
Then I had to take OTA updates to FNK1 then the OTA preliminary Lollipop update then (OTA) finally Lollipop itself.
No root - but that's OK.
It took about an hour and a couple shutdowns to get things running smoothly but it's all good now.
Thanks everyone for their help.

[Q] Root for SM-G900T 5.1.1?

Is it possible for root on Samsung S5 T-mobile?
I am need also root
karneychen said:
Is it possible for root on Samsung S5 T-mobile?
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eli7897 said:
I am need also root
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Hurry up and wait
Any official word on if someone is actively working on trying to get root working?
.Root 5.1.1 T- mob S5???
[I would be pretty pleased if someone could help us out with thisQUOTE=karneychen;61618862]Is it possible for root on Samsung S5 T-mobile?[/QUOTE]
I'm going to give it another month and if no root method is out for 5.1.1, gonna have to revert to 5.0 since I can't get the debloater for OF6 to work. The forum here seems so inactive, makes me wonder if anyone is even working on a root method.
Is that even possible? How would you be able to downgrade without root? If there's a way, please let me know. 5.1.1 has completely trashed my phone. I wanna root so bad so I can flash a new rom. Make my phone usable again. I don't wanna update to get a new phone. Root would be a life saver or at least down grading to root. Please help.
Truth6199 said:
Is that even possible? How would you be able to downgrade without root? If there's a way, please let me know. 5.1.1 has completely trashed my phone. I wanna root so bad so I can flash a new rom. Make my phone usable again. I don't wanna update to get a new phone. Root would be a life saver or at least down grading to root. Please help.
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When I got my phone it was running 4.4.2 and installed TWRP... used that to do an advanced wipe of my phone to include Dalvik, System, Data, Internal Storage and Cache and installed a downloaded copy of 5.1.1 from Sammobile. Not sure why I couldn't do the same thing and then install 5.0.
MortTheBeast said:
When I got my phone it was running 4.4.2 and installed TWRP... used that to do an advanced wipe of my phone to include Dalvik, System, Data, Internal Storage and Cache and installed a downloaded copy of 5.1.1 from Sammobile. Not sure why I couldn't do the same thing and then install 5.0.
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I never rooted my device before. Just got the OTA from T-Mobile. Is it still possible to use odin for flashing a recovery and downgrading?
Truth6199 said:
I never rooted my device before. Just got the OTA from T-Mobile. Is it still possible to use odin for flashing a recovery and downgrading?
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I don't want to say for sure it's 100% possible as I am no expert and haven't done my research. I know some OS's don't allow for downgrading and not sure if this is one of them. I just made an assumption that if advance wipe takes out the entire OS... then why wouldn't it be possible. I could be wrong though and haven't tried yet... wanted to wait a month and see if there is any progress on root for 5.1.1. If you find out anything let me know if you don't mind.. or if someone else with more experience in these matters could comment, that would be helpful.
You can downgrade via odin without tripping knox. I downgraded my wifes phone from 5.0 to 4.4.2 a while back.
esjames said:
You can downgrade via odin without tripping knox. I downgraded my wifes phone from 5.0 to 4.4.2 a while back.
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Yea but that was 5.0 not 5.1.1 which might be different. I read an article a little while ago that mentioned that you might soft brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade 5.1.1... something to do with the bootloader. Waiting on an expert to chime in...
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Yea but that was 5.0 not 5.1.1 which might be different. I read an article a little while ago that mentioned that you might soft brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade 5.1.1... something to do with the bootloader. Waiting on an expert to chime in...
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I was on 5.1.1, didnt like it and did odin back to 5.0 with no issues.
Same problem with OTA 5.1.1
Same problem with Samsung s5 T Mobile after the upgrade. SOOOOOO Lagggggy. T Mobile support told me to remove SD card, that seems to work, but I need the sd card... so I format it and put it back again and guess what.... it is lagy again. I also reset twice the phone and the same thing... So I think we are stuck, I can not root it, can not downgrade, can not use the phone!
Is there even a way to revert to 5.0
Ill say maybe a month since 5.1.1 was realesed. Testing some rooting mmethods myself so ill get back to yu all if I found a way
Should have waited for a dev to get hold of it, never do a ota. I have never took an ota yet, not planning to either.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61852944
have also twp recovery? for 5.1.1
I did brick my SM-G900T trying to go from 5.1.1 to 5.0. I read that Samsung added "protection" to 5.1.1 to prevent reverting & possibly rooting (not sure about that). I took the phone to a repair shop - it now has 5.0 and the OTA 5.1.1 is trying to download again.... I'm going to attempt to root 5.0. As I am new to rooting, really don't know what I'm doing & and am relying on internet posts, wish me luck!

Z3v 5.1.1 Full Root

I was able to accomplish a Full Root on the latest OTA update on the phone.
Previously I was running Stock 4.4.4 KitKat with SuperSu and had issues with the OTA, since I had removed Apps.
I installed the Stock 4.4.4 ftf to the phone using the flashtool.
Then was successful in receiving the Prompt to update.
After Update, I installed. "Kingroot" for android. just google it. NOT KINGOROOT or any other.
After running kingroot, King User was installed.
In my experience, no other root method will achieve full root. I was not happy with using Kinguser, since i was a Supersu fan. But anytime I successfully removed kinguser, to swap for Supersu, I had lost partial root access, and could not uninstall apps. I could only Freeze.
I also tried Superuser, but only kinguser allowed me to fully uninstall bloatware, and other apps from the phone.
Just thought I would share.
Thanks, Iambedook. Every experience helps. Kingoroot got me into trouble once before in the past.
Can you flash back to 4.4 from 5.1.1?
iambedook said:
I was able to accomplish a Full Root on the latest OTA update on the phone.
Previously I was running Stock 4.4.4 KitKat with SuperSu and had issues with the OTA, since I had removed Apps.
I installed the Stock 4.4.4 ftf to the phone using the flashtool.
Then was successful in receiving the Prompt to update.
After Update, I installed. "Kingroot" for android. just google it. NOT KINGOROOT or any other.
After running kingroot, King User was installed.
In my experience, no other root method will achieve full root. I was not happy with using Kinguser, since i was a Supersu fan. But anytime I successfully removed kinguser, to swap for Supersu, I had lost partial root access, and could not uninstall apps. I could only Freeze.
I also tried Superuser, but only kinguser allowed me to fully uninstall bloatware, and other apps from the phone.
Just thought I would share.
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I'd love to try this, but I'm kinda unwilling/aprehensious to take the chance with rooting apps. Can you confirm that you can use flashtool to revert back to 4.4? I just know Verizon would block such a thing in an update, they can be jerks. (like the moto razr maxx hd) Any insight is appreciated.
Astoras said:
I'd love to try this, but I'm kinda unwilling/aprehensious to take the chance with rooting apps. Can you confirm that you can use flashtool to revert back to 4.4? I just know Verizon would block such a thing in an update, they can be jerks. (like the moto razr maxx hd) Any insight is appreciated.
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Yes, you can revert back to 4.4.4 through Flashtool. Doing so though, you will not have Advanced Calling or the refreshing Lollipop UI. Also, unless you do something about it, you will be promptly reminded all the time to update to 5.1.1.
GigaSPX said:
Yes, you can revert back to 4.4.4 through Flashtool. Doing so though, you will not have Advanced Calling or the refreshing Lollipop UI. Also, unless you do something about it, you will be promptly reminded all the time to update to 5.1.1.
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Giga,
If I use this method to root 5.1.1., can I install dual recovery and Camera 2 and the FM tuner app? I'd also like the updated flashlight you put together but don't see that as a separate install. Should I wait or go ahead with this method for root?
Thanks, Pat
pvcdroid said:
Giga,
If I use this method to root 5.1.1., can I install dual recovery and Camera 2 and the FM tuner app? I'd also like the updated flashlight you put together but don't see that as a separate install. Should I wait or go ahead with this method for root?
Thanks, Pat
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You may root, but I would advise against anything else. the Z5 Camera is most likely not compatible for our phones on 5.1.1, and neither is the FM Tuner. It's a whole lot I can't touch base on yet.
Astoras said:
I'd love to try this, but I'm kinda unwilling/aprehensious to take the chance with rooting apps. Can you confirm that you can use flashtool to revert back to 4.4? I just know Verizon would block such a thing in an update, they can be jerks. (like the moto razr maxx hd) Any insight is appreciated.
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I was able to flash back to 4.4.4 after i messed things up, but after going back to 4.4.4 i am struggling to get back to 5.1.1. The updates are not appearing, stating I am at the latest version.
I would also like a confirm if this. Because I'm sitting around and waiting for a rooted 5.1.1 copy for the phone. Im on 5.0.2 right now and all is working good but still waiting. Thanks all.
I'm going to see if I can root after upgrading to 5.1.1, but I have the stock firmware just incase.
Just uploaded a rooted twrp backup with real superuser ++++much more
Tigerhoods said:
Just uploaded a rooted twrp backup with real superuser ++++much more
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Wow!!! That sounds great, thanks Tiger
thals1992 said:
I'm going to see if I can root after upgrading to 5.1.1, but I have the stock firmware just incase.
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Just an FYI, after I needed to revert to 4.4.4. I was struggling to receive updates to get back to 5.1.1. I had to use the Flashtool, 3-5 times to get the correct update prompts to appear. If anyone else had similar issues when reverting back, let me know, but re flashing repeatedly worked for me.
Tigerhoods said:
Just uploaded a rooted twrp backup with real superuser ++++much more
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Wow,
Download url please
immtu said:
Wow,
Download url please
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Just scroll down to the z3v dev section.
I was actually able to flash the stock ftf coming 5.0.2. I had to flash it with default options the first time with it failing. I then found that I have to basically flash noting to clear the error on the phone by checking everything in exclude and the other exclude box where it shows its not displaying any files in the middle of the window.
Once that went through, I was able to upgrade from stock to .44 and then the the two updates for 5.1.1. After all that I reset to factory again to test on rooting the phone. I was too, able to obtain root with King Root. I was able to install zxrecovery and xposed with no problems. I'm actually used to King Root as I had to use it on the Verizon branded 7" tablet that didn't have any other possible methods previously. I also found that Busybox was slightly out of date (difference of 2.0) and installed to /sbin which wasn't too big of an issue.
Beyond that my phone seems to get pretty warm and typically complains about not charging even on a 2 Amp charger.
Can you tell me how you avhieved root because i want it but i can't revert to kitkat for some reason (flashtool won't recognise the update file) and I'm on lollipop. I've tried kingroot(app version) and it didn't work,tried reverting didn't work and tried all the framaroot,towelroot and such apps but none worked. I want working root,xposed and twrp. I can't find any way to do it please help.
Zandermc3 said:
Can you tell me how you avhieved root because i want it but i can't revert to kitkat for some reason (flashtool won't recognise the update file) and I'm on lollipop. I've tried kingroot(app version) and it didn't work,tried reverting didn't work and tried all the framaroot,towelroot and such apps but none worked. I want working root,xposed and twrp. I can't find any way to do it please help.
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Try King root again. I used their apk on the phone. It rebooted once at 30%, but when I got back in the app after the reboot, it successfully rooted the device.
thals1992 said:
Try King root again. I used their apk on the phone. It rebooted once at 30%, but when I got back in the app after the reboot, it successfully rooted the device.
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Well when i tried i did it 3 times and it failed,never rebooted. I have z3 international or 6603 i think
Zandermc3 said:
Well when i tried i did it 3 times and it failed,never rebooted. I have z3 international or 6603 i think
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Thats why then. This is only for the Z3v the Verizon variant.
Hi there,
New to the forum. After several hours of reading and searching, I became bewildered enough to decide to register and post .
This thread looked promising. I'm currently on rooted 4.4.4 with this phone. I also have a custom recovery installed. Im trying to get to 5.1.1. As of right now, I assume my only option is to wait for a 5.1.1 ftf so that I can update, because the OTA updates won't work (phone reboots into the custom recovery and the update is interrupted).
Is there an easier way to get the OTA? Or am I stuck waiting for an ftf?
To be clear, my goal is to be on 5.1.1 with root. But at this point I don't think I can get to 5.1.1 at all.

Advice needed on software update (OC1 to OF1)

Hi there. I just broke my s6 and so had to go back to my old s4, heh. I currently have a rooted OC1, and I was looking at the latest info on available root methods and see that the OF1 can be rooted using kingroot. My phone shows an OTA available but repeatedly fails when trying to update.
My question is, should I try to figure out what is causing the failure, update the "right" way, and then root with kingroot? Or should I just figure out another way to get the update, like I think the old way was to downgrade to OC1, root, then odin the OF1 update. Should I just do that?
This happens when you try to ota on a rom which has root or has been modified. Just dont update it doesnt add any features

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